WEBVTT

00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.940
It's kind of wild to think about, but in 1968,

00:00:03.220 --> 00:00:06.000
it was completely legal for a landlord to just

00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:08.619
look you in the eye and deny you a home simply

00:00:08.619 --> 00:00:10.679
because of the color of your skin. Yeah, totally

00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:12.419
legal. I mean, you could have the money, right?

00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:14.400
You could have the credit. But if you tried to

00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.239
cross this invisible geographic line into a white

00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.219
neighborhood, the door would just be shut in

00:00:19.219 --> 00:00:21.640
your face. Exactly. And the most shocking part

00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.960
of the history here is that it took literal riots

00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.640
outside the doors of Congress to finally change

00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:31.239
that. Welcome to The Deep Dive. Today we are

00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:33.880
pulling from a massive stack of source materials,

00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:37.439
primarily looking at a really comprehensive historical

00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.100
and legal breakdown of a single monumental piece

00:00:41.100 --> 00:00:44.039
of legislation, the Civil Rights Act of 1968.

00:00:44.299 --> 00:00:46.939
And our mission today isn't just to, you know...

00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:49.960
walk you through a dry timeline of congressional

00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:51.960
votes. Right. Nobody wants that. No, definitely

00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.119
not. We are looking at this specific legislative

00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.719
package because it is essentially the blueprint

00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.060
for the modern American landscape. I mean, it

00:00:59.060 --> 00:01:01.579
dictated who gets to live where. But it also

00:01:01.579 --> 00:01:03.899
goes much further than housing, right? Because

00:01:03.899 --> 00:01:06.500
as we go through the sources, we see this single

00:01:06.500 --> 00:01:09.540
document also redefine the sovereignty of Native

00:01:09.540 --> 00:01:11.640
American tribes. Yeah, the Indian Civil Rights

00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.900
Act. Right. And then at the same time, it completely

00:01:14.900 --> 00:01:17.980
rewired how the federal government polices protests

00:01:17.980 --> 00:01:20.719
and riots. It's a massive package. It really

00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.180
is. OK, let's unpack this. Because to understand

00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:25.459
how we even got this law, we have to look at

00:01:25.459 --> 00:01:28.959
the historical reality of 1968. Right. So the

00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:32.379
Civil Rights Act of 1968 had already outlawed

00:01:32.379 --> 00:01:34.519
discrimination in public accommodations, right?

00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:37.400
Like restaurants and hotels. Yes. And then the

00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.340
Voting Rights Act of 1965 protected the ballot.

00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:44.459
But housing was still this massive, untouchable

00:01:44.459 --> 00:01:46.840
frontier. Untouchable is honestly the perfect

00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:49.739
word for it. Up to that point, a federal fair

00:01:49.739 --> 00:01:52.359
housing bill was literally the most filibustered

00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:54.500
piece of legislation in United States history.

00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.219
Wow. Most filibustered. Yeah. I mean, a previous

00:01:58.219 --> 00:02:00.780
attempt to pass open housing provisions back

00:02:00.780 --> 00:02:04.239
in 1966 had just collapsed completely. And what's

00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.079
interesting in the text is that the resistance

00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.500
wasn't just coming from southern senators who

00:02:08.500 --> 00:02:10.599
had traditionally opposed civil rights bill.

00:02:10.740 --> 00:02:13.000
Right. It was everywhere. Exactly. It was fiercely

00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:16.479
opposed by northern senators, too, and heavily,

00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:18.879
heavily lobbied against by the National Association

00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:22.020
of Real Estate Boards. Which brings up this really

00:02:22.020 --> 00:02:25.099
fascinating quote from Senator Walter Mondale

00:02:25.099 --> 00:02:28.219
in the source material. He was advocating for

00:02:28.219 --> 00:02:30.259
the bill, and he pointed out that the earlier

00:02:30.259 --> 00:02:32.879
civil rights laws were essentially about forcing

00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.699
the South to integrate its public spaces. But

00:02:35.699 --> 00:02:39.300
a housing bill, that brought the reality of integration

00:02:39.300 --> 00:02:43.099
to neighborhoods in Chicago or Boston or New

00:02:43.099 --> 00:02:46.120
York. As Mondale put it, this was civil rights

00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.300
getting personal. Getting personal. Yeah, because,

00:02:48.300 --> 00:02:50.430
you know, agreeing with Integration at a lunch

00:02:50.430 --> 00:02:53.210
counter, hundreds of miles away, is one kind

00:02:53.210 --> 00:02:55.449
of political stance. So it's easy. Right. But

00:02:55.449 --> 00:02:57.310
it is a completely different political beast

00:02:57.310 --> 00:02:59.710
when it involves the house next door to yours.

