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Picture the absolute loudest, most chaotic environment

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you can possibly imagine. Right, just total sensory

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overload. Exactly. Pyrotechnics are going off,

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you've got 20 ,000 people screaming their heads

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off, and the performers in the center of the

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arena are wearing neon spandex. Oh, yeah, shouting

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catchphrases and doing whatever they can to get

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you to look at them. Right. Now, in the middle

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of all that noise, I want you to imagine a man.

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He's towering at six foot three. weighing 256

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pounds, which is a massive guy. Yeah, totally.

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And he's wearing completely unflashy trunks.

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He isn't yelling. He isn't, you know, pandering

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to the crowd. But somehow he's the one holding

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the whole thing together. Yes. Welcome to today's

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deep dive. We are digging into the source material,

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specifically the Wikipedia archives, to explore

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the life and the quiet mastery of English professional

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wrestler. Dave Taylor. And the mission for this

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deep dive is really to figure out how a third

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generation grappler from Yorkshire managed to

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become this undeniable linchpin of the global

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wrestling industry. Across four completely different

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decades, no less. Yeah, what's fascinating here

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is how his career serves as a perfectly scaled

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map of the industry's evolution. Like if you

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track his movements, you're tracking the mechanics

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of the business itself, right? Exactly. You see

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the industry move from regional UK terrestrial

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television in the 1980s to the really gritty

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German circuits. Oh, we're definitely going to

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talk about Germany. Oh, yeah. And from there,

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straight into the massive corporate boom of the

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U .S. Monday Night Wars in the 90s and finally

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settling into the modern independent scene. He

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was the connective tissue through all of those

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era shifts. I kind of think of him as the ultimate

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character actor of the wrestling world. Oh, that's

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a great analogy. Like someone who might not always

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be the face on the promotional poster, you know?

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Yeah. But his technical mastery and physical

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presence basically elevate the leading stars.

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Right, because a leading man in a movie has nothing

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to react to if the character actor doesn't give

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him a solid foundation. Precisely. For Dave Taylor,

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that foundation was practically written into

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his DNA. Before you go global, you have to master

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your home turf. And his turf was defined by generations

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of specialized knowledge. I mean, Taylor was

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born in 1957 in Yorkshire, England, into just

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a massive family legacy. He was a third generation

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wrestler. Yeah. And to put that in perspective,

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his father, Eric Taylor, was the British heavy

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middleweight champion for 14 consecutive years.

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Wait, 14 years? Spanning from 1953 to 1967. Holding

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any physical combat championship for 14 years

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is just... staggering to me. It really requires

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a level of physical preservation and honestly

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political savvy that most athletes just never

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achieve. And the pedigree goes back even further,

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doesn't it? It does. His grandfather, Joe Taylor,

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competed in the 1932 Summer Olympics. Even Dave's

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brother, Steve, was an established television

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wrestler. So when Dave made his professional

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debut in 1978 as Dave Rocky Taylor, he wasn't

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just like... learning the ropes. No, not at all.

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He had already absorbed the psychology of crowd

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manipulation and physical leverage just sitting

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at his family's dinner table. Right. So he starts

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making his way onto television in the early 80s

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on a Welsh language show called Reslo. And eventually

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moves up to national terrestrial television in

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the UK. But and here's where it gets really interesting.

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You can be a master technician, but sometimes

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pure unscripted chaos is what dictates your legacy.

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Oh, are we talking about Croydon? Yes, the 1988

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Croydon incident. I'm looking at the notes on

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this and it sounds like pure panic. It's a legendary

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moment. So Taylor is in a televised tag team

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match. He's teaming with Iron Fist Clive Myers

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against two absolute icons of the British scene.

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Right, Kendo Nagasaki and Rollerball Rocco. Yeah,

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and Taylor is in the ring trying to unmask Kendo

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Nagasaki. He's pulling at the fabric, and Rollerball

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Rocco jumps in to pull his partner's mask back

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down to protect the gimmick. Because the mask

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is everything for that character. Exactly. But

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in the heat of the struggle, Taylor throws a

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forearm smash, accidentally hits Rocco, and the

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collision somehow causes the mask to just...

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rip completely off in Taylor's hands. Oh man,

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live on television. Yes. Nagasaki's face is completely

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exposed to the cameras. He immediately sprints

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in the dressing room, grabs a spare mask, and

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runs back out. But the illusion is completely

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broken at that point. Right. And the fallout.

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Nagasaki's manager blames Rocko for the unmasking,

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and it ignites a multi -year blood feud storyline

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between Nagasaki and Rocko. It completely shifted

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the landscape of British wrestling for years.

