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Imagine you are like standing in the front row

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of a packed concert hall. It's the late 1960s.

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Oh, the energy in those rooms must have been

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just unreal. Totally deafening, right. And up

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on stage. The front man is just this absolute

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blur of motion. I mean, he's dropping into flawless

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splits, spinning the microphone stand around,

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sliding across the floorboard. With his back

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to the audience, usually. Exactly, back to the

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audience. And he throws his hands out to the

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side, fingers splaying wide, and they're pulsating

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perfectly to the beat. It looks like pure groove.

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Yeah, to you in the audience, it's just pure

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unadulterated soul. But behind the scenes, those

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flashing fingers are actually this secret real

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time. This is one of my favorite details. Right.

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He is pointing at the bass player, holding up

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five fingers, and signaling a $50 fine, just

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because the guy missed a single note. It completely

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reframes how you watch those old performances,

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you know. It really does. Because we think we

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know the performer. That sweat -drenched, cape

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-wearing spectacle is just, well, it's so deeply

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ingrained in our cultural memory. But behind

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that incredibly polished surface was a system

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of absolute almost terrifying control. Welcome

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to The Deep Dive. Today we are pulling from a

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massive, comprehensive Wikipedia biography to

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explore the life, the music, the crimes, and

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man, the deep controversies of James Brown. There

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is a lot to cover. Oh yeah. Our mission for you...

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Our listener is to look way beyond that godfather

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of soul caricature. We want to uncover how a

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kid born in the most desperate circumstances

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imaginable managed to build the literal architecture

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of modern music. While simultaneously ruling

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his world like a relentless dictator. OK, let's

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unpack this, because you really cannot understand

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the intensity of the man without looking at the

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absolute desperation that forged him. You hit

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the nail on the head with the word desperation.

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I mean, when we look at his birth in 1933 in

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rural South Carolina, we aren't just talking

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about a family having a tough time. a precarious

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survival by any means kind of existence. He was

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born in this tiny wooden shack. Wow. Yeah. And

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his mother fled an abusive marriage when he was

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just a little boy. So he was eventually sent

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off to live in Augusta, Georgia. But not to a

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normal home. No, not at all. He was taken in

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by his aunt, who actually ran a brothel. I mean,

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just think about that. A wooden shack in the

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Jim Crow South to a brothel. That is his starting

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line. It's heavy. I was reading through this

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early history, and it's just jarring to realize

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he never really got to be a child, like he's

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a little kid out on the streets trying to hustle

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just to get a meal. Yeah, he was always working.

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There's this one detail about him performing

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buck dances for loose change, just to entertain

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World War II troops passing through Camp Corden.

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Yeah. What exactly is a buck dance? So buck dancing

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is an old traditional African -American vernacular

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dance. OK. It's essentially an early informal

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style of tap dancing done flat footed and usually

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without actual tap shoes. Oh, so just regular

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shoes. Right, it's highly percussive, very rhythmic.

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So picture this young boy dancing on the dirt

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or on wooden planks, using his feet as a drum

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to literally earn his dinner from passing soldiers.

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That is wow. Performance from the very beginning

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wasn't about artistic expression for him. It

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was a strict transaction for survival. And when

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dancing didn't pay enough. He turned to anything

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else he could, right? Like he learned piano and

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guitar, he tried boxing. He's a pretty decent

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boxer for a minute. Yeah, but eventually he resorted

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to crime. By age 16, he's convicted of robbery

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and locked up in a juvenile detention center.

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Which is where his musical ability actually provides

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a lifeline. In Juvie, he earns the nickname Music

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Box. Music Box, I love that. And this leads to

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this highly cinematic turning point. He's playing

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in a prison baseball game, of all things. Naturally.

