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So I want you to imagine turning on the radio

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today, right? OK. And the top five songs on the

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Billboard chart are all the exact same song.

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The exact same song. Yeah, the exact same track.

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Not covers released decades apart, but the exact

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same song released by five different rival pop

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stars, all in the exact same month. And they're

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all fiercely competing for the number one spot.

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I mean, today, that would result in a billion

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dollar copyright lawsuit before lunch. Right.

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It would be absolute chaos for streaming platforms

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and record labels. But the crazy thing is, in

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1939, that was just, you know, another Tuesday

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in the music business. Really was. And well,

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welcome to the deep dive. Today, we have a very

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specific mission. We are taking a stack of notes

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which are anchored by this really fascinating

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Wikipedia article. And we're going to explore

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the bizarre, shape -shifting life cycle of a

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single musical masterpiece. It's quite a journey.

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It is. The song is called Stairway to the Stars.

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And for you listening, we're going to trace how

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this one piece of music travels through time,

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constantly changing its clothes, surviving these

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massive seismic shifts in pop culture, and somehow

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capturing the imaginations of completely different

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generations of musicians. It really is a remarkable

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journey. And to really understand how a song

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becomes this legendary pop and jazz standard,

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We have to start at a point where it didn't even

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have its famous title. Wait, really? Yeah. The

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origin story of Stairway to the Stars does not

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begin with a glamorous singer standing at a microphone.

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It begins as a purely instrumental piece. We're

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talking way back. Right. The year is 1934. two

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composers, Matty Melnick and Frank Signorelli,

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they write an instrumental called Park Avenue

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Fantasy. And there are no lyrics. There are no

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vocalists. It is literally just a melody. And

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it just, you know, it sits out there in the world

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for five years as this standalone piece of music.

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Yeah, five years. Exactly. And then finally,

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in 1939, a lyricist named Mitchell Parish comes

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along. He writes words to that underlying theme.

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Robin's music corp releases it. And suddenly,

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the standard stairway to the stars is officially

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born. But wait, I have to stop you right there.

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You're saying a purely instrumental track from

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1934 sat around for five whole years doing basically

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nothing. And then one guy adds words and it's

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suddenly the biggest song in America. That's

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the timeline, yeah. Was the original melody just

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lacking something, or did Mitchell Parish just

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possess some kind of lyrical magic? Well, it

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wasn't that the melody was lacking at all. In

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fact, that five -year gap is crucial to understanding

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the song's DNA. The melody had to be structurally

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robust enough to stand entirely on its own, you

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know, without any words to tell the listener

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how they were supposed to feel about it. So it

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was already fully formed? Yes, it was already

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a complete sophisticated thought by the time

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Mitchell Parish got his hands on it. What Parish

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did wasn't fixing a broken song. He basically

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translated a complex instrumental mood into a

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relatable human sentiment. OK, let's unpack this.

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Because for you listening, if you want a modern

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equivalent of how wild this transition is, think

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about modern music collection. Right. Imagine

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Park Avenue Fantasy is this incredible atmospheric

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EDM beat, or like a heavy instrumental hip hop

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track. It's cool, people in the underground scene

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vibe to it. It has this distinct mood. But it's

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not a hit. Exactly. It's not a radio hit. Then,

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Mitchell Parish acts like the superstar modern

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producer who walks into the studio, hears that

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beat, and says, hold on, I've got the perfect

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vocal top line for this. Yeah, that's a perfect

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way to put it. He drops these killer lyrics over

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the existing track, and suddenly, what was just

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a cool niche instrumental transforms into a massive,

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undeniable mainstream pop hit. That is a highly

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accurate way to look at it, actually. He unlocked

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a totally different commercial potential for

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the foundation that Malnick and Signorelli had

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built. He gave the public a way to sing along

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to what was previously just, you know, a beautiful

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piece of architecture. And when we say commercial

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potential, we are not exaggerating. That lyrical

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edition in 1939 wasn't just a hit. It was an

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absolute cultural explosion. Oh, absolutely.

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The sheer dominance of this track... in that

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specific year is almost hard to wrap your head

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around. If we look at the timeline in our sources,

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May of 1939 is when things really catch fire.