00:02:59.849 --> 00:03:02.330
Because for decades, American neighborhoods were

00:03:02.330 --> 00:03:05.389
segregated not just by custom, but by hard legal

00:03:05.389 --> 00:03:08.009
mechanisms. And the sources highlight neighborhood

00:03:08.009 --> 00:03:10.389
covenants as the most prominent ones. Yes. So

00:03:10.389 --> 00:03:12.430
for anyone listening who hasn't encountered that

00:03:12.430 --> 00:03:15.610
term, like on a property deed, how did a covenant

00:03:15.610 --> 00:03:18.409
actually function back then? So a covenant was

00:03:18.409 --> 00:03:21.389
a legally binding rule written directly into

00:03:21.389 --> 00:03:24.849
the deed of a house. It explicitly forbade the

00:03:24.849 --> 00:03:27.629
sale or rental of that property to anyone who

00:03:27.629 --> 00:03:29.849
wasn't white. And sometimes excluded specific

00:03:29.849 --> 00:03:32.990
religious groups too, right? Exactly. Yeah. And

00:03:32.990 --> 00:03:35.669
the crazy thing is, even if a white homeowner

00:03:35.669 --> 00:03:38.569
wanted to sell to a black family, the covenant

00:03:38.569 --> 00:03:40.330
meant their neighbors could literally take them

00:03:40.330 --> 00:03:42.759
to court to block the sale. Wow. So it wasn't

00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.659
just a suggestion. No, it was legally enforceable.

00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.460
Those covenants built a fortress around white

00:03:48.460 --> 00:03:51.159
neighborhoods and the political resistance to

00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.340
tearing those fortresses down created total gridlock

00:03:54.340 --> 00:03:57.539
in Congress. So what broke the gridlock? Because

00:03:57.539 --> 00:04:00.819
clearly the law passed. The sources highlight

00:04:00.819 --> 00:04:03.699
the Chicago open housing movement led by Martin

00:04:03.699 --> 00:04:06.080
Luther King Jr. Right. Where they marched into

00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:08.159
northern cities and faced horrific violence.

00:04:08.340 --> 00:04:10.740
Yeah. proving that the North was just as segregated

00:04:10.740 --> 00:04:14.199
as the South. And then you have the Kerner Commission

00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.439
in 1967. The Kerner Commission is a huge piece

00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.139
of this puzzle. They were tasked with studying

00:04:20.139 --> 00:04:22.519
the massive race riots that had swept the country

00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.579
that year. And their conclusion was incredibly

00:04:25.579 --> 00:04:27.939
blunt. What did they say? They said the country

00:04:27.939 --> 00:04:30.920
was moving toward two societies, one black, one

00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.639
white. Separate and unequal. Exactly. And their

00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.939
strongest recommendation to fix it was a comprehensive,

00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:41.459
enforceable federal open housing law. Because

00:04:41.459 --> 00:04:43.980
they realized that without the ability to physically

00:04:43.980 --> 00:04:46.459
move to areas with better jobs and better schools,

00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.319
all the previous civil rights gains, like regarding

00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.680
employment and voting, they're merely theoretical.

00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.000
Right. You can have the legal right to a job.

00:04:54.100 --> 00:04:56.060
But if you are legally barred from living in

00:04:56.060 --> 00:04:58.360
the city where that job exists, the right is

00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.779
essentially meaningless. Exactly. Yet, even with

00:05:01.779 --> 00:05:04.339
the Kerner Commission's dire warning, Congress

00:05:04.339 --> 00:05:06.699
still refused to pass the housing bill. It was

00:05:06.699 --> 00:05:09.620
still stuck. Still stuck. The final catalyst

00:05:09.620 --> 00:05:13.459
was, tragically, a national tragedy. On April

00:05:13.459 --> 00:05:17.800
4th, 1968, Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.620
And the immediate aftermath of that was just

00:05:20.620 --> 00:05:23.459
unprecedented civil unrest across the entire

00:05:23.459 --> 00:05:25.930
country. Yeah. nationwide. We aren't just talking

00:05:25.930 --> 00:05:28.910
about abstract political pressure here. The sources

00:05:28.910 --> 00:05:32.730
say that by April 5th, the very next day, President