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And a visiting gospel singer named Bobby Bird

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happens to be there. Bird hears about this music

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box kid, listens to him sing, and is just so

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blown away that he actually helps secure Brown's

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early parole. That is wild. Just right place,

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right time. Exactly. But the condition of the

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release was that Brown had to get a job and,

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quote, sing for the Lord. I always wonder what

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happens to a person's psychology when their only

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ticket out of a literal prison is their ability

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to entertain. It changes you, for sure. It makes

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complete sense that he treated show business

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like a life or death scenario. He later gets

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dubbed the hardest working man in show business.

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But reading this background, I don't think it

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was just about ambition. No, not at all. It's

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like a pressure cooker, right? All this trauma

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and desperation condensing into this explosive

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energy, it feels like he was just constantly

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trying to outrun the abyss. That's a crucial

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distinction. When the alternative you've experienced

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is the absolute bottom of society, you don't

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play music just for the love of it. You play

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it as if your life depends on it. Because it

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did. Exactly. He built this impenetrable armor

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of self -reliance, and that relentless driving

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energy fundamentally changed how music was constructed.

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Here's where it gets really interesting because

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the James Brown who gets out of juvenile detention,

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he starts off singing pretty standard gospel

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and rhythm and blues. Very traditional stuff.

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But somehow he ends up inventing an entirely

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new genre. How does a guide transition from standard

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1950s R &B to creating funk? He did it by completely

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deconstructing Western music. If you listen to

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his first big hit with the famous flames in 1956,

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please, please, please. Wait, didn't Little Richard

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help with that? Yes. Remarkably, it was inspired

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by Little Richard writing those words on a napkin

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for him. That is such a cool piece of history.

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Right. But musically, it's still a traditional

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rhythm and blues ballad. It has a standard melody,

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standard chord changes. OK, so normal song structure.

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Right. But fast forward a decade to 1967 to a

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track called Cold Sweat. Music historians generally

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agree this is the first true funk song. What

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makes it the first? The reason is that Brown

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stripped the harmony away almost entirely. The

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entire song is built around a single chord. Wait.

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Just one chord for the whole song. Just one.

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It's like a mechanic taking a luxury car, ripping

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out the leather seats, throwing away the shiny

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exterior, and stripping it down to nothing but

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the engine block and the wheels. That is a perfect

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analogy. He's tossing out the pretty melodies

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and the complex progressions and saying, no,

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we only care about the pistons firing. Yes. And

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to make that single chord engine run, he changed

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the function of every instrument in the band.

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The guitar is no longer there to play a melody.

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What was it doing then? He instructed his guitarists

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to treat their instruments like African drums.

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The focus shifted entirely to the attack points

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like the percussive strike of the pick hitting

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the strings rather than the actual pitch of the

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notes. Oh wow. I notice his vocals completely

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change in this era, too. Like, he stops singing

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those sweeping melodies and starts doing this

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rhythmic, punctuated shouting. It's a technique

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called rhythmic declamation. He wasn't quite

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singing, but he wasn't speaking, either. It was

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early rapping, in a way. Oh yeah, that makes

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sense. He turned his own voice into another percussive

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instrument. He layered all these different instruments,

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playing very sparse, repetitive patterns that

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lock together. It's so hypnotic. And this is

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where we need to talk about syncopation. Syncopation

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is when you place the musical accent on a weak

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beat or a beat where the listener isn't expecting

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it. It creates a feeling of forward momentum,

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a groove that makes you want to move. Right,

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it gives it that bounce. Exactly. But to keep

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all that syncopation from falling apart into

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total chaos, Brown relied on a concept he called

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The One. I've heard musicians talk about The

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One in hushed tones before. What is the actual

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mechanic of it? Standard 4 -4 musical measure,

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meaning you count one, two, three, four most

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traditional R &B and rock music, but the heavy

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emphasis on beats two and four. Like the snare

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drum. Right, that's your back beat. But James

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Brown demanded that every single instrument in

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his band hit beat one, the one, with absolute

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undeniable force. So it's one, two, three, four,

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one, two, three, four. Everything else in the

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measure could be highly complex, crazy syncopated

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rhythms, but they all had to anchor tightly back

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to that explosive. of first downbeat. And that

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framework is exactly why we're talking about

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him today. If you're listening right now, you

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love hip hop, house music, or drum and bass.

