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I mean, imagine looking out your window during

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basically the absolute worst starvation crisis

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in American history and you're watching the federal

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government pay farmers to just slaughter six

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million pigs and let the meat literally rot in

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the sun. Yeah, it sounds completely absurd. Right.

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Or watching them actively plow under 10 million

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acres of perfectly good growing cotton while

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people are walking around in actual rags. I mean,

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it sounds like absolute madness, like a cartoon

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villain's plot or something. It really does.

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But in 1933, it was a desperate calculated mathematical

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equation, right, designed to basically save the

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United States from total collapse. So welcome

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to our deep dive. Today we are looking at a massive

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encyclopedic breakdown of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's

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New Deal. Yes, specifically spanning from 1933

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to 1938. Exactly. And our mission for this deep

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dive is to really cut through the heavy historical

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jargon. We want to understand exactly how these

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policies function under the hood, you know, how

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they permanently altered the very DNA of the

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American government. And we're going to explore

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that fiercely debated question of whether they

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actually worked at all. And, you know, to really

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understand the mechanics of what the government

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was trying to do, we have to grasp the sheer

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paralyzing terror of the moment. Right. Because

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before any physical rebuilding of the country's

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infrastructure could even be discussed. I mean,

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the government had to conquer a nationwide psychological

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panic. It was an atmosphere of complete and utter

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dread. Yeah. I want you, the listener, to really

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put yourself in that headspace right now. Imagine

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waking up in early March 1933. You look at the

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newspaper. A quarter of the entire American workforce

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is completely unemployed. Which is just staggering.

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It is. Manufacturing output has plummeted by

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a third. And worst of all, 40 % of all banks,

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we're talking over 9 ,000 individual banks across

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the country. across the country have just failed.

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Just completely vanished. Vanished. There is

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no unemployment insurance to fall back on. There

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is no social security and your life savings like

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the money you work decades for. It might literally

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be trapped behind the locked glass doors of an

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insolvent bank and you have no legal recourse

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to get it back. It is the absolute definition

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of a systemic heart attack. And the psychology

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driving that banking collapse is It's a self

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-fulfilling prophecy really how so well when

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people simply heard a rumor that their local

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bank might be in trouble They rushed to withdraw

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their funds, but you know banks don't keep everyone's

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money in a single vault Right, they lent it out.

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Exactly, they lent it out. So when everyone demands

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their cash at the exact same moment, that bank

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run actually causes the insolvency that the public

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was terrified of in the first place. OK, let's

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unpack this because we need to look at the mechanics

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of the first hundred days of the Roosevelt administration,

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which was essentially a massive triage operation.

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That's a great way to put it. Yeah, if the US

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economy is a patient bleeding out in an emergency

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room, you can't start prescribing a long -term

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diet and exercise plan. You have to slap a tourniquet

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on the wound. You have to stop the bleeding.

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And the speed of that tourniquet being applied

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was completely unprecedented in American history.

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Roosevelt takes office, and within 48 hours,

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he deters a bank holiday. Right. He essentially

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suspends all banking operations nationwide. Every

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single bank is ordered closed. Wow. And then

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he gets on the radio for his very first fireside

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chat and speaks directly to the American people.

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He tells them, hey, these banks will not be allowed

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to reopen their doors until federal reviewers

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have audited them and certified them as financially

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sound. And the crazy part is it actually works.

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Within days, three quarters of the banks in the

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Federal Reserve System are allowed to reopen.

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And instead of people rushing to pull their money

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out, billions of dollars in hoarded cash and

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gold flow back into the vaults. Because the trust

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was back. Exactly. But the administration didn't

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just unlock the doors and hope for the best,

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right? They fundamentally changed the structural

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rules of the game to ensure that trust was permanent.

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They created the FDIC, the Federal Deposit Insurance

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Corporation. Right, which insured individual

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bank deposits up to $2 ,500 at the time. Yeah.

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And they also passed the Glass -Steagall Act.

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Now, what's fascinating here is the mechanism

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behind Glass -Steagall. It wasn't just a regulatory

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slap on the wrist. It built a massive legal firewall

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between commercial banking and investment banking.