00:05:32.730 --> 00:05:35.170
Lyndon B. Johnson wrote an urgent letter to the

00:05:35.170 --> 00:05:37.410
House of Representatives demanding they pass

00:05:37.410 --> 00:05:39.949
the housing bill immediately. Because the lawmakers

00:05:39.949 --> 00:05:41.470
sitting in the rules committee could literally

00:05:41.470 --> 00:05:44.089
see the smoke rising over Washington, D .C. from

00:05:44.089 --> 00:05:46.990
their windows. That is wild to picture. The National

00:05:46.990 --> 00:05:49.699
Guard was deploying in American cities. The source

00:05:49.699 --> 00:05:51.720
material specifically notes that Congress was

00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.240
jolted by the repeated civil disturbances virtually

00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.040
outside its door. So under that immediate physical

00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.319
threat, the bill was rushed through and signed

00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:02.459
into law on April 11. Just exactly a week after

00:06:02.459 --> 00:06:06.149
King's death. Wow. And the centerpiece of that

00:06:06.149 --> 00:06:08.930
hurried legislation is what we now call the Fair

00:06:08.930 --> 00:06:11.709
Housing Act. Right. Titles eight and nine acts

00:06:11.709 --> 00:06:14.329
of the act. So while Congress was forced by the

00:06:14.329 --> 00:06:17.029
unrest to address the geography of American cities,

00:06:17.629 --> 00:06:20.410
this law was designed to dismantle those invisible

00:06:20.410 --> 00:06:23.449
neighborhood borders we talked about. Yes. It's

00:06:23.449 --> 00:06:26.230
strictly prohibited discrimination in selling,

00:06:26.449 --> 00:06:30.160
renting or financing housing based on race. color,

00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:33.259
religion, or national origin. But the protections

00:06:33.259 --> 00:06:35.399
written in 68 were really just the baseline,

00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.019
right? Yeah, absolutely. The Fair Housing Act

00:06:38.019 --> 00:06:40.879
has functioned as a living document. It expanded

00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:44.980
as society evolved. So in 1974, lawmakers added

00:06:44.980 --> 00:06:47.839
protections against discrimination based on sex.

00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:50.480
OK. Then in 1988, they added protections for

00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.560
families with children, which also covered pregnant

00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:55.300
women. And crucially, they added protections

00:06:55.300 --> 00:06:57.459
for people with disabilities. And the disability

00:06:57.459 --> 00:06:59.560
protections really stand out in the source material

00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.620
because they aren't just about preventing a landlord

00:07:01.620 --> 00:07:03.879
from saying no. Right, it's more proactive. Yeah,

00:07:03.899 --> 00:07:06.120
they actually mandate reasonable accommodations.

00:07:06.339 --> 00:07:08.160
So how does that work in practice for a tenant?

00:07:08.459 --> 00:07:10.740
It means a housing provider has to change their

00:07:10.740 --> 00:07:14.259
standard rules. or allow physical modifications

00:07:14.259 --> 00:07:17.360
so a person with a disability can actually use

00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.560
the space. Well, like what kind of modifications?

00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.360
Well, for example, if a building has a strict

00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.139
no pets policy, they legally have to make an

00:07:25.139 --> 00:07:27.459
exception for a blind person with a guide dog.

00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.600
OK, that makes sense. Or if a tenant who uses

00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.220
a wheelchair needs grab bars installed in the

00:07:33.220 --> 00:07:35.920
bathroom, the landlord have to permit that physical

00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.079
modification. But, and the sources are clear

00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.500
on this, the landlord doesn't necessarily foot

00:07:41.500 --> 00:07:44.300
the bill for those physical changes. Yeah, that

00:07:44.300 --> 00:07:46.779
is the nuance there. The tenant generally has

00:07:46.779 --> 00:07:48.899
to pay for the installation of those grab bars.

00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:51.959
And technically, the landlord can require the

00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.019
tenant to pay to remove them and restore the

00:07:54.019 --> 00:07:56.319
bathroom to its original condition when the lease

00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.339
is up. Assuming the modification would interfere

00:07:58.339 --> 00:08:00.100
with the next tenant's use of the space, right?

00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.100
Exactly. Now, the sources also detail what the

00:08:03.100 --> 00:08:05.779
Fair Housing Act does not cover, because landlords

00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:08.329
are still perfectly legally allowed to discriminate

00:08:08.329 --> 00:08:10.790
against applicants provided they use objective

00:08:10.790 --> 00:08:13.610
business criteria. Right. You can still be denied.

