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Imagine you are standing in a field in rural

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Ireland, the late 19th century, and you're not

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alone out there. Who am I with? Standing right

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next to you is this highly educated man of science,

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maybe a physicist, someone who deeply understands

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electromagnetism, thermodynamics, all the cutting

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edge mechanics of the visible world at that time.

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Got it. So a real strict rationalist. Exactly.

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And you are both watching a woman hang her laundry

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on a line. Okay, seems normal enough. Right,

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but suddenly, without even a breath of wind,

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the clothes just lift off the rope. Whoa. Yeah,

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they don't just blow away, they actually levitate.

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Like straight up? Deliberately up into the sky,

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just hovering there against all the laws of gravity.

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I can imagine the physicist is having an absolute

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meltdown. Oh, completely. He's utterly baffled,

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frantically trying to, I don't know, calculate

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invisible wind currents or some kind of freak

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magnetic anomaly. Naturally. Because his worldview

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demands a physical explanation. Right. But then,

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the local farmer who is standing on your other

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side, he just nods. It's not surprised at all.

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Completely unfazed. And he just says, ah, the

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fairies are taking them. They'll bring them back.

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That is amazing. And a few minutes later, the

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clothes gently float back down and just drape

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themselves right back over the line. You know,

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it really is the ultimate collision of worlds

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right there. It really is. You have this rigid,

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newly minted scientific method crashing head

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first into a belief system that is, well, literally

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thousands of years old. Yeah. And the profound

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question that comes out of that is, who actually

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has the better vocabulary to explain what just

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happened? Welcome to the Deep Dive. We've got

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a massive stack of source material sitting right

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here on the desk in front of us today. We really

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do. And today, we are taking you, our listener,

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completely off the edge of the physical map.

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We're leaving the visible world behind. We are

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looking at a foundational, honestly paradigm

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-shifting text by an Oxford scholar named W .Y.

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Evans -Wentz. It's titled, The Fairy Faith in

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Celtic Countries. Yes. And I have to say, this

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isn't just a book of folklore. Not at all. It's

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a meticulously documented collection of historical

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records, ethnographic field notes, interviews

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with seers. And surprisingly, a whole lot of

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very intense modern scientific parallels. Which

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is the craziest part. But we need to establish

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our ground rules right away, don't we? We really

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do. Because when you hear the word fairy today,

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your brain immediately defaults to a very specific

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commercialized image. Oh, absolutely. I mean,

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we think of Tinkerbell. Right. We think of animated

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movies, little magical beings with wands granting

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wishes to princesses. Or maybe the Tooth Fairy.

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Exactly. It's entirely relegated to the realm

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of children's bedtime stories. Which is a modern

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tragedy, really. Because the original ancient

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Celtic fairy faith is something entirely different.

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It's completely alien to that modern Disney concept.

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It is. And our mission today is not to recount

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fairy tales. We are going to analyze this massive

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body of evidence to see if the ancient Carchetic

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belief system actually aligns with modern scientific

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theories. Specifically theories of consciousness,

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right? Right. Yes. theories of consciousness,

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psychical research, and the worldwide concept

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of animism. So we are essentially putting the

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fairy realm under a microscope. Or honestly more

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like a psychological MRI. I like that because

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if you look closely at the notes Evans -Wentz

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compiled, these ancient traditions aren't just

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quaint superstitions. No, they appear to hold

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a highly sophisticated pre -scientific understanding

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of the human mind. And the survival of the soul.

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Right. And the invisible forces of nature. They

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might have been describing quantum mechanics,

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non -local consciousness, and advanced psychology

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centuries before we even had the sterile clinical

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vocabulary to talk about those things. They were

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trying to explain the unexplainable, the genuinely

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anomalous phenomena of human existence. Exactly,

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but they were doing it using the language and

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the cultural symbols available to them at the

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time. What is staggering to me as we go through

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this material is how closely their ultimate conclusions

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map onto the absolute cutting edge question.

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that physicists and neurologists are asking right

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now. It's eerie how well it aligns. Okay, let's

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unpack this. Where should we start? Let's start

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by completely dismantling the modern definition

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of fairyland, because Evans -Wentz makes it very

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clear that the ancient Celts were not talking

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about a physical place. No, they were not. So

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what actually was the fairy faith to them? Well,

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to the Celts, the fairy faith is, at its core,

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A Doctrine of Souls. A Doctrine of Souls, okay.

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Right. Fairyland, which the Irish refer to as

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Tir Na Nog, the Land of Youth, is not a geographical

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location. So I can't just find it on a map? No.

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You cannot sail a boat westward and eventually

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hit its shores. You can't dig a hole deep enough

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into a green hill to find a subterranean city.

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Right. It is entirely a subjective, super normal

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state of consciousness. So it's an inner state,

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not an outer physical dimension. It is an inner

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state, yes. But we have to be really careful

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here not to equate inner with imaginary. That's

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a huge distinction. It is. Because to the seers

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who interacted with this state, it is as real,

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if not realer, than the physical world. And the

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beings that inhabit this state of consciousness,

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they're called the side here, right? Pronounced

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she, yes. Or the Tuatha de Danann. Okay, and

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the Irish Seers, the people who claim to have

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this second sight, they describe them in a very

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specific, almost paradoxical way. They do. They

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say these beings are like mortals. but they are

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not mortals. What does that mean exactly? Well,

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to our objective physical world, they are completely

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invisible and immaterial. You can't touch them.

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Right. But to the subjective world, to the realm

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of pure consciousness, they are fully conscious,

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living, intelligent entities. They really blur

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the lines between psychology and physics, don't

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they? They absolutely do. They are like this

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invisible architecture holding up the world.

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Now, obviously for the last hundred years or

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so, anthropologists have tried very hard to explain

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this away. Of course. That's what academia does.

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Right. And when I first started reading through

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the history of how academics tackled this, I

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assumed what most people assume. Which is what?

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That early humans just made up stories to explain

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things they didn't understand. Like, I don't

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know why lightning strikes, so there must be

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a giant lightning spirit. Ah, yeah. You're describing

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what scholars call the naturalistic theory. Okay.

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It was the dominant academic explanation for

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a long, long time. The idea is that primitive

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people just personified nature. Because they

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lacked science. Exactly. They didn't understand

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why rivers flowed, or why the wind howled at

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night, or why the seasons changed. So they just

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invented nature spirits to fill in the gaps.

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And to be fair to those anthropologists, the

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environment absolutely does shape how the fairies

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are described. Oh, completely. Evans -Wenz points

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this out brilliantly in the text. He does. He

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compares the descriptions of fairies in Ireland

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to those in Scotland, and the contrast is wild.

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It gets night and day. Like in the gentle green

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rolling hills of Kwaitamara in Ireland, the good

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people are described as beautiful, gentle, and

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happy. They play music and dance in the moonlight.

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Yeah, exactly. It's very pastoral. But have you

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traveled to the Scottish Highlands? Oh, man.

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It's a completely different vibe. It really is.