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Break that down for us. What does that firewall

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actually do in practice? Well, before Glass -Steagall,

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if you deposited your weekly paycheck into your

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local checking account, that bank could take

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your life savings and go gamble it on risky stock

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market speculation. Which seems insane today.

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Right. And if their bets went bad, your money

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evaporated. So Glass -Steagall effectively said,

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look, if you take everyday deposits from average

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citizens, you cannot play Wall Street casino

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games with that money. You have to be a boring,

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stable commercial bank. If you want to be an

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investment bank, and take massive risks, you

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absolutely cannot use everyday checking accounts

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to fund it. That structural change is huge. And,

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you know, I was looking through the source material,

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and there's this brilliant contrast with Canada

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that completely recontextualizes the banking

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crisis for me. Oh, yeah, the Canadian system.

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Yeah, yeah. Because if this depression was a

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global catastrophe, why didn't this massive wave

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of 9 ,000 bank failures happen? Everywhere. Canada's

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right next door. And they didn't have a single

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bank failure during this entire period. Not one.

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It's amazing. But the Canadian miracle wasn't

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magic. It was structural architecture. Canada

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utilized a branch banking model that stretched

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across provincial lines. OK. So a single bank

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might have a branch in an agricultural town in

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Alberta and another branch in a manufacturing

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hub in Ontario. That gave them incredible geographic

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and financial diversity. If a crop failed in

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one province, the bank's other branches could

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absorb the shock. While the United States relied

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on this hyper fragmented system of tiny independent

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local banks, banks. So if the local factory closed

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or the local crop failed, that local bank had

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no buffer. It just died. Exactly. And when those

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thousands of local banks died, they took the

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money supply down with them. The economist Milton

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Friedman pointed out that this wasn't just about

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people losing their savings. It was a macroeconomic

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disaster. Right. When banks fail, credit vanishes.

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When credit vanishes the entire money supply

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of the country shrinks drastically and when there

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are fewer dollars circulating in the economy

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the price of everything drops. Which brings us

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to the true monster of the Great Depression,

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the deflationary death spiral. Yes. And we hear

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that term deflation thrown around. And on the

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surface, falling prices sound great. Like if

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I'm broke, cheaper groceries sound like a win.

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Why is a deflationary spiral a death sentence

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for an economy? OK, let's walk through the math

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on a micro level. Imagine you're a wheat farmer

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in 1929. OK, I'm a farmer. You owe the bank $1

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,000 for your tractor. At the time, you sell

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your wheat for $1 a bushel. So you need to grow

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and sell 1 ,000 bushels of wheat to pay off your

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debt. Simple enough. Sounds doable. But then

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the depression hits, the money supply shrinks,

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and massive deflation takes hold. By 1932, the

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price of wheat drops to 10 cents a bushel. Oh,

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wow. So suddenly, to pay off that exact same

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$1 ,000 debt, you don't need 1 ,000 bushels,

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you need 10 ,000 bushels. Exactly. Your debt

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has effectively multiplied by 10. without you

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borrowing a single extra dime. That is brutal.

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It becomes mathematically impossible to pay back.

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So you default. The bank seizes your farm, but

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the farm is worthless now, so the bank goes bankrupt.

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Multiply that by millions of citizens and businesses,

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and you have a completely frozen economy. Which

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perfectly explains the next major triage move,

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taking the US off the gold standard. Because

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as long as the US dollar was rigidly tied to

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a specific amount of physical gold, The central

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bank was wearing a straight jacket. They couldn't

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just print more money or aggressively lower interest

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rates to fight that deflation. Because if they

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did, investors would panic. They'd demand their

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dollars be converted to gold and ship that gold

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overseas. It would drain the country's reserves

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entirely. So suspending the gold standard allowed

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the dollar to float freely. The Federal Reserve

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could finally expand the money supply. By printing

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money, they were intentionally trying to cause

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inflation to break that death spiral and allow

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people to actually pay off their crushing debts.

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And that gets us through the financial triage.

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Right. So the bleeding is finally stopped. The

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banks are stabilized. The currency is decoupled

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from gold and the administration pivots. They

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move from the financial emergency room to the

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physical breathing economy, agriculture, and

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industry. This is the era of the first New Deal.