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Glenn Miller and his orchestra, featuring vocals

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by a singer named Ray Eberly, they released their

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recording on the RCA Bluebird label, and it climbs

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all the way to number one on the Your Hip Parade

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chart. Number one in May. Right. But the song

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does not stop there. By June, so the very next

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month, Ella Fitzgerald and her famous orchestra

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released their own recording of it. Right, the

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very next month. Then we hit July, and the Inc.

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sponsored doing it on an NBC radio broadcast.

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And in that exact same year, 1939, you have hit

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recordings of the exact same song by Jimmy Dorsey,

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by Kay Kaiser with vocals by Harry Babbitt, and

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by Al Donahue with vocals by Paula Kelly. It's

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everywhere. Oh, wait, looking at these notes,

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um... I have to interrupt. Glenn Miller's singer

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is Ray Eberly with an L -E at the end. But Jimmy

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Dorsey's rival version from that exact same year

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features a vocalist named Bob Eberly with an

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L -Y. Yes, he does. Is that a typo in our source

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material or were two guys with essentially the

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exact same name battling it out on the charts

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with the exact same song? It is not a typo and

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it's actually this brilliant piece of historical

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trivia. They were brothers. Got up, really? Really.

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Bob Eberly and Ray Eberly were siblings singing

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for rival heavyweights, Bob for Jimmy Dorsey,

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and Ray for Glenn Miller. And because Glenn Miller's

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version hit number one, Ray effectively beat

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his own brother on the charts with the exact

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same song. Oh my gosh, that must have made it

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for an incredibly tense Thanksgiving dinner.

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I can only imagine. But familial rivalries aside,

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how does an industry even function like that?

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Yeah. Today, we're so used to the idea that a

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song belongs to a specific artist. The competition

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isn't supposed to be about who can sing the exact

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same track better in the exact same month. What's

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fascinating here is what the simultaneous recording

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frenzy tells us about the music industry's model

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during that era. In 1939, a hit didn't belong

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to just one artist. It belonged to the culture.

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The culture owned it. Exactly. The song itself,

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like the actual sheet music, was the product.

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The moment a song proved it had heat like Stairway

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to the Stars did when Glenn Miller took it to

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number one. every single bandleader raced to

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get their own unique spin out to the public.

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They were all just capitalizing on the melody.

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Right. The competition wasn't about who wrote

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the best song. It was about whose orchestra could

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capture the public's imagination the best using

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the exact same raw material. It's fascinating.

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But, you know, lots of songs conquered a specific

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year like 1939 and then faded into total obscurity.

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Tastes change. They do. The real story of Stairway

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to the Stars isn't just that it was a hit. It's

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how it survives the end of the swing and big

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band era. Because the music industry was about

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to go through a massive, massive upheaval. Precisely.

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As we move from the late 1930s into the mid -century,

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the musical landscape shifts dramatically. You

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have the World War II recording bands. The economics

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of touring with massive 20 -piece dance hall

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orchestras just becomes unsustainable, and the

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swing era starts to die out. So what happens

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to the musicians? Well, musicians are pushed

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into smaller, more complex bebop ensembles. Thousands

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of big band pop hits from the 1930s were completely

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forgotten because they were either too simple

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or too rigidly tied to that dance hall style

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to survive the transition. But not Stairway to

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the Stars. It doesn't get left behind. It actually

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evolves into a deeply respected vehicle for serious

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jazz improvisation. Looking at the timeline here,

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we see this bridge in 1947, where you have recordings

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by the legendary vocalist Dinah Washington with

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Chubby Jackson's orchestra, and another by pianist

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Carmen Caballero. Setting the stage for what's

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next. Right. And then we plunge into the 1950s

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and 60s. And the list of people tackling this

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song reads like a Mount Rushmore of jazz heavyweights.

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The roster is honestly staggering. In the 1950s

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alone, you have the Buddy DeFranco quartet in

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1953. Yeah. You have the brilliant, complex pianist

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Bud Powell. offering his interpretation in 56,

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Lee Connett's in 57. And that same year, the

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vocal titan Sarah Vaughn records it for her landmark

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live album at Mr. Kelly's. And the momentum just

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keeps building into the 1960s. Ella Fitzgerald

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returns to the track in 1960 for her album, Hello,

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Love. Johnny Mathis records it in 61. It just

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doesn't stop. In 1962, you have Milt Jackson

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and Wes Montgomery putting it on Bags Meets Wes.