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The landscape there is rugged. The locks are

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deep and dark. The weather is just brutal and

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unforgiving. And the fairies there reflect that

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perfectly. They are terrifying. You have these

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terrible water kelpies that drown trash. and

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a much dreaded spirit host that moves violently

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through the air at night, literally sweeping

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people away. Right, so the naturalistic theory

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successfully proves that the physical environment

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colors the belief. It dictates the mood of the

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fairies. Okay, that makes sense. But Evans -Wentz

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demonstrates why this theory ultimately fails.

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Why is that? Because it completely fails to explain

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the actual origin of the belief. Oh, I see. It

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doesn't explain why a person walking home at

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night actually hallucinates or experiences a

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vivid interaction with a conscious conversational

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entity. Right. Personifying a thunderstorm doesn't

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explain why a farmer has a three -hour conversation

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with a glowing figure in his barn. Exactly. The

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naturalistic theory only explains the clothes

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the entity is wearing. So to speak. It doesn't

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explain the entity itself. OK, so if they aren't

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just metaphors for the weather, what about the

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physical evidence? What physical evidence? Well,

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I remember reading about archaeologists finding

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these tiny ancient underground dwellings and

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tiny flint arrowheads across the British Isles.

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Ah, yes. Didn't some scholars argue that fairies

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were just a folk memory of an actual historical

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race of tiny humans? Like a prehistoric pygmy

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race. Yeah. Like a race that got driven underground

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when the taller, more aggressive Celts arrived.

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Yes, that is the pygmy or ethnological theory.

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It was heavily championed by a Victorian scholar

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named David McRitchie. It's an incredibly seductive

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theory, honestly, because it feels so grounded.

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It gives you something physical to point to.

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Right, we have tiny arrowheads, we have legends

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of little people hiding in mounds. It seems like

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a perfect match. It does seem perfect, until

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you actually look at the text. Right, because

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Evans -Wince just tears it apart. Completely

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dismantles it. The pygmy theory falls apart the

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moment you zoom out and look at the global evidence.

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How so? Well, there are places in the world where

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we know definitively through fossil records and

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archaeology that no pygmy race ever existed.

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Like certain reasons of North America, for instance.

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And yet the indigenous people living in those

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exact regions have identical deeply entrenched

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beliefs in tiny magical nature spirits that live

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in rocks and streams. Oh wow, so the physical

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explanation doesn't hold up globally. Exactly.

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You see the exact same beliefs among the Inuit

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and the Sami people in the Arctic living in environments

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that make the whole hidden cave -dweller historical

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narrative physically impossible. Not to mention

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the actual abilities of the fairies in the lore.

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Right. If I'm remembering my history correctly,

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being a short human who hides in a cave doesn't

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automatically grant you the power to turn invisible.

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Or fly through the air. Or read minds or paralyze

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a cow with a single glance. A physical pygmy

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simply cannot do those things. That is exactly

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the point Evans -Wentz makes. The legends explicitly

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describe a non -human, shape -shifting, ethereal

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race. So the scholars were just cherry -picking.

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Yes. They grabbed the small size detail because

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it fit their physical evidence and completely

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ignored the overwhelming descriptions of supernatural

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power. Okay, so if they aren't metaphors for

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nature and they definitely aren't physical pygmies,

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were they just a distorted memory of the druids?

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The druids. Yeah, I mean, the druids were these

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powerful, mysterious priests who dealt in magic

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and the unseen. Could the peasants have just

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exaggerated their memories of them over the centuries?

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You know, the druid theory is perhaps the easiest

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one to dismiss. Really? Why? While the druids

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were indeed powerful figures who performed rituals

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and claimed to interact with the unseen, the

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folklore is very, very careful to distinguish

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between them. So the lore doesn't mix them up?

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Not at all. The legends explicitly state that

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the fairies are a distinct non -human race, often

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considered older and far more ethereal than the

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human priests. Oh, I see. The druids were the

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practitioners who communicated with the unseen.

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They were not the unseen beings themselves. Right.

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Suggesting fairies are just remembered. Druids

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is like suggesting a modern radio broadcaster

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is actually the radio wave itself. That's a great

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analogy. It completely confuses the medium with

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the message. OK, that makes sense. So that leaves

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us with the last major academic excuse. The mythological

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theory. Right. This is the idea that fairies

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are just the old grand pagan gods who got demoted

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over time. Yes, as Christianity swept through

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the Celtic lands. Right. The mighty gods of the

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Tuatha de Danann were supposedly watered down

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into little sprites hiding in the woods just

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to survive the theological shift. And out of

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all the conventional theories, This one actually

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holds the most significant grain of historical

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truth. Oh, it does. Yes. If you track the names,

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many of the fairy queens and kings and later

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Celtic lore are the exact same names as the old

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pagan gods of pre -Christian Ireland. OK, so

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there is a linguistic connection there. Definitely.

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But Evans Wentz says it just kicks the can down

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the road. How do you mean? Well, it's a linguistic

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explanation, not a psychological one. If fairies

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are just diminished gods, we still have to ask

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the root question. Which is, why did human beings

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believe in those gods in the first place? Exactly.

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What was the original experiential spark? More

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importantly, the mythological theory entirely

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dismisses the lived experiences of the Percipients.

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The people who are actually seeing them. Yes.

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the people living in the 19th and 20th centuries

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who were still claiming to interact with them

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on the daily basis. Right, because when a peasant

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wakes up in the middle of the night and sees

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a luminous figure standing at the foot of their

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bed, they aren't having an academic encounter

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with a diminished mythological concept. Exactly.

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They're having a direct, visceral, sometimes

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absolutely terrifying psychological experience.

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So all four of these academic theories, naturalistic,

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pygmy, druid, and mythological, They only explain

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the cultural clothing of the fairies. They explain

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the shape of the container, but they completely

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ignore the liquid inside it. Which brings Evans

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-Wentz to the only theory that encompasses all

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the data, both historical and modern. The psychological

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theory. Yes. This theory posits that a real unseen

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psychological germ or object exists in the world

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waiting to be acted upon. Okay, unpack that for

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me. What is a psychological germ? It means there

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is a genuine external phenomenon happening in

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human consciousness. A real psychical force.

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Yeah. And the human mind then dresses that force

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up in the imagery of nature. or ancient races

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or old gods, just to make sense of it. Okay,

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I have to push back here. Go for it. Because

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I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the

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people actually experiencing this. Okay. If this

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is entirely a state of mind, if it's all just

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psychological... Why do people experience fairyland

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as an external objective world? That's the million

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dollar question. Like if I have a weird psychological

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feeling I say I feel anxious or I had a strange

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thought but these people don't say that. No they

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don't. They say I saw a physical being standing

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in my field or I heard music coming from that

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specific hill over there. If it's an internal

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state why is it violently thrust outward into

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the physical space? That is the crux of this

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entire investigation. And to understand it, we

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have to completely expand our definition of what

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constitutes reality. Because we're so used to

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measuring things. We are so trained to believe

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that if we can't measure it with a physical instrument,

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it simply doesn't exist. You know, I found an

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analogy while reading the text that really helped

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me wrap my head around this. Oh, what was it?

