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So if you live in Southern California, your mortgage

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might actually secretly be funded by the ghost

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of a 1990s paper company. Right. Or maybe your

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car loan is backed by a like a totally defunct

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collective of mobile homeowners. Yeah, exactly.

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Because, I mean, usually when you picture your

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local bank or your credit union, you just see

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this quiet, slightly boring building on the corner.

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Oh, totally. You just walk in, deposit a check,

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maybe get a lollipop if you're lucky, and you

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leave. Right. It feels completely static, like

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it just, I don't know, sprouted out of the concrete

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one day, fully formed, complete with a drive

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-through ATM and a stack of auto loan brochures.

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Yeah, we tend to view these local financial institutions

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as perma - like these unchanging fixtures of

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the neighborhood landscape. We just walk past

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them every day. Exactly. And we assume they have

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always been exactly what they are right now,

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operating under the same name and serving the

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exact same purpose. Well, today we are going

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to completely shatter that illusion, so welcome

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to the deep dive. Our mission today is to explore

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the hidden, surprisingly dramatic history of

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local finance. It's a lot more dramatic than

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you'd think. Oh, it really is. We're focusing

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our lens on a single source today, which is a

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timeline detailing the history of Southland Credit

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Union. Right. We're going to unpack how a tiny,

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almost incredibly fragile financial experiment,

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one that was started by just a few volunteers

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during the absolute depths of the Great Depression,

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somehow snowballed into a one point $3 billion

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modern financial institution. It completely upends

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our assumptions about how modern banking footprints

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are actually built, you know? Yeah. Because this

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isn't just a dry corporate history of a bank

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slowly accumulating assets over the decades.

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Not at all. It's this fascinating window into

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how hyper -niche micro communities, and I mean,

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we are talking about everyone from internal revenue

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service agents to Marine Corps personnel banded

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together, collided, and merged over the last

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century, really, just to survive an increasingly

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ruthless economic landscape. It's wild. OK, let's

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unpack. this and wind the clock all the way back

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to very beginning. So the year is 1936. Right

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1936. Kick your Los Angeles in the absolute thick

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of the Great Depression. The traditional banking

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system is just in shambles. Thousands of banks

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have failed nationwide. Yeah, it was a disaster.

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And if you're a regular working class person

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doing physical labor, getting a fair loan from

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a traditional commercial bank is practically

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impossible. Absolutely impossible. Right. So

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in that unforgiving environment, our timeline

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shows that Southland Credit Union was established

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specifically to serve the employees of the Los

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Angeles County Flood Control District. Which

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is such a specific group. So specific. And it

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was started by just seven volunteers. Just seven

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individuals taking on the responsibility of managing

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the financial needs of their coworkers during

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literally one of the most volatile economic periods

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in American history. I mean, I just marvel at

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the sheer audacity of those humble beginnings.

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You know, you have these folks out there dealing

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with Los Angeles flood control, digging channels,

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pouring concrete, managing water infrastructure

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for the county. More labor, yeah. Exactly. And

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then on the side, they are running this localized

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financial cooperative. It's incredible. To me,

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it feels less like the foundation of a billion

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dollar financial empire and more like a, well,

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like a modern day crowdfunding campaign. Oh,

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that's a good way to look at it. It's like a

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group of coworkers simply passing a hat around

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the break room to create a localized mutual aid

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fund because literally nobody else is going to

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look out for them. Right. And what's fascinating

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here is that that concept of mutual aid is the

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defining mechanical difference of a not for profit

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community chartered institution. OK. How so.

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Well in 1936 you couldn't just walk in off the

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street show a driver's license and open an account.

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Right. You had to be a verified part of that

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specific flood control workforce. It operates

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on a closed -loop system of peer trust. Oh, I

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see. When you are lending money to the person

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you stand next to in a trench for 10 hours a

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day, the risk model changes entirely. Because

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you actually know them. Exactly. The default

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rate is going to be incredibly low because you

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are trusting each other with your collective

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livelihoods. Wow, yeah, it's an enforced social

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accountability. You aren't going to default on

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a $50 loan when the guy who approved the paperwork

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is sitting across from you in the cafeteria eating

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a sandwich. You'd never hear the end of it. No,

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you'd be shunned. But OK, that hyper local, highly

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exclusive club design begs a massive logistical

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question. Right. How on earth does a break room

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side project run by seven guys managing LA floodwaters

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eventually evolve into a $1 .3 billion entity

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serving two massive populous counties? Well,

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simply put, they had to figure out how to legally

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let more people into that proverbial break room.

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Right. And that requirement sparked what can

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really only be described as a decades long administrative

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identity crisis. Not just intense. To understand

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how that The single -passed hat turned into a

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billion -dollar vault. We really have to look

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at the incredibly complex bureaucratic gymnastics

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they started executing, particularly in the 1990s.

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Here's where it gets really interesting, because

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the administrative whiplash in their historical

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timeline is just staggering. Let's track the

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legal uniforms they kept trying on. Let's do

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it. OK, so in 1944, they secure a state charter

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and officially change their name to Los Angeles

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County Civic Center Credit Union. Which makes

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logical sense. Right. They are expanding outward

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from just flood control to broader municipal

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Exactly. Then in 1981 they moved their corporate

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office out of Los Angeles and over to Downey.

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Still tracking smoothly. But the 1990s is where

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the legal maneuvering goes into absolute overdrive.