00:08:14.350 --> 00:08:17.050
A landlord can legally deny you a lease if you

00:08:17.050 --> 00:08:19.029
have a history of missed payments on your credit

00:08:19.029 --> 00:08:22.430
report or if your income just doesn't meet their

00:08:22.430 --> 00:08:24.850
minimum threshold. What about government assistance?

00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.740
In many jurisdictions, they can also simply refuse

00:08:28.740 --> 00:08:32.120
to accept Section 8 housing vouchers, which is

00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:33.899
the federal government's program for assisting

00:08:33.899 --> 00:08:36.179
low -income families with rent. So they can just

00:08:36.179 --> 00:08:39.600
say no to that money? Yes. The law only requires

00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.940
that landlords apply those financial screening

00:08:41.940 --> 00:08:44.919
criteria consistently to every single applicant,

00:08:45.299 --> 00:08:48.539
regardless of their background. So the law essentially

00:08:48.539 --> 00:08:50.879
ensures a landlord can reject you for the contents

00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:53.659
of your wallet, but absolutely not for your identity?

00:08:54.019 --> 00:08:55.750
That's a great way to put it. But looking at

00:08:55.750 --> 00:08:58.289
the modern landscape, there is a glaring statistic

00:08:58.289 --> 00:09:00.210
in our sources that we have to talk about. The

00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:02.789
HUD numbers. Yeah. We have the Department of

00:09:02.789 --> 00:09:05.289
Housing and Urban Development, specifically their

00:09:05.289 --> 00:09:07.649
Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity,

00:09:08.009 --> 00:09:11.889
tasked with enforcing this law. Yet HUD estimates

00:09:11.889 --> 00:09:14.350
that two million cases of housing discrimination

00:09:14.350 --> 00:09:17.570
still happen every single year. And some advocacy

00:09:17.570 --> 00:09:19.570
groups say it's closer to four million. Which

00:09:19.570 --> 00:09:22.610
is staggering. If this monumental law has been

00:09:22.610 --> 00:09:25.289
on the book since 1968, why is that number still

00:09:25.289 --> 00:09:28.629
so high? Well, having a right codified on paper

00:09:28.629 --> 00:09:30.970
and actually enforcing that right in the real

00:09:30.970 --> 00:09:33.070
world are two very different battles. Clearly.

00:09:33.370 --> 00:09:35.110
I mean, the Office of Fair Housing and Equal

00:09:35.110 --> 00:09:37.909
Opportunity is massive. They have over 600 staff

00:09:37.909 --> 00:09:41.210
across 54 offices, and anyone can file a complaint

00:09:41.210 --> 00:09:44.519
for free. Right. But a 2010 Government Accountability

00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.100
Office report highlighted that enforcement is

00:09:47.100 --> 00:09:49.659
wildly inconsistent across local jurisdictions.

00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.639
But really the bigger issue is that the methods

00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.860
of discrimination evolved. It's no longer a landlord

00:09:55.860 --> 00:09:58.620
explicitly citing a racial covenant and shutting

00:09:58.620 --> 00:10:01.120
the door in your face. Precisely. It became much

00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.009
more sophisticated and Honestly, much harder

00:10:04.009 --> 00:10:07.070
to prove. Like how? Well, it might look like

00:10:07.070 --> 00:10:09.549
a real estate agent subtly steering a minority

00:10:09.549 --> 00:10:11.850
family away from viewing homes in a particular

00:10:11.850 --> 00:10:13.889
school district. Oh, wow. Just not even showing

00:10:13.889 --> 00:10:16.990
them the houses. Exactly. Or, in modern financing,

00:10:17.169 --> 00:10:20.370
it might involve an algorithm. Banks or zoning

00:10:20.370 --> 00:10:23.549
boards sometimes use complex data points that

00:10:23.549 --> 00:10:26.820
act as proxies for race. proxies. So they aren't

00:10:26.820 --> 00:10:28.919
explicitly asking for your race. Right. They

00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.700
effectively redline minority zip codes without

00:10:31.700 --> 00:10:34.779
ever explicitly factoring in the race of the

00:10:34.779 --> 00:10:37.019
applicant. And this just leaves a persistent

00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:40.700
massive gap between the intent of the 1968 law

00:10:40.700 --> 00:10:43.600
and the reality on the ground. So while the federal

00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:45.879
government was wrestling with how to guarantee

00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.220
housing rights for marginalized citizens within

00:10:48.220 --> 00:10:51.279
American cities, they were simultaneously facing

00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:54.139
a constitutional headache regarding a completely

00:10:54.139 --> 00:10:57.299
different kind of geography. Yes, the 1968 Act.