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The alphabet soup of new government agencies,

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primarily the AAA. the Agricultural Adjustment

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Administration, and the NRA, the National Recovery

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Administration. And this brings us right back

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to the hook of our deep dive, the slaughtering

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of the pigs. Yeah, it remains one of the most

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controversial and widely misunderstood economic

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interventions in history. Because it just feels

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so wrong. You have massive bread lines in cities

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like Chicago and New York. People are starving.

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And the government's grand solution is to pay

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farmers to destroy millions of acres of cotton

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and slaughter millions of piglets leaving the

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meat to rot in ditches. Like how does destroying

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the food supply help a starving nation? It comes

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back to a concept the administration called parity.

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The goal was to restore the purchasing power

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of agricultural commodities to the golden years

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right before World War I. You really have to

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look at what happened in the 1920s. Okay what

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happened? Rapid mechanization. The widespread

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adoption of gas powered tractors, better chemical

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fertilizers. It meant American farmers became

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wildly efficient. They were producing mountains

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of food. So they basically became victims of

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their own success. Exactly. They flooded the

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market. That massive oversupply crashed agricultural

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prices well before the stocks market even crashed

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in 1929. By 1933, prices were so insanely low

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that harvesting a crop actually cost the farmer

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more money than the crop was worth on the open

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market. That is just mind -blowing. Wheat was

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literally left to rot in the fields of Montana.

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Sheep were slaughtered in Oregon and thrown into

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canyons just to save on the cost of transporting

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them to market. So the government realizes that

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if the rural economy dies, the farmers can't

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buy manufactured goods from the cities and the

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factory workers lose their jobs anyway. Right.

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The AAA steps in and creates artificial scarcity

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by literally paying farmers to not grow crops

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or to destroy existing livestock. They severely

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reduce the total output. And that forced market

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prices to rise back to a survival level for the

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farmers. It was a brutal mathematical calculation.

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But by 1937, it had rapidly doubled the average

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income of landowning farmers. OK, so that's agriculture.

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What about industry? Well, they attempted a similar,

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heavily managed approach for industry with the

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NRA, the National Recovery Administration. The

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government essentially encouraged industries

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to get together and create cartels. The Blue

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Eagle campaign, right? Yes. Businesses that complied

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got to display a Blue Eagle poster in their window.

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It established minimum wages. It finally abolished

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child labor, which was huge, but it also set

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mandatory price floors. They made it a federal

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crime for a business to lower its prices past

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a certain point. Wait, hold on. This is where

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the logic gets really twisted for me. If millions

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of people are unemployed and completely broke...

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How does making goods legally more expensive

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help them? Wouldn't a price floor just price

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starving people out of the market entirely? That

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is exactly the criticism many economists level

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at the NRA. But the administration's logic was

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focused on the producers, not just the consumers.

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They believed that cutthroat competition was

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forcing businesses to slash prices just to survive.

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And to afford those slash prices, the businesses

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had to slash wages or fire workers. That destroyed

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consumer demand, leading to more price cuts and

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more wage cuts. The NRA price floors were an

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attempt to put a hard floor under wages. If businesses

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couldn't undercut each other on price, they wouldn't

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need to slash their workers' pay to compete.

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It's an incredible level of micromanagement,

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though. I mean, the government is suddenly dictating

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the price of a chicken in a local butcher shop

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or how many hours a tailor can work. Yeah, it'll

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lie. And while the administration thought this

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was necessary, the Supreme Court took a look

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at this unprecedented federal overreach and just

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brought the hammer down. They did. The Supreme

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Court unanimously struck down both the original

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AAA and the NRA. They rule that the federal government

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absolutely does not have the constitutional authority

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to dictate local agricultural production quotas

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or enforce granular industrial trade codes on

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local businesses. Okay, so here's where it gets

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really interesting. Because FDR is now completely

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cornered. The Supreme Court just demolished his

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primary emergency tools. And despite all the

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bank fixes and the farm subsidies, by 1935, unemployment

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is still hovering over 20%. The temporary bandages

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aren't working. Right. And they aren't surviving

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legal challenges. He realizes he needs something

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permanent, something constitutional, and something

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bulletproof, which leads us directly into the

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second new deal. This is the critical pivot.

