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Imagine spending millions of dollars enlisting

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the absolute biggest hitmakers on the planet.

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And timing your release to the literal night

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before the most polarizing presidential election

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in modern American history. Right. And then,

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you know, trying to convince the world you just

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dropped a casual underground mixtape. It sounds

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like a massive contradiction, honestly. Totally.

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Welcome to today's deep dive, everyone. I'm your

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host and I am so excited to jump into this with

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our resident music industry expert. Hey there.

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Thrilled to be here because, you know, having

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the towering infrastructure of a major record

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label clashing directly with the gritty energy

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of street level hip hop culture. That contradiction

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was an accident. No, it really wasn't. OK, let's

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unpack this because today we are jumping straight

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into the blurred lines between. art, national

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politics, and pure industry strategy. And it

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is a fascinating intersection to look at. It

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really is. We are looking at a 2016 project by

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the American R &amp;B and hip -hop artist Ty Dolla

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Sign. The project is called Campaign. And our

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mission for you on this deep dive is to explore

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how this specific release functions as both a

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calculated commercial music rollout and, well,

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a real -time reflection of a highly charged political

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era. Yeah, and this is where the mechanics of

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pop culture become incredibly revealing. We aren't

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just looking at a collection of songs here, we're

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dissecting a vessel. A vessel for the cultural

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mood, right. We're exploring how artists manage

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to package and sell the complex mood of a nation,

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like while everyone else is still frantically

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trying to figure out what that mood even is.

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And just to be completely clear for everyone

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listening, Our goal today isn't to litigate the

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politics of 2016 or, you know, pick sides. Absolutely

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not. Right. We are entirely impartial here. We

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are not endorsing any political viewpoints or

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debating the merits of the Trump or Clinton campaigns.

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Nope. Just looking at the facts of the release.

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Exactly. We're simply looking under the hood

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to see how an artist took the massive polarizing

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energy of those campaigns and engineered it into

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a commercial music project. We are analyzing

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the mirror, not judging the reflection. That

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is a great way to put it. Well, thank you. And

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that distinction is vital because to understand

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the architecture of this cultural reaction, we

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really have to start with the thematic core.

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Right. Before we even touch on how the music

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was built. Yeah. Before we talk about who was

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featured on it or the beats, we need to understand

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the message and the specific timeline of its

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delivery. And the clock was ticking incredibly

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loudly on this one, wasn't it? Oh, it was a sprint.

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Yeah. Campaign was released on September 23,

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2016. It runs exactly 56 minutes and 47 seconds.

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And it is explicitly unapologetically framed

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around the 2016 presidential election. It doesn't

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shy away from it at all. Not at all. The entire

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tape serves as this recurring theme, expressing

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the views of Ty Dolla Sign, his friends, and

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his family on those specific campaigns. Right.

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It's not just some vague overarching statement

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about society. Exactly. It's tethered to the

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names and the anxieties dominating the news cycle

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at that exact second. What's fascinating here

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is how the project manages the scale of that

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anxiety. because national elections are inherently

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abstract. Oh, for sure. They happen on debate

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stages and in cable news segments. Right, but

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Tidal Assign grounds that high -level political

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discourse into deeply personal real -world stakes.

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You see this most clearly on the track, No Justice.

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Which actually dropped early in the summer, right?

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Like July 21st, 2016? Yes, exactly. And that

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track features a guest appearance by Ty's younger

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brother, Big TC. And the crucial detail there,

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the thing that shifts the entire gravity of the

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project, is that Big TC is incarcerated. Yeah,

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and the inclusion of actively incarcerated family

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member transforms the theme entirely. How so?

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Well, you're no longer just listening to a wealthy

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musician comment on the political landscape from

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a comfortable studio in Los Angeles. Right, you're

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hearing directly from someone on the inside.

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Exactly. You are hearing the justice system,

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which was one of the central debating points

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of the 2016 election, speak for itself through

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a family bond. Wow, yeah. It takes the political

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theme from something you watch on television

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and makes it something you live through in your

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own family tree. It makes the abstraction tangible.

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When you have a polished major label vocal track

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contrasted with the reality of the prison system,

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it completely bypasses the traditional slow -moving

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album cycle. It really does. It makes me think

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of this project as an audio polaroid. An audio

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polaroid. I really love that framing. The immediacy

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of a polaroid versus, say, a classical portrait.

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Exactly. Well, think about a traditional studio

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album. An album is like a grand oil painting.