00:10:57.500 --> 00:11:00.000
also contains the Indian Civil Rights Act. Which

00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.320
is fascinating because this represents a completely

00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.820
different legal and philosophical puzzle. It

00:11:04.820 --> 00:11:06.620
really does. The federal government was dealing

00:11:06.620 --> 00:11:09.000
with integrating its own citizens, sure, but

00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.940
it also had to navigate its relationship with

00:11:10.940 --> 00:11:13.480
these separate sovereign nations of Native American

00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.440
tribes. Right. Because historically the U .S.

00:11:16.500 --> 00:11:19.299
Supreme Court had maintained that Native American

00:11:19.299 --> 00:11:21.960
tribes were not subject to the constitutional

00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.639
protections of the Bill of Rights in their internal

00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.879
affairs. Because they predate the United States

00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.059
Constitution? Yes. They were sovereign, independent

00:11:30.059 --> 00:11:33.860
entities. However, during the 1960s, Congress

00:11:33.860 --> 00:11:36.860
held a series of hearings, and they documented

00:11:36.860 --> 00:11:40.059
instances where tribal members were facing abuses

00:11:40.059 --> 00:11:42.200
from tribal officials. And those individuals

00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:45.940
had no constitutional recourse. None. The U .S.

00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.279
courts couldn't intervene. So the legislative

00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:50.980
solution was the Indian Civil Rights Act, which

00:11:50.980 --> 00:11:52.899
essentially applies the U .S. Bill of Rights

00:11:52.899 --> 00:11:55.600
to federally recognized tribes. It guarantees

00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:57.840
free speech, protection against unreasonable

00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.500
search and seizure, the right to a speedy trial.

00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.139
But, and this is key in the sources, Congress

00:12:03.139 --> 00:12:06.019
intentionally left out several core constitutional

00:12:06.019 --> 00:12:08.100
guarantees. They made very deliberate omissions,

00:12:08.139 --> 00:12:10.759
like they did not impose the separation of church

00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.419
and state on tribal governments. Oh, interesting.

00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.159
They didn't require a Republican form of government.

00:12:15.419 --> 00:12:18.320
They didn't guarantee a jury trial in civil cases.

00:12:19.220 --> 00:12:21.519
And crucially for the criminal justice system,

00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:23.860
they did not guarantee the right to appointed

00:12:23.860 --> 00:12:26.000
counsel for someone who couldn't afford a lawyer.

00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.639
So no public defenders mandated? Right. It's

00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.340
almost like, um, like installing a tailored software

00:12:32.340 --> 00:12:35.419
patch. Like Congress decided to install basic

00:12:35.419 --> 00:12:37.779
civil rights protections onto the tribal justice

00:12:37.779 --> 00:12:40.940
system, but they intentionally left out certain

00:12:40.940 --> 00:12:43.059
lines of code to make sure the tribe's native

00:12:43.059 --> 00:12:45.799
operating system could still run. That is an

00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:48.879
excellent way to conceptualize it. Congress recognized

00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.220
the distinct political and cultural status of

00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:54.000
the tribes. Right. They had to. Yeah. Because

00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:55.820
forcing total separation of church and state,

00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:57.899
for instance, would have fundamentally broken

00:12:57.899 --> 00:13:00.039
how many tribal governments culturally operated

00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.220
where spiritual and civic leadership were deeply

00:13:03.220 --> 00:13:05.419
intertwined. But that creates an inherent tension,

00:13:05.419 --> 00:13:07.919
right? Because how does a legal system reconcile

00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:10.879
the desire to protect an individual's civil rights

00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:13.340
with the fundamental right of a sovereign tribe

00:13:13.340 --> 00:13:16.559
to govern itself? It's incredibly difficult.

00:13:17.059 --> 00:13:19.740
And we can see that exact tension play out in

00:13:19.740 --> 00:13:24.080
a landmark 1978 Supreme Court case, Santa Clara

00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.799
Pueblo V. Martinez. Yes. The details of this

00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.179
case perfectly illustrate the collision of those

00:13:29.179 --> 00:13:33.220
two ideas. So a mother sued her tribe because

00:13:33.220 --> 00:13:35.740
her child was denied tribal membership. Right.

00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:38.080
And the reason for the denial was that she married

00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.120
a man outside the tribe. But the catch is...

