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You know, when you stand on the sidewalk and

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look up at a massive skyscraper, there's this...

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This expectation of what you're supposed to admire,

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right? Oh, totally. You're looking at the shiny

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exterior. Exactly. You see the gleaming glass,

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the architectural spire, the way it catches the

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sunset. Right, because it's engineered to pull

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your eye. I mean, it's designed to be the absolute

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center of attention, the focal point of the skyline.

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Yeah, but you almost never stop to think about

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the steel beams inside, you know, the unseen

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scaffolding. The stuff doing the actual work.

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Right. And if you pull out that steel, the glittering

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tower doesn't necessarily collapse into dust

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right away, but it loses its shape. It definitely

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can't reach those impossible heights anymore.

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No, it just becomes another ordinary building.

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So today we are unpacking the unseen scaffolding

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of the billboard charts. We're doing a deep dive

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into the career of Tyrone William Griffin Jr.

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Better known to most of you is Ty Dolla Sign.

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Yes, Ty Dolla Sign. And our mission today is

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to figure out how one artist becomes the ultimate,

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like, secret weapon for the entire modern music

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industry. Because the music business operates

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exactly like that skyline you just mentioned.

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Yeah. We are constantly staring at the pop stars,

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you know, the front men, the people with their

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names in the largest font on the festival poster.

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Right, the shiny glass. Exactly. Meanwhile, we

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just completely ignore the architectural steal.

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holding those massive hits together and Ty Dolla

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Sign is that steel. Okay let's unpack this because

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I think we need to start with where he comes

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from. Definitely. Because you know you might

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know his voice from a catchy hook on a summer

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radio hit but his background is wildly unexpected.

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This is a story of just extreme duality. Yeah,

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it really is. So he was born in 1982 in Los Angeles,

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and his musical pedigree is basically like soul

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royalty. Oh, absolutely. I mean, his father,

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Tyrone Griffin, senior, was actually a musician

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in the classic funk and soul band Lakeside, which

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is huge. It's massive. So for a kid growing up

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in the 80s, I meant Ty wasn't just sitting in

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his bedroom listening to records. He was physically

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occupying the same space as musical legends.

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Like, who are we talking about here? We're talking

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earth, wind, and fire. We're talking Prince.

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Wow, literally Prince. Literally Prince. He is

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absorbing this deep, fundamental love for soul

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music directly from the masters of the craft.

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Just right in his living room. Yeah, he's watching

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how a live bass line gets laid down, how vocal

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harmonies are stacked in real time. It's an incredible

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foundation. But then... He walks out the front

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door because he's growing up in South Central

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Los Angeles and he actually becomes a member

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of the Bloods gang while his own brother is in

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the rival gang, the Crips. Which is just, it's

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intense. Let's pause and think about that contrast

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for a second. It is an absolute master class.

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in duality. It's like he was learning high -level

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complex music theory in the living room. And

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high -stakes survival tactics on the front porch.

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Exactly. What's fascinating here is how that

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exact duality forged his emotional intelligence

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as a musician. How so? Well, think about the

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tension of those two environments, right? He

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had to learn how to bridge the raw, open -hearted

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vulnerability and rich harmony of classic 70s

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soul with the gritty, hyper -vigilant reality

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of LA hip -hop and gang culture. He really couldn't

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afford to just be one or the other. No, not at

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all. He had to embody the synthesis of both.

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That's why his music never sounds purely like

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a club record or purely like a neo soul track.

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It always has the DNA of both worlds. And that

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synthesis totally explains his toolkit. Oh, his

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toolkit is insane. We really have to talk about

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what he can actually do in a studio, because

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he refuses to fit neatly into the modern industry

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genre boxes. I mean, he is a self -taught multi

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-instrumentalist. Right. He plays the bass guitar,

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the drums, guitars, keyboards, and the Akai MPC.

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All of it. He literally has an entire funk band's

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worth of capability resting in his own hands.

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It's a staggering amount of musical literacy.

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And you see it clearly in his influences too,

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which are just as eclectic as his upbringing.