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Right. It takes months or years. Exactly. It

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takes years to conceptualize, years to execute,

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and crucially, an oil painting takes months to

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dry. And in the music industry, that drying time

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is brutal. It's the endless wait for sample clearances,

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coordinating massive arena tour schedules, months

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of label focus grouping, and those six -month

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press tours. By the time that oil painting finally

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hangs in the gallery, the initial spark of inspiration

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might be three years old. Exactly. The culture

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has completely moved on. The relevance is diluted

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by the bureaucracy of the rollout. But a Polaroid.

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You just point and shoot. It's a raw, instant

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snapshot of a cultural moment. You shake it,

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and the picture develops right in front of your

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eyes. Yeah. Capturing the exact lighting and

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mood of that very second. By centering the tape

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around the 2016 election and explicitly featuring

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the real -time voices of his friends, his family,

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and his incarcerated brother, he used this format

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to completely bypass that corporate drying time.

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he took a flash photograph of the national anxiety.

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Exactly. That metaphor perfectly captures the

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artistic intention. But, you know, capturing

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that audio polaroid is useless if nobody actually

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sees it. True. Ty Dolla $ign had a major label

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budget. But how do you force the public to pay

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attention to a snapshot in the middle of the

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loudest, most chaotic election in modern history?

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It's a huge challenge. It is. And this brings

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us to a massive contradiction in the music industry

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and the confusing nature of how this raw, immediate

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Polaroid was packaged and sold. You're talking

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about the label commercial mixtape, aren't you?

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I am. Because when you look at the vessel carrying

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this message, it is explicitly defined as a commercial

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mixtape released by Atlantic Records. And Atlantic

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is a massive global powerhouse. And they armed

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this project with a premium blockbuster infrastructure.

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Like, if you look at the track listing. The guest

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stars read like a who's who of 2016 hip hop and

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R &amp;B royalty. It really is stacked. You have

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Future on the title track, Campaign. You have

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Travis Scott on Three Ways. You've got Migos

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on the track, Where. Plus appearances by Trey

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Songz, Wiz Khalifa, and Meek Mill. Not to mention

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the people behind the boards. The production

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credits are just staggering. Absolutely top tier.

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We are talking about Hitboy, Mike Dean, DJ Mustard,

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Zay Toven, Frank Dukes, and D -Mile. Yeah, these

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aren't underground beatmakers recording in a

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basement. No, these are some of the most sought

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after, expensive hitmakers in the entire industry.

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These are guys who build stadium -shaking soundscapes

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for artists like Beyonce and Kanye West. Which

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creates an undeniable friction with the title

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of the project. Wait, hold on. I got to push

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back on this terminology entirely. Please, let's

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hear it. You can't call this a mixtape. I mean,

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historically, a mixtape is a burned CD handed

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out of the trunk of a car in a parking lot or

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a free download on a blog meant to bypass sample

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clearances and label restrictions. Right. The

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Dat Biff era. Exactly. It's rough. It's street

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level. It's grassroots. If you have a multimillion

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dollar Atlantic Records marketing budget, a sprawling

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16 track track list, Guess Versus from Future

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and Travis Scott and production from Mike Dean

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and DJ Mustard. The math just doesn't add up.

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It really doesn't. Isn't commercial mixtape just

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a corporate rebrand? Like, isn't this just a

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full -fledged, big -budget studio album masquerading

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under a gritty mixtape label to sound more authentic?

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That pushback hits on the central paradox of

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the modern streaming era. Honestly, you are absolutely

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right to question the terminology. I just feel

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like it's a marketing trick. And the critical

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response to this project grappled with that exact

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identity crisis. Jordan Sargent, writing for

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Spin magazine, articulated this beautifully.

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What did he say? Sargent noted the campaign is,

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and I quote, a mixtape in name that feels not

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quite like a mixtape, but not exactly like an

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album either. Not quite a mixtape, not exactly

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an album. That feels like a label trying to have

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its cake and eat it too. It is entirely about

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expectation management and the economics of streaming.

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Sargent goes on to say that the project is at

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its best when it carries on the tradition of

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a richness of sound. as a virtue in and of itself.

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Okay, so why use the mixtape label when it has

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all the hallmarks and budget of a massive studio

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album? Because of how the industry judges albums.

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Ah, the expectations. Exactly. If Ty Dolla Sign

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calls this his official sophomore studio album,

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Atlantic record shareholders expect massive radio

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-dominating pop crossovers. Right. Music critics

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expect a perfectly cohesive overarching narrative

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that reinvents his sound. The pressure is astronomical.

