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Usually when we talk about history, there's this

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expectation of precision. Right, like it's engineering

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or something. Exactly. Like a law is passed,

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a war is won, and the historical timeline just

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points and says, you know, there it is, cause

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and effect. Yeah, but history is rarely that

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clean. It really isn't. Because what happens

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when a government decides to fundamentally fix

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society, and in the process, they... Well, they

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accidentally create the mafia, poison their own

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citizens, and ironically, invent the modern nightclub.

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I mean, you end up with a landscape that is just

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incredibly murky. The straight lines of history

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just completely shatter. And that is exactly

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what we are unpacking today. Welcome to the Deep

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Dive. We are so glad to have you with us today

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sitting right here as the third person in the

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room. Absolutely. Because today we're looking

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at a comprehensive breakdown of prohibition in

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the United States. And our mission is to take

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you past that common, really simplistic narrative.

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Right, the cartoon version. Yeah, forget the

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flappers and gangsters and bathtub gin. We are

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going to explore the immensely complex web of

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political maneuvering, the baffling legal loopholes

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and the honestly shocking unintended consequences

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of what they call the Noble Experiment. It's

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a very cinematic era, which makes it incredibly

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easy to misunderstand. Totally. People tend to

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look at the 1920s as this standalone decade of

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madness. But to really understand the sheer scale

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of this policy failure, you have to look at the

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roots. Right. The sources make it very clear

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that this wasn't just a bunch of puritanical

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buzzkills deciding to ruin everyone's fun on

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a whim. The temperance movement was a fragile,

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complex alliance built on some very real societal

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concerns. OK, let's unpack. Because before you

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can ban something as ubiquitous as alcohol, things

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had to be pretty dire, right? What was the actual

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problem they were trying to solve? They were

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targeting a very specific institution, and that

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was the American saloon. In the late 19th and

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early 20th centuries, the neighborhood saloon

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wasn't just a place to grab a drink after work.

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It was the center of a highly predatory business

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model. How so? Well... The brewing industry operated

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on what was essentially a tide house system.

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Meaning the breweries actually owned the bars,

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like outright. They owned the leases, the fixtures,

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literally everything. A massive brewery would

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set up a saloon keeper, but contractually obligate

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him to exclusively sell their beer. Wow. And

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because there were so many saloons competing

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on the exact same block, the saloon keeper was

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really squeezed for profit. To make rent, he

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had to push massive, dangerous volumes of alcohol

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onto his patrons. But how do you force people

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to drink more than they actually want to? You

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offer them a free lunch. Oh, I've heard of this.

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Yeah, saloons became famous for these massive

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spreads of free food. But the catch was that

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the meats and juices were incredibly heavily

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salted. Of course. It was a biological trap designed

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to induce relentless thirst. Working class men

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would go in for a cheap meal and end up, you

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know, spending their entire week's wages on beer

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just to wash it down. That's incredibly manipulative.

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It was. Families were left starving, which led

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directly to spikes in domestic violence and extreme

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poverty. So the pre -prohibition saloon was almost

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like a vertically integrated tech monopoly today.

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Exactly. They controlled the product, the venue,

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and the user's behavior. It wasn't just a moral

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crusade against having a beer. It was an attempt

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to break a predatory corporate machine. That

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is a highly accurate way to look at it. And it

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went beyond just economics, too. It was deeply

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political. Right. These saloons were heavily

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frequented by immigrant populations in growing

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urban centers, and they became the literal headquarters

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for political corruption. Oh, like the local

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ward bosses? Yes. Politicians would hang out

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in the saloons, offering job favors, legal help,

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or even just baskets of food. all in exchange

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for guaranteed immigrant votes. Wow. The saloon

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was the engine of the corrupt political machine.

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But if the saloon is the engine of a political

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machine, how do you even dismantle it? You'd

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need a political machine of your own just to

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fight back. Which is exactly what the Prohibitionists

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built. They found their architect in a man named

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Wayne Wheeler who ran the Anti -Saloon League.

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Right. I saw his name in the text. Wheeler is

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a fascinating, almost ruthless historical figure.

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When he was young, he was actually injured on

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a farm by a drunk worker, which gave him this

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deep rooted lifelong hatred for alcohol. So it

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was personal for him. Very personal. But Wheeler

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didn't just preach morality on street corners.

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He realized that to win. He needed to control

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the political narrative through raw pressure.

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He pioneered a tactic that literally became known

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as wheelerism. What did wheelerism actually look

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like in practice? I mean, how did he pull this

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off before mass? broadcast media and the Internet.