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Think of fairyland, like the dark matter of the

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psychological universe. Oh, I like where this

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is going. Right. In astrophysics, scientists

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cannot see dark matter. They can't look through

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a telescope and spot it. They can't capture it

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in a jar. It literally doesn't interact with

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light. But they know it's there. They know, mathematically,

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that it is absolutely real. How? because they

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can observe its massive gravitational pull on

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the visible universe. They can see galaxies bending

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and moving in ways that definitively prove a

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massive invisible force is there. That is a phenomenal

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way to conceptualize it. Right. In the same way

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we can't see fairyland with our physical eyes,

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a biologist can't like dissect a fairy on a table.

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No. But if we look at human history, we can observe

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the massive gravitational pull this unseen force

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has on human culture. folklore and on the individual

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minds of the people who experience it. It has

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a profound weight to it. It exerts a force that

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actively bends human behavior and perception.

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It is a force acting upon human consciousness

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from the outside. And if fairyland is indeed

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this invisible dimension of consciousness, this

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psychological dark matter, it leads us to a staggering

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realization. Which is? If this was just an isolated

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weird thing that happened in a few counties in

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Ireland and Scotland, we could easily write it

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off as local superstition. But it's not. No,

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it's not. Which brings us to the global scale

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of this phenomenon. Right. If this is a real

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invisible dimension of consciousness, How did

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human beings across the entire globe, separated

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by oceans and thousands of years of history,

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come up with the exact same framework to describe

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it? The sheer universality of this is what makes

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it impossible to ignore. It's everywhere. The

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Celtic fairy faith is not an anomaly. It is just

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one branch. of a massive worldwide tree of animism.

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We should probably define animism for a second

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because it's a word that gets thrown around a

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lot in anthropology, but it's vital to understand

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the worldview here. Animism isn't just believing

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in ghosts. No. It's the core belief that the

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entire universe is alive. Everything. Rocks,

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rivers, trees, animals, the wind itself has a

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living conscious soul inside it. Right. To an

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animist, the universe isn't just a collection

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of dead matter that accidentally bumps into itself.

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It is a crowded, breathing, conscious ecosystem,

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both visible and invisible. And when you look

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at the world through that animistic lens, you

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find the exact same entities everywhere. Evans

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once draws evidence from completely disconnected

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cultures. He does. Look at the Orunta people

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of Central Australia, for example. They were

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geographically isolated for millennia. And what

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do they believe? They believe in what they call

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the Alchiringa beings. Alchiringa? Yes. These

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are ancestral, invisible spirits that inhabit

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specific rocks, trees, and caves. They control

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the natural elements, and they occasionally interact

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with or even take human children. Wow. If you

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translate the details, it is a one -to -one match

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with the Celtic city. And it doesn't stop there.

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In Asia, the Siamese have the Phi Spirits, legions

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of minor deities living in forests and ethereal

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spaces capable of good and bad, constantly interacting

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with the physical world. And Native American

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tribes across the continent have deeply ingrained

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beliefs in the Unagamsuk, or similar entities.

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Little spirits inhabiting rocks, streams, and

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forests. Exactly. Even in ancient Greece, centuries

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before the Celts were recording their myths,

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the Greek peasants believed in nymphs and nereids.

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They left offerings for them, they feared offending

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them, and they claimed to see them in the woods

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in the exact same way a 19th century Irish farmer

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claimed to see a fairy. The whole world is tuning

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in to the exact same frequency. But here's a

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detail that always bothered me, and I was so

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glad the text actually addressed it. What's that?

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Why are they so often described as tiny? If they

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are these powerful, god -like forces of consciousness,

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the actual architects of nature, why are fairies,

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globally, so often depicted as being three inches?

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as tall or the size of a small child? The answer

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to that lies in the mechanics of ancient neurology

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and primitive psychology. OK, break that down

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for me. Well, before we had modern science, before

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we understood the brain stem or synapses, ancient

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peoples tried to conceptualize human life. They

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were trying to figure out how we work. Right.

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They asked, what is the thing inside me that

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animates this meat and bone? What is the soul?

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And what did they come up with? Globally, the

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most common way to conceptualize this invisible

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animator was to imagine it as a miniature replica

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of the person. Oh, like a mannequin or a homunculus.

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Exactly. A tiny, ethereal version of you driving

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the vehicle of your physical body. That's wild.

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Sometimes it was described as being three inches

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high. Sometimes it was envisioned as a tiny pygmy

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with butterfly wings. Wait, really? Is that where

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the classic fairy wings come from? Yes. Remarkably,

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that is exactly where we get the enduring image

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of fairy wings. I had no idea. Because fairies

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were so often equated with the souls of the dead,

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or with the animating spirits of nature, they

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were envisioned in this exact same form, as tiny,

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ethereal beings. So the smallness isn't meant

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to be taken as a literal physical measurement.

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No, it is a psychological symbol the soul. That

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is fascinating. It's literally the visual language

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of the soul manifesting as a tiny being. Yes.

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But then the text goes into some really speculative

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esoteric territory to explain how these beings

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take shape, doesn't it? It does. It brings in

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the alchemical and mystical theories of the Middle

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Ages. Specifically thinkers like Paracelsus and

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the Rosicrucians. Right. These Renaissance thinkers

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took these ancient global animistic beliefs and

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tried to systematize them scientifically. They

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were trying to categorize the unseen. Exactly.

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They categorized these unseen pygmy -like beings

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as elementals. They believed that the invisible

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universe was structured just like the visible

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one governed by the four clouds. elements. So

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they broke them down mathematically. You have

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the gnomes, the elementals who inhabit and govern

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the earth, the silphs, the elementals of the

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air, the undines who govern water, and the salamanders

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who inhabit fire. And Paracelsus made a crucial

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argument about the biology, for lack of a better

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word, of these elementals. What was his theory?

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He argued they were not purely physical, like

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a rock or a dog, but they were also not purely

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spiritual, like God. So they were somewhere in

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the middle. Yes, they existed in a liminal half

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material state. They possessed elastic ethereal

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bodies that could actually change shape. Oh wow.

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And crucially Paracelsus stated that their shape

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changed based on the mind of the person perceiving

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them. Okay, here's where it gets really interesting.

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Because that is the master key to this whole

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thing. How so? Because that perfectly explains

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the social psychology at play in the source material.

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Ah, I see what you're saying. I was laughing

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reading some of these accounts because whenever

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people see fairies, the fairies always look and

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act exactly like the people who believe in them.

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They really do. Like the Irish fairies are seen

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playing hurling, holding wakes, and listening

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to bagpipes. Right. But the Breton fairies in

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France spin wool and weave garments. They have

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kings, queens and standing armies completely

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mirroring the feudal systems of Europe. So if

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an elemental has an elastic body that responds

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to the mind, are we just projecting our own societal

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structures onto this blank canvas of the invisible

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world? We are just dressing them up in our own

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cultural clothes. Are we? The text confirms your

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suspicion entirely. Yes, there is massive, undeniable

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cultural projection happening. So the bagpipes

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aren't real. The social structures, the clothing,

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the specific types of music, the fairies play.

