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Imagine for a second that you are in a job where

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doing the the quote -unquote right thing Constantly

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puts you at odds with your boss right and your

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colleagues and oh, yeah about 70 % of the general

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public that is Quite the stressful work environment.

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Yeah, exactly I mean every single day you walk

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into the office knowing that sticking to your

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principles just simply refusing to bend a popular

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opinion Might actually end your career Yeah.

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So you have to ask yourself, would you keep doing

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it? Or would you eventually cave just to keep

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the peace? Well, it is the ultimate test of integrity,

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isn't it? Totally. Most of us like to think we

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would hold the line. But when the pressure to

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compromise is coming from the literal people

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who control your livelihood, I mean, the math

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usually changes for most folks. It really does.

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But the reason we are asking this today. because

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we found a historical source detailing the career

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of a man who actually lived that exact scenario.

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He really did. Right, so today's deep dive into

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the source material focuses on William Warren

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Ullman. He was a Canadian member of Parliament

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whose entire career was essentially Well, a master

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class in staggering contradictions. And completely

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immovable principles. Yes. We are extracting

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a roadmap of how one man navigated these massive

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political and moral dilemmas. fighting to abolish

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the death penalty to literally taking on his

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own country's national police force. It's a wild

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ride. And just a quick note before we dive in,

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we are dealing with some incredibly heavy, highly

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polarizing topics today. Very heavy. Yeah. Our

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source material covers everything from capital

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punishment and abortion to international conflicts

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and national security. Right. Which means we

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need to state directly to you listening. Our

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goal here is never to endorse a right wing or

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left wing viewpoint on any of these issues. Exactly.

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We are strictly here to impartially report on

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the fascinating historical facts contained in

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the source material. We lay out the mechanics

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of what happened and why it happened. And well,

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you get to draw your own conclusions. Right.

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Because our focus is on the architecture of his

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leadership and the historical context of his

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decisions. We're not here to litigate. the modern

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political debates surrounding them. OK, let's

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unpack this because his background sounds like

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a recipe for a completely different kind of politician.

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Oh, for sure. I mean, he was a Mile and Montreal

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kid born in 1932. He played three years of varsity

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ice hockey for the McGill Redmen, which is pretty

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intense. Yeah. And he was deeply Catholic, Jesuit

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educated. You hear that resume and you might

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picture this, I don't know, rigid traditionalist,

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but he eventually became a fierce champion for

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deeply progressive, highly controversial causes.

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And that background is actually the foundation

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of everything you did. It really forged this

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unbreakable, highly stubborn moral compass. Blubbering

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is definitely the word. Yeah, you have the physical

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discipline of a varsity athlete, the intellectual

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rigor of a civil law degree, and this deeply

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held personal faith. All of these things combined

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to create a politician who viewed the law not

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just as some administrative rule book, but as

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a moral instrument. And we really see that put

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to the test when he gets his first taste of real

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power, don't we? Oh, absolutely. To understand

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his lifelong fight against unchecked authority,

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we first have to look at what happened when Pierre

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Trudeau appointed him to actually run it. So

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in 1972, Alman becomes the Solicitor General

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of Canada. Which, I mean, is an incredibly tense

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period to step into that specific role. Yeah,

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the timing was wild. He is serving right after

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the October crisis. For those unfamiliar, this

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was a period where domestic terrorism by a separatist

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group known as the FLQ led to martial law essentially

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being declared. Right, the military was literally

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deployed on the streets of Montreal. Exactly.

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The nation is completely on edge and national

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security is the absolute top priority. And as

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the listener general, Almonde is suddenly the

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watchmen over the watchdogs, the Royal Canadian

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Mounted Police, the RCMP. But it turns out the

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watchdogs were completely off the leash. They

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really were. Right. In 1976, the director general

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of the RCMP Security Service comes to Almond

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and asks him to sign a warrant to intercept the

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mail of a Toronto couple. The intelligence suggested

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this couple was conspiring with the Japanese

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Red Army to launch a terrorist attack on the

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1976 Summer Olympics in Montreal. A huge threat.

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Right. So given the stakes, Alman signs it. But

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then nine months later, he has to scramble to

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cancel the warrant. Yeah, because the Justice

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Department knocks on his door and basically informs

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him that intercepting mail like that blatantly

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violates the Post Office Act. It was a massive

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wake up call regarding how intelligence agencies

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actually operate. And the thing is, it was not

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an isolated incident. Right. The source talks

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about another case. Yes. Look at the Leonard

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Peltier extradition case that same year. Peltier

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was a prominent Indigenous rice activist in the

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United States who fled to Canada after a deadly

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shootout with the FBI. Almond was a Solicitor

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General when Peltier was extradited back to the

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U .S. And according to Almond, the FBI submitted

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flat -out false information to the Canadian government

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to secure that extradition. Yeah, I read this

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in the source. They submitted an affidavit from

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a woman with severe mental disorders who falsely

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claimed to be Pelty's girlfriend, just to manufacture

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a reason to get him back across the border. Exactly.

