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There I was, basking in the glory of being right.

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I spotted the love story before it even started.

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Just a little nudge from me and boom! Claire

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was neck deep in the rom -com formula. Did I

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gloat? Obviously. Am I insufferable? Deeply.

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Do I regret it? Not for a second. But don't go

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rolling the credits yet. We're just getting to

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the juicy part. The slow burns. The bad decisions.

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And of course, the voodoo love curses. Oh, spoilers.

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Forget I said that. Stay tuned. Hey, Claire.

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What are you doing here? Hey, Brian. Gosh, I

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don't know. I'm stir crazy. Last night, I wrapped

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up my last freelance gig and I went to a women

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in advertising networking event. Now I'm over

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here to harass you and Shannon and find out what

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the heck freelancers do with themselves when

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they don't have the next project lined up. Beats

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me. You're looking at my first day of unemployment

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in my entire adulthood. Hold up now. Are we calling

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you unemployed? Well, I quit my job, right? Unemployed.

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And you worked for me now, sir. For the family

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business. And I'm sleeping with my boss already.

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Don't call HR on me. God, quit it with the dad

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jokes. You're not nervous losing that steady

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paycheck? I sure am. Yeah, but we've got to try

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it, right? Shannon is such a badass at what she

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does, and she's been doing it all on her own.

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If the genders were reversed, I don't think people

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would bat an eye at my wife leaving her job to

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support my work. Bingo. Spoken like a true feminist

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ally. I knew I'd married the right man. I really

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am proud of you both. I don't know if I have

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the guts to keep at this freelancer thing. Could

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it be, and I'm just spitballing here, could it

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be that your identity is too caught up in your

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career and winning awards? You're meddling in

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my love life and now you're my career coach too?

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Here I was paying you a compliment. I'm your

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older sister. It's my job. You'd prefer me to

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be pretentious and judgy like mom? Um, no. I

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get it, Claire. Freelancing is a grind for sure.

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You'll definitely have some dry spells, especially

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in the beginning when you're getting yourself

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established. But you are a creative badass. I'm

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not worried about you. Have you ever considered

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going into sales? They also think it's cool to

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never stop working. Ew, Brian, sales pros are

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the worst. Here, Claire, make a list of things

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you can do when you don't have a paying gig.

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You know, update your website, check in with

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some industry friends to see what they're up

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to, research. Oh, better yet. Go experience real

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life. Nothing leads to better creativity than

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having new experiences and, you know, letting

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your mind wander. And if you want to get really

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crazy, try stand -up comedy. I don't think I'm

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emotionally damaged enough for that. Speaking

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of new experiences, we're all going to see Tony's

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show on Saturday. That'll be cool. Oh, can you

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get us a babysitter? Is this an assignment as

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your employee or as your husband? As the father

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of children who aren't old enough to stay home

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alone at night? Got it, boss. Guess I'm on the

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clock. Okay, guys, I'm heading out. Gotta go

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pound the pavement or whatever. Thank you, thank

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you. Let's hear it one more time for our buddy

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Tony. Tony, my man. That was awesome. What a

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fun show. Hey, guys. Thanks for coming out. It

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really was great. Hi. I'm glad you could come.

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I'll get us all a pitcher. How about that? Just

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a soda for me, thanks. Oh, right. You don't drink?

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Generally, no. Is that a problem? No, not at

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all. I just never picked up on that. Don't let

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me stop you, though. I don't mind being around

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people drinking. It's just not my thing anymore.

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Claire, come with me to the ladies. Okay, I'll

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be right back, Tony. Oh, that was too good. What?

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It was really great. You're like a starstruck

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schoolgirl the whole time they were on stage.

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I don't know what you're talking about. Huck,

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line, and sinker. The bassist will get you every

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time. Please, you know that bassist at Shaky

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Knees last year came up to me. Tonight's show

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was great. I was enjoying the band. Yeah, you're

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enjoying it all right. Ooh, Tony, sign my t -shirt.

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Oh my gosh, you are so annoying. Just let me

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see what happens, okay? Your meddling is making

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me so self -conscious. I don't even know how

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I feel because I don't want to give you the satisfaction.

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Oh. Feelings, you say? Does my little sister

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have feelings for a man? You know what? I think

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I prefer you locked in a padded booth, except

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I think you actually like it in there. There's

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no winning with you. You know what? Let's just

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go. Let's go. Ladies, here are your drinks. Donnie

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was just telling me about an art opening he's

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a part of next week. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it's a group

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of artists that I know. Mostly skateboard deck

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art, oddities, some kind of macabre pop art.