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That is all the cultural clothing woven by the

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human imagination. OK, so it is just projection.

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But, and this is a massive distinction, Evans

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-Wentz insists we look past that clothing. What

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do you mean? What's fascinating here is that

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if you strip away the bagpipes, the hurling matches,

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the tiny butterfly wings, and the feudal kingships,

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you are not left with nothing. You are left with

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the raw data. Exactly. You are left with an unexplained

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interaction between a human mind and an external

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invisible stimulus. So the cultural projection

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is just how the brain desperately tries to translate

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an encounter with something it fundamentally

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cannot comprehend. Yes. The brain sees an invisible

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force, panics, and overlays a familiar image,

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like a tiny man playing a bagpipe, just to process

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the data safely. So if we strip away all that

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cultural clothing, we are left with a core set

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of unexplained raw phenomena. The raw data. Right.

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And this is where the deep dive gets really clinical.

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Because how does modern science handle the raw

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data that absolutely cannot be dismissed as mere

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imagination or cultural projection? Well, in

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any rigorous scientific experiment, When you

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account for all known variables, when you strip

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away the fraud, the delusion, the cultural bias,

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and simple optical illusions, if there is something

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left over, a stubborn piece of data that defies

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explanation, you call it the X quantity. The

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X quantity, the unexplained residuum. Exactly.

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And in the fairy faith, this X quantity is incredibly

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persistent, well documented, and frankly terrifying

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to the scientific establishment. Because we're

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talking about things like collective hallucinations,

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right? Yeah. Where multiple people standing in

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a field together see the exact same impossible

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thing at the exact same time. Or the movement

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of physical objects without any physical contact,

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like the laundry you mentioned at the very beginning.

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Right. We're talking about supernatural wrappings,

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noises, and poltergeist activity. This is where

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rural folklore violently collides with rigid,

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psychical research. And Evans -Wentz doesn't

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rely on local gossip for this, does he? Not at

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all. He brings in the heavy hitters of science

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to look at the X quantity. We're not talking

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about fringe theorists here. No, we're talking

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about pioneering foundational scientists of the

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late 19th and early 20th centuries. Like Sir

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William Crookes. Yes, a brilliant chemist and

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physicist who discovered the element thallium.

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And Sir Oliver Lodge, who was a pioneer in radio

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and electromagnetic theory. Right. The French

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astronomer, Camille Flammarion. the highly respected

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anthropologist Andrew Lang. These were serious

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men. Very serious. Men who applied rigorous skeptical

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scientific methods to the unseen. Let's look

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at some of the specific cases they investigated.

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Because they read exactly like fairy tales, but

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they are sworn documented evidence in courtrooms

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and laboratories. Let's hear one. Take the events

00:25:40.539 --> 00:25:43.119
at Sidville, France in the mid -19th century.

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Oh, the Seidel phenomena is a classic case. What

00:25:46.180 --> 00:25:49.329
exactly happened there? Well, In a parish house

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surrounded by reputable witnesses, including

00:25:52.250 --> 00:25:54.690
a magistrate, a priest, and local officials,

00:25:55.809 --> 00:25:58.309
impossible things happened. Like what? There

00:25:58.309 --> 00:26:00.789
were documented instances where heavy pillows

00:26:00.789 --> 00:26:03.829
and coverlets floated away from a bed where children

00:26:03.829 --> 00:26:06.109
were actively trying to sleep. Just floated away?

00:26:06.509 --> 00:26:09.309
Yes. Furniture in the house moves violently across

00:26:09.309 --> 00:26:12.279
the room without anyone touching it. There were

00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.220
intelligent knocking sounds that would actually

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respond to questions. And it's not just France.

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There's the story from Ireland of a woman named

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Mrs. Margaret Quinn, which is where I got the

00:26:21.220 --> 00:26:23.480
intro to this deep dive. Ah, the laundry story.

00:26:23.619 --> 00:26:25.599
Yeah. She was hanging her clothes on a line,

00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.779
and suddenly the clothes lifted off the line

00:26:27.779 --> 00:26:30.200
and floated away into the air. Right. And the

00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.460
fascinating part isn't just the levitation, it's

00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:35.200
the reaction of the crowd. How did they react?

00:26:35.259 --> 00:26:38.150
Yeah. The people standing around didn't panic.

00:26:38.269 --> 00:26:40.869
They didn't scream about demons or witches. They

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just casually said, God bless the good people.

00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:45.309
They will bring them back. Because it was just

00:26:45.309 --> 00:26:47.869
a fact of life for them. Exactly. And sure enough,

00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:51.589
the clothes slowly floated back down to the line.

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Now, when a modern physicist investigates phenomena

00:26:54.710 --> 00:26:57.549
like this, they use terms like telekinesis, or

00:26:57.549 --> 00:27:00.869
they hypothesize the actions of discarnate intelligences.

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They use very sterile language. But to the Celtic

00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:07.299
peasant, This is just the seed at work. It's

00:27:07.299 --> 00:27:10.079
the exact same phenomenon, the exact same X quantity

00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.019
just viewed through two different linguistic

00:27:12.019 --> 00:27:14.799
lenses. One uses sterile Greek and Latin roots.

00:27:15.099 --> 00:27:17.700
The other uses ancient mythology. Precisely.

00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:20.160
And then there's the concept of telepathy. Right.

00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.819
The idea that a mind can communicate with another

00:27:22.819 --> 00:27:25.400
mind across physical space without speaking.

00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.059
I always like to think of telepathy like a biological

00:27:28.059 --> 00:27:29.799
radio transmitter. That's a good way to look

00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.640
at it. If the human brain acts as a transmitter.

00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.859
capable of sending a telepathic stimulus or a

00:27:35.859 --> 00:27:38.799
thought to another human brain, which these psychical

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.640
researchers were actively running experiments

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on, could an entirely non -human invisible intelligence

00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.000
broadcast on that exact same frequency? That

00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:50.779
is the exact hypothesis proposed by researchers

00:27:50.779 --> 00:27:54.019
like Sir Oliver Lodge. Really? Yes. His work

00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.740
in early radio technology deeply informed his

00:27:56.740 --> 00:28:00.440
view of the mind. How so? If we accept the premise

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.119
that human minds can interact invisibly across

00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.660
space, emitting and receiving signals, there

00:28:05.660 --> 00:28:08.299
is zero logical reason to assume that only human

00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:10.799
minds exist in that invisible spectrum. Oh, wow.