00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.779
The tribe's rules stated that if a man from the

00:13:43.779 --> 00:13:46.159
tribe married an outsider, his children would

00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.360
automatically get membership. So she argued this

00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.759
was blatant sex discrimination. Exactly. And

00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.500
a clear violation of the newly passed Indian

00:13:53.500 --> 00:13:56.759
Civil Rights Act. And from a purely individual

00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.519
rights perspective, her argument is incredibly

00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:02.240
strong. It seems open and shut. It does. But

00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.299
the Supreme Court actually ruled against her.

00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.120
Wait, really? Yes. But they didn't rule on the

00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.039
fairness of the membership rule itself. Instead,

00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:11.220
they decided that tribal common law, sovereign

00:14:11.220 --> 00:14:13.600
immunity, prevented the suit entirely. OK, for

00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:15.139
those listening who might be unfamiliar with

00:14:15.139 --> 00:14:17.320
that term, what does sovereign immunity actually

00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:20.610
mean in this context? Sovereign immunity. is

00:14:20.610 --> 00:14:22.990
the legal doctrine that a sovereign nation cannot

00:14:22.990 --> 00:14:26.669
be sued without its consent. Oh, okay. So the

00:14:26.669 --> 00:14:28.809
Supreme Court determined that while Congress

00:14:28.809 --> 00:14:31.429
passed the Indian Civil Rights Act, they didn't

00:14:31.429 --> 00:14:34.269
explicitly strip away the tribe's sovereign immunity.

00:14:34.330 --> 00:14:38.409
I see. Therefore, a tribal member could not drag

00:14:38.409 --> 00:14:41.029
the tribal government into a federal court to

00:14:41.029 --> 00:14:43.669
dispute an internal governance issue like membership.

00:14:44.190 --> 00:14:46.350
So that effectively limits the reach of the Indian

00:14:46.350 --> 00:14:48.659
Civil Rights Act. Right. It ensures the federal

00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:50.799
government doesn't become the micromanager of

00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.460
tribal affairs. It massively strengthened tribal

00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:56.539
self -determination. But the mere existence of

00:14:56.539 --> 00:14:59.399
the act still forever altered tribal justice.

00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.870
Because they had to adapt to it. Exactly. It

00:15:01.870 --> 00:15:04.429
inadvertently forced tribal courts to mirror

00:15:04.429 --> 00:15:07.490
modern American legal procedures to demonstrate

00:15:07.490 --> 00:15:09.570
compliance with these new civil rights standards.

00:15:10.190 --> 00:15:12.570
Tribal courts adopted rules of evidence, pleading

00:15:12.570 --> 00:15:14.629
requirements, and formalized courtroom settings

00:15:14.629 --> 00:15:17.169
that were familiar to U .S. lawyers. So it legitimized

00:15:17.169 --> 00:15:19.129
them in the eyes of the federal system, but it

00:15:19.129 --> 00:15:21.750
fundamentally westernized how traditional tribal

00:15:21.750 --> 00:15:24.570
justice was administered. That's exactly the

00:15:24.570 --> 00:15:26.809
trade -off that happened. Wow. Okay, so we've

00:15:26.809 --> 00:15:29.049
covered housing integration and tribal sovereignty.

00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.960
But the 1968 act has one more major pivot we

00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:35.879
need to cover. Titles 1 and X. Right. Because

00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.039
the legislation transitions from the expansion

00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.879
of rights to strict limitations placed upon citizens.

00:15:42.460 --> 00:15:44.899
And we have to examine the profound irony here.

00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.620
Oh, it's definitely ironic. This was a bill pushed

00:15:47.620 --> 00:15:50.559
over the finish line by the massive civil unrest

00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:52.980
following Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination.

00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:56.830
Yet. Buried within the same document are strict

00:15:56.830 --> 00:15:59.769
mechanisms designed to severely punish that exact

00:15:59.769 --> 00:16:02.190
same unrest. Yeah, the legislation established

00:16:02.190 --> 00:16:04.909
federal prosecution for hate crimes, but it also

00:16:04.909 --> 00:16:07.059
created the Anti -Riot Act. Let's start with

00:16:07.059 --> 00:16:09.779
the hate crimes part. So the hate crime provisions

00:16:09.779 --> 00:16:12.299
made it a federal offense to use force, or the

00:16:12.299 --> 00:16:15.159
threat of force, to injure or intimidate minorities

00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.340
because they were engaging in protected activities.

00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.019
Like voting or attending public school. Right,

00:16:20.059 --> 00:16:22.720
or even traveling. The penalties range from fines

00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.279
to a year in prison, all the way up to life in

00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.399
prison, or the death penalty if a murder occurred.