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Okay, well I have to push back here, or at least

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ask you to break down the mechanics of this for

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me. Sure, what's the hangup? Well, we know professional

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wrestling involves scripted storylines and predetermined

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outcomes, right? Of course. But if this was an

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actual accident, like a stray forearm that snagged

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a piece of fabric, how does a genuine mistake

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accidentally rewrite the entire television script

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for the next three years? That right there is

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the dividing line between a good performer and

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a master. I mean, the broad strokes of wrestling

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are planned, but the physical execution happens

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live. So things are meant to go wrong. Exactly.

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Sweat makes things slippery, bodies collide,

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accidents just happen. When an unscripted moment

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like a major character's face being exposed happens,

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the crowd knows it wasn't supposed to go down

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like that. The tension in the room just changes

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instantly, I imagine. Completely. A lesser performer

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would freeze? or try to awkwardly put the mask

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back on. But Taylor and the others in that ring

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adapted instantly. And just rolled with it. Yeah,

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they took a chaotic accident, treated it as a

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deeply offensive betrayal within the context

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of the story, and used the genuine shock of the

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audience to fuel a new, highly lucrative narrative.

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That ability to improvise physically and narratively

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is exactly why Taylor was so highly regarded.

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He rolls with the chaos instead of fighting it.

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I love that. So he continues to dominate the

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UK, winning the British Heavyweight Championship

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against Dave Finley in 1991. And he loses it,

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but then wins it back against Marty Jones in

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1995. Right. But once you conquer Britain, a

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true craftsman kind of seeks out different styles,

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right? This takes him to mainland Europe. Specifically,

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the Catch Wrestling Association, or CWA, in Germany.

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And the Cerf material highlights that the German

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style was radically different from what he was

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doing. Oh, vastly different. It was known for

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being a very stiff style of wrestling. OK, break

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that down for someone tuning in who has never

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stepped foot in a ring. What makes a style stiff?

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Well... In traditional American wrestling, the

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performers are actively cooperating to make the

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moves look impactful, you know, while protecting

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each other from actual trauma. Right, it's cooperative.

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But a stiff style, which was highly popular in

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Germany and Japan, involves far less cooperation.

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The strikes are legitimate. Wait, really? Like

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actual hits? Yeah, the forearms actually make

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contact, the kicks leave bruises, and the grappling

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involves real joint manipulation. That sounds

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incredibly painful. It requires an incredibly

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high... pain tolerance, and a deep background

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in legitimate amateur wrestling, so you don't

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actually break your opponent's arm by mistake.

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And Taylor thrived in that brutal environment.

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He did. In 1991, in Bremen, Germany, he won the

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CWA World Tag Team Championship. And his partner

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for that championship run was a very young Chris

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Benoit. Which I know Benoit is a complex and

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tragic figure in wrestling history. Yes, very

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much so. But from a purely athletic standpoint,

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he was notoriously intense. Why does Taylor teaming

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with him matter so much to this timeline? Because

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Benoit was already building a reputation globally

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as a relentless, unforgiving, technical prodigy.

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He trained in the infamous New Japan dojos. So

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he was essentially the gold standard for that

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stiff style at the time. Exactly. To be paired

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with him, And to actually keep up with his pace

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in a stiff German promotion proves that Taylor

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wasn't just a British TV character. Right. He

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was the real deal. He was a legitimate, world

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-class, heavyweight grappler who commanded respect

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from the most serious athletes in the sport.

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He'd win those titles again in 93 with Miles

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Erno. Okay, let's unpack this next phase then.

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Because mid 90s, Taylor makes the massive jump

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across the Atlantic. The big American debut.

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Yeah, he joins the Atlanta -based world championship

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wrestling WCW right at the dawn of the American

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wrestling boom. But he doesn't debut as this

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gritty, tough -as -nails German circuit fighter.

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Not at all. Yeah. He undergoes a total character

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reinvention. He becomes Squire David Taylor.

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He just totally embraces the pageantry. He forms

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an incredibly posh, elitist aristocrat stable

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called the Blue Bloods with Lord Stephen Regal.

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And this is where it gets really funny, actually.

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Yeah. They recruit an American wrestler, Earl

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Robert Eaton. to be in their group, try to teach

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him manners, and then eventually kick him out

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and feud with him because he isn't proper enough.

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It is pure unabashed soap opera. Completely.

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It's so different from what he was doing before.