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It'll be an interesting mix. A few of my pieces

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will be there, too. He's multifaceted. I bet

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Claire wants to see your pieces, Shannon. Would

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y 'all like to come? Yes, we'd love to. Right,

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Claire? You're not busy. He didn't even say what

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day it was. Oh, hey, stop elbowing me. We'll

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be there. Oh, shoot. It's the babysitter. Oh,

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did we miss a text? Yeah, it's late. We should

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go so I can give her a ride home. Dang, we were

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having so much fun. Well, thanks you guys for

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coming out. I'd love to see you guys play again

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sometime. Claire, don't feel like you have to

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leave with us. You're young, footloose, fancy

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free. Oh, and a freelancer, so no plans tomorrow.

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Yeah, Claire, I can give you a ride home. Yes,

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Tony can give her a ride home. Let's go, babe.

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Okay, this was great. Have a good rest of your

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night. Okay, bye. See you later. So. So, I guess

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I have to drink the rest of this pitcher by myself.

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Well, you don't have to. Yeah. I do appreciate

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you guys coming to see me play. You know, it's

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always nice to see friends in the crowd. Yeah,

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I bet. Is something wrong? You seem distracted.

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I'm sorry. It's my sister. She just keeps making

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things awkward and trying so hard to force something

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to happen between us. You know, it's embarrassing.

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I think it's sweet. She cares about you. I know,

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but I can handle my own life, thank you. And

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it just makes me feel like she thinks that I

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can't. Okay, well, what are you up to on Saturday?

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Do you know how to kayak? I've kayaked on a lake

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before. Do you mean like river rapids or just

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like puttering around? Puttering, floating around,

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basically. I bought a kayak for fishing, but

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turns out I don't really like fishing. Oh, thank

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God. The only thing worse than dudes on dating

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apps holding up a fish in their profile pic is

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the river rapids dudes. Ugh, no. Do you know

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how much flack I'd get from Dominique if she

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caught me posting any of that? So, are you on

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the dating apps? Not at the moment. I was trying

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to ask a girl out on a kayaking date in real

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life before I was so rudely interrupted. Oh,

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please, continue. As I was saying, would you

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like to go kayaking with me? I can borrow another

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one from a friend. Hmm, yeah, I could be into

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that. Okay, so we'll go kayaking. Shannon doesn't

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have to know about it. We'll explore the lake,

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I'll pack a snackle box, we'll see some turtles.

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I do like turtles. Wait, what's a snackle box?

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It's a tackle box full of snacks. Ah, aptly named.

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Uh -huh. So it's a date then, and I'm sworn to

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secrecy. Great. Also, you did look great up on

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stage, like you were in your element. Aw, thanks.

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It did feel good. I love playing music, but life

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on the road, it's just, it's not for me anymore.

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Yeah, now it's all art and restaurant design

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and lawn care and treehouse building and... Parenting

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and kayaking and running and, I don't know, yoga?

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You seem like you do yoga. I've been known to

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do some yoga. See? Multifaceted. What is up with

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your family and that word? Hey Joel, what's up?

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Claire, I'm dying. Are we figuratively dying

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or actually dying? I have the flu. Oh, babe,

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that sucks. Do you need me to bring you some

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soup? No, I need you to fill in for me at a shoot.

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What? A shoot. Today. Today? Oh my gosh, it's

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Saturday. And we're supposed to be shooting that

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social campaign for the chip brand today, and

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they are kicking me off set because I have a

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fever. You don't have anyone else at the agency

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who can help? Come on. Claire, I need you. You

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know the brand, you know the clients, you know

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the work. Can you please come? You're not doing

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anything today anyway. Excuse me, I actually

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do have plans. Not work, but outdoorsy social

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plans. Wait, are you seeing the sexy single daddy

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today? I love the hot single daddy trope for

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you. My personal life is not a trope, Joel. And

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if anything, he's the sexy lumberjack trope.

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Gasp. I die. Sexy single daddy slash lumberjack?

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Get it, girl. Oh, does he also have slutty little

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glasses like Jude Law on the holiday? Slutty

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little... Okay, no. He doesn't even wear glasses.

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Okay, but can you reschedule with him? I'll owe

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you one. I'll get them to pay you double your

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day rate. Oh. Okay, okay, yeah. I'll do it. Text

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me the location and the scripts. I'll be there

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soon. Okay. Feel better, Joel. Love you, Claire

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Bear. Yeah, yeah. Call me when you're alive again.

