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Imagine you're sitting in a performance review,

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your manager is going over your recent projects,

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and they describe your approach to the company

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budget as thrifty. Oh, yeah. That's a good word.

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You'd probably smile. Right. Right. You'd take

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it as a compliment, maybe even expect a bonus.

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But what if instead a different manager looked

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at the exact same spending habits, the exact

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same spreadsheets, and called you cheap? Rouch.

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Yeah, completely different vibe. Exactly. I mean,

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one word gets you promoted, and the other might

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totally stall your career. And the crazy thing

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is, they're describing the exact same physical

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actions in the world, yet the impact is, well,

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it's entirely different. So today, we're looking

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at the secret agents of human language. It's

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so true. We usually think of the words we use

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every day as just Neutral messengers like kind

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of like tiny delivery drivers just dropping off

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a fact just clocking in and clocking out right

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exactly You say a word it describes a piece of

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reality and that's the end of the transaction

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It's supposed to be this simple one -to -one

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exchange of information because you know We really

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like things to be categorized neatly either.

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It's a cold hard fact or it's a subjective opinion

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Totally. And when I first realized that some

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of the most common words we use are basically

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actively refusing to play by those rules, it

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Completely broke my brain. So we're doing a deep

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dive today into this dense but amazing philosophical

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concept from Wikipedia called thick concepts.

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Fantastic topic. It really is. And for you listening,

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once you see how these words are doing double

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duty, I mean, pretending to just describe reality

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while simultaneously forcing a moral opinion

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about it right into your brain, you will literally

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never read a news headline or argue with a coworker

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the exact same way again. And exploring this

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goes way beyond just linguistic wordplay or,

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you know, debating. dictionary definitions, the

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whole debate over thick concepts sits at the

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very heart of how we understand ethical knowledge.

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It gets deep fast. It really does. It's this

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profound inquiry into whether the universe is

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just a collection of cold, neutral atoms or if

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human values are, well, actually woven into the

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fabric of reality itself. Okay, so to even wrap

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our heads around what makes a concept thick.

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I think we first need to look at the extremes

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on either end of the linguistic spectrum, the

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thin concepts. Yeah, that's the best place to

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start. Because you really can't appreciate how

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sneaky a thick concept is until you realize what

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a normal, well -behaved word looks like. Let's

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look at the purely factual side of things first,

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what philosophers call thin descriptive concepts.

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So the quintessential examples of thin descriptive

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concepts are words like water, gold, length,

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mass. Just the basics. Right. These are terms

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that simply pick out genuine, measurable features

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of the physical world. They're completely, totally

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morally neutral. So if I tell you a ring is made

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of gold, I'm not judging it. Exactly. When you

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tell someone that a ring is gold or a box has

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a certain mass, you aren't projecting any kind

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of moral judgment onto those objects. You're

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just pointing to physical reality. Those words

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do not in themselves provide you with any any

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reasons for action. Like, if I tell you a glass

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is full of water, I haven't told you if it's

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pristine delicious water or, you know, stagnant

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dangerous water. No, not at all. I haven't told

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you if you should drink it. I've literally just

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handed you raw data. But then, on the complete

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opposite end of the spectrum, we have the other

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extreme, right? the thin, evaluative concepts.

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Right. And the classic examples here are words

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like right, wrong, good, and bad. And these function

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in the exact opposite way of the descriptive

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concepts. Opposite how? Well, they don't pick

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out genuine, measurable features of the physical

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world. Instead, they provide you with reasons

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for action. They are pure evaluation. Oh, I see

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because you can't take a tape measure and find

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the goodness of a couch Like good doesn't describe

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the physics of the upholstery or the wood It

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just tells you how we are evaluating the experience

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of sitting on it. It's a great way to put it

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Okay, let's untack this because this is where

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the star of our show comes in the thick concept

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This is a concept that occupies a middle position.

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It merges both of those extremes together. It

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does. It has a significant degree of descriptive

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content, so it points to physical reality, but

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it is also heavily evaluatively loaded. The classic

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examples philosophers use are virtues and vices.

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So, courage, cruelty, truthfulness, kindness.

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So it's basically doing two things at once. Right,

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it acts as a double feature. It's carrying both

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a fact about the world and a judgment about that

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fact simultaneously packed into a single word.

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Let's throw out the standard academic examples

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for just a second to really visualize how this

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works for everyone listening. Think about baking.