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The Roosevelt administration shifts from treating

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the Depression as a temporary emergency that

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needs triage to viewing the American economy

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as structurally flawed. They decide it requires

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a permanent, institutionalized government safety

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net. And the absolute crown jewel of this pivot

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is the Social Security Act of 1935. It established

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universal retirement pensions, unemployment insurance,

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and welfare benefits for the handicapped and

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needy children. And the way FDR structured the

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funding is honestly a lesson in political immortality.

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It really is. He completely refused to fund it

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out of general tax revenue. He insisted it be

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funded by a specific payroll tax taken straight

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out of a worker's paycheck matched by the employer.

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Right. When you look at your pay stub today and

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see that FICA deduction taking a bite out of

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your check, you're looking at the direct fingerprint

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of FDR's 1935 strategy. There's an incredible

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quote from the sources where FDR explains exactly

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why he did it that way. He said, we put those

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payroll contributions there so as to give the

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contributors a legal, moral, and political right

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to collect their pensions. With those taxes in

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there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social

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security program. It was brilliant. By tying

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it directly to individual visible contributions,

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he transformed it. It wasn't a government handout

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that could be cut during a budget crisis. It

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was an earned right that the citizen had paid

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for. Alongside Social Security, we get the massive

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structural jobs programs, most notably the WPA,

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the Works Progress Administration. And this wasn't

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just handing out checks. They eventually employed

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over eight and a half million people. Yeah. And

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we aren't just talking about digging ditches

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here. Right. They built the infrastructure of

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modern America. The Lincoln Tunnel, LaGuardia

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Airport, thousands of hospitals, schools and

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bridges. But the part that fascinates me the

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most is the arts funding. Oh, the Federal Theater

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Project, the Federal Writers Project, the Federal

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Art Project. Yeah. The administration operated

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on the premise that an unemployed artist, a musician

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or a historian had just as much right to work

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and eat as an unemployed brook layer. They hired

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thousands of writers. I mean, they hired Zora

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Neale Hurston to travel the South, recording

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vanishing folklore and conducting oral history

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interviews with former slaves. They created incredible

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state guidebooks. It is a massive cultural undertaking.

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But as we marvel at the sheer scale of this new

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safety net, our sources require us to look very

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critically at who it caught and who was intentionally

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allowed to fall through the holes. Yeah, the

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realities of discrimination baked into the New

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Deal are stark and undeniable. While programs

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like the WPA did hire Black Americans, they largely

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operated in strictly segregated units, often

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assigned to the most grueling physical labor.

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And the discrimination goes much deeper into

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the actual economic legislation we discussed

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earlier. Take the NRA, which established those

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federal minimum wages. It was heavily criticized

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by Black leaders at the time. In fact, many in

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the Black press dubbed it the Negro Removal Act.

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because the unintended consequence of implementing

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a strict federal minimum wage in a deeply prejudiced

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society was devastating. Many white employers

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simply refused to pay black workers the new higher

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federal wage. Rather than pay them equally, they

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fired them and hired white workers to take their

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place. And then there is the housing sector,

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which carries perhaps the most toxic lasting

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legacy of the entire era. The New Deal created

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the Homeowners Loan Corporation, the HOLC, and

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the Federal Housing Administration, the FHA.

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These were designed to back mortgages, offer

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lower interest rates, and save millions of homes

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from foreclosure. But in doing so, they institutionalized

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a practice that defined American geography, redlining.

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If we connect this to the bigger picture, we

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see the exact mechanism of how generational wealth

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was restricted. The HOLC didn't just hand out

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loans blindly. They dispatched appraisers to

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meticulously map out major American cities, grading

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neighborhoods on their perceived financial risk.

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And the determining factor for a high -risk neighborhood

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was explicitly racial. The sources detail how

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any neighborhood with what the government termed

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inharmonious racial groups, which primarily meant

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black residents, but also applied to certain

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immigrant populations, was outlined on these

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maps in red ink, marking it as a hazardous area

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for investment. This wasn't some secret bias.