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Shit. Hey, Tony. Hey, Claire. You almost ready?

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I'm all packed up and about to strap the kayaks

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to the truck. Oh, about that. I'm so sorry, but

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can we reschedule? Oh. Yeah, sorry. I just got

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a call to work on a project. My old co -worker,

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Joel, he's sick and he needs me to cover for

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him at a shoot. Oh, okay. Bummer. And I could

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really use the work right now. I'm so sorry.

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No, no, that's okay. We'll do it another day.

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Am I still going to see you at the art opening

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later tonight? Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, I think

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I'll be wrapped up by then and I'll meet you

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there. Okay, sounds good. And again, I'm really

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sorry. It's fine. Go make those coins, girl.

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Brian, where is she? There's only an hour left

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in the art show. I don't know where she is. Did

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you text her? Yeah, like eight times in the last

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two hours. She should be here by now. Hon, it's

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fine. Let's just enjoy our night. But look at

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Tony. He's over there working the crowd. Claire

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should be here to meet his art friends. Babe,

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it's fine. You know she's going to start backing

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off if you keep making such a big deal about

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her and Tony. You gotta be more subtle. Hmm,

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subtlety is not my strong suit. Aw, but you have

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so many other good qualities. So multifaceted.

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We almost have one minor flaw. Hey, guys. Tony!

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Great opening, man. I love the one with the Dia

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de los Muertos possum skull. Yeah, that's my

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friend Heather's work. It's fun. Nice. Got any

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bites on your pieces? Yeah, I just sold two,

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actually. Sweet. Congrats. Um, have you heard

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from Claire? I thought I might see her here.

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No, I haven't heard from her. Oh. Okay. Oh, here

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comes my old buddy. Ah, Tony! Yes! Okay, can

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I grab you? Just for a second, sorry. Um, I want

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to introduce you to my friend Doug. Yeah, yeah.

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Uh, excuse me, guys. Claire is doing it again,

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Brian. Doing what? Putting work over everything.

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She gets sucked into work and completely ignores

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everything around her and keeps her phone on

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silent. That's why she's still single. Is that

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so wrong now and then? She needs the work. Don't

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let her take this away from us. This thing I'm

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manifesting with Claire and Tony is the best

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thing that's ever happened to me. Best thing

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that's ever happened to you? Not the kids? Not

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your husband? Sure, sure, you're great too. Oh.

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Not meeting Jake Fisher? Okay, that. That was

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the best thing that's ever happened to me. There's

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my girl. Come on, let's go see if we can buy

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a possum skull. Hello? Tony, I'm really, really,

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really, really, really sorry. Oh, hey. I know,

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I explained everything last night, but since

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you're not responding to my texts, I feel like...

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What, you texted? Yeah, I'm trying not to stalk

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you, but I was hoping we could still reschedule

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our kayaking day. Oh, I just didn't see the text

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because I'm driving. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've got

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to do an installation in Chattanooga. The pieces

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that didn't sell last night are going up in a

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gallery. Oh, did a lot of the pieces sell? Yeah,

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most of them. It was a good time. Should have

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been there. Yeah, yeah, I know. I feel terrible

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that I missed it. That's okay. I'll let you make

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it up to me. How's that? You can keep me company

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on the phone while I'm driving. Oh, okay. Well,

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yeah, I can do that. Although I've never been

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much of a phone person. Too many awkward silences.

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What awkward silences? I don't know. The inevitable

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ones? I mean, you just ask a question to keep

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the conversation going. Right. Okay, so what

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were you doing before I called? Actually, I was

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listening to Shannon's audiobook. Midnight darkness.

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You were not. I was. I had no idea about the

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complexities of werepanther politics and lovemaking.

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But boy, do I ever know about it now. I could

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devour you, but I'd rather savor you. You know,

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the infamous TikTok line? That's the one. But

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that Jake Fisher guy, he'll be perfect in that

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role. It's a very cinematic story. I'm totally

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going to go see it when it comes out. You know,

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I can't believe Shannon is turning you into a

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romantic fan too. Hey, I get it. It's a guilty

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pleasure, and it's part of the whole cultural

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ethos. I like to keep up with what people are

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into. You should get on BookTok. Uh, BookTok?