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He weaponized the telegraph and the printing

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press to manufacture a sense of overwhelming

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unified public consensus. Wheeler didn't need

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to convince every single American to support

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prohibition. He just needed to convince lawmakers

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that his supporters were the only ones who mattered.

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So it was an illusion of a majority. Exactly.

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If a politician spoke out against the temperance

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movement, Wheeler would orchestrate thousands

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of telegrams to flood that politician's desk

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the very next day. That is brilliant. He coordinated

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with local churches to mobilize massive voting

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blocks on a dime. He made politicians believe

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that if they didn't support a dry America, their

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careers would end tomorrow. He became an absolute

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political powerhouse, and people started calling

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him the dry boss. OK, so you have anti -corruption

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reformers partnering with a brilliant, ruthless

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political strategist. Yeah. But the sources point

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out there was a third pillar to this alliance,

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right? Like an economic argument that brought

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in the business elite. Oh, yeah. The economists

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were a major piece of the puzzle. Prominent figures

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like Yale economics professor Irving Fisher were

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incredibly influential dry advocates. Fisher

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popularized this concept. of Blue Monday. Let

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me guess. Workers drinking all weekend and showing

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up completely useless on Monday. Completely useless.

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The argument was that factory workers would spend

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the weekend binge drinking in those predatory

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saloons and Monday would be a day of massive

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industrial inefficiency. Right. Machines sitting

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idle, accidents on the factory floor, sluggish

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production due to severe hangovers. And Fisher

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actually put a dollar amount on it. It was a

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number. He claimed that an acting prohibition

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would save the United States $6 billion annually

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in lost productivity. $6 billion in the early

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1900s. That is a staggering economic incentive

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for factory owners to get on board. Huge. So

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you have the moral crusaders worried about families,

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the reformers fighting political corruption,

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and the industrialists chasing efficiency. That

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is a massive, incredibly diverse coalition. It

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was. But it still wasn't quite enough to push

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it over the edge into a constitutional amendment.

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Yeah, the final catalyst came from a completely

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different direction, and that was World War I.

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When the U .S. entered the war against Germany

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in 1917, the political landscape shifted overnight.

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First, a major force against prohibition, the

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German Americans who ran almost all of the massive

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breweries, were suddenly viewed with intense

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suspicion and politically sidelined. So the brewing

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industry essentially lost its lobbying power

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just because of their heritage. Precisely. And

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second, the movement brilliantly reframed the

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issue of alcohol production. The war effort required

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massive amounts of grain to feed soldiers, right?

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Sure. The Anti -Saloon League argued that taking

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precious grain and fermenting it into beer wasn't

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just wasteful, it was borderline treasonous.

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Wow. So prohibiting the production of alcohol

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became a patriotic duty to conserve resources

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for the troops. It really is a fragile alliance

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of totally different interests. Yeah. Morality,

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corporate efficiency, anti -German sentiment,

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and wartime conservation. But they actually pulled

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it off. They did. In 1919, the 18th Amendment

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passes. And logically, you know, you would think,

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boom, alcohol is completely illegal across the

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board. You'd think so. But the text of the law

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itself, the enabling legislation called the Volstead

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Act, wasn't a solid wall at all. Here's where

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it gets really interesting. It was more like

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a sieve designed to catch the poor while letting

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anyone with a bank account slip right through.

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The wording of the law is one of the most glaring

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hypocrisies in American legislative history.

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The 18th Amendment prohibited the manufacture,

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sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors.

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It says nothing about possession or consumption.

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Not a single word. It was not a federal crime

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to drink alcohol, nor was it a crime to keep

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it in your home, provided you had legally acquired

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it before the law went into effect in January

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1920. Which means if you had the fiscal space

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and the capital, You just bought a lifetime supply

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before the deadline. Exactly. Wealthy families

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emptied out wholesale warehouses. Private clubs

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moved their inventories into the basements of

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the richest members. It even reached the absolute

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highest levels of government. Like the president.

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Yes. President Woodrow Wilson legally moved his

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own massive private supply of alcohol to his

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residence after his term ended. And his successor,

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Warren G. Harding, moved a huge stash of liquor

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right into the White House. You're kidding. Nope.

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He continued to serve it to his guests while

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his own Justice Department was supposed to be

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enforcing the ban. That is wild. Historian Elizabeth

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Cohen points this out brilliantly in The Sources.

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She says this was a law that fundamentally targeted

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the working class poor. If a rich family had

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a sprawling cellar full of imported wine, they

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were law -abiding citizens. Right. If a poor

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family in a tenement apartment fermented a single

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bottle of homebrew, they were criminals subject

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to federal raids. Wait, so hoarding was the loophole

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for the elite. Yeah. But what if you were moderately

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wealthy and I don't know, ran out of your stash.