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Stan Kenton puts it on Adventures in Jazz, and

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the legendary pianist Bill Evans includes it

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on Moon Deems. Some of the greatest albums of

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the era. Then you have Dexter Gordon doing it

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on Our Man in Paris in 1963, the incredibly smooth

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Johnny Hartman in 64, and Benny Goodman returning

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to it in 67. It's incredible. But I have to push

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back here. For you, the listener, I don't want

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us to just read a table of contents. I want to

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know how they did this. OK, fair enough. How

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does a bright, peppy, 1939 dancehall track by

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Glenn Miller turn into a serious piece of art

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for someone like Bill Evans or Dexter Gordon?

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What are they actually doing to the music? If

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we connect this to the bigger picture, that is

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the perfect question, because the genius lies

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in the mechanics of the song itself. A standard

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only survives if it has a strong harmonic foundation.

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Right. To put it in accessible terms, Stairway

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to the Stars features this incredible chromatic

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descending bass line, meaning the underlying

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chords step down half note at a time in certain

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sections. OK, I can picture that. Right. To a

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pop singer in 1939, that just sounds romantic

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and swooning. But to a jazz musician in 1962,

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that descending bass line acts like a playground.

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Oh, interesting. It is an open invitation to

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substitute more complex chords, to twist the

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harmony, and to completely change the emotion.

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weight of the song. So when Bill Evans gets his

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hands on it in 62, he isn't just playing the

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Glenn Miller melody with fewer instruments. Not

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at all. Evans takes that 1930s swing foundation

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and adds these dense, melancholic, closely clustered

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piano voicings. He slows the tempo way down.

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He makes it introspective. He finds sadness and

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longing in a chord progression that was originally

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designed to make people dance. Here's where it

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gets really interesting, because for you listening...

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I want you to imagine this song as a piece of

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open source software. Oh, I like that. Right.

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Matty Malneck and Frank Sinirelli wrote the bass

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operating system. The melody is the user interface.

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It's catchy. It's easy to interact with. But

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the chords beneath it, that descending bass line

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you mentioned, that is the backend code. Yes.

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And it is so impeccably written that any developer,

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or in this case, any musician, can come in, tweak

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the code, and build an entirely new application

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on top of it without crashing the system. I love

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that analogy, because when you compare those

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different versions, you really hear entirely

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different applications being run. Take Dexter

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Gordon's version on Our Man in Paris in 1963.

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Gordon is a tenor saxophonist steeped in bebop.

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He isn't playing a sweet, sentimental dance tune.

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He's playing in a smoky Parisian jazz club, pushing

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the tempo, playing behind the beat, and exploring

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the gritty, bluesy corners of that exact same

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harmonic structure. And then you contrast that

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with what the vocalists were doing. Like you

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have Johnny Hartman in Oh, Hartman is legendary.

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Right. Hartman possessed this rich, impossibly

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smooth, baritone voice. When he sings the lyrics

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Mitchell Parish wrote, he isn't using it as an

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upbeat pop hook. He's delivering it as this intimate,

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late -night romantic confession. Same ink, completely

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different novels. Exactly. How incredibly elastic

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does a melody have to be to stretch across that

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many different stylistic interpretations? From

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West Montgomery's vibraphone and guitar textures

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to... Bud Powell's cerebral piano without snapping.

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It requires a rare combination of simplicity

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and depth and that elasticity, the fact that

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the song could be pulled into these smoky avant

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-garde jazz clubs while still retaining its beautiful

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melodic core is exactly what caught the ear of

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Hollywood directors. Oh right, the movies. Because

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while the song is busy being deconstructed by

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jazz giants, it is also living a completely parallel

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life on the silver screen. Right. The directors

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needed something with enough gravitas for a cinematic

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moment, but enough pop sensibility to actually

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connect with moviegoers. Yes. Enter the year

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1959. Stairway to the Stars is used as a major

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theme in the iconic motion picture. Some like

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it on. Which is an absolute milestone. Some Like

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It Hot is widely considered one of the greatest

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comedies ever made. Placing the song so prominently

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in a major Hollywood blockbuster cements it in

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the pop culture consciousness in a way that goes

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far beyond just record sales or jazz club credibility.