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It was literal written policy. The FHA underwriting

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manual explicitly warned against the infiltration

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of incompatible racial groups. It meant that

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if you were a black American, regardless of your

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personal credit score or income, you were systematically

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denied access to these federally backed low interest

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mortgages. The government even required a real

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estate developers building new suburban projects

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to include racially restrictive covenants, legally

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binding clauses in the property deed that banned

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the future sale of the home to black buyers.

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If that developer wanted federal backing. It's

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awful. When you think about this, it's staggering.

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These 1930s maps didn't just exist in the history

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books of the Progression Era. They actively shaped

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the zoning, the school districts, the segregated

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geography, and the massive generational wealth

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gap of the modern cities you live in today. Exactly.

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Because for decades, homeownership was the primary

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engine for middle class wealth creation, and

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an entire demographic was locked out of the engine

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room by federal design. The New Deal undeniably

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rebuilt the American economy, but it built a

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new structure on top of the existing deeply flawed

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racial architecture of the 1930s. So what does

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this all mean? We've explored the banking triage,

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the agricultural paradoxes, the birth of Social

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Security and the deeply unequal application of

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these maps. It brings us to the ultimate million

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dollar historical and economic debate. Did the

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New Deal actually cure the Great Depression?

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Well, there is absolutely no consensus among

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economists on that question. Why? Oh, yeah. If

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we break down the competing schools of thought

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objectively, you generally see three distinct

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narratives. Think of the American economy in

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1933 as a car that is completely stalled out

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on the highway. OK, stalled car. Got it. First,

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you have the Keynesian economists. Their view

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is that the car simply ran out of gas. Private

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demand had collapsed, so the government needed

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to step in and fill the tank with massive deficit

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spending. They argue the New Deal successfully

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halted the freefall and eased the suffering.

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But? But, ironically, they believe SDR was far

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too fiscally conservative. Oh, interesting. Yeah,

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he hated deficits. Keynesians argue he never

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pumped enough gas into the tank to actually restart

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the engine. From their perspective, it took the

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massive, unavoidable deficit spending of World

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War II, building thousands of tanks and planes,

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what they call military Keynesianism, to finally

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achieve full employment. OK, so the Keynesians

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say the New Deal is the right idea, but FDR didn't

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press the pedal hard enough. What about the second

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view? The second view comes from the monetarists,

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most famously championed by Milton Friedman.

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They look at the stalled car and argue that the

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Federal Reserve actually broke the steering wheel

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in the late 1920s by letting the money supply

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shrink in the first place. Right, the deflation

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we talked about. Exactly. For the monetarists,

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the New Deal's banking reforms creating the FDIC,

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dropping the gold standard, were brilliant and

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entirely sufficient to fix the steering wheel.

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But they argue that the heavy -handed micromanagement,

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specifically the NRA's price floors and industry

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cartels, acted like someone repeatedly yanking

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the emergency brake. Oh, wow. They believe the

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market would have naturally recovered much faster

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if the government hadn't stifled business growth

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with those regulations. So Keynesians say pump

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more gas, monetarists say fix the bank and take

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off the emergency brake. What's the third perspective?

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The third is the new Keynesian, or expectations

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theory. This argues that the recovery was almost

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entirely psychological. When Roosevelt took office

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and implemented these immediate radical regime

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changes closing the banks, speaking directly

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to the public, he instantly shifted the psychology

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of the driver. The mindset of the public. Exactly.

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For years, people expected prices to keep falling,

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so they hoarded their money in fear. Overnight,

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Roosevelt convinced the public that the government

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was going to force prices up. Believing that

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inflation was coming, people stopped hoarding

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and started buying goods before they got more

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expensive. It stimulated demand instantly. It

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was a master class in manipulating public expectations

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to change economic reality. It's fascinating

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how the exact same historical data set can be

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interpreted so differently by brilliant economic

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minds. But it's crucial to remember that the

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debate at the time wasn't just academic economics.

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It was a massive, vicious, political, Rorschach

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test. Oh, absolutely. And it's important to note

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for you listening, we are merely reporting the

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historical reactions found in the sources here.