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The literal DNA of those genres is James Brown's

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interlocking rhythms. Absolutely anchored to

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the one. It's the reason his late 60s drum breaks

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are the most sampled pieces of audio in human

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history. Exactly. He provided the literal building

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blocks for modern dance music. But wait, how

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do you get a dozen different musicians to hit

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the one with that kind of flawless, aggressive

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precision every single night? You can't just

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jam your way into that. You really can't. And

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that brings us to the dictator of the stage.

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Achieving that sound required uncompromising

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discipline. Like military discipline. Literally.

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Performers in the James Brown review weren't

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just musicians. They were soldiers in his army.

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They had to wear identical tuxedos with cummerbunds.

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Wow. Their patent leather shoes had to be perfectly

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greased and shined or else. And this loops back

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to that incredible image from the beginning of

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the deep dive. The finds. I was amazed reading

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about the hand signals. It's legendary. He's

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up there doing the hardest footwork in show business.

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The crowd is going insane. And simultaneously,

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he's auditing his band. It's a phenomenal display

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of multitasking. If a horn player was a quarter

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beat late, Brown wouldn't stop the show. He would

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just do a spin, point at the guy, and flash a

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number with his fingers. And that was it. That

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was your monetary fine deducted straight from

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your paycheck. It really is like a baseball manager

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flashing steel signs from the dugout. Except

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the signs mean you're losing a chunk of your

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rent money while 10 ,000 people applaud. It was

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incredibly harsh. Oh, and we can't forget the

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famous cape routine. Oh, right. During, please,

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please, please, where he collapses and they throw

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the cape on him. Yes. You know where he got that

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from? No, where? Professional wrestling. He was

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inspired by a wrestler named Gorgeous George.

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Wait, a wrestler? That actually makes so much

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sense with his flair for the dramatic. Exactly.

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But his need for dominance didn't stop with his

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own band. If he felt an opening act was getting

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too much crowd reaction, he would sabotage them.

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What? How? He'd order their set cut short without

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warning, or he would literally walk out on stage

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during their performance and start playing the

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drum kit, just to visually remind the audience

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whose house they were in. I mean, that is just

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raw, unchecked ego, isn't it? It's easy to dismiss

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it as just ego, but we really have to look at

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the broader context. Think about what it meant

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to be a black artist touring America in the 1950s

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and 60s. Ah, right. He was operating in a deeply

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segregated, structurally unequal society. Black

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performers were routinely marginalized, underpaid,

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or dismissed as unprofessional by the mainstream

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establishment. So he couldn't afford a single

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mistake. Exactly. For James Brown, maintaining

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a flawless, highly disciplined, undeniable presentation

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was a shield. It was a matter of professional

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survival. He had to be so perfect that no one

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could ever deny him his money or his respect.

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That makes a lot of sense. The perfection was

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his armor. But as we move forward in his life,

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that intense need to control his environment

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bleeds into his politics and his community activism.

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And it gets complicated. It really does. Honestly,

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this is where I start getting really confused

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because his political actions seem completely

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contradictory. The paradoxes of his public life

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are fascinating. A great starting point is April

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1968. Martin Luther King Jr. has just been assassinated.

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A hugely pivotal moment. Cities across America

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are erupting in riots, burning with grief and

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anger. And James Brown happens to be scheduled

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to play a massive concert at the Boston Garden

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the very next night. And the mayor of Boston,

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Kevin White, is terrified. He wants to cancel

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the concert because he thinks a massive gathering

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will spark a riot in his city. Right, but they

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eventually strike a deal to broadcast the concert

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live on public television to keep people at home

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off the streets. And it worked, didn't it? It

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was a massive success in terms of public safety.

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Brown's performance transfixed the city. Boston

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remained relatively calm, while other major cities

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saw a severe unrest. But there was a catch. Always.