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Oh, I see. So the commercial mixtape label is

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basically a shield. Pretty much. It gives him

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permission to be looser, like he still gets the

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major label budget to hire hip boy and Mike Dean

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to achieve that richness of sound, but calling

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it a mixtape lowers the thematic stakes. Exactly.

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He doesn't have to deliver the defining magnum

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opus of his career. He just has to deliver a

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vibe. Precisely. It buys him the flexibility

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to react to the new cycle in real time, to throw

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in a bunch of massive club features with Migos

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and Travis Scott, and to keep the energy reactionary.

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But crucially, because it's a commercial mixtape,

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it's not a free download. Right, you're streaming

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it. It's available on Spotify, Apple Music, and

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sold in stores. The label still monetizes every

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single stream. But they bypassed the traditional

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exhausting two -year marketing cycle of a formal

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album. Which ties perfectly back to the audio

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Polaroid analogy. The format itself was a tool

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to control how the audience and the critics digested

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the message. They engineered a loophole essentially.

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Yeah, to get major label distribution at grassroots

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speed. And that speed dictated everything about

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how the music was finally unveiled. We've discussed

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the message and the medium, but the execution

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of the release is perhaps the most revealing

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part of this deep dive. So how did they actually

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deploy it? How did Ty Dolla Sign and Atlantic

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Records actually release this to the wild? Well,

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they ran it like an actual political campaign.

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Oh, wow. The rollout was incredibly calculated,

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designed to ride the turbulent wave of the political

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calendar. So they matched the news cycle. Yeah.

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The lead single, which is the title track campaign

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featuring Future, actually dropped back on July

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11, 2016. Okay, so the audio was out there all

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summer. Right, the audio of the song was out

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in the world circulating in clubs and on streaming

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platforms, but the music video, they completely

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held it back. Wait, really? For how long? They

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didn't premiere the visual for the title track

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until November 7, 2016. Which was the exact night

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before election day. Literally the eve of the

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election. Yeah, that isn't an accident. They

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purposefully withheld their biggest piece of

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visual marketing for four months, just so it

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could detonate at the absolute peak of national

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anxiety. It's highly theatrical. And they were

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building momentum the entire time. They didn't

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just go quiet between July and November. What

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else did they draw? They pushed another single,

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Zaddy. with its own dedicated rollout and music

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video at the end of August. Right. Then they

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dropped promotional singles back to back in early

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September. Three Ways with Travis Scott on September

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1st and Stealing on September 9th. So building

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it up right before the tape drops. All of this

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served as the lead up to the full project release

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on September 23rd. They effectively built a three

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month promotional runaway. It perfectly mirrored

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the final frantic stretch of the actual presidential

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campaigns, culminating in that delayed music

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video drop right before the voting booths opened.

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So what does this all mean for you listening?

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When you look at a strategy that aggressive tying

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your art so inextricably to a specific Tuesday

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in November 2016, I have to wonder about the

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long -term cost. Yeah, does it age well? Right.

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Did holding that video until election eve maximize

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its cultural impact or did tying the project

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so closely to a single date inadvertently put

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an expiration date on the music itself? That

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is the million dollar question, isn't it? If

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we connect this to the bigger picture, the answer

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lies in how the public and the critics actually

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received it. Let's look at the commercial numbers

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first, because the math of a commercial mixtape

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is kind of tricky. Definitely. The tape debuted

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at number 28 on the U .S. Billboard 200 chart,

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and it moved 14 ,000 album -equivalent units

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in its first week. It also hit number 7 on the

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top R &amp;B hip -hop albums chart. Let's pause on

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that 14 ,000 number, because 2016 was a transitional

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time for the Billboard charts. Because of streaming.

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Yes. We're talking about album -equivalent units,

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not just physical CDs sold. This means Billboard

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was... calculating track streams and digital

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downloads and converting them into an album sale

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equivalent. Ah, gotcha. So 14 ,000 units for

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a project that was dropped relatively quickly

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under a mixtape moniker. It is a solid, respectable

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showing. It's respectable, sure, but if I'm playing

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devil's advocate again. Go for it. A track list

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featuring future Travis Scott and Migos, produced

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by DJ Mustard and Mike Dean, debuting at number

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28. That's not the earth -shattering number one

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you might expect from that caliber of star power.

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It's a fair point. It suggests that maybe the

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public saw it as a momentary novelty rather than

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a definitive musical milestone. And that exact

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tension is mirrored in the critical reception.

