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Welcome to this custom -tailored deep dive. If

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you're joining us today, well, our mission is

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to construct a, uh... a unique collective biography

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of sort of a completely infamous group. Yeah,

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easily one of the most damaging in modern history.

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Right, exactly. We are unpacking a massive stack

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of historical and encyclopedic sources to trace

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the life cycle of the Cambridge Five. Which is

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just a wild story from start to finish. It really

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is. And, you know, to start us off, I want to

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give you this piece of historical irony that

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is, I mean, it's almost too strange to believe.

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Oh, I know exactly whose part you're talking

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about. Right, so picture this. During the Second

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World War, You have this group of elite, highly

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educated British gentlemen, and they are secretly

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passing thousands upon thousands of classified

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documents to the Soviet Union. The absolute crown

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jewels of British intelligence. Exactly. The

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most sensitive stuff imaginable. But the ultimate

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twist here, the KGB actually suspected these

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men of being double agents. Which is just, it's

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hilarious in retrospect. It is. I mean, the Soviets

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just could not believe that anyone could access

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so many top secret British files that easily.

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Right. They literally tossed a huge portion of

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these stolen documents aside. Yeah, because their

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own institutional paranoia convinced them it

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had to be this elaborate trap. It's a staggering

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detail. I mean, it really tells you so much about

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both sides of the espionage war. You know, the

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Soviets were looking at this veritable gold mine

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of intelligence just handed over by these prominent

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members of the British upper class. And our immediate

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reaction is just total suspicion. Exactly. Total

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suspicion. Because no government machine, at

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least in their minds, could possibly be that

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porous, or just that poorly guarded. OK, let's

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unpack this. Because to really understand the

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story, you have to throw out pretty much everything

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you think you know about loyalty, espionage,

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and, well, how people actually navigate the corridors

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of power. Yeah, you really do. Today, we're tracing

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the spiring from their incredibly privileged

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academic origins, through their staggering infiltration

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of the British establishment, and finally, to

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their dramatic unmasking. The big five. Right.

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Anthony Blunt, Guy Burgess, Donald MacLean, Kim

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Philby, and John Carencross. Five men who effectively

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reshaped the Cold War from the inside out. And

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really, the only way to comprehend how they managed

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to execute this betrayal is, well, we have to

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examine the environment that forged them, right?

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The incubator, basically. Yeah, exactly. We have

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to look at the University of Cambridge in the

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early 1930s. Right, because context is everything

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here. It is. When you look at the broader landscape

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of that specific decade, I mean, the world was

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in a state of severe economic depression. The

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Great Depression was just debondating everything.

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Right. And capitalism. at least to many young

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intellectuals at the time, it appeared to be

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in its death throes. You know, millions were

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out of work globally. And at the exact same time

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on the European continent, fascism was aggressively

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rising in places like Germany and Italy. So that

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paints a picture of a massive ideological vacuum.

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I mean, if you're a young, highly educated person

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and you're watching the economic system completely

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collapse around you and authoritarianism is just

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marching across Europe. you are naturally going

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to look for a powerful alternative. And that

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alternative, you know, for many students within

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the walls of Cambridge, was the Marxist -Leninist

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ideology of Soviet communism. The ideological

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battle between capitalism and communism was fiercely

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debated. I mean, in the dining halls, the secret

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societies of the university. We were really hashing

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it out. They were. And from a purely historical

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standpoint, we have to recognize that to these

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specific young men, well, Communism didn't represent

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the totalitarian regime that we recognize it

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as today. Right. They didn't have the hindsight

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we have. Exactly. It appeared to them as the

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only viable mobilized counterweight to the spread

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of global fascism. They really believed they

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were taking a principled, necessary stand against

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this looming global catastrophe. Which brings

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a fascinating dynamic to their eventual recruitment

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because they didn't just, you know, independently

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decide one morning to start mailing state secrets

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to Moscow. No, not at all. There was a catalyst,

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someone who recognized that ideological fervor

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and basically weaponized it. And that was Anthony

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Blunt. Yeah, an older fellow at Trinity College.