00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.980
OK, so that's Title I, but then you have Title

00:16:29.980 --> 00:16:33.850
X, the Anti -Riot Act. which the sources mentioned

00:16:33.850 --> 00:16:37.730
was informally called the HRAP Brown Law, named

00:16:37.730 --> 00:16:40.029
after a prominent civil rights activist. Yes.

00:16:40.250 --> 00:16:42.509
And this section made it a federal felony to

00:16:42.509 --> 00:16:44.710
travel in interstate commerce with the intent

00:16:44.710 --> 00:16:47.370
to incite, organize, promote, or participate

00:16:47.370 --> 00:16:49.629
in a riot. And this is where it gets tricky,

00:16:50.169 --> 00:16:52.990
because interstate commerce in federal law doesn't

00:16:52.990 --> 00:16:55.409
just mean physically driving your car across

00:16:55.409 --> 00:16:57.789
a state border. What else does it mean? It includes

00:16:57.789 --> 00:17:00.230
using the mail, making a phone call or sending

00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:02.549
a telegram across state lines. Are you serious?

00:17:02.730 --> 00:17:04.609
So they essentially made it a federal crime to

00:17:04.609 --> 00:17:07.509
cross state lines to start a riot, which controversially

00:17:07.509 --> 00:17:09.990
meant that simply making a phone call to organize

00:17:09.990 --> 00:17:12.369
a protest that later turned violent could invite

00:17:12.369 --> 00:17:15.630
a federal felony charge. Yes. And its legacy

00:17:15.630 --> 00:17:18.869
is heavily debated because critics argue it functionally

00:17:18.869 --> 00:17:21.410
equates organized political protest with organized

00:17:21.410 --> 00:17:24.170
violence. I can see why. Historically, the federal

00:17:24.170 --> 00:17:26.269
government famously used it to prosecute the

00:17:26.269 --> 00:17:28.990
Chicago seven after the massive protests at the

00:17:28.990 --> 00:17:32.230
1968 Democratic National Convention. And it hasn't

00:17:32.230 --> 00:17:34.450
just sat on the shelf since the 60s either. No,

00:17:34.609 --> 00:17:36.710
not at all. The sources note it was used against

00:17:36.710 --> 00:17:38.849
organizers of the White Nationalists Unite the

00:17:38.849 --> 00:17:41.450
Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017, though

00:17:41.450 --> 00:17:43.710
the courts have stepped in recently. Right, there

00:17:43.710 --> 00:17:45.750
were some significant rulings. Yeah, in 2020

00:17:45.750 --> 00:17:48.769
and 2021, federal serpent courts actually struck

00:17:48.769 --> 00:17:51.150
down the portions of the law that prohibited

00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:54.059
simply urging a riot. because of the First Amendment.

00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.039
Exactly. The courts ruled that criminalizing

00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.839
the mere urging of an event violated freedom

00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.319
of speech protections. However, they left the

00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.599
bans on actually inciting or participating in

00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:08.880
violence fully intact. Which is a crucial distinction.

00:18:09.130 --> 00:18:12.490
It is. But look at the glaring legislative paradox

00:18:12.490 --> 00:18:15.769
here. It's massive. Congress passes a monumental

00:18:15.769 --> 00:18:19.390
civil rights bill expanding housing rights, literally

00:18:19.390 --> 00:18:22.490
pressured by nationwide riots. And in the exact

00:18:22.490 --> 00:18:26.009
same breath, they codify a law to strictly criminalize

00:18:26.009 --> 00:18:29.029
the crossing of state lines to incite riot. Is

00:18:29.029 --> 00:18:31.589
this just Congress giving with one hand and taking

00:18:31.589 --> 00:18:33.769
with the other? Well, this duality reveals how

00:18:33.769 --> 00:18:37.079
landmark legislation is actually forged. in the

00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.380
real world. What do you mean? To get a massive

00:18:39.380 --> 00:18:42.279
expansion of progressive civil rights, like the

00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.200
Fair Housing Act, passed in a deeply divided

00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.599
gridlocked Congress, proponents had to engage

00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:51.539
in immense political compromise. So the Anti

00:18:51.539 --> 00:18:53.940
-Riot Act was the sweetener. It was the concession.