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.980
If the radio waves are there, why assume we are

00:28:12.980 --> 00:28:15.390
the only ones broadcasting? Exactly. But wait,

00:28:15.509 --> 00:28:17.569
I have a question about this. How do we differentiate

00:28:17.569 --> 00:28:20.609
between a normal, mundane hallucination like,

00:28:20.809 --> 00:28:23.049
I ate something bad, I have a high fever, and

00:28:23.049 --> 00:28:25.269
I suddenly see a pink elephant in my room, and

00:28:25.269 --> 00:28:27.869
what the Celts call the second sight, or an ecstatic,

00:28:27.869 --> 00:28:30.289
genuine vision of a fairy? That is a crucial

00:28:30.289 --> 00:28:32.750
distinction, and the psychical researchers drew

00:28:32.750 --> 00:28:35.730
a very hard line here. Where is the line? A normal

00:28:35.730 --> 00:28:38.390
hallucination is entirely generated from within.

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It is a visualized image pulled from your own

00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.319
memory or subconscious due to a physiological

00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.700
glitch. Like a fever dream. Yes. Your brain misfires,

00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:50.240
maybe due to illness or exhaustion, and projects

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.500
an image outward. But the researchers argue that

00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:56.400
a genuine vision, the second sight of a natural

00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.099
seer, is not generated internally. It's not a

00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:01.930
misfire. No. It is triggered by an outside force.

00:29:02.269 --> 00:29:03.950
So it's the difference between my television

00:29:03.950 --> 00:29:06.890
glitching and showing random static versus my

00:29:06.890 --> 00:29:08.869
television suddenly picking up a crystal clear

00:29:08.869 --> 00:29:11.089
broadcast from a hidden station I didn't even

00:29:11.089 --> 00:29:14.369
know existed. Precisely. The genuine hallucination

00:29:14.369 --> 00:29:17.390
of a phantom or a fairy is a telepathic or psychical

00:29:17.390 --> 00:29:19.589
stimulus acting upon your nervous apparatus from

00:29:19.589 --> 00:29:22.710
the outside. It is a real external force interacting

00:29:22.710 --> 00:29:24.849
with human consciousness, forcing your brain

00:29:24.849 --> 00:29:28.470
to process an image. Yes. The delusion and imposter

00:29:28.470 --> 00:29:31.240
theory. The lazy academic idea that everyone

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:32.980
who has ever seen a fairy is either lying for

00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:35.359
attention or clinically insane simply fails to

00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:38.059
account for the sheer volume of collective verifiable

00:29:38.059 --> 00:29:40.680
phenomena. It's intellectually dishonest to just

00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:44.099
yell fraud at everything that breaks your scientific

00:29:44.099 --> 00:29:48.819
model. It really is. To receive these broadcasts

00:29:48.819 --> 00:29:51.740
from the unseen world, to tune your biological

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:55.200
radio to the fairy frequency, your mind usually

00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.640
has to be in a highly receptive altered state.

00:29:57.900 --> 00:29:59.579
You don't usually see a fairy while you're doing

00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:01.500
your taxes or chopping wood in broad daylight.

00:30:01.779 --> 00:30:04.019
No, you see them at twilight or in the moments

00:30:04.019 --> 00:30:06.740
between waking and sleeping. Right. And this

00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:09.900
leads us to the profound connection between fairyland

00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:12.539
and the architecture of human consciousness itself.

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Because the state of mind of the person experiencing

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.609
this is just as important as the phenomenon itself.

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Absolutely. One of the most consistent details

00:30:21.329 --> 00:30:23.490
in all fairy lore, and frankly one of the most

00:30:23.490 --> 00:30:26.349
existentially terrifying, is the massive distortion

00:30:26.349 --> 00:30:29.490
of time. The time dilation. Yes. You read these

00:30:29.490 --> 00:30:31.650
stories of a mortal wandering into a fairy ring,

00:30:31.789 --> 00:30:33.650
they hear beautiful music, they go inside, they

00:30:33.650 --> 00:30:35.769
dance for what feels like maybe an hour or two.

00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:38.329
And then? Then they walk back out, and a hundred

00:30:38.329 --> 00:30:40.650
years have passed in the physical world. Everyone

00:30:40.650 --> 00:30:43.220
they know is gone. Their friends are dead. Their

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:45.480
house is a ruin. They are a complete stranger

00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.839
in the future. Or, conversely, they think they've

00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.920
been taken away for years, enduring lifetimes

00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.859
of labor in fairyland, and they wake up under

00:30:54.859 --> 00:30:57.299
a bush and it's only been five minutes. And again,

00:30:57.500 --> 00:30:59.359
Evans -Wentz points out that this time dilation

00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.799
is not just a convenient fairy tale trope used

00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.519
to create drama. No, it is a well -documented

00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.500
psychological phenomena. He provides intense

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:09.920
scientific parallels from dream psychology to

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.740
show that The human mind naturally does this,

00:31:13.099 --> 00:31:15.240
right? He does. The example that really blew

00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.460
my mind was Thomas de Quincy. Ah, the famous

00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:21.720
19th century author. Yes, the guy who wrote Confessions

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:24.880
of an English Opium Eater. He recorded having

00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.859
these profound opium -induced dreams where he

00:31:27.859 --> 00:31:30.039
literally lived out 60 entire years within a

00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.579
single night's sleep. 60 years in one night.

00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:35.690
He experienced the passage of every single day,

00:31:35.890 --> 00:31:38.869
the aging process, the sprawling emotional weight

00:31:38.869 --> 00:31:41.970
of an entire lifetime, all while his physical

00:31:41.970 --> 00:31:44.730
body lay motionless in bed for eight hours. And

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:47.009
there are documented clinical cases beyond drug

00:31:47.009 --> 00:31:49.390
use, too. Like what? He cites a man named Huna

00:31:49.390 --> 00:31:52.789
who fell into a magnetic sleep. A magnetic sleep.

00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:55.430
What's that? What modern medicine might call

00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:59.450
a deep hypnotic coma or a cataleptic state. He

00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:01.950
fell asleep in January and finally woke up in

00:32:01.950 --> 00:32:04.509
May. Oh my goodness. And he genuinely believed

00:32:04.509 --> 00:32:06.869
he had only lain down to rest the day before.

00:32:07.549 --> 00:32:09.710
The intervening months simply did not exist for

00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:12.930
him. Time just stopped. Or consider the famous

00:32:12.930 --> 00:32:15.609
Cirrus of Prevorst, a German woman who spent

00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:18.990
years in a deep trance state, experiencing massive

00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:22.220
spans of time as a single continuous day. So

00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:24.759
when a Celtic farmer claims they were taken by

00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:26.920
the fairies into the hills, it aligns perfectly

00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:29.180
with what clinical psychologists call trance

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:32.099
states, somnambulism or states and ecstasy. What

00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.319
does that actually mean mechanically? It means

00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.220
the consciousness is perceiving objects, experiencing

00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:39.900
vivid events, and processing time completely

00:32:39.900 --> 00:32:42.000
independently of the physical nerve apparatus.