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The underlying mechanics of that night show Brown's

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ruthless business acumen. Because the concert

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was televised for free, ticket holders demanded

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refunds, Brown was facing a massive financial

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loss. So what does he do? He basically holds

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the city hostage, right? Essentially, yes. He

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went to the city's power brokers and demanded

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$60 ,000 to cover his lost gate fees. Unbelievable.

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He made it clear that if they didn't cut him

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a check, he would go public about the backdoor

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arrangement, or worse, he just wouldn't perform

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at all. For a mayor, trying to stop a riot, that

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would have been political suicide. The city found

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the money and paid him. He saves the city from

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burning, but he makes absolutely sure he gets

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paid for the service. Exactly. And then a few

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months later, he records Say It Loud I'm Black

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and I'm Proud, which becomes the defining anthem

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of the civil rights movement. But then I read

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that he actually regretted making it. He did.

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How do you regret your most famous Pride anthem?

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He felt it was misunderstood. By 1984, he stated

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publicly that while the song did a lot of good,

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he wouldn't do it again if given the choice.

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Why? His reasoning was, quote, I don't like defining

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anyone by race. To teach race is to teach separatism.

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So what does this all mean? How does the man

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who wrote the ultimate black pride anthem end

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up getting picketed by black audiences, holding

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signs that say James Brown? Nixon's clown. It's

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a stark contrast. Because he endorsed Democrats

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like Hubert Humphrey, but then he threw his full

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weight behind Republicans like Richard Bixson

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and Ronald Reagan. And while he's hanging out

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with conservative politicians, he's actively

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mentoring a teenage Al Sharpton in the civil

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rights movement. I just don't see how these pieces

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fit together. It looks like pure chaos from the

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outside. Yeah. But if we look objectively at

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the facts, there is a very clear mechanical logic

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to it all, which is Absolute self -reliance.

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Back to the childhood trauma. Exactly. Remember

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the wooden shack? Remember the juvenile detention

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center? Brown didn't care about the traditional

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left -wing or right -wing political spectrum.

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His sole political compass was black economic

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independence. Oh. When Richard Nixon ran for

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president, he heavily promoted a concept called

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black capitalism to appeal to moderate black

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voters. OK, so what did black capitalism actually

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mean in practice? For Brown, it meant ownership.

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He wanted black Americans to own radio stations,

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banks, and grocery stores rather than relying

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on government assistance. I see. He didn't see

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aligning with Nixon as a betrayal of civil rights.

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He saw it as a pragmatic, necessary alliance

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to get black entrepreneurs access to federal

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loans and capital. Oh, that makes the Al Sharpton

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connection make more sense. Right. Mentoring

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Al Sharpton to fight for civil rights on the

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street while shaking hands with Ronald Reagan

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in the White House wasn't a contradiction to

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James Brown. It was just... Him playing every

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available angle to secure economic power and

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self -reliance for his community. He wanted absolute

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control over his money, his narrative, and his

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community standing. Completely. But, and this

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is the profoundly tragic turn in this deep dive,

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that need for control eventually collapsed in

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on itself. We've spent this whole time talking

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about a man who demanded military -level discipline

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from everyone in his orbit. But behind closed

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doors, his personal life descended into absolute

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chaos. The rules he rigidly enforced on others

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ceased to apply to him. For decades, he ran a

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strictly drug -free band. He would fire a musician

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instantly if he caught them high. Right. Another

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$50 fine. Or worse. Much worse. But by the 1980s,

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Brown himself was struggling with severe substance

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abuse, specifically heavily using PCP, also known

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as angel dust. And the results were incredibly

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destructive and very public. In 1988, he gets

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involved in a high speed two state police chase

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along the Georgia, South Carolina border. It's

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a really infamous incident. The police shot out

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his tires and he just kept driving on the rims.