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And the Canadian intelligence apparatus didn't

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stop them. Unbelievable. And then you have his

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testimony before the McDonald Commission. This

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was a massive federal inquiry launched specifically

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to investigate illegal activities by the RCMP.

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Right. So after he left the post of Solicitor

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General, Allman sat down and testified that the

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RCMP had routinely lied to him. Just to his face.

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Yeah. Yeah. He recounted how they actually advised

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him that breaking into buildings without warrants

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was totally legal, as long as the officers did.

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didn't steal anything while they were inside.

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Wow. I mean, it's like being hired to manage

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a bank, only to find out the security guards

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are running a side hustle robbing the vault,

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and they're looking you in the eye and saying

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it's standard company policy. Gad is the perfect

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way to look at it, and this explains the underlying

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mechanism for the rest of his career. Well, this

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era was the crucible for Almond. Witnessing the

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RCMP and the FBI manipulate the law shattered

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any blind faith he had in the infallibility of

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the state. I see. Yeah. He realized that institutions,

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even those heavily funded and specifically designed

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to protect citizens, are fundamentally flawed

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and entirely capable of profound dishonesty.

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And that profound distrust of state power leads

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directly into what might be his ultimate stand,

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right? It does. Because Almond had just witnessed

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firsthand how dishonest state justice systems

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could be. he became fiercely determined to strip

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the state of its absolute ultimate power. The

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power to kill. Exactly. In 1976, he tabled Bill

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C -84. The objective was to remove the death

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penalty from the criminal code entirely and replace

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it with a minimum 25 -year life sentence with

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no chance of parole. And the public backlash

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to this was astronomical. Oh, it was huge. Polls

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at the time showed 70 % of Canadians actually

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supported capital punishment. Opponents were

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screaming for a national referendum. Even former

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Prime Minister John Diefenbaker weighed in, didn't

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he? He did. Diefenbaker argued that abolishing

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the death penalty right before the 1976 Montreal

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Olympics, especially after the horrific Munich

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massacre at the previous summer games, was sending

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a green light to global terrorists. Wow. And

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didn't Canada's official hangman even publicly

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call for Allman's resignation? Yes. The pressure

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was coming from every conceivable angle, from

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his constituents, his political rivals, the media,

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everyone. Okay, here's where it gets really interesting.

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I have to push back a bit on Allman's strategy

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here. Okay, sure. If 70 % of the public actively

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wants something, isn't it political suicide?

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Or even fundamentally undemocratic for an elected

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representative to just ignore them? That's the

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big question. Right. How did he justify essentially

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looking at the Canadian public and telling them

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they were wrong? Well, it comes down to a fundamental

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philosophical debate about the nature of democracy.

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Almond argued that a representative democracy

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deliberately excludes plebiscites or direct public

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votes on complex, emotionally charged issues.

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OK, so he didn't believe in direct democracy

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for this. Exactly. His defense was that members

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of parliament are elected to deliberate. They

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are paid to study the granular details of the

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justice system and make informed decisions of

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conscience. Oh, I just follow the crowd. Right.

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They are not elected to just blindly read the

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latest opinion polls and rubber stamp the anger

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of the public. And he also pointed out a massive

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glaring hypocrisy in the system itself, didn't

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he? He did. Canada had a death penalty law on

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the books, sure, but Parliament had commuted.

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every single death sentence since 1962. Oh, wow.

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So no one was actually being executed anyway.

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Exactly. It was functioning as security theater.

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It looked tough on paper, but the state wasn't

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actually carrying it out. That is fascinating.

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And again, keeping to our rule of impartiality,

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we aren't here to debate the morality of the

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death penalty itself. Right, of course. We are

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examining the mechanics of Alman's political

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courage. He genuinely believed it was illegitimate

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to grant the cabinet and the judiciary the ultimate

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power over a person. especially given the institutional

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corruption he had just uncovered as Solicitor

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General. So he and Prime Minister Trudeau knew

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a forced party vote on this would basically tear

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the government apart, so they made it a free

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vote. Which means members could vote their conscience

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instead of the party line. Yeah, and it was an

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absolute nail -biter. The bill narrowly passed

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131 to 124. That margin is incredibly tight,

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especially considering there was a liberal majority

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in the House at the time. Super tight. It proves

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how polarizing the issue was and it shows the

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sheer volume of political capital. Allman was

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willing to burn just to codify his principles

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into law. And that willingness to burn political

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capital, to defy the majority, it really bled

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into every other role he took. He essentially

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turned into a rebel within his own party. He

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really did. Let's look at his time as Minister

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of Indian Affairs and Northern Development from