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Like a total mix. Yeah. He is active. blending

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the hip -hop sensibilities of Tupac, Mos Def,

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and J Dilla with the instrumental genius of Prince

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and then the absolute vocal acrobatics of gospel

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and R &B legends like Kim Rell and Brandy. Oh

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wow. He's literally taking the swing of a J Dilla

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beat and layering a gospel level vocal run over

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it. Which leads to this incredible quote from

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him from the source material he says I don't

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really consider myself a rapper, I just happen

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to have bars. I still sing, menace en, I'm a

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singer, ya feel me. That's such a great quote

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it is and I really want to push back on the industry

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here Like why do we insist on doing this doing

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what exactly? why do we look at black artists

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who sing who produce their own tracks who play

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five instruments and just happen to have rhythm

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and you know bars and Aggressively categorize

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them purely as rappers. Yeah, it's a huge problem

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Are we limiting our understanding of their artistry

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simply because of the cultural space they occupy

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We absolutely are and we use this lazy cultural

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shorthand to categorize artists based on how

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they dress or the slang they use or the neighborhoods

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they come from. Right, rather than looking at

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the art. Exactly, rather than analyzing how they

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actually construct their art. Pydalassine approaches

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hip -hop with the mind of a composer. A composer?

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Yeah, when he cites Prince as an influence, he

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specifically mentions how Prince sings, produces,

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and plays every instrument. Ty isn't just dropping

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a vocal track over a beat someone emailed him.

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No. He understands the physical architecture

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of the music. He knows exactly how a live bass

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line is talking to an electronic kick drum. Or

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how a keyboard chord needs to create like...

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emotional tension just beneath a vocal harmony.

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Exactly. And here's where it gets really interesting.

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Because he understood that architecture so well,

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his initial success wasn't even as a solo star.

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No, he was way in the background. He found his

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footing by making other people sound amazing.

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He was the guy behind the curtain doing all the

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heavy lifting. Yeah, he was grinding it out long

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before the mainstream knew his name. Back in

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2004, he formed the duo Ty and Corey. Right.

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They were doing guest appearances, putting out

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independent mixtapes, basically learning the

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mechanics of the industry. from the ground up.

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Just putting in the reps. Yep. But the real seismic

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shift happens when he links up with the Los Angeles

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rapper YG. Ah, 2010. They drop the breakout hit,

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toot it, and boot it. That song was everywhere.

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Everywhere. And Ty didn't just casually feature

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on it, he co -performed and produced it. He was

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the rhythmic engine of that entire track. He

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really was. He essentially helped define that

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minimalist, pouncy, modern West Coast sound that

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just took over the radio for the next five years.

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And building on that momentum, he co -founded

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a production team called DRUG. working alongside

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heavyweights like DJ Mustard. He's not just establishing

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himself as a distinct voice at this point. He's

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proving he is a reliable hit maker. He is studying

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and mastering the science of what makes a song

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command human attention. Talk about a resume

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builder. I mean, think about the trajectory of

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going from an underground mixtape duo to what

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has to be the ultimate behind -the -scenes flex

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in the music industry. Oh, you mean the Rihanna

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track? Yes. Earning a writing credit on four

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or five seconds, that massive stripped down track

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with Rihanna, Kanye West, and Paul McCartney.

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It's wild. From the streets of South Central

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LA to literally writing a song for a Beatle.

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It just proves the sheer versatility of his pen

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game. It really does. The underlying pop structure

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required to write a massive club anthem for YG

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is the exact same musical math required to write

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an acoustic pop ballad for Paul McCartney. And

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if we connect this to the bigger picture, it

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explains exactly how he eventually transitions

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into a solo powerhouse. How so? Well, he had

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spent years proving to the industry's top executives

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and artists that he could guarantee a hit. He

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was a known, reliable variable. So he wasn't

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a risk anymore. Exactly. So when he finally steps

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into the solo spotlight, he already has the entire

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industry's trust and backing. That makes total

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sense. And that launches us into the Beach House

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era. Right from 2012 to 2014. He signs with Atlantic

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Records and Wiz Khalifa's Taylor Gang Entertainment.

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And he starts dropping these massive culture

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shifting solo hits. Just back to back bangers.