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Right. He was slightly older. He was already

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established and he acted as the primary talent

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spotter for the NKVD, which is the Soviet intelligence

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apparatus that would eventually become the KGB

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exactly but I have to push back on the traditional

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Hollywood idea of like recruitment here. How

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do you mean? Well, when I read through our sources,

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Blunt's role feels so much more like a modern

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corporate headhunter. Oh, that's an interesting

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way to look at it. Right. He's like a scout for

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a massive tech firm just roaming an elite university

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looking for the brightest minds. Except instead

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of headhunting for a lucrative startup, Blunt

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was, you know, headhunting for treason. Right.

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Yeah. But how does someone in that position spot

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the potential for espionage among the British

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elite without exposing himself to the authorities.

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I mean, asking someone to betray their country

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isn't a casual conversation you just have over

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tea. No, it's not. But what's fascinating here

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is that the very structure of British society

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at the time provided his operational cover. Really?

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Like the class system? Exactly. The rigid class

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structures and the absolute unquestioning trust

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within the British upper classes created this

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perfect blind spot. Because they all went to

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the same schools and everything. Right. These

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were gentlemen who attended the right private

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schools. They belonged to exclusive groups like

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the Cambridge Apostles. They spoke with a cultivated

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accents of the ruling class. So they just assumed

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they were all on the same team. The British establishment

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simply could not conceive of reality where one

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of their own would genuinely work for a foreign

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communist power. It just didn't compute. Wow.

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So blunt could probe their political leanings,

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discuss Marxist theory out in the open and slowly

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groom them without raising any alarms to the

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university authorities or any passing observers.

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It just looked like young intellectuals having

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spirited harmless political debates. That is

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wild. And once blunt had them on the hook, the

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next logistical hurdle was getting them into

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positions where they could actually do some damage.

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Right. They needed jobs. And because of those

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exact same pedigrees you just mentioned, The

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doors to the British government essentially just

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swung wide open for them. Their ascent into the

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highest echelons of state power is just mind

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boggling when you look at the timeline. It really

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is. I mean, their career trajectories perfectly

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illustrate how deeply embedded they became. Walk

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us through it, because it's crazy. Sure. So Donald

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McLean went into the Foreign Office. which placed

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him right at the heart of diplomatic secrets.

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Guy Burgess navigated through the BBC, and eventually

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landed in the Foreign Office as well. Okay. Kim

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Philby ascended to become a senior officer in

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MI6. And then John Carencross, who was often

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referred to as the Fifth Man, he navigated through

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the Treasury, the Cabinet Office, and even Bletchley

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Park. Wait, Bletchley Park? As in the absolute

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epicenter of British code -breaking during the

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war? The very same. That is insane. And to make

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sure we're completely clear on the scope of this,

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we really need to distinguish between the intelligence

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agencies they infiltrated. Yeah, that's an important

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distinction. Right. Because Philby was in MI6,

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which is Britain's foreign intelligence service.

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His job was to run spies overseas and gather

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intelligence abroad. And the deep irony here

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is that Philby was eventually put in charge of

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the anti -Soviet section of MI6. You really can't

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make this up. No. The Soviets literally had their

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own man running the department designed to catch

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them. Right. And meanwhile... Anthony Blunt,

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the recruiter, he ended up in MI5. Which is the

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domestic security service. Yeah. MI5's mandate

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is to catch spies operating within the United

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Kingdom. So you have one member of the ring gathering

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foreign intelligence and another member sitting

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in the domestic agency whose sole job is to hunt

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down the very spy ring he helped create. It's

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the ultimate invisible shield. It really is.

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But my absolute favorite detail about Blunt.

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Well, if you can have a favorite detail about

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a colossal national security failure. is that

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he was also appointed as the surveyor of the

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King's pictures. Oh, yes. The art collection.

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He was literally curating the royal art collection,

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just walking the halls of Buckingham Palace while

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actively passing intelligence to Moscow. It perfectly

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illustrates the duality of their existence, doesn't

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it? They were completely insulated by the establishment

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they were dismantling, and the volume of intelligence

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they compromised is just staggering. Give us

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the numbers, because they are huge. Well, from

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1941 to 1945 alone, combined, Blunt, Burgess,

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McLean, and Cairncross handed over more than

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16 ,000 highly classified documents to their

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Soviet handlers. Over 16 ,000 documents in four

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years. Yeah. I mean, that requires an explanation

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of the mechanics. How on earth do you physically

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move that much paper? They couldn't just, you

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know, walk out of the foreign office with filing

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cabinets. Oh, no. Our sources indicate they were

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constantly stuffing briefcases with files at

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the end of the day, taking them to clandestine

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meetings or spending hours photographing documents

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with those tiny little minox cameras late at

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night. Right. And then returning the files before

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morning. Exactly. It was industrial scale theft

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happening right under the noses of British security.