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I was reading about the medical exemptions, and

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my mind is still blown. How did doctors get away

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with prescribing alcohol during a federal ban?

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You'd think the government would have outlawed

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medicinal use too, but the medical lobby was

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incredibly powerful. Congress actually held formal

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hearings on the medicinal value of alcohol. And

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the doctors won. They successfully fought to

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retain the right to prescribe medicinal liquors

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for ailments ranging from anxiety to the flu.

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And the scale of this was just absurd. I mean,

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the sor - says that after only six months of

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prohibition, over 15 ,000 doctors and 57 ,000

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pharmacists had applied for licenses to prescribe

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or sell alcohol. It was massive. They estimate

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that throughout the 1920s physicians wrote roughly

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11 million prescriptions a year. It became an

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entire shadow economy. From 1921 to 1930, doctors

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earned an estimated $40 million just for writing

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whiskey prescriptions. Wow. The going rate was

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about $3 for the doctor's visit and another $3

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or $4 to the pharmacist to fill the prescription.

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Which was a lot of money back then. Definitely.

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And bootleggers caught on quickly. They would

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just buy massive stacks of signed prescription

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forms from crooked doctors to run widespread

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distribution scams. It was such an open, lucrative

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secret. that it transformed the retail landscape.

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Didn't Walgreens get huge during this time? Yes.

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Charles R. Walgreen, the founder of the Walgreens

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pharmacy chain, expanded his business from 20

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stores to a staggering 525 stores during the

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1920s. That is exponential growth. A massive

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driver of that unprecedented expansion was the

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legal sale of medicinal alcohol. Take two shots

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of whiskey and call me in the morning, and suddenly

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you have a national retail empire. Okay, I understand

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the medical loophole. That's just a doctor signing

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a pad. But how on earth did the agricultural

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sector get away with selling actual fermentable

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grapes? Tell me about this. wine brick situation.

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This is one of the funniest parts. The Volstead

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Act contained a provision intended to allow farmers

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to naturally preserve fruits. It permitted the

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home production of non -intoxicating cider and

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fruit juices. Okay, I see where this is going.

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Enterprising grape farmers in California read

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the fine print and realized what they could do.

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They increased their vineyard acreage by roughly

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700 percent. 700 percent. Yeah, and they started

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producing these semi -solid dehydrated blocks

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of grape concentrate known as wine bricks. And

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they sold them. with what has to be the most

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hilarious warning label in commercial history.

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It was pure, unfiltered, malicious compliance.

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The packaging included a highly detailed warning

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label that essentially functioned as a step -by

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-step recipe. Like reverse psychology. Exactly.

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It would read something to the effect of Warning,

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after dissolving this brick in a gallon of water,

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do not place the liquid in a jug and store it

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in a dark cupboard for exactly 20 days, because

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then it will turn into illegal wine. Whatever

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you do, don't follow these precise fermentation

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instructions. It's absurd. But you know, it also

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highlights the central tragedy of this era. You

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have wealthy politicians drinking in the White

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House, upper middle class people buying doctor's

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notes and suburbanites making wine from mail

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order bricks. Right. They all had a safety valve.

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But for the masses, the everyday working people

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access was brutally restricted. And when you

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have massive demand among millions of people

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and the only legal avenues are priced out of

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their reach, where do they turn? They turn into

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the criminal underground. And this is where the

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narrative shifts from quirky regulatory loopholes

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into a very dark, very lethal reality. Yeah,

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the black market. Because the federal government

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was entirely unequipped to police a shadow economy

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of this magnitude. To enforce prohibition across

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the entire continental United States, the federal

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government initially assigned a total of 1 ,520

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prohibition agents. 120 agents. For a nation

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of over 100 million people, that's a statistical

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rounding error. It's mathematically impossible,

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especially when you factor in the sheer geography

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of the American borders. Take the Detroit River,

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for example, which forms a watery border with

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Canada. It was a smuggler's paradise. Right,

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because alcohol was still legal over there. Exactly.

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Distilleries legally operating in Canada, Mexico,

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and the Caribbean ramped up production because

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it was incredibly easy to just load up a speedboat

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in the middle of the night and run the alcohol

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right over the border. Even with all those speedboats,

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smuggling wasn't enough to meet the sheer volume

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of American demand, right? Bootleggers needed

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a massive domestic supply, and they found it

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in the industrial sector. They did, and this

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was the turning point that cost thousands of

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lives. Bootleggers realized they could bypass

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the long, complicated fermentation and distillation

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process entirely by stealing industrial alcohol.