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Okay, I like where this is going. So the thin

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descriptive concepts, those are like your raw

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list of ingredients. You've got flour, sugar,

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eggs. Just physical facts. Right. Morally neutral

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ingredients. Exactly. And the thin evaluative

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concept is like someone just standing in the

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kitchen yelling, yum. Just pure feeling. Right.

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But the thick concept, that's the actual baked

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cake. It's the combination of the physical ingredients

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and the resulting enjoyment all baked into one

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thing that you can't just easily pull apart.

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Or here's another one. Think about a weed growing

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in your garden. Oh, that's a classic one. Descriptively,

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what is a weed? I mean, it's just a plant. It

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has leaves, roots, it photosynthesizes. Those

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are thin descriptive facts. Yes. But evaluatively,

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the word weed means something bad. It means an

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undesirable plant that needs to be, you know,

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destroyed or pulled out. And the crucial thing

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there is you really cannot separate the physical

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plant from the negative judgment. Why not? Because

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the only thing that makes that specific plant

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a weed is our negative evaluation of where it's

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growing. I mean, a dandelion is a beautiful flower

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to a toddler, right? No, totally. They love them.

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But it's a wheat to a landscaper. The judgment

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actually creates the category itself. That is

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wild. What's fascinating here is how this plays

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out when we look at the specific example of courage

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from the source material. So, descriptively,

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courage can be given this rough characterization

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as... opposing danger to promote a valued end.

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Opposing danger to promote a valued end. Right.

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That's the factual, physical part of the action.

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You can physically observe someone opposing danger.

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But evaluatively, characterizing someone as courageous

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typically involves expressing an attitude of

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esteem. Like giving them a mental high five.

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Basically, yeah. The text actually refers to

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this as a pro attitude. It asserts that the action

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has a prima facie good -making quality. Wait,

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prima facie good -making quality? That is some

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seriously heavy academic jargon right there.

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It is a bit of a mouthful. So you mean that on

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its face, just at first glance, the very act

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of doing this thing inherently makes the world

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a slightly better place. You've got it perfectly.

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The word itself carries this built -in assumption

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that the action is commendable. By choosing the

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word courage, you aren't just saying the person

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faced danger, you're literally cheering them

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on. The approval is just baked right into the

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vocabulary. And this brings up a massive problem

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for a certain group of philosophers, doesn't

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it? Oh, a huge problem. Because if courage is

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this inextricable mix of fact and feeling, it

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completely ruins the neat categorization of a

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purely objective reality. Like, if I'm someone

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who believes the universe is just math and physics,

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Thick concepts must be absolutely terrifying.

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They are. This double feature is the absolute

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center of a war between two groups, the moral

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expressivists and the moral realists. And you

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hit on exactly why the expressivists are so troubled

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by thick concepts. Let's talk about the expressivists

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first. What's their deal? Well, expressivists

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favor an account of moral values as simply being

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attitudes that humans project onto a blank, neutral

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world. For them, the universe itself doesn't

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contain goodness or badness. So it's all just

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in our heads. Exactly. Those are just human emotions

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we're pasting onto physical events. They want

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a tidy universe, right? Like facts over here

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in the science department and feelings over there

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in the poetry department. That is exactly what

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they want. And to maintain that clean division,

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They desperately need to prove that we can maintain

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a strict distinction between the morally neutral

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descriptive features of a thick concept and the

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evaluative attitudes that typically go with them.

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So they want to prove that you can always pull

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the fact and the feeling apart, like unbaking

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the cake. Yes, precisely. OK, so if I'm an expressivist,

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I must look at the word courage and think it's

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just a math equation. I'm guessing they think

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you can just decouple the feeling from the fact,

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isolate the two variables, and prove that the

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word is just a mashup of two entirely separate

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things. You just described the conjunctive account

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perfectly. The conjunctive account. Yeah. Many

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theorists in the expressivist camp argue that

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a thick concept should be analyzed as a conjunction,

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basically a simple joining of a descriptive part

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and an evaluative part. A fundamental feature

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of this analysis is the claim that the descriptive

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content of a thick concept can be perfectly understood

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in the complete absence of the evaluative content.