00:18:54.099 --> 00:18:57.240
It was a calculated balance, blending civil rights

00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.519
with strict law and order mandates to secure

00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.039
enough moderate and conservative votes to pass

00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.809
the overall package. It was a legislative trade

00:19:05.809 --> 00:19:08.789
-off. Lawmakers essentially said, we will concede

00:19:08.789 --> 00:19:11.750
to federal open housing, but we demand federal

00:19:11.750 --> 00:19:14.190
power to crush the riots currently happening

00:19:14.190 --> 00:19:17.170
outside our windows. It is the stark reality

00:19:17.170 --> 00:19:20.069
of the political tension in America in 1968,

00:19:20.509 --> 00:19:22.809
just captured in a single document. It really

00:19:22.809 --> 00:19:24.829
is staggering when you step back and look at

00:19:24.829 --> 00:19:27.609
the sheer scope of this single piece of legislation.

00:19:27.630 --> 00:19:30.589
It's unparalleled. I mean, in one swoop, Congress

00:19:30.589 --> 00:19:32.970
tackled neighborhood segregation, the sovereignty

00:19:32.970 --> 00:19:35.349
of Native American tribes, federal hate crimes,

00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:38.410
and interstate riots. It fundamentally rewired

00:19:38.410 --> 00:19:41.309
the legal framework of the country. So the next

00:19:41.309 --> 00:19:43.970
time you sign a lease for an apartment or read

00:19:43.970 --> 00:19:46.150
a news story about a First Amendment court case

00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:49.230
regarding a protest or, you know, hear a debate

00:19:49.230 --> 00:19:52.269
about tribal jurisdiction, you are living inside

00:19:52.269 --> 00:19:55.730
the echo of this exact document. Absolutely.

00:19:55.930 --> 00:19:58.809
It is the invisible architecture of the society

00:19:58.809 --> 00:20:01.210
you navigate every day. You know, if there is

00:20:01.210 --> 00:20:03.630
one final historical thread to leave you with,

00:20:04.029 --> 00:20:06.329
it's actually found deep in the background context

00:20:06.329 --> 00:20:08.890
of this legislation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We spent

00:20:08.890 --> 00:20:11.130
this whole time discussing the monumental shifts

00:20:11.130 --> 00:20:15.470
of 1968. But the Civil Rights Act of 1866, passed

00:20:15.470 --> 00:20:17.769
immediately after the Civil War, technically

00:20:17.769 --> 00:20:20.029
banned housing discrimination a full century

00:20:20.029 --> 00:20:22.349
earlier. Wait, a hundred years earlier? Yes.

00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:25.109
It explicitly declared that all citizens had

00:20:25.109 --> 00:20:28.059
the same right to inherit purchase, lease, sell,

00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.180
and hold property. So housing discrimination

00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:33.339
was technically illegal since 1866? On paper,

00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.720
yes. But the 1866 law had zero federal enforcement

00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:39.940
provisions. There was no Department of Housing

00:20:39.940 --> 00:20:42.480
and Urban Development. There was no agency tasked

00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.880
with investigating complaints. So nobody to actually

00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:46.700
make sure the law was being followed. Right.

00:20:47.240 --> 00:20:49.539
The penalty was a thousand dollar fine or a year

00:20:49.539 --> 00:20:52.220
in jail, but without an enforcement mechanism.

00:20:52.410 --> 00:20:55.349
It was an empty promise. It was practically toothless.

00:20:55.390 --> 00:20:59.329
Wow. It took exactly 102 years, decades of tireless

00:20:59.329 --> 00:21:01.769
activism, the assassination of a generational

00:21:01.769 --> 00:21:05.390
leader, and the riots of 1968 to finally create

00:21:05.390 --> 00:21:07.369
the enforcement mechanisms we see in the Fair

00:21:07.369 --> 00:21:10.910
Housing Act. Huh. A law on the books for an entire

00:21:10.910 --> 00:21:13.309
century just completely ignored until society

00:21:13.309 --> 00:21:15.569
physically forced the issue. Which leaves you

00:21:15.569 --> 00:21:18.240
to wonder. When you look at the laws and the

00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:20.720
rights we supposedly have codified today, how

00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:23.759
many of them are just like the 1866 Act? Right.

00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.099
Technically legal, technically guaranteed, but

00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:28.319
practically toothless, just waiting for their

00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:31.180
own 1968 moment to finally be enforced. Is the

00:21:31.180 --> 00:21:33.359
invisible line in the sand really gone or has

00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.839
it just been moved? That is a lot to think about.

00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.000
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Keep

00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:39.619
questioning the history behind the headlines

00:21:39.619 --> 00:21:41.019
and we will see you next time.