00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.339
So the physical brain and the ticking clock are

00:32:44.339 --> 00:32:47.079
entirely bypassed. If we connect this to the

00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.440
bigger philosophical picture, it suggests that

00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.559
consciousness is not entirely bound by the physical

00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:55.460
body. Or by linear ticking time. Right. In a

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.660
trance, the consciousness steps outside the normal

00:32:58.660 --> 00:33:02.180
steady flow of physical time and enters the subjective

00:33:02.180 --> 00:33:05.059
fluid time of the fairy realm. The fairy realm

00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:07.880
is timeless because consciousness itself, when

00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.480
freed from the physical brain, is timeless. Exactly.

00:33:10.500 --> 00:33:12.339
But I have to push back here. Okay, what's bothering

00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:15.319
you? We've been talking about this in very clinical,

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.359
almost peaceful, academic terms, dreams, trances,

00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:21.799
time dilation. Right. But what about the dark

00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.279
side of this? Because fairy folklore is incredibly

00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.859
dark. It definitely is. What about the changelings?

00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.920
How does this psychological framework explain

00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.160
the very sinister, very prevalent belief that

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.460
fairies will steal a healthy human baby from

00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:38.900
its crib or steal a healthy adult. Right. And

00:33:38.900 --> 00:33:41.779
leave behind a withered, sick, evil little imp

00:33:41.779 --> 00:33:43.880
in their place because that isn't just a dream.

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.079
No, it's a nightmare. That is a physical, horrific

00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:48.099
reality where a mother looks at her child and

00:33:48.099 --> 00:33:50.339
genuinely says, this is a monster. This is not

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:52.819
my baby. The changeling belief is undoubtedly

00:33:52.819 --> 00:33:55.619
the darkest, most tragic and most complex part

00:33:55.619 --> 00:33:57.960
of the fairy faith. How does Evans -Wentz handle

00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.240
it? He tackles it head on with incredible empathy

00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:06.180
and scientific rigor. First, he immediately dismisses

00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:09.400
the old sociological theories. Which ones? The

00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.199
idea that this is just a folk memory of ancient

00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.300
rival tribes kidnapping children, or a memory

00:34:15.300 --> 00:34:17.719
of ancient human sacrifice. Oh, I've heard those

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.099
theories. While those brutal things may have

00:34:20.099 --> 00:34:22.380
happened historically, they don't explain the

00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.780
psychological terror of the changeling. The belief

00:34:24.780 --> 00:34:27.219
that the physical body is still there, but the

00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:31.280
person inside is gone. Exactly. Instead, he connects

00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.219
the changeling belief to a deeply scientific

00:34:34.219 --> 00:34:37.369
cross -cultural phenomenon. Demon possession.

00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:39.190
Wait, I need you to explain that because demon

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:41.630
possession doesn't sound like a scientific phenomenon

00:34:41.630 --> 00:34:43.710
to me. I know, the term is loaded. But in the

00:34:43.710 --> 00:34:46.130
realm of 19th and early 20th century psychology

00:34:46.130 --> 00:34:48.929
and anthropology, it was a recognized category

00:34:48.929 --> 00:34:51.389
of profound mental shift. Okay, give me an example.

00:34:51.769 --> 00:34:54.570
Evans Wentz cites extensive practices from China,

00:34:55.010 --> 00:34:56.969
where they kept detailed records of individuals

00:34:56.969 --> 00:34:59.809
whose personalities suddenly, violently, and

00:34:59.809 --> 00:35:01.809
permanently changed. And in modern psychology.

00:35:02.059 --> 00:35:04.179
We have different terms for this today. We might

00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:06.780
call it dissociative identity disorder. Ah, okay.

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.579
Or we might recognize it as a sudden severe pathological

00:35:10.579 --> 00:35:13.579
illness like the catastrophic onset of childhood

00:35:13.579 --> 00:35:16.059
schizophrenia. Or some kind of devastating form

00:35:16.059 --> 00:35:19.099
of severe epilepsy or paralysis. Exactly. Oh,

00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:22.739
I see. So a healthy, vibrant child suddenly develops

00:35:22.739 --> 00:35:26.300
a severe neurological condition. Overnight. Overnight,

00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.719
they stop speaking. They begin having violent

00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.860
seizures. Their physical body wastes away due

00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:34.460
to an undiagnosed illness. And their previously

00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:37.380
sweet personality completely vanishes. Replaced

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:40.889
by screaming or catatonia? Right. And to a pre

00:35:40.889 --> 00:35:43.869
-scientific mind, without access to an MRI or

00:35:43.869 --> 00:35:46.369
a neurologist, the child they knew is literally

00:35:46.369 --> 00:35:48.969
entirely gone. That is so heartbreaking. The

00:35:48.969 --> 00:35:51.250
sudden onset of a severe disease is a traumatic

00:35:51.250 --> 00:35:53.369
psychological event for the family. But because

00:35:53.369 --> 00:35:55.329
the Celts view the entire world through the lens

00:35:55.329 --> 00:35:57.929
of animism, they are forced to interpret this

00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:01.210
neurological tragedy as a fairy abduction. The

00:36:01.210 --> 00:36:03.679
logic of their worldview demands it. They believe

00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:05.599
the healthy soul of the child has been pulled

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.599
out of the body and taken into the invisible

00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:11.159
realm, abducted by the city. Yes. And because

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.739
of the economy of nature in their minds, if a

00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:17.659
soul leaves a body, that body can't just be empty.

00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:20.800
Nature abhors a vacuum. Right. Another entity

00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.820
has to fill the void. So they believe a malicious,

00:36:24.219 --> 00:36:27.320
ancient, sick fairy spirit has possessed the

00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.739
vacant physical shell. Yes. The changeling is

00:36:30.739 --> 00:36:33.340
an attempt to make sense of inexplicable medical

00:36:33.340 --> 00:36:36.679
horror. It is a profound tragedy, but it reinforces

00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.079
a central tenet of the Celtic belief system,

00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.780
doesn't it? It does. The belief that the physical

00:36:41.780 --> 00:36:44.860
body is merely a vessel. It is a temporary meat

00:36:44.860 --> 00:36:47.440
suit, a conductor for consciousness. The body

00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.619
is not the person. Which is the perfect bridge

00:36:49.619 --> 00:36:52.360
to the final major concept of this deep dive.