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Wait, really? So how does the conjunctive account

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handle our courage example mechanically? Do they

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just treat it like two separate clauses in a

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sentence? Pretty much. On this account, saying

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someone is courageous is just sticking two completely

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separate ideas together. Idea one is the descriptive

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part. you know, opposing danger to promote a

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valued end. Okay, the facts. Right. And idea

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two is the evaluative part, and I approve of

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this. The evaluative part is really just a label.

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The text notes that on this view, the evaluative

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part can be characterized as a prescriptive flag.

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A prescriptive flag. Yeah, we just happen to

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pin this little flag of approval onto the physical

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action. It's just pinning a little ribbon that

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says, yay, onto the cold factual mechanics of

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someone running into a burning building. That's

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a great visual, yes. So under this theory, the

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expressivists are arguing I could theoretically

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strip away the goodness of courage, invent a

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totally new, purely descriptive word for the

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exact same physical action, and I'd have a completely

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accurate leftover concept that means the exact

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same thing just without the emotion. That is

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exactly what they argue. They say it is, in principle,

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completely possible to construct a totally descriptive

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concept with zero evaluative force that picks

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out the exact same features of the world. Wow.

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One theorist in the references actually calls

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this the skeleton account. You strip away the

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flesh of the human moral judgment and you are

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left with a neutral bony skeleton of the physical

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action. I gotta say, that feels incredibly robotic

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to me. It does feel a bit clinical. Like if I

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just described someone opposing danger to promote

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a valued end without any of the admiration or

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the pro attitude that comes with the word courage,

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it feels like I'm missing the entire point of

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what is actually happening. I completely agree.

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It's like describing a beautiful, heartbreaking

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symphony as just a series of varying air pressure

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waves hitting an eardrum. I mean, it's technically

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true on a physical level, but you've lost the

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actual reality of the music. And that feeling

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you have, that raises the pivotal question of

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the entire debate. If the skeleton account feels

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robotic and incomplete, is it actually an accurate

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model of how human language and ethics work?

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I'm guessing not everyone thinks so. Definitely

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not. That lingering feeling you have of missing

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the point is exactly the fuel for the opposing

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philosophical camp. the moral realists. Ah, the

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realists. The rebellion against the skeleton

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account. Exactly. So if the expressivists want

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to separate the facts from the feelings, I assume

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the realists are arguing that the fact and the

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feeling are permanently fused together. Yes.

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The realists entirely reject the conjunctive

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account. They heavily criticize the whole idea

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that you can just unpin the prescriptive flag

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from a thick concept. They don't buy the flag

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analogy at all. Not even a little bit. In their

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view, the world -guided content The facts and

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the action -guiding content, the values, cannot

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be usefully separated at all. The source points

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out that for a moral realist, competent use of

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a thick concept actually constitutes ethical

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knowledge. Ethical knowledge, meaning it's not

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just a subjective opinion you're projecting onto

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a blank canvas. It's an objective truth that

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you know about the world. You are perceiving

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something real. Exactly. For the realist, the

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only way to understand a thick concept is to

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understand the descriptive and the evaluative

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aspects as a unified whole. You just can't reduce

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it to its parts. So the emotion is part of the

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definition. The evaluative aspect is profoundly

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involved in the very practice of using the word.

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You literally cannot understand a thick concept

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without also understanding its evaluative point.

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Okay, here's where it gets really interesting.

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Let's look at the mechanism of how this actually

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works. Like, how did the evaluation fuse with

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the fact? Let's apply this to another example

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from the text, the concept of cruelty. Oh, that's

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a powerful example. Let's say I try to play the

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expressivist game, right? And I use neutral,

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thin terms to describe someone causing harm to

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someone else. Maybe I say person A inflicted

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severe physical damage on person B. OK, purely

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descriptive. Right. But according to the realist,

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if I stop there, I haven't just removed a Boo

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flag. I am actually failing to capture the reality

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of the situation. That's right. The text specifically

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notes that the rationale for choosing the word

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cruel, rather than merely describing it in neutral

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terms, is to tune into that specific evaluative

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aspect. Why is that tuning in so important? Because

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inflicting severe physical damage could describe

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a sadistic torturer, but it could also describe

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a trauma surgeon performing a desperate life

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-saving amputation without anesthesia. Oh, wow.

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Yeah. Both cause severe physical harm. Both cause

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immense pain. That is a boundary drawing mechanism.