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Well, if we connect this to the bigger picture,

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you are seeing the rarest trait in any performer

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total adaptability. Right, because the mechanical

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shift here is huge. Think about it. He spent

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the early 90s in Germany where the matches were

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quiet. violent, and focused entirely on the geometry

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of grappling. And then he crosses the ocean into

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WCW. Where the matches are built around television

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commercial breaks, running the ropes, and character

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-driven drama. So the actual pacing of how he

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moves in the ring has to change? Completely.

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Many purist technical wrestlers fail when they

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come to America because they refuse to change

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their timing. They just want to do what worked

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in Germany or Japan. Right, they want to wrestle

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a pure sports style in front of an audience that

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just wants a pantomime villain. But Taylor understood

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the assignment. He knew what the crowd wanted.

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He realized his job was no longer just to apply

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a perfect wrist lock. It was to pause, sneer

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at the crowd, act like an arrogant snob, and

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make the audience desperately want to see him

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get punched in the face. That is brilliant. He

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manipulated the crowd's emotions just as well

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as he manipulated an opponent's joints. Absolutely.

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So he plays that role to perfection for years.

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But as we move into the 2000s, the entire industry

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undergoes a corporate monopoly. The end of the

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Monday Night Wars. Yes. In 2001, the WWF, which

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is now WWE, buys WCW. The competition basically

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dies overnight. And this leads to one of my absolute

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favorite details in all the research we pull

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for this deep dive. The transition behind the

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scenes. Yes. In 2001, Taylor joins the WWF. He

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wrestles exactly one match. The records call

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it a dark match. Right, meaning it was performed

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for the live arena crowd before the television

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cameras turned on, usually just to test out talent.

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So he defeats a guy named Scott Vick. in this

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dark match. And then he just leaves the largest

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wrestling corporation on the planet. And the

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reason why is amazing. They told him he had to

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relocate to Cincinnati, Ohio to work in their

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Heartland Wrestling Association developmental

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territory. and he just flat out refused. Which

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is a remarkable stance to take in a monopoly,

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you know? It is exactly like a highly specialized

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senior software engineer surviving a massive

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corporate merger, only to be told, hey, we love

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your work, but we need you to move to a cubicle

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in a different state to train interns. Yeah,

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and the engineer just looks at the executives

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and says, I know exactly what my time is worth,

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and I'm not doing that. It's a master class in

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setting personal boundaries. Well, he didn't

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need the corporate machine to validate his worth.

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He knew his value lay in his knowledge. So instead

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of relocating to Cincinnati, he stayed in Atlanta.

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And opened his own school, right? Yes. In 2002,

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he opened the Blue Bloods Wrestling Academy with

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his longtime partners William Regal and Dave

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Finley. They created their own institution to

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teach the mechanics of their craft entirely on

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their own terms. But the giant machine eventually

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realizes it needs the master craftsman. By 2006,

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WWE hires him back on his terms to train students

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in their deep south wrestling territory in Georgia.

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But. Taylor wasn't done on camera yet? No, he

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wasn't. In October 2006, he makes his return

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to the main roster on SmackDown. He reunites

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with Regal, but they drop the posh gimmick entirely.

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The source material says they were simply portrayed

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as sadistic fighters. They stripped away all

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the theater. The narrative was simple. We are

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veterans. We know how the human body bends, and

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we are going to stretch you. OK, when you say

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stretch you, what does that actually mean in

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wrestling terminology? So stretching is a term

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from the old carnivals and the early days of

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the sport. It means applying legitimate painful

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submission holds. Like actually hurting them.

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Well, not necessarily to injure, but to inflict

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enough real discomfort to force a younger, maybe

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cocky opponent to respect your authority in the

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ring. It was a warning that their technical knowledge

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made them genuinely dangerous. And his resilience

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during this run is just absurd. In his second

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match back on TV, Taylor tears his left meniscus.

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Which for a guy pushing 50 years old, that is

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a career ender. At best, you need surgery and

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a year off. But Taylor. He takes a couple of

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weeks to stand in the corner as a manager, heals

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up with terrifying speed and jumps right back

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into active competition. It leads to this massive

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feud with Paul London and Brian Kendrick who

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are these fast young aerial specialists and it

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all culminates at the Armageddon 2006 pay -per

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-view in a fatal four -way ladder match involving

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the Hardys and M &amp;M. And this raises a really

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important question about his role at that point.

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Yeah. How does a 50 year old veteran with a recently

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torn knee balance the expectation to perform

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in a chaotic high flying ladder match while also

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fulfilling his primary behind the scenes role

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of passing the torch? Because logically, he shouldn't

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even be in a match that requires jumping off

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a 15 foot ladder. Exactly. And that is where

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ring psychology comes into play. Taylor survived

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that match and actually made it brilliant by

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being the grounded base. He stayed on the mat.