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But here's where it gets really interesting for

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me. OK. What's that? Well, when you think of

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a spy operating at that volume, you think of

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a flawless. highly disciplined professional like

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James Bond or something. But the reality of this

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spy ring, especially guys like Burgess and McLean,

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was just completely chaotic. Oh, they were walking

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disasters in their personal lives. Completely.

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The KGB controllers actually frequently complained

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about their behavior. They viewed Burgess and

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McLean as hopeless, unreliable drunks. There

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is a specifically documented incident where Guy

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Burgess was leaving a pub, highly intoxicated,

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and he literally dropped top secret foreign office

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files onto the pavement. Out in public? He just

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dropped them in the street. And McLean was known

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to go on these wild drinking binges and openly

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blab about his secret Soviet affiliations to

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his brother and his friends. Yeah, they were

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breaking every single rule of basic tradecraft.

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Which forces us to ask how they survived for

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so long? I mean, how did no one catch on? Well,

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they survived because the institutional prejudice

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of the British intelligence services meant that

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investigators were looking for spies who fit

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a specific profile. In that era, the security

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services assumed a Soviet spy would be, you know,

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a foreigner, a working -class agitator, or someone

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openly affiliated with radical labor unions.

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So they weren't looking inward. Exactly. They

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did not have the cognitive framework to suspect

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people from their own elite social circles. I

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mean, think about it. If a working class quirk

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dropped a secret file outside a pub, he would

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be detained and interrogated immediately. Oh,

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absolutely. But when Guy Burgess did it, his

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colleagues just brushed it off as an eccentric

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gentleman having a bit too much sherry. That

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affinity bias, that tendency to trust people

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who share our background and social markers,

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it just blinded the entire security apparatus.

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That blind spot was incredibly effective. But

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eventually, the sheer volume of their theft created

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a trail. And that trail leads us to the turning

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point in our collective biography, which is the

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defection in the summer of 1951. Right. The House

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of Cards starts to fall. Exactly. But the unraveling

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didn't actually start in London. It started across

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the Atlantic in the United States with something

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called the Venona Project. Yes. The Venona Project

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was a highly classified joint effort by American

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and British intelligence to decrypt Soviet diplomatic

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and intelligence communications. Okay. And how

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did they manage that? Well, during the immense

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pressure of the Second World War, Soviet code

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clerks made a critical cryptographic error. They

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were using one -time pads, which are meant to

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be unbreakable because each encryption key is

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used only once and then destroyed. OK, hence

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the name one time pad. Exactly. However, due

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to wartime shortages and just massive logistical

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strain, the Soviets occasionally reuse pages

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from these pads. Oh, wow. Which gave the code

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breakers at Bonona the tiny wedge they needed

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to start recognizing patterns and decrypting

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the messages. Precisely. And through those painstakingly

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decrypted messages, Allied intelligence realized

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there was a highly placed mole operating inside

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the British embassy in Washington. And what did

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they call him? The communications referred to

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this mole by the code name Homer. Right. And

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sitting right there in Washington, working as

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the MI6 liaison to American intelligence, looking

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over the shoulders of the people hunting this

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mall, is Kim Philby. Yeah, the irony is thick.

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He is reading the Venona decrypts in real time.

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He is. And Philby looks at the evidence, you

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know, the dates of the leaked information, the

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locations involved, and he quickly deduces that

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Homer is his old Cambridge associate, Donald

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McClain. The mechanical problem Philby faces

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here is intense. I mean, he knows the net is

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closing around McLean. And if McLean gets interrogated

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by British security, he might crack under the

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pressure. And then the entire Cambridge network

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comes tumbling down. Exactly. So Philby has to

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warn him. But Philby is in Washington, and McLean

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is in London. He can't just use secure diplomatic

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channels. And he can't make a phone call without

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risking interception. So he uses Guy Burgess.