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1976 to 1977. What was the baseline culture he

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walked into there? Was the government actually

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taking indigenous land claims seriously at that

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point? Not at all. The standard attitude of the

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era was highly dismissive. How bad was it? Well,

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his predecessor in that role, Jud Buchanan, had

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literally referred to the land claims and self

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-government demands of the Dean people as, quote,

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goobel de gook. Wow. Seriously. So Almond walks

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into an office where the standing policy is essentially

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mockery. Yes. How does he actually change the

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mechanism of that department? What's fascinating

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here is how he fundamentally flipped the legal

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approach. Before Allman, the government essentially

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treated historical treaties like ancient, ignorable

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suggestions. Allman told his bureaucrats to treat

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them as binding, modern contracts. He extended

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the rule of law to indigenous witnesses by taking

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historical treaties at face value. That's a massive

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shift. Huge. If a treaty guaranteed a right,

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Allman decided the burden of proof was on the

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government to prove they shouldn't honor it,

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rather than forcing indigenous groups to beg

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for it. He publicly expressed sympathy for the

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political demands of the Dean and the Metis.

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And he was apparently on the verge of reaching

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a massive land claim and autonomy settlement.

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He was very close. But then the party pulls the

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plug. He gets abruptly replaced in the fall of

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1977 by Hugh Faulkner. And Faulkner immediately

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rolls back all the progress Allman made and proposes

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a standard, highly limited cash settlement and

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reserves instead. Which unfortunately stalled

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the talks until 1981. Yeah, Almond was operating

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from a baseline of empathy and legal fairness

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that was radically ahead of its time for a federal

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bureaucrat, but it made him a massive liability

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to party leadership who just wanted quiet, traditional

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governance. Yeah, he became an absolute nightmare

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for party whips. I mean, jump to the Constitution

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Act in 1982. Oh, this is a big one. This is his

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own party's massive legacy -defining achievement.

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Pierre Trudeau's crowning moment, and Allman

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votes against it. He does. He hated the inclusion

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of Section 33, known as the Not Withstanding

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Clause, which essentially lets provincial legislatures

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legally override certain charter rights. Right.

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He also opposed Section 59, which delayed minority

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language education rights in Quebec. Because

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he voted against his own party's signature legislation,

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he never held a cabinet seat again. He prioritized

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the structural integrity of the Constitution

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over his own career advancement. He just refused

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to endorse a document that he felt contained

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legal loopholes for human rights. Andy did the

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exact same thing in 1995. He did, yeah. He voted

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against his own finance minister, Paul Martin.

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over a budget that introduced deep spending cuts

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and failed to scrap the goods and services tax,

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the GST, which the party had explicitly campaigned

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on promising to remove. Right. They promised

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the voters. So the prime minister at the time,

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Jean Chrétien, retaliated by firing him from

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his position as chair of the Justice Committee.

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He was entirely willing to publicly embarrass

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his own government if he felt they were breaking

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traditional party principles or going back on

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their word to the voters. OK, but I have to stop

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you here on this next detail from the source.

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OK, what is it? Because I want to know if this

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is actually principled leadership or if he was

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just being petty. Oh, the turtleneck. Yes. Yeah.

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In 1979, the Speaker of the House refused to

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recognize him to ask a question because he was,

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quote, improperly dressed. He was wearing a turtleneck

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sweater with his suit. instead of a traditional

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tie. He argued the ruling, lost, and had to literally

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borrow a tie from a rival NDP politician just

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to stand up and do his job. That's true. Is refusing

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to wear a tie really making a stand or just causing

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a scene? I mean, it might seem like a petty wardrobe

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malfunction, but... It perfectly encapsulates

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his philosophy. Really? How so? He fundamentally

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rejected arbitrary rules that lacked logical

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sense. If a rule didn't serve a clear moral or

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functional purpose, he wouldn't conform to it

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just because... That's the way it's always been

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done. Oh, OK. It was the exact same logic he

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applied to the death penalty or indigenous treaties

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just scaled down to parliamentary dress codes.

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OK, I see the connection there. He refused to

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accept because I said so as a valid argument

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from authority. Exactly. We see that internal

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logic again with the 1988 abortion vote. As a

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devout Catholic, Allmont personally opposed the

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act of abortion, but he voted against criminalizing

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it, which drew massive ire from conservative

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Catholics across the country. And this is a crucial

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distinction in his philosophy. He rigidly separated

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his personal theological beliefs from his duty

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to public law. Right. He did not believe his

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personal Catholicism should dictate the criminal

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code for all Canadians. He recognized that a

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pluralistic society cannot function if one group's

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religious doctrine is weaponized as state law.

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Wow. It feels like he was a whistleblower inside

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his own party. In modern politics, where towing

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the party line is everything, could a Warren

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All -Man even survive today? That's a great question.