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Yeah. Paranoid featuring B .O .B. hits the Billboard

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Hot 100, then Or Nah featuring Wiz Khalifa, DJ

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Mustard and later the weekend. drops and goes

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sextuple platinum. Sextuple platinum is insane.

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It became an absolute anthem. It did. And he

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builds this rock solid solo foundation with critically

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acclaimed albums like Free TC in 2015 and Beach

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House 3 in 2017. Yeah. But the unique genius

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of Ty Dolla Sign is that even as his solo star

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is rising, He never unandens his role as the

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ultimate collaborator. No, he really doesn't.

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In fact, he leans into it harder than anyone

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else in the business. He completely dominates

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as a featured artist. He's like the emergency

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contact you call when your song is sitting at

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a B plus and needs to become an A plus cultural

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moment. Exactly. He's the fixer. Yeah. He wins

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an MTV Video Music Award for Best Collaboration

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on Fifth Harmony's Pop Smash work from home.

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Which was huge. Huge. Then he shifts gears completely

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and does rock -infused tracks for the Suicide

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Squad soundtrack. Talk about versatility. Right.

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And then he hits number one on the Billboard

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Hot 100 with Post Malone's Psycho, which by the

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way is certified diamond. Diamond. That's rare

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air. That means it moved over 10 million units.

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Yeah. And all of this collaborative dominance

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culminates in his 2020 album, which has a remarkably

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telling title. It's called Featuring Ty Dolla

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Sign. I love the history behind this title so

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much. It's so good. He actually planned to name

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that third studio album Tyrone after his birth

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name. Which makes total sense for a highly personal

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introspective project. Right, but he pivoted

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and changed it to featuring Ty Dolla Sign as

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this incredibly self -aware tongue -in -cheek

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nod to his own reputation. He fully embraced

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that he is the industry's favorite collaborator.

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Yeah, he owned it. It's a brilliant pivot because

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it highlights a modern reality. In the streaming

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era, being the perfect feature is an absolute

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superpower. Because of the algorithms, right?

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Exactly. The music industry today is heavily

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driven by algorithmic playlists that reward cross

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-pollination between fanbases. When Ty Dolla

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Sign features on a track, he acts as sonic glue.

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Because of his deep understanding of music theory

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and his ability to play multiple instruments,

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he fills whatever frequency gap is missing in

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a track. He just knows what it needs. Yeah. He

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can adapt his vocal tone to blend with a bright

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pop track by Fifth Harmony just as easily as

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a moody R &B track by S .C .A. or, you know,

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an aggressive rap track by Megan Lee Stallion.

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He's like a musical chameleon. Right. He guarantees

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a baseline level of musicality that elevates

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everyone else in the room. He really is the connective

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tissue of the charts. And speaking of that cross

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-pollination, we can't fully grasp his collaborative

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nature without looking at one of the most defining,

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complex partnerships of his career. Oh, absolutely.

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His symbiosis with Kanye West. Their working

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relationship is a major through line in modern

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hip hop. It's fascinating how they push each

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other's boundaries. Yeah, they really do. For

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instance, when Ty was working on his 2020 album,

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he played early cuts for Kanye. And Kanye gave

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him a pivotal piece of advice. What was it? He

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essentially told Ty to stop trying to fit into

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standard hip hop molds. He told them to add more

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live bass, add more live drums to be the best

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you. Wow. Kanye was pushing Ty to fully embrace

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and weaponize those multi instrumentalist roots

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from his lakeside childhood. It's like Kanye

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gave him the final layer of permission to bring

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that 70s funk Prince inspired musicality all

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the way to the forefront of a modern rap album.

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And that creative partnership obviously evolved

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into the massive Vultures era spanning 2023 to

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2024. Yeah, they formally formed the duo and

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dropped Vultures 1. Which actually gave Ty his

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first ever number one Billboard 200 album in

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his entire career. Really well deserved too.

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Definitely. Then came Vultures 2 with a third

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installment and his upcoming solo album Tycoon

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teased for 2025. But you know that fierce independence

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and loyalty that Kanye encouraged musically actually

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spilled over into Ty's real world loyalty. as

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well. Right. Yeah. And just to give you listening,

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the full historical picture of how intertwined

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they became, and I want to be very clear here,

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we are simply sharing the historical record without

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taking or endorsing any political sides ourselves.