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:54.639
Because if consciousness can temporarily leave

00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.360
the body to enter this timeless realm of fairyland

00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.699
during a trance, and if a soul can be swapped

00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:01.780
out of a body during an illness, what happens

00:37:01.780 --> 00:37:04.179
when the soul leaves permanently at death? This

00:37:04.179 --> 00:37:06.239
brings us to the esoteric heart of the fairy

00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.559
faith, the Celtic doctrine of rebirth or the

00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:12.219
evolution of the soul. This is where the text

00:37:12.219 --> 00:37:16.860
elevates from rural folklore into a grand, sweeping,

00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.780
cosmological framework. It reads less like peasant

00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.679
superstitions and more like speculative, theoretical

00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.679
physics. It really does. It blew my mind when

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.579
I read it. Why is that? Because the expert tradition

00:37:27.579 --> 00:37:30.059
among the Celts, the learned Seers, and the ancient

00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:33.960
Druidic lines, they viewed the universe in exactly

00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.440
the same way the ancient Greek philosophers like

00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.980
Plato did. Ah, the phenomenal versus the numinal

00:37:38.980 --> 00:37:41.889
world. Yes. They believed that the physical,

00:37:42.190 --> 00:37:44.590
visible world, the phenomenal world, is merely

00:37:44.590 --> 00:37:47.449
an effect. The cause of everything, the engine

00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:49.929
running the universe, is an invisible, numinal

00:37:49.929 --> 00:37:52.570
world. To use a classic analogy, the physical

00:37:52.570 --> 00:37:54.550
world is just the shadow cast on the wall of

00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:56.789
a cave. And the spiritual world, the invisible

00:37:56.789 --> 00:37:59.710
realm, is the fire casting the shadow. The cause

00:37:59.710 --> 00:38:02.309
is unseen, the effect is what we live in. And

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to explain how the soul navigates this, Evans

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-Wentz dives deeply into the Welsh bardas manuscripts.

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The bardas? What are those exactly? These are

00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:12.219
the preserved records of the ancient bardic and

00:38:12.219 --> 00:38:15.159
druidic teachings. They describe the entire universe

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as being structured into three distinct, massive

00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:20.519
circles of existence. Let's break those down

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because the mechanics here are fascinating. Let's

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do it. The outermost circle, encompassing absolutely

00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.190
everything, is Sagamp. This is the circle of

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infinity. It is the realm of the absolute, the

00:38:31.230 --> 00:38:34.210
uncreated. It is the realm of God alone. So no

00:38:34.210 --> 00:38:37.289
human can go there. No human, no fairy, no created

00:38:37.289 --> 00:38:39.769
soul can ever traverse it or even understand

00:38:39.769 --> 00:38:43.010
it. It's the ultimate, untouchable source code

00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:45.989
of the universe. Exactly. Then inside that infinite

00:38:45.989 --> 00:38:48.829
circle, you have the second circle. The circle

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of abrid. The circle of rebirth. Yes. This is

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the realm we are in right now. The physical world.

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It is the realm of physical existence, of matter,

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of suffering, of learning, and of a constant

00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.539
brutal cycle of life and death. The text specifically

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notes an incredible phrase about Abrid. It says

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that here, the dead are stronger than the living.

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Because in Abrid, the physical life is fleeting

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and weak, while the spiritual forces shaping

00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.699
it are eternal and powerful. And in Abrid, the

00:39:17.699 --> 00:39:20.679
soul is constantly returning, constantly reincarnating

00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.139
into the physical world to gather experience.

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Yes. And the soul doesn't just start out as a

00:39:25.659 --> 00:39:28.400
human being. The bardic doctrine is incredibly

00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.840
specific about this. Where does it start? It

00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:33.960
states that the primordial soul begins its journey

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in the lowest, most microscopic possible form.

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What they called a water animal keel. Right.

00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:42.440
A tiny organism at the bottom of the ocean. Wow.

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And through countless lifetimes of struggle,

00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.139
it slowly evolves upward, incarnating through

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the plant kingdom, then the animal kingdom, until

00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:53.719
it finally reaches humanity. So think about what

00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.039
this means. It sounds exactly like Darwinian

00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.380
evolution. It really does. But instead of just

00:39:58.380 --> 00:40:01.400
the physical, biological body evolving through

00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.239
natural selection and genetic mutation, it's

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the invisible spiritual soul evolving through

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conscious experience across millions of lifetimes.

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It is spiritual Darwinism. It is an evolutionary

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track for consciousness itself. And humanity

00:40:15.579 --> 00:40:18.389
is the crucial... dangerous turning point in

00:40:18.389 --> 00:40:20.989
this journey. Why dangerous? Because it is only

00:40:20.989 --> 00:40:23.429
in the human state that the evolving soul finally

00:40:23.429 --> 00:40:25.949
gains self -awareness and exercises free will.

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It finally becomes morally responsible for its

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actions. And if the human soul chooses well,

00:40:31.429 --> 00:40:33.690
if it learns from the suffering of abrid, it

00:40:33.690 --> 00:40:36.110
eventually graduates. It breaks the cycle of

00:40:36.110 --> 00:40:38.409
reincarnation and enters the third and final

00:40:38.409 --> 00:40:42.050
circle, Gwynvid. Gwynvid, the circle of liberty

00:40:42.050 --> 00:40:46.070
and perfection. a realm of pure, unhindered consciousness

00:40:46.070 --> 00:40:49.449
where suffering completely ceases. I love the

00:40:49.449 --> 00:40:52.130
analogy the text uses for this evolutionary process.

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Which one? It compares the migrating soul to

00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:57.369
a silkworm. Oh, right. A silkworm weaves a cocoon

00:40:57.369 --> 00:41:00.010
around itself, not randomly, but based on deeply

00:41:00.010 --> 00:41:03.340
acquired, inherited instincts, right? Yeah. In

00:41:03.340 --> 00:41:05.880
the exact same way, the indestructible soul monad,

00:41:06.019 --> 00:41:09.099
the core spark of consciousness, weaves a new

00:41:09.099 --> 00:41:12.239
physical body and a new ethereal body for its

00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.719
next stage of evolution. Based entirely on the

00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:16.719
instincts and experiences it gathered in its

00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.039
past life. Exactly. This profound cosmic architecture

00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.780
raises an incredibly important question for us

00:41:22.780 --> 00:41:26.139
today. What's that? How does this ancient, mystical,

00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.969
Celtic doctrine map onto the modern psychology

00:41:29.969 --> 00:41:32.670
and physics we've been discussing. Is there any

00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:35.889
modern equivalent to this? Evans Wentz points

00:41:35.889 --> 00:41:38.130
directly to William James for that. One of the

00:41:38.130 --> 00:41:40.889
brilliant founding fathers of modern psychology.

00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:44.389
Yes. James proposed a concept to explain human

00:41:44.389 --> 00:41:46.949
consciousness that sounds exactly like Celtic

00:41:46.949 --> 00:41:48.929
mysticism. What did he call it? He called it

00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:52.070
the mother sea or a universal reservoir of consciousness.