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Probably not for very long. Yeah. He retired

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from parliament before the 1997 election, essentially

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pushed out of federal power. Once you've alienated

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your own party and left the federal system, what

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is left? Not much for most politicians. Right.

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But for All -Man, the transition was completely

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seamless. He just took his fight outside the

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system, proving his principles weren't just for

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a political show. He began scaling his anti -authoritarian

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philosophy to different levels. Globally, he

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took over as the president of the International

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Center for Human Rights and Democratic Development,

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replacing Ed Broadbent. He brought his focus

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on Indigenous rights to the international stage,

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heavily supporting the drafting of the International

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Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.

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He was also an active participant in the negotiations

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for the Good Friday Agreement in Ireland, wasn't

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he? He was, which is actually where he met his

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second wife, Rosemary. Oh, wow, that's amazing.

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But then we get this incredible full circle moment

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on the federal level in 2005. He serves as legal

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counsel for the International Civil Liberties

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Monitoring Group during the Marr Air Inquiry.

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Right. And for context, Mar Air was a Canadian

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citizen who was detained during a layover in

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the United States and deported to Syria, where

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he was tortured for nearly a year. Horrible story.

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It is. It later came to light that the RCMP had

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provided the Americans with faulty, misleading

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intelligence that falsely linked Air to terrorism.

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So what does this all mean? The grand irony here

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is staggering. Oh, totally. Almond starts his

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career in the 1970s, trying to control the RCMP

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from the top down, sitting in the Solicitor General's

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chair. 30 years later, he is ending his career

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fighting them from the outside in a public inquiry.

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Arguing that Canada's national security agencies

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were once again choosing security over basic

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human rights and operating completely unaccountably.

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Exactly. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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it shows that for Almond, the venue changed,

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but the mission never wavered. Right. Whether

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he was sitting in the prime minister's cabinet

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or acting as external legal counsel, his goal

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was always protecting the vulnerable from institutional

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overreach. And he even scaled that mission all

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the way down to the municipal level. In 2005,

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he ran for Montreal City Council. He did. His

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primary goal was to help oversee the city's implementation

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of a rights charter that he had personally helped

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draft. But true to form, even as a member of

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the Mayor's Union Montreal Party, he constantly

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criticized his own mayor, Gerald Tremblay, whenever

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he disagreed with him. Of course he did. He even

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voted against the mayor's motion to rename Park

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Avenue. He just couldn't help himself, and if

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he thought the boss was wrong, He remained fiercely

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independent, constantly scrutinizing the mechanisms

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of power. In 2011, he supported the Canadian

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vote for Gaza to deliver supplies to Palestinians.

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Right. And in 2014, he fought against a Canadian

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bill designed to implement a global convention

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on cluster munitions. Right, because he actually

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read the fine print. He always read the fine

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print. He argued that a specific clause in the

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bill gave Canada an explicit exemption to use

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these weapons during joint military operations

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with non signatories like the United States.

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Exactly. He pointed out that Australia and New

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Zealand had passed similar legislation without

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creating that loophole and he warned that Canada's

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exemption would just encourage other countries

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to ruin the integrity of the treaty. Yeah. He

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was sharp on the absolute mechanics of the law

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right up until the end. He was. Warren Allman

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passed away from terminal brain cancer in December

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2016 at the age of 84. His legacy is still highly

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visible today though. In 2023 Somerald Park,

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which is right in the middle of the Montreal

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constituency he represented for over 30 years,

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was officially renamed Warren Almond Park. It's

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a fitting tribute. It really is a fitting permanent

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tribute for a guy who spent his entire life standing

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his ground. Which brings us back to where we

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started. I want you to think about your own life

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and career. Yeah. How often do we accept the

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notwithstanding clauses at our jobs? the little

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moral compromises, the turning a blind eye to

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lazy goobledygook excuses, just to keep the peace

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with our bosses or our peers. It happens all

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the time. Allman's life is a reminder that you

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don't actually have to compromise your core principles,

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though you might occasionally have to borrow

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a tie from a rival to get your point across.

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It is a deeply challenging legacy, and it leaves

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us with something critical to mull over, especially

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regarding his stance on the death penalty referendum.

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It's a Well, Almond warned that ruling by plebiscite,

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just doing whatever the polls say in the heat

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of the moment, would open the door to dangerous

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reactionary governance. In today's hyper connected

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world where politicians have instant access to

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real time polling. algorithmic feedback, and

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constant social media outrage, we have to ask.

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Have we completely lost the era of the deliberative

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representative? Wow, that's a great point. And

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if we replace moral conviction with algorithmic

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crowd pleasing, what happens to the minority

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voices when the majority decides they are expendable?

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That is a heavy but absolutely essential question

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to leave on. Thank you so much for joining us

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for this deep dive into the source material.

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Keep questioning, keep learning, and we will

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catch you on the next one.