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Absolutely. Just giving you the facts from our

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sources. Exactly. The fact is Ty actually formally

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endorsed Kanye's 2020 presidential run. Wow.

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Yeah. It shows a level of personal loyalty that

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goes way beyond simply sharing a studio and making

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beats together. It really is a testament to how

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deep those industry bonds go. But that level

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of stratospheric fame and billboard success...

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doesn't somehow shield him from reality, you

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know? No, not at all. His biography is grounded

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by a very real, very serious personal life. He

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is a practicing Muslim. He is a father to a daughter

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named Jalen, who was born in 2005. Yeah. And

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he has faced incredibly severe real world challenges

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that threaten to derail everything, like his

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2018 legal scare in Atlanta. Oh, man. That was

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a highly precarious moment that rarely gets talked

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about when we discuss his chart success What

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exactly happened? Well his car which had multiple

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people in it was pulled over for a traffic stop

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But because Ty was in close proximity to the

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drugs found in the vehicle, he was the only individual

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charged. The only one. The only one. He was suddenly

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facing up to 15 years in prison for cocaine and

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marijuana possession. 15 years. That isn't just

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a bump in the road. That is a career -ending,

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life -altering amount of time. It really is.

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If those charges stick, the vultures era doesn't

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happen. Featuring Ty Belassine doesn't happen.

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None of it. Thankfully, all charges were ultimately

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dropped after he completed a drug prevention

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program, but it shows how incredibly fragile

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this entire architectural structure is. Yeah,

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how quickly everything he built, all that sonic

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scaffolding, could have just vanished overnight.

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So what does this all mean? How do we synthesize

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all of this? The funk royalty background, navigating

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the Bloods, the studio mastery, the chart nomination,

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the near -miss with the legal system? I think

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it means that Ty Dolla $ign is the ultimate adapter.

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The adapter. Yeah. He survived the intense streets

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of Los Angeles. He survived the shifting volatile

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tides of the music industry moving from the blog

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era to the streaming era. And he survived the

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American legal system. That's a lot of surviving.

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It is. And he navigates all of it through sheer

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musical fluency. He balances the chaos of his

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environment and his industry by being the one

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thing everybody else desperately needs. Which

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is? A master architect who knows exactly how

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to build a hit song from the foundation up. Which

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brings us back to you listening to this right

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now. Why is unpacking all of this matter to your

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everyday life? Yeah, why should you care? Because

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the next time you get in your car, turn on the

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radio, or let a Spotify playlist run, you are

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listening to a sonic landscape that was largely

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shaped by Ty Dolla Sign's ear. You really are.

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Understanding his journey from watching earth,

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wind and fire harmonize in his living room, to

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surviving South Central, to grinding as a background

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producer, to finally hitting number one on the

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Billboard charts. It fundamentally changes how

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you consume modern pop music. It totally does.

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Knowledge is always most valuable when it shifts

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your perspective on the mundane. So the next

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time you hear a catchy tie doll a sign hook on

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a club track. I want you to listen deeper. Listen

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for the steel beams. Yes. Don't just hear the

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catchy vocal melody. Listen for the live bass

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line grooving underneath it. Listen to how the

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hi -hats are programmed to leave space for the

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snare. Yeah. Listen for the deep complex music

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theory hiding just beneath the surface of a song

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designed to make you dance. You're hearing decades

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of musical history, gang survival, and studio

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mastery compressed into a three -minute track.

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It really is incredible when you peel back those

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layers and look at the steel beams. And we want

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to leave you with one final thought to mull over

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today. Let's hear it. We started by talking about

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sty scrapers and the unseen scaffolding that

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holds them up. In a music industry that is obsessively

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focused on frontmen, on solo egos, and on who

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gets the brightest, most blinding spotlight.

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Right. Could it be that the most truly powerful

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people in the business aren't the ones standing

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alone at the microphone? Could the real power

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belong to the rare artists who know exactly how

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to play well with others? It's the collaborators

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who pour the concrete and build the foundation

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that everyone else gets to stand on. Something

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to think about the next time you check the writing

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credits on your favorite song. Thanks for joining

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us for the deep dive. We'll catch you next time.