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He was eventually caught convicted of carrying

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an unlicensed pistol, assaulting a police officer

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and driving under the influence. A judge sentenced

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him to six years in prison, though he was paroled

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after two. But the tragedy extends far beyond

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a police chase. The historical record outlines

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a harrowing pattern of domestic violence. It's

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very difficult to read about. Former band members

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have recounted witnessing him being physically

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abusive toward Tammy Terrell, who was just as

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a teenager singing in his review in the 1960s.

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And later in his life, his third marriage to

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Adriana Rodriguez was plagued by numerous arrests

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for assault. She filed reports stating he beat

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her with an iron pipe and even shot at her car

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while they were both under the influence of PCP.

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It's a genuinely dark reality to reconcile with

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the musical genius. It really is. It makes you

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wonder. did the same obsessive boundary pushing

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drive that allowed him to escape poverty and

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invent a new genre of music inevitably lead to

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his total personal unraveling. This raises an

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important question about the ghosts of our past.

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James Brown conquered the music industry, he

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amassed incredible wealth, and he forced the

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world to respect him. Yeah. But he was never

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able to conquer his own internal demons. The

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profound trauma of his childhood, you know, the

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abandonment, the survivalist mentality, it seems

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to have stalked him until the end of his life.

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He was a man who never learned how to stop running.

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And honestly, the running didn't even stop when

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he died. He passed away on Christmas Day in 2006

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from congestive heart failure. But reading about

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the aftermath of his death, it was an absolute

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circus. The chaos completely outlived him. His

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death triggered a sprawling 15 year legal war

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over his estate. 15 years. How does an escape

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battle last a decade and a half? Because the

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sheer complexity of his life finally caught up

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with him. First, there were multiple unacknowledged

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children coming forward, requiring a wave of

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DNA tests. Oh, wow. Then there was a massive

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legal brawl involving a woman named Tomi Ray.

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She claimed to be his legal widow and demanded

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a massive share of the estate. And did she get

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it? Well, the fighting was so vicious that it

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went all the way to the South Carolina Supreme

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Court. In 2020, the court finally ruled that

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she was never legally his wife because she had

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failed to properly annul a previous marriage

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before marrying Brown. That is messy. It wasn't

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until 2021 that the estate was finally settled.

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15 years of lawyers fighting over the fractured

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empire of a man who demanded total control. It's

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a really heavy place to land. It is. We started

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this deep dive looking at a cartoonish godfather

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of soul. But what we actually found in these

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sources was a man defined entirely by extreme

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dualities. Very true. He was born into the dirt

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of poverty and died with immense wealth. He pioneered

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a musical discipline so perfectly strict that

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it required hand signal fines, yet his personal

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life was swallowed by drugs and violence. Yeah.

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He was a civil rights icon who believed deeply

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in black pride, but he was also a ruthless pragmatist

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who used conservative politicians to build his

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own economic power. It is an incredibly dense

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legacy, but for you, the listener, I think there

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is a very practical takeaway. What was that?

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The next time you put on a pair of headphones,

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whether you are listening to a classic hip hop

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track, a funk groove, or even modern electronic

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dance music, try to actively listen for the one.

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Beat one. Yes. Listen for that explosive anchor

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on the very first downbeat. When you hear it,

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you are hearing the exact space where James Brown

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stripped the engine of Western music down to

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its bare rhythmic core. I really love that. And

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while you're listening for the one, I want to

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leave you with a final thought to mull over.

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We spent a lot of time today talking about James

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Brown's relentless, almost dictatorial demand

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for perfect, flawless rhythm from the human beings

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around him. Today, nearly all popular music is

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made using computers and drum machines that quantize

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beats, snapping them perfectly onto a digital

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grid without a millisecond of human error. Do

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you think that modern robotic perfection is the

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ultimate realization of what James Brown was

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always searching for? Or would he hate it because

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the music finally achieved absolute control but

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lost the sweaty, desperate human struggle that

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made it funk in the first place? That is a fascinating

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question. Think about that. Next time you tap

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your foot, we'll catch you on the next deep dive.