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It exposes the melody to millions of people who

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might never have bought a Bill Evans record or

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remembered the 1939 Glenn Miller hit. Exactly.

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And that Hollywood placement ensures its survival

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for decades to come. The timeline in our sources

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stretches right through the modern era. You have

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Natalie Cole recording it on her album Don't

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Look Back in 1980. A great version. You have

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The Velvet Fog himself, Mel Tormé, including

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it on an evening with Mel Tormé in 1994, all

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the way up to the 21st century. with the acclaimed

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British jazz vocalist Ian Shaw recording it for

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the Abbey Road Sessions in 2011. This raises

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an important question about the duality of the

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song itself. How many pieces of music can exist

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as a mainstream Hollywood movie theme for a major

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blockbuster in 1959, while simultaneously being

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torn apart and reimagined by avant -garde bebop

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musicians in the exact same era? Not many, that's

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for sure. It is an incredibly rare piece of art

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that perfectly bridges the gap between high art

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exploration and popular mass market entertainment.

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So what does this all mean for the artists who

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actually have to perform it today? That's the

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big question. If you put yourself in the shoes

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of a modern vocalist, say, you are Ian Shaw walking

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into the legendary Abbey Road Studios in 2011.

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You look at the sheet music on the stand. You

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know the sheer crushing weight of the history

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behind this song. That's heavy. You know that

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by choosing to sing these lyrics, you were stepping

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up to the exact same microphone, metaphorically

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speaking, as Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn, and

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Johnny Hartman. You were singing over the same

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chords that Bud Powell and Bill Evans spent years

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exploring. How do you even approach recording

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it without being completely paralyzed by the

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legacy? I feel like I would just fold up the

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sheet music and go home. That is the ultimate

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challenge of performing a standard. It's an intimidating

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tightrope walk. As an artist, you have to balance

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your reverence for the history with the courage

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to bring your own distinct voice to it. You have

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to understand what Dexter Gordon did, but you

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can't just mimic Dexter Gordon. You have to believe

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that the foundation is strong enough and elastic

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enough to support one more house being built

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on top of it. And clearly, for nearly a century,

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artists have found that courage because the song

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just invites them in. It really is a master class

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in the power of reinvention. Let's look back

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at the incredible journey we've mapped out for

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you today. It's a lot of ground. It really is.

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We started in 1934 with a pure standalone instrumental

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called Park Avenue Fantasy. We explored the five

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-year incubation period and then watched it get

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a lyrical top line and absolutely explode into

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a vocal phenomenon in 1939. We saw it dominate

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the charts and spark literal sibling rivalries

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among the biggest band leaders in the world.

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And then we explored how it survived the death

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of the swing era and the musician's strikes of

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the 1940s. We unpacked how its unique chromatic

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baseline allowed it to become this defining open

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-source canvas for the mid -century jazz giants,

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transitioning from a dance tune into a vehicle

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for serious introspective art. And we watched

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it grace the silver screen in a 1959 cinematic

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masterpiece, living a parallel life as a Hollywood

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theme before following its endurance all the

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way into the recording studios of the 21st century.

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And the takeaway for you, the listener, goes

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far beyond just music history. Understanding

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the lineage of Stairway to the Stars is a lesson

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in how true brilliance isn't just about the original

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moment of creation. Definitely. It's about structural

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integrity. A lasting legacy is about building

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a foundation that is so inherently strong, so

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perfectly balanced, and yet so wonderfully blank,

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that other people can project their own emotions

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onto it and continue building their own houses

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on it for a century. Exactly. It's not a rigid

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skyscraper locked in steel and concrete. It's

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a living, breathing framework that constantly

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invites new architects to dream. Which leaves

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us with a final thought for you to ponder as

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we wrap up this deep dive. Let's hear it. If

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Matty Malinak and Frank Signorelli were to sit

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down and write Park Avenue Fantasy today in the

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year 2026, what genre would it be? Oh, that's

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a great question. Right. Would it be an ambient

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electronic track? A heavy trap beat. And who

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would be the modern -day equivalent of Mitchell

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Parish and Glenn Miller to step in, add the vocal

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hook, record the track, and make it immortal?

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The next time you turn on the radio and hear

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a massive chart -topping remix, ask yourself,

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is the back -end code underneath that beats strong

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enough that artists will still be finding new

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heartbreaking ways to play it 80 years from now?