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Right. Burgess was also stationed in the United

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States at the time. So to bypass the communication

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blockade, Burgess deliberately engaged in just

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outrageously bad behavior. Worse than dropping

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files outside a pub. Oh, definitely. Racking

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up speeding tickets, causing diplomatic embarrassments,

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just acting totally out of control until the

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British embassy fired him. and recalled him to

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London. So it was entirely a fabricated excuse

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to get Burgess physically across the Atlantic

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so he could warn McLean in person. Exactly. It

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was all a ruse. That is incredibly clever. So

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in the summer of 1951, Burgess delivers the warning.

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And just as the authorities are finally preparing

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to confront McLean, both McLean and Burgess completely

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vanish. They just slip right out of country.

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On a ferry, leaving their families and colleagues

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entirely in the dark. For years, their whereabouts

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are a complete mystery to the public until they

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resurface in 1956 at a press conference in Moscow

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after living covertly in a closed Russian city

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called Kubyshev. But how did one single decryption

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in Washington manage to completely blow apart

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a spy ring that had successfully operated in

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the shadows for nearly two decades? Well, if

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we connect this to the bigger picture, the defection

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reveals the profound vulnerability of their operation.

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You know, the very interconnectedness that made

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the group so successful in their espionage became

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the instrument of their downfall. How so? They

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were a tight -knit network. They shared information,

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covered for each other, and lived together. But

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that meant they were inextricably linked in the

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eyes of an investigation. Because Philby and

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Burgess were notoriously close. I mean, they

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even shared a house in Washington. Right. So

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by trying to protect the network, they illuminated

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the entire web. When Burgess unexpectedly defected

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alongside McLean, the intelligence services suddenly

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had to look at Philby. They couldn't ignore him

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anymore. No. They had to ask how a known Soviet

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spy was living in a house of their top anti -Soviet

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intelligence officer. Their shared social circle,

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which had protected them for decades, suddenly

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became a roadmap for investigators. Which brings

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us to the aftermath, the long shadows of the

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story, and the incredible lengths the British

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government went to in order to cover it all up.

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And they really tried. They really did. Because

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after Burgess and McLean disappear, a massive

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spotlight hits Philby. But he doesn't immediately

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go down, does he? No. Philby was a master of

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deception. He endured intense interrogation by

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MI5. But because the evidence from Venona was

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highly classified and couldn't be used in a public

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court, there just wasn't enough hard, actionable

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evidence to legally prosecute him. That's frustrating.

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Very. He was forced to resign from MI6. But amazingly,

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in 1955, the British Foreign Secretary, Harold

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McMillan, stood up in Parliament and publicly

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cleared Philby of all espionage charges. He officially

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clears a man who is responsible for the deaths

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of numerous allied agents. It's wild. So Philby

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eventually moves to Beirut to work as a journalist.

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And in another display of that lingering class

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trust, MI6 actually starts using him again. He

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is a freelancer. Right, to file freelance intelligence

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reports from the Middle East. But his luck finally

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runs out in 1961 when a Soviet defector named

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Anatoly Golitsyn provides fresh, undeniable information

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pointing directly at Philby. The net was finally

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closing. Exactly. So by 1963, MI6 sends an officer

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to confront him in Beirut. Philby confesses,

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and shortly after, fearing he is about to be

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abducted or arrested, he slips away on a Soviet

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freighter bound for Russia. His arrival in the

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Soviet Union, however, was a tragedy of his own

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making. See, I'm genuinely confused by something

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here. Philby gave the Soviets his entire life.

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He handed them the keys to the kingdom for decades.

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And yet the sources say they put him under house

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arrest when he arrived in Moscow. Why on earth

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would they treat their star asset like a prisoner?

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It goes back to that institutional paranoia we

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discussed at the very beginning. The KGB could

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not fathom that an elite British intelligence

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officer would genuinely defect. They still thought

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it was a trick. Yes, they were terrified he was

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actually a British triple agent sent to infiltrate

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their ranks or that he might become disillusioned

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and try to defect back to the West. So they gave

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him no real rank. They ignored his advice and

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they kept him isolated. He lived a pretty miserable

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existence within the very system he had sacrificed

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everything to serve. Wow. Talk about a bleak

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ending. So that's three of them gone to Moscow.

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But we still have Anthony Blunt and John Cairncross

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sitting right there in Britain. Yes. And this

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is where the story shifts from a tale of espionage

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to a tale of systemic institutional self -preservation.

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In 1964, both Blunt and Cairncross secretly confessed

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to MI5. Secretly. Secretly. Blunt was named by

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an American he had tried to recruit back at Cambridge.