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Like cleaning supplies. Basically, we're talking

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about industrial ethyl alcohol used in factories

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to manufacture ink, cleaning chemicals, cosmetics,

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and fuels. It was being produced in massive quantities

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stateside, and criminal syndicates found it relatively

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easy to steal, hijack, or buy off the books.

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But humans can't just drink printer ink solvent.

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I mean, how do they get it to the speakeasies?

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Well, the federal government had long required

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manufacturers to denature industrial alcohol,

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meaning they legally had to add foul -tasting

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chemicals to it to ensure it couldn't be consumed

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as a beverage. Makes sense. But the bootleggers

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just hired their own rogue chemists. These chemists

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developed processes to wash or redistill the

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industrial alcohol, stripping out the bitter

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additives, adding some artificial flavoring and

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food coloring, and selling it as gin or whiskey.

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Wow. So when the government realized the bootleggers

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chemists were successfully cleaning the industrial

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alcohol, what did they do? Did they just increase

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security at the factories? No, they escalated

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the chemistry war. Oh, no. The Treasury Department,

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deeply frustrated by their inability to stop

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the bootleggers, mandated the addition of deadly

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lethal poisons into the industrial alcohol supply.

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Wait, lethal? Yes. They required manufacturers

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to add chemicals like methyl alcohol, which is

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wood alcohol, which is catastrophically toxic.

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At the time, there was no reliable, cost -effective

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way for the bootleggers' chemists to completely

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remove it from the stolen supply. Wait a minute.

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The government intentionally mandated putting

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lethal poison into a liquid supply that they

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absolutely knew was being diverted to human consumption.

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Yes. They used the toxicity as a deterrent, assuming

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people would simply stop drinking. But they didn't.

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They didn't. The results were devastating. A

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very small amount of undiluted methyl alcohol

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can cause blindness, paralysis, and death. By

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the end of Prohibition, historians estimate that

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as many as 10 ,000 Americans died from drinking

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poisoned denature alcohol. That is horrific.

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In 1926, in New York City alone, 585 people died

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from this. I mean, what does this all mean? It's

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as if the government today tried to stop people

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from speeding on the highway by secretly rigging

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their car engines to explode. That's a very apt

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comparison. It is a massive, horrifying ethical

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line to cross. You are essentially enacting the

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death penalty on citizens for a misdemeanor drinking

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offense. The New York City medical examiner at

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the time, a man named Charles Norris, was absolutely

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horrified by the influx of bodies arriving at

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his morgue. He publicly accused the U .S. government

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of being an accessory to murder. His quote from

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the source material is chilling. He said, It

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completely shatters the idea of a noble experiment.

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I mean, you have bodies piling up in the morgue.

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from government -mandated poison. You have bootleggers

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adding tar, tree oil, and even dead rats to moonshine

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just to give it color. Yeah, it was grim. You

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have organized crime exploding into heavily armed

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syndicates like Al Capone's outfit in Chicago,

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practically fighting wars in the streets, and

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the government is burning tens of millions of

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dollars a year, failing to enforce it. The system

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is fundamentally broken. Right. What finally

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forced them to abandon it? A total economic collapse.

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The Great Depression struck in 1929, and it completely

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altered the political math. How so? Well, before

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Prohibition went into effect, approximately 14

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% of federal, state, and local tax revenues came

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directly from alcohol commerce. 14 %? Yeah, 14

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% of the nation's budget vanished overnight.

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When the Depression hit, the government was starving

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for capital. The opposition movement, the Wets,

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seized the narrative. They argued that we're

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in an unprecedented economic crisis. crisis.

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We desperately need the tax revenue that is currently

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lining the pockets of violent criminal syndicates,

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and we need the jobs that legal breweries would

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provide. The economic reality of the Depression

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just crushed whatever was left of the moral argument.

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Completely. And once the tide turned, it moved

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incredibly fast. In March 1933, President Franklin

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D. Roosevelt signed the Cullen -Harrison Act,

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legalizing low alcohol beer and wine. He famously

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remarked upon signing it, I think this would

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be a good time for a beer. Classic FDR. And then

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by December of that same year, the 21st Amendment

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was ratified, completely repealing the 18th.

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Which remains the only time in American history

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that a constitutional amendment has been passed

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for the sole purpose of repealing another constitutional

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amendment. It's an incredible reversal. But as

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we look at the complete picture of these 13 years,

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we can't just write it off as 100 % failure,

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can we? The sources point to a truly bizarre

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paradox when you look closely at the data. It

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is a profound paradox. If you isolate the specific

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public health metrics regarding severe alcohol

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abuse, prohibition was actually a surprising

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success. Wait, really? Yeah. Studies, including

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retrospective analyses from the National Institute

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on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, show that death

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rates from cirrhosis of the liver plummeted.