00:41:52.309 --> 00:41:55.190
The mother sea. James suggested that our individual

00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:58.650
isolated human minds are not separate self -contained

00:41:58.650 --> 00:42:00.670
islands. We aren't just batteries in our own

00:42:00.670 --> 00:42:02.989
little boxes. Right. Instead, we're all dipping

00:42:02.989 --> 00:42:05.460
into the exact same massive, invisible ocean

00:42:05.460 --> 00:42:07.579
of universal consciousness. I remember Joke used

00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:10.219
a brilliant spatial metaphor for this. The fence

00:42:10.219 --> 00:42:13.199
metaphor. He argued that the individual mind

00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.019
is just a temporary fence built within this infinite

00:42:16.019 --> 00:42:19.079
mother sea. And the fence exists to limit the

00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.780
flood of universal consciousness, allowing us

00:42:21.780 --> 00:42:24.019
to function in the physical world without being

00:42:24.019 --> 00:42:26.260
overwhelmed. Because if we let it all in, our

00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:29.340
brains would just break. Exactly. When the body

00:42:29.340 --> 00:42:32.659
dies, the fence is simply removed and the droplet

00:42:32.659 --> 00:42:34.920
of individual consciousness returns to the larger

00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.880
sea. Yes. And in the context of the fairy faith,

00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.940
this is the grand unifying theory. How so? It

00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:44.699
means that fairies, the elementals, human souls,

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.079
the spirits of the dead, they are all just individual

00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.179
units, different droplets of this universally

00:42:51.179 --> 00:42:54.880
diffused soul stuff or mana. So they're all made

00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.199
of the same material. Yes. Some droplets are

00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.760
heavily fenced in embodied in dense physical

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.239
human forms. Like us. And some droplets have

00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.619
lighter fences existing in the invisible, the

00:43:04.619 --> 00:43:07.539
elastic, ethereal forms of the ceta. But fundamentally,

00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:10.480
at their core, they are all the exact same substance.

00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.000
Which means the entire Celtic doctrine of rebirth

00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.460
and the existence of the fairy world is not just

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:18.280
a collection of random ghost stories. No, it

00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:21.380
is a highly elaborate, internally consistent

00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:24.579
philosophical framework designed to explain the

00:43:24.579 --> 00:43:26.460
journey of consciousness through the cosmos.

00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.880
The fairies are simply consciousness functioning

00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.300
in a different state. vibrating on a different

00:43:31.300 --> 00:43:34.340
frequency within the exact same universal ocean.

00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.960
We have journeyed so far today. We really have.

00:43:37.139 --> 00:43:40.059
We started standing in a field in Ireland, watching

00:43:40.059 --> 00:43:42.619
a pile of laundry float in the air, listening

00:43:42.619 --> 00:43:45.199
to stories of little people playing bagpopes.

00:43:45.380 --> 00:43:48.539
And we have ended up at the very edges of modern

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:51.769
physics. speculative biology, the psychology

00:43:51.769 --> 00:43:54.630
of trauma, and the ultimate evolutionary destiny

00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:57.289
of the human soul. It is time to bring this massive

00:43:57.289 --> 00:43:59.730
synthesis home for you, the listener. What we

00:43:59.730 --> 00:44:01.429
have ultimately discovered is that the fairy

00:44:01.429 --> 00:44:04.429
faith has been profoundly misunderstood by modern

00:44:04.429 --> 00:44:06.869
society. Completely. It is not a collection of

00:44:06.869 --> 00:44:09.730
groundless childish superstitions. It is a highly

00:44:09.730 --> 00:44:13.130
complex, robust, pre -scientific framework. The

00:44:13.130 --> 00:44:15.789
ancient Celts designed it to explain genuine

00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:18.409
psychical phenomena, altered states of consciousness,

00:44:18.829 --> 00:44:20.989
pathological illnesses, and the spiritual evolution

00:44:20.989 --> 00:44:24.489
of humanity. They were observing real, anomalous

00:44:24.489 --> 00:44:27.469
things in the world and building a grand functional

00:44:27.469 --> 00:44:30.349
theory to explain them. But why should you care

00:44:30.349 --> 00:44:32.849
about this today? I mean, you're probably not

00:44:32.849 --> 00:44:34.969
worried about an invisible elemental stealing

00:44:34.969 --> 00:44:37.010
your laundry and you aren't leaving saucers of

00:44:37.010 --> 00:44:40.050
milk out to appease the side. Probably not. But

00:44:40.050 --> 00:44:42.369
look at our modern world. In our current era

00:44:42.369 --> 00:44:45.030
of constant relentless information overload,

00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:48.530
of glowing screens, algorithms, and endless sterile

00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:50.909
data, we suffer from a complete and devastating

00:44:50.909 --> 00:44:53.510
loss of sympathetic contact with nature. We really

00:44:53.510 --> 00:44:56.469
do. We look at the universe solely as a resource

00:44:56.469 --> 00:44:59.269
to be extracted, as dead matter just bumping

00:44:59.269 --> 00:45:01.590
in the void. Understanding the deep roots of

00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.210
the fairy faith serves as a radical reminder.

00:45:04.469 --> 00:45:07.849
It reminds us that the human mind has vast, untapped,

00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:10.510
unmapped dimensions. It reminds us that there

00:45:10.510 --> 00:45:12.849
is a profound mystery to consciousness that we

00:45:12.849 --> 00:45:15.150
have not even begun to solve with all our technology.

00:45:15.309 --> 00:45:17.909
It demands that we remain open, critical, and

00:45:17.909 --> 00:45:20.269
curious about the X quantities in our own lives.

00:45:20.429 --> 00:45:23.889
The moments of deep intuition, the strange synchronicities,

00:45:24.230 --> 00:45:27.389
the dreams that feel too real to just be random

00:45:27.389 --> 00:45:30.630
firing synapses. It asks us to humbly recognize

00:45:30.630 --> 00:45:32.929
that the visible world we measure so carefully

00:45:32.929 --> 00:45:35.730
might merely be the thinnest skin of reality.

00:45:35.809 --> 00:45:38.449
And that beneath it lies a churning, infinite,

00:45:38.670 --> 00:45:41.400
conscious universe. So, I want to leave you with

00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:43.980
a final provocative thought to mull over on your

00:45:43.980 --> 00:45:46.440
own as you go about your week. It builds on everything

00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.000
we've synthesized today. Think about how modern

00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.900
psychical research, quantum physics, and speculative

00:45:51.900 --> 00:45:54.579
biology are currently using terms like telepathic

00:45:54.579 --> 00:45:58.340
stimulus, subconscious visualization, non -local

00:45:58.340 --> 00:46:01.179
consciousness, and the universal mother sea.

00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.659
Very scientific terms. Are we, with all our advanced

00:46:04.659 --> 00:46:07.400
university degrees, our particle accelerators,

00:46:07.420 --> 00:46:10.940
and our laboratories, Simply inventing modern

00:46:10.940 --> 00:46:14.199
clinical sterile jargon for the exact same invisible

00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.360
forces that a Celtic peasant sitting by a peat

00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:19.519
fire a thousand years ago intuitively understood

00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.039
and called the Sid Hey. Are we just rebranding

00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.780
the fairies? It is an incredibly humbling question

00:46:24.780 --> 00:46:27.159
to consider. It really is. Thank you so much

00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.500
for taking this immense deep dive into the source

00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:31.840
material with us today. We hope it makes you

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.800
look at the visible world and the quiet invisible

00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.079
spaces around you just a little bit differently

00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.860
today. Remember, the map is not the territory.

00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.760
And sometimes, the most important fundamental

00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.539
forces in the universe won't show up on a scientific

00:46:45.539 --> 00:46:48.440
instrument. Until next time, keep diving deep.