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And Cairncross was confronted with new evidence.

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But they weren't put on trial. They weren't publicly

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disgraced. I have another point of confusion

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here. How did the intelligence agencies legally

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justify granting immunity to high level traders

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without Parliament or the public knowing? Well,

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the intelligence agencies were functioning with

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an extraordinary level of autonomy back then,

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largely outside normal governmental oversight.

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They argued internally that extracting a full

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confession and learning exactly what secrets

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had been compromised was more valuable to national

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security than a public trial. But there was a

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secondary motive. Of course. The unstated motivation

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was preventing a catastrophic public relations

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disaster. It makes me think of a major bank discovering

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a massive internal embezzlement scheme orchestrated

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by its own board of directors. You know, instead

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of calling the police and triggering a panic

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that causes shareholders to pull all their money

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out, the bank quietly fires the directors, covers

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the losses, and pretends everything is fine just

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to preserve confidence in the institution. That's

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a perfect analogy. The British intelligence agencies

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were so terrified of the public humiliation of

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admitting to their allies that they had been

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comprehensively bested by their own elite that

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they chose to protect the traitors rather than

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face public accountability. And the damage of

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that coverup extended far beyond mere public

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relations. It deeply fractured the trust between

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Western allies. I can imagine the Americans were

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not happy. Not at all. The United States intelligence

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community watched as Britain repeatedly failed

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to identify spies in their midst and then watched

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as they quietly buried the aftermath. The cover

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-up did as much damage to the relationship between

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US and UK intelligence as the actual stolen documents

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did. It wasn't until 1979, 15 years after his

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secret confession, that an investigative journalist

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named Andrew Boyle wrote a book that heavily

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hinted at Anthony Blunt's identity. which finally

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forced their hand. Right. That publication forced

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Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to stand up

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in parliament and finally admit that the former

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surveyor of the Queen's pictures was a confessed

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Soviet spy. And Karen Cross publicly confessed

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to a journalist later that same year. Just an

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unbelievable timeline. And this wasn't just a

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1960s problem either. Even recently, with archive

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releases in 2015 and 2020, we've learned that

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files regarding the Cambridge Five were heavily

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redacted or withheld entirely for decades. Yeah,

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they really kept a lid on it. The government

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intentionally conducted campaigns to keep things

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confidential simply to minimize political embarrassment

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long after the national security threat had passed.

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Like sweeping dirt under a rug until the rug

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becomes a mountain that everyone in the room

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just has to step over. It demonstrates how deeply

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the sting of this spy ring penetrated the British

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establishment. It wasn't just a loss of state

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secrets. It was a devastating permanent blow

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to their self image. So what does this all mean?

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We've traced these five men from the fierce ideological

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debates of Cambridge in the 1930s, through their

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infiltration of MI6 in the Foreign Office, all

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the way to midnight defections, house arrest

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in Moscow, and decades of government cover -ups.

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A massive journey. Yeah. We set out today to

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build a biography of this group, and what we

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found is that the story of the Cambridge Five

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isn't just about stolen documents or broken codes.

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It is the story of a catastrophic betrayal by

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the very people who were built, educated, and

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explicitly trusted to protect the establishment.

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This raises an important question, doesn't it?

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I think so, yeah. When we analyze the 1930s and

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40s, it is incredibly easy to mock the British

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authorities for their blindness. You know, it's

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easy to say they were foolish to trust like Burgess

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and Philby simply because they went to the right

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schools and spoke with the right accents. Right.

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But affinity bias, the subconscious tendency

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to trust people who look and sound like us, who

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share our cultural markers, is a fundamental

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human flaw that transcends that specific era.

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It really is. So if you are listening to this

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right now, we want to leave you with this final

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thought to mull over. If the ultimate threat

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to national security back then came from the

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most privileged, educated, and trusted echelon

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of society, the people everyone assumed were

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inherently safe, how might our current assumptions

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about who belongs in the corridors of power be

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blinding us to the insider threats of today?

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That's a sobering thought. We might not be looking

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for aristocratic art curators passing microfilms

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to the KGB anymore, but we are always vulnerable

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to our own blind spots. Like the Soviets staring

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at 16 ,000 documents and thinking it couldn't

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possibly be real. Sometimes the most devastating

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breaches happen precisely because they are just

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too easy to believe.