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They dropped by nearly two -thirds during the

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Prohibition years. A two -thirds drop in liver

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disease. That is an undeniable public health

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victory. And remember Irving Fisher's Blue Monday

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argument about factory efficiency? Right, the

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six billion dollars. The data actually backed

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him up. During the era, rates of factory absenteeism

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decreased from 10 percent to roughly 3 percent.

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Companies like Ford documented massive drops

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in Monday no shows. That's fascinating. Because

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alcohol was suddenly expensive, dangerous and

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hard to get, the casual drinker largely stopped

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drinking. So for the individuals who truly struggled

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with severe alcoholism and the families suffering

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from the domestic violence that the temperance

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movement originally targeted, the reduced supply

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did have a tangible life saving impact. So it

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was an abject failure of criminal justice and

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civil liberties, but a bizarre measurable success

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for targeted public health. Exactly. And the

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legacy doesn't stop at health statistics. It

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fundamentally rewired American social culture,

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specifically around gender in music. Paint a

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picture for me of the transition from the old

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saloon to the speakeasy. It's a total paradigm

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shift in public life. The pre -prohibition saloon

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was, by design, an overwhelmingly male -only

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establishment. It was rough, filled with sawdust

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and spittoons. And if a respectable woman drank

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publicly in a saloon, she was viewed with deep,

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lasting social stigma. Right. But when the legal

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saloons were boarded up and the illegal speakeasies

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took over, the physical spaces changed. Speakeasies

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had to operate in secret. They were smaller,

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often hidden in basements or behind storefronts.

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So they needed a different business model. They

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did. To cover the exorbitant costs of bribes

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and smuggled liquor, they needed to attract a

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wealthier clientele. They couldn't rely on selling

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high volumes of cheap beer to factory workers

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anymore. They needed people willing to pay top

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dollar for cocktails. Exactly. And to attract

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that wealthier crowd, speakeasies became glamorous.

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They brought in high end decor. They required

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a softer, more refined atmosphere. And crucially,

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they welcomed women. Oh, wow. Public drinking

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lost its rough macho connotation. It became fashionable

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and daring for men and women to socialize and

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drink together in these semi -public environments.

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So by pushing alcohol underground, the government

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accidentally birthed the modern mixed gender

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night They absolutely did, and because these

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speakeasies needed to entertain this new, sophisticated

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mixed -gender crowd, it served as a massive catalyst

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for the spread of jazz. That makes total sense.

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Jazz was already thriving in New Orleans, but

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the explosive demand for speakeasy entertainment

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during Prohibition drew musicians north to cities

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like Chicago and New York. Right, looking for

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gigs. And because the speakeasies were already

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operating illegally, they were far more willing

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to ignore segregation laws. They became melting

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pots, mostly black jazz musicians with mostly

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white affluent audiences, pushing racial integration

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forward in social spaces during an otherwise

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deeply segregated era. It is just staggering

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to look at the massive web of cause and effect

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over this 13 -year period. I mean, you pass a

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law to stop men from drinking away their paychecks.

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The result. You get a poisoned industrial alcohol

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supply, the rise of the mafia, a constitutional

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crisis, but also a massive drop in liver disease,

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the birth of the modern nightclub, and the nationalization

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of jazz music. Yeah, it's wild. How do we synthesize

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all of this? Why does this specific piece of

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history matter to you, the listener sitting here

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today? Prohibition is the ultimate masterclass

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in the unintended consequences of sweeping public

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policy. Absolutely. It demonstrates that when

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a government tries to forcibly legislate morality

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or dramatically alter human behavior through

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restriction, it rarely achieves a clean result.

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Right. You might solve the initial problem, but

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the pressure you apply to society will inevitably

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blow out the sides of the container, creating

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entirely new, unpredictable structures. It proves

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that in policy, a straight line between intent

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and outcome almost never exists. It brings us

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right back to that historical expectation of

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precision we talked about at the beginning. It's

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never just a clean break. It's a spider web of

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fractures that reshape the entire bone. Well

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said. And it leaves me with this lingering question

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for you to ponder as you go about your day. If

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a failed deeply flawed law from the 1920s accidentally

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created the modern mixed gender nightlife scene

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and accelerated the spread of jazz, What restrictive

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laws or sweeping policies happening right now

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might be secretly architecting the cultural norms

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of our next century? It's a fascinating thought.

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We are almost certainly building something completely

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by accident right now. We'll leave you to think

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on that. Thanks for joining us on this Deep Dive.