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We aren't endorsing any of these political views.

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Yeah, the vitriol was intense. From the political

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gore. Right, there were loud claims that the

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New Deal was tantamount to fascism. Critics pointed

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to the NRA's strict economic controls and the

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Blue Eagle campaign, and they saw incredibly

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uncomfortable parallels to the state -directed

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command economies of Mussolini's Italy or Hitler's

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Germany. There were also widespread, fervent

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accusations of communism. Figures like Elizabeth

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Dilling published fiery propaganda about the

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Roosevelt Red Record, stoking national fears

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that the federal government was actively being

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infiltrated by Soviet agents aiming to destroy

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American capitalism. And the criticism from the

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political left was just as fierce, but for the

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exact opposite reasons. New left historians and

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contemporary radical critics argued that the

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New Deal wasn't revolutionary at all. They argued

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it acted as a mere band -aid, a calculated pacification

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strategy designed specifically to preserve the

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most exploitative elements of capitalism. Right,

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to keep the system intact. Exactly. They criticize

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Roosevelt for doing far too little to challenge

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the power of massive corporations, for refusing

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to nationalize the banks entirely, and for actively

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ignoring the plight of sharecroppers, women and

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minorities, just to keep Southern Democrats in

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his voting coalition. Roosevelt was walking a

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nearly impossible tightrope. He was trying to

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cobble together enough reforms to save liberal

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democracy and the capitalist system in a global

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era where many other traumatized nations were

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entirely abandoning democracy and falling to

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extreme dictatorships on both the left and the

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right. It really was one of the most precarious

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moments in human history. To wrap all of this

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up, regardless of whether you side with the Keynesians

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or the monetarists and regardless of the fierce

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political mudslinging of the era, there is one

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undeniable structural fact. The New Deal. profoundly,

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permanently transformed the power and purpose

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of the federal government in the United States.

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It took a nation with a strictly laissez faire

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mentality, a country where your poverty or your

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unemployment was viewed as your own personal

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moral failure, or at best a problem for your

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global church charity. And it shifted it into

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a modern reality where the national government

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takes active legal responsibility for the basic

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economic security of its citizens. It completely

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rewrote the American social contract. But there

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is one final provocative thought from the source

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material that I want to leave you with, and it

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has to do with federalism. OK, let's hear it.

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We spent this entire deep dive talking about

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the massive, unprecedented expansion of federal

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power during the 1930s. But that expansion deeply

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aggravated state governments, who suddenly felt

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like middle management. Right, because suddenly

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politicians in Washington are dictating exactly

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how relief money is supposed to be spent in local

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backyards across the country. Exactly. And the

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states didn't just roll over and accept it. Some

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engaged in what historians specifically call

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administrative sabotage. Administrative sabotage.

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Yeah, there's a glaring example from Ohio where

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the state governor mismanaged, delayed, and mishandled

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federal relief funds so egregiously that the

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Roosevelt administration eventually had to step

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in, legally strip the state of its authority,

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and completely federalize their local relief

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efforts. That is wild. The state was actively

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fighting the hand that was trying to feed its

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own starving citizens just to protect its political

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turf. It forces you to ponder a dynamic that

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is still incredibly relevant today. Whenever

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a massive new federal policy is announced, whether

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it's regarding health care, infrastructure, spending

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or education, the real battle isn't just fought

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in the halls of Congress in Washington, D .C.

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No, it's not. It's fought in the trenches of

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your local and state governments. It's in how

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your governor or your mayor chooses to implement,

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delay or quietly sabotage that federal mandate?

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It raises an important question for you to consider.

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How much of the government that you experience

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in your daily life is actually just this invisible

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ongoing tug of war between federal ambition and

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state resistance? That is a phenomenal point

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to end on. It brings us right back to that emergency

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room we started in. The federal doctors in 1933

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rushed in, they slapped on the tourniquet, and

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they forced the patient to swallow a completely

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new, highly experimental regimen of medicine.

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And while historians and economists will argue

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forever about which specific pill actually cured

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the disease, the reality is that the hospital

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itself, the very structure of the American system,

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was never, ever the same again. Thanks for taking

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this deep dive with us.