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To know where the boundary is, to know which

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acts of causing physical harm are cruel and which

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ones are not, you have to understand the badness

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of cruelty. Exactly. The badness isn't just a

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flag you pin on the action after the fact. The

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badness is the lens you need to even be able

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to see the boundary of the action in the first

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place. The evaluation itself draws the boundary

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line around the facts. If you do not grasp the

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evaluative perspective of cruelty, if you don't

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understand why it is bad, you will not be able

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to reliably identify new instances of cruelty

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in the real world. Because they look the same

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physically. Exactly. You'd look at the surgeon

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and the torturer and be totally unable to distinguish

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them based purely on their physical movements.

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So the evaluation is part of the fact. That completely

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destroys the skeleton account. It really does.

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If you strip away the moral flesh, the skeleton

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literally falls apart. You cannot invent a totally

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neutral, purely descriptive word for cruelty,

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because the badness is what actually groups those

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specific actions together. Which is exactly how

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the realists explain the process of someone learning

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one of these words. The source outlines this

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fascinating distinction between the novice and

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the competent user. How does that work? Well,

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a descriptive summary. like our phrase inflicting

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physical damage, might allow a novice to see

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the salient features of what is happening. It

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gives them the general shape of the action. But

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descriptive terms alone... cannot completely

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fill in the blanks. So the novice can memorize

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the physical traits, but they don't really get

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the word yet? Right. To fully understand the

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thick concept and become a competent user, a

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person has to perform a hooking on to the evaluative

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perspective. Hooking on. I like that. Yeah, they

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have to basically step inside the moral framework.

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And this is why realists argue that the descriptive

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and evaluative just cannot be untangled. The

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evaluative point guides the descriptive application.

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In the realist's view, the world itself contains

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these moral dimensions, and our sick concepts

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are the tools we use to perceive them. So what

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does this all mean? Like, why does this philosophical

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tug of war matter for you, listening to this

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deep dive right now? It's a great question. It

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matters because the words you use, and the words

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used against you, are incredibly powerful tools.

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When someone in a meeting calls a business strategy

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bold instead of reckless... Ah, happens all the

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time. You know, when a news article describes

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a political protester as a freedom fighter instead

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of a terrorist, they are not just giving you

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a neutral sequence of events. No, not at all.

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They are deploying thick concepts. They're handing

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you a fact that has an ethical judgment, a pro

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attitude, or a negative attitude already baked

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right into the DNA of the sentence. If we connect

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this to the bigger picture, this entire debate

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over thick concepts is really a profound argument

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about the nature of reality. It asks us to consider

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our place in the universe. Are we just observers

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or are we part of it? Exactly. Are our values

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just arbitrary, prescriptive flags that we invent

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to comfort ourselves in a cold, neutral, mechanical

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universe? Or are our values actually woven into

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the very fabric of how we experience and understand

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the world? It's massive. It is. Because if competent

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use of these words constitutes actual ethical

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knowledge, then ethics isn't just a matter of

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personal taste. It is a matter of accurately

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perceiving the world around you. It changes everything

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about how you listen to people talk. You start

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looking for these secret agents hiding in plain

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sight. You realize that true neutrality might

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honestly be an illusion. It's very hard to unsee

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it once you notice it. And the source material

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leaves us with a brilliant breadcrumb trail at

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the very end in the related concepts section

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that perfectly illustrates this. It mentions

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a phenomenon called emotive conjugation. Oh yes.

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It is a devastatingly simple demonstration of

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everything we've discussed today. A mode of conjugation

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is basically the idea that we change the thick

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concept we use depending on who we are talking

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about, even if the physical action is exactly

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the same. The classic example goes like this,

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I am firm. You are obstinate. He is a pig -headed

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fool. That is so good. Right. It's the exact

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same behavior, basically refusing to change your

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mind. But when I do it, I use a word with a built

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-in pro attitude. When you do it, I use a word

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with a negative attitude. The physical reality

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remains completely static. But the ethical knowledge

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conveyed shifts entirely based on the speaker's

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perspective. So it leaves you wondering the next

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time you're describing a frustrating situation

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to a friend or reading a headline about a controversial

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event. Are you actively, consciously choosing

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the facts? Or is the thick concept you've selected

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secretly doing all the judging for you without

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you even realizing it? A very unsettling thought.

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It is. And if values and facts are as deeply,

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beautifully intertwined as the moral realists

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claim, is it even possible for any of us to ever

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be truly, completely objective? A question that

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ensures you will definitely never look at a dictionary

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the same way again.