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Right. He wasn't the one taking massive bumps,

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which is the industry term for falling onto the

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mat or crashing through an object. Instead, he

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used his size and technical skill to ground the

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high flyers. Oh, I see. He used the ladder as

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a brutal weapon on the mat rather than climbing

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it for a stunt. Yes. He paced the match, directing

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the traffic of the younger stars, ensuring they

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were in the right place at the right time to

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hit their spectacular moves safely. He was acting

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as the architect of the match from the inside.

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While simultaneously mentoring in the next generation

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during the week. Like in 2007, he brings a young

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Drew McIntyre to Smackdown and acts as his on

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-screen mentor. And McIntyre, of course, goes

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on to become a global megastar and world champion

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years later. Exactly. Yeah. Taylor is eventually

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released by WWE in April 2008, but he enters

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what feels like a Twilight tour. He really cements

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his status as an absolute cult hero on the independent

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scene. Oh, he became a revered elder statesman.

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When he hit the indies, the new generation of

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technical wrestlers just idolized him. I mean,

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look at these stops. He competed in the 2008

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Ted Petty Invitational. In 2010, he got a tryout

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as an agent for TNA Wrestling. And for context,

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an agent or a producer in wrestling is the veteran

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who sits down with the talent backstage, helps

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them map out the psychological beats of the match,

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and ensures it fits the television time constraints.

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Right. So it is the ultimate role for a journeyman,

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really transferring your architectural knowledge

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of match structure to the younger talent. Spot

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on. He also appeared in Ring of Honor in 2011,

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joining the embassy stable. He was just distributing

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his specialized knowledge across every alternative

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promotion available. But the peak of this indie

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run, for me, is the 2009 Chikara King of Trios

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tournament. Oh, Chikara was fantastic. It was

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this incredibly quirky, almost comic book style

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wrestling promotion. And here goes Dave Taylor,

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forming a trio called Team Uppercut. with Claudio

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Castagnoli and Bryan Danielson. Two guys who

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would eventually become massive, massive superstars.

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Yes. And they based their entire identity around

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the European uppercut. Which is a strike that

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is totally synonymous with Taylor's heritage.

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How's it different from a regular uppercut? Well,

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unlike a traditional boxing uppercut, the European

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style in wrestling is delivered with the forearm

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and biceps swinging upward into the chest or

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jaw. Ouch. Yeah, it's a hallmark of those rugged

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European circuits we discussed earlier. Forming

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a team around that single fundamental technique

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with two modern indie darlings was just a perfect

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synthesis of the past, present and future. And

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they took that concept all the way to the finals

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of the tournament. So what does this all mean

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for us? We've tracked this massive winding journey

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from a Yorkshire lineage to German stiffness

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to WCW aristocracy to WWE ladder matches to being

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an indie cult hero. I think it means that Dave

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Taylor represents the quiet, load -bearing architecture

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of an entire industry. He officially retired

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in 2012, though he did return for special one

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-off matches in Germany in 2017 and 2019. But

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his legacy is proof that an industry does not

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survive solely on its flashy main event superstars.

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It survives because of the journeymen. The craftsmen

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who master the unglamorous fundamentals. Exactly.

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The ones who adapt mechanically to shifting cultures

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and generously pass that architectural knowledge

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down. Because without the Dave Taylors, the superstars

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have no foundation to stand on and the whole

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production collapses. And that is exactly why

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this deep dive matters to you listening, whether

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you care about professional wrestling or not.

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Absolutely. True mastery in any field, be it

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corporate finance, software development. Creative

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arts often looks exactly like Dave Taylor. It

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is the ability to adapt your skills across different

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corporate cultures. And the confidence to set

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firm personal boundaries, like refusing to move

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to Cincinnati because you know the actual value

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of your expertise. Yes. And above all, it's about

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having the technical mastery to quietly, consistently

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elevate the people around you so the entire project

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succeeds. Which leaves us with a provocative

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thought to consider. Today, major wrestling companies,

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much like massive tech firms or corporations,

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train their talent in highly sanitized, strictly

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controlled, state of the art performance centers.

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Everything is homogenized. Right. So as those

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environments become the norm, does it make it

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impossible for a rugged organic journeyman like

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Dave Taylor, who learned his craft in the messy,

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chaotic global circus to ever exist again? Has

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the modern corporate structure permanently killed

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the era of the true craftsman? Think about the

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Dave Taylor holding your own workplace together

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and make sure you thank them before the system

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replaces them.