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The professional music press was incredibly divided

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on whether this strategy worked. What did the

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reviews look like? Well, on Metacritic, which

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aggregates reviews from major publications, Campaign

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earned a 71 out of 100. Okay. generally positive.

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It is, but it hides a really stark philosophical

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divide among individual critics over the value

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of political immediacy versus musical innovation.

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You can see this exact tension in how different

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magazines reacted. Like on one hand, you have

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Scott Glacier from XXL magazine. He loved it.

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He gave it a glowing four out of five, calling

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it a close runner up to the musical brilliance

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of Ty's previous full fledged studio album, Free

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TC. Yeah, for XXL capturing that volatile 2016

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energy was a massive success. The audio Polaroid

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worked. But then you look at a reviewer like

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Mick Jacobs from Pretty Much Amazing. He gave

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the project a C minus. Ouch. Why so low? His

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critique was entirely focused on the sonic architecture.

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He noted that yes, as a mixtape, he understood

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why it sounded somewhat derivative of the prevailing

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trap and R &amp;B trends of 2016. But he wanted more.

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Exactly. He still wished Ty Dolla Sign had pushed

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further in terms of musical experimentation.

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Right. He wanted the oil painting. He wanted

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the artist to take years to invent a totally

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new color palette. But you can't invent a new

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color palette when you're rushing to capture

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a snapshot of an election that's happening right

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now. You really can't. Exactly. The urgency of

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the project meant there wasn't time. or perhaps

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the inclination to reinvent the wheel sonically.

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Right. They just needed the strongest, most commercial

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vehicle to deliver the message immediately. And

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this divide is perfectly bridged by Winston Cook

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Wilson over at Pitchfork. What did Pitchfork

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say? He gave it a 6 .9 out of 10, essentially

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splitting the difference. He noted that campaign

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outpaced Ty's recent truly underground mixtape

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efforts. But ultimately, it mostly just preserved

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his musical bottom line. That phrase, musical

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bottom line, is the key to this whole deep dive,

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I think. How so? Well, when you tether your project

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to a rapidly moving political target, you are

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relying entirely on the energy of the moment

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to carry the art. Yes. The trade -off for capturing

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the immediate, high -impact flash photography

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of a cultural moment is that you might have to

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rely on standard, highly produced sounds to get

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it out the door. You sacrifice timeless musical

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experimentation for undeniable real -time relevance.

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It is the ultimate tightrope walk. And the Metacritic

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divide, weighing a respectable if not dominant

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billboard debut against debates over whether

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it's brilliant commentary or sonically derivative,

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shows us just how difficult it is to evaluate

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a project that sits directly on the fault line

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of art and immediate political reactions. It's

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a tricky balance for sure. Which brings us full

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circle. As we wrap up this deep dive, let's quickly

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recap the journey we've been on today. Sounds

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good. We took a closer look at Ty Dolla Signs

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2016 campaign and unpacked how it operated on

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multiple contradictory levels. We saw how it

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utilized the flexible middle ground format of

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the commercial mixtape to secure massive major

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label distribution and streaming revenue while

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maintaining a grassroots reactionary urgency.

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We examined how it leveraged a premium roster

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of industry features and elite producers to ensure

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it had a richness of sound capable of cutting

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to the the noise of a crowded, chaotic media

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market. And we looked at how its rollout was

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timed with razor sharp campaign trail precision

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culminating in a music video drop literally the

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night before the election to capture and capitalize

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on the volatile energy of the 2016 political

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landscape. All while grounding high level national

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discourse in the deeply personal realities of

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the artist's own incarcerated family. It is a

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remarkable case study in how the music industry

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metabolizes current events. It truly is. And

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before we go, I want to leave you, the listener,

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with one final thought to mull over. I'd love

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to hear it. We rely on traditional history books,

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filled with transcripts of political speeches,

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archived news articles, and voter turnout statistics

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to record the facts of our past. Right. But facts

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alone rarely tell us how a moment actually felt

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to live through. That's very true. If you really

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want to understand the ground level anxieties,

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the contradictions and the raw, unpolished mood

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of the electorate during a specific era, how

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might future historians use commercial collaborative

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mixtapes like campaign to read between the lines

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of history? That is a fascinating question to

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sit with. Maybe the truest record of an era isn't

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found in the headlines, but in the audio polaroids

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we leave behind. I think you might be right.

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Thank you so much for joining us on this deep

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dive. Keep asking questions, keep looking closely

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at the media you consume, and we warmly encourage

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you to keep exploring the history hidden right

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there within your favorite playlists. See you

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next time.