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The hell is BookTok? It's kind of a TikTok, book,

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nerd, subculture thing. Okay, I haven't seen

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it, but it's probably going to show up in my

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feed now. Probably. So, um... Um... Maybe I put

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too much pressure on you about the awkward silence

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thing. I think you're overthinking it now. Nope,

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nope, nope, nope. I have another question queued

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right up. Oh, it's an interview now. Okay. Yes,

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so tell me about your family. Are your parents

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around? Are you close to them? Do you have any

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siblings? Okay, digging deep. Let's see. Yeah,

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I'm pretty close to my parents. They live in

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Florida on a boat. Yes, I have a brother. Also

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in Florida. He's a biochemist. Okay. Your parents

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live on a boat? Like a rich person's yacht? Or

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like a houseboat? It's kind of like a retired

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hippie houseboat. They're boat people. They boat

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around the Florida Keys. It's a whole thing.

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Huh, okay. Well, that sounds like a nice way

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to spend retirement. Yeah, they seem to have

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a good time. Um, what about you? Any siblings

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other than Shannon? No, just the one. But she's

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plenty, as you know. And your parents? Well,

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I met your mom. She seemed really nice. Yeah,

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my parents, as you know, drive me crazy. But

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I guess, you know, their hearts are in the right

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place. They just want what's best for Shannon

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and me. And Brian. He's their favorite, obviously.

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Right, yeah, I get that. He's a prized son -in

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-law. Hey, so when do you want to go kayaking?

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I'm so glad you asked. Let me pull up my calendar

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on the computer. Calendar. I should really get

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one of those. You don't have a calendar? What?

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Well, I have a calendar. Dominique got me a derpy

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cat meme calendar. I got it tacked up in the

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workshop. But, you know, I really don't use it

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very much. I kind of just keep stuff in my head.

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Come on, dude. How do you keep track of your

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commitments and your appointments and all the

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various side hustles you have? Listen, I never

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said I had a good system. Okay, well. Huh, this

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is interesting. Uh, what? Oh, I just got an email

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back from this agency I was talking to last week.

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They want me to come up and interview for a contract

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position. Oh, nice. That's awesome. Congrats.

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An interview. It's in New York. Do I want to

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bother interviewing in New York? Um, yeah. Seems

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like you should at least take the interview.

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And you'd get to go to New York. I guess so.

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You're right. I'm not super interested in this

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agency, but a quickie little trip to New York

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would be fun. Hey, you're not going to believe

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this. I actually have a meeting with a restaurant

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client in Brooklyn next week. When's your trip?

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Next week. Wow. What are the chances? Okay, I'm

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just pulling in here. And my phone is blowing

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up with texts from Brian. My Brian? Our Brian?

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Shannon's Brian? One and the same. Looks like

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he may be freaking out about quitting his job.

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Okay. I'll let you go. Talk to you soon. Okay.

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Bye. Brian, buddy, you got this. This is an opportunity

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of a lifetime for you. You get to be a present

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dad and you get to support the family business.

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Oh, and no, I don't think you should grow a soul

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patch. Learn from my mistakes, man. Also, don't

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tell Shannon, but it looks like Claire and I

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will be in New York at the same time next week.

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Ha. Tony texted Brian, don't tell Shannon. You're

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right. My husband tells me every time he accidentally

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runs a yellow light. Of course he told me right

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away. And should I mention how excited I was

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that Tony and Brian were texting each other more

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often? Middle -aged men being emotionally supportive

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friends? So refreshing. But I'll save the bromance

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for season two. This story is about Tony and

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Claire. I was pretty pissed at Claire for missing

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the art show. And for being sneaky about the

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New York trip. But since I didn't know about

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that part, I could just give in and be super

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excited. Internally. New York. Just think of

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all the great romantic movies that take place

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in New York. A secret rendezvous. And their first

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trip together in the Big Apple. Chef's kiss.

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This story practically writes itself. The rom

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-com formula was created, directed, produced,

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and written by Susan Cooper, co -produced by

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Micah Caldwell, and co -written by Micah Caldwell,

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Rozzy Shadmery, and Scythe Sullyperm. Co -starring

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Susan Cooper as Shannon, Micah Caldwell as Claire,

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and Matt Fogarty as Tony. Joined in this episode

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by an ensemble cast that includes Francisco Almonara

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as Brian, Caden MacArthur as Joel, Sean Daly

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as lead singer, and Abby Getty as Tony's art

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friend. Series edited by Doug Lehman with post

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-production provided by Rosebank Picture and

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