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Oh gets chaotic. Total chaos. In 1994 they suddenly

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decide to get a federal charter. They changed

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the name to Southland Civic Federal Credit Union.

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Big federal move. Right. But then just five years

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later in 1999, they abruptly throw the car in

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reverse, convert back to a state charter, drop

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the federal from the name, and become Southland

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Civic Credit Union. Just a total 180. Yeah. And

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finally, in 2002, they dropped the civic entirely,

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settled on simply Southland Credit Union, and

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moved the headquarters to Los Alamitos. Going

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from a state charter to a federal charter and

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then retreating back to a state charter just

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five years later is a massive operational upheaval.

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I am just picturing the poor mid -level managers

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dealing with that. Oh, the logistics alone. Ordering

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new letterhead, swapping out the signage on the

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building, rewriting every single internal policy

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document, and filing mountains of compliance

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paperwork every few years. It's a nightmare.

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To me, that doesn't look like a board of directors

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being indecisive. That looks like an organization

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desperately trying to exploit a regulatory loophole

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so they can break out of their original civic

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center borders. You've isolated the exact mechanism

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driving this behavior. It really all comes down

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to the mechanics of what are called field of

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membership rules. Okay, field of membership.

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Right. State charters and federal charters operate

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under entirely different regulatory frameworks

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governed by completely different agencies. Historically,

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federal charters had incredibly strict rigid

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rules about who could actually join the credit

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union. you literally had to share an undeniable

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common bond. Like what kind of bond? Like working

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for the exact same corporation or belonging to

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the same union or living in a very narrowly defined

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specific neighborhood. Okay, so it's like trying

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to play Major League Baseball, but realizing

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you're still legally registered as a Little League

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team. You have to keep aggressively changing

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your legal status just to be allowed onto the

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bigger field. Exactly. And the rules of that

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field were shifting beneath their feet in real

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time. In the late 1990s, the traditional commercial

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banking lobby was furious that these tax -exempt

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credit unions were growing so large. Oh, I bet

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they were. Oh, yeah. They sued, and the courts

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started heavily cracking down on federal credit

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unions that were getting too broad with their

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membership criteria. So they were getting boxed

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in. The federal regulators were essentially forcing

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these institutions to stay small. So by flipping

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back to a state charter in 1999, Southland was

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strategically dodging those strict federal limits.

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That makes so much sense now. Yeah, the California

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State Charter generally offered much more flexibility

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and a much looser interpretation of how you could

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actually define your community. So all those

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boardroom meetings, the endless paperwork, the

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continuous rebranding from the hyper -specific

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L .A. County Civic Center to the vague, all -encompassing

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Southland. It was all prep work. It was laying

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the tracks for a massive train that was coming.

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They were building the legal scaffolding required

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to start absorbing people who had absolutely

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nothing to do with Los Angeles county government.

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Without locking down that perfectly flexible

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state regulatory structure. They never could

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have legally justified the relentless wave of

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acquisitions they needed to build their asset

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pool. They needed that flexibility. Right. They

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found their regulatory escape hatch and they

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immediately utilized it to grow. Which launches

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us perfectly into the wildest, most fascinating

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era of this timeline. The Pac -Man era. Yes.

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From roughly 1989 through 2024, they go on an

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absolute spree. I look at this as the era of

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hyper niche mergers. That's a great name for

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it. Because once they had that flexible structure

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in place, they started playing Pac -Man across

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Southern California. And the list of groups they

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absorbed is the most eclectic, almost bizarre

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mix of human beings you could possibly imagine.

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It really reads like a sweeping cross -section

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of the entire California economy. I'm just going

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to read some of these off because it's nuts.

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In 1989, they merged with the Mobile Homeowners

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Federal Credit Union. In 1991, they absorbed

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the Graphic Arts Credit Union and Saints Federal

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Credit Union. By 1996, they bring in Sunrise

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First Federal Credit Union, which was set up

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exclusively for the employees of the Simpson

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Paper Company. Paper Company workers. Yeah. And

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then in 1999, they absorbed the Los Angeles Internal

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Revenue Service Employees Federal Credit Union.

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I mean Pivoting your membership base from paper

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company workers and mobile homeowners to federal

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IRS agents is a staggering cultural leap for

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any institution. But it keeps going. They take

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in Famco Federal representing Ameron employees,

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which is now National Oil Well Virgo. In 2009,

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they swallow Cityside Federal Credit Union, which

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formerly operated as the Los Angeles Times Federal

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Credit Union. So now you have newspaper reporters

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in the mix. Oh, well. In 2012, they absorbed

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Santa Monica City employees. they bring in Patriots

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Federal Credit Union out in Tustin, capturing

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legacy military personnel from the Marine Corps

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Air Station El Toro. Every single one of those

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legacy institutions had its own insular culture,

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its own board of directors, and its own deeply

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ingrained way of doing business. OK, wait. I

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have to push back on this entire strategy, though.

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OK, go for it. Think about the defining characteristic

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of a credit union. The entire reason those flood

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control workers started this experiment in 1936.

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It was built on tight -knit, closed -loop community

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trust. Right, the break room. Doesn't mashing

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all of these radically different hyper specific

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groups into one giant corporate pot completely

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destroy that original purpose. Well, I mean,

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an IRS agent has absolutely nothing in common

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with a guy rolling paper at the Simpson Paper

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Company or a journalist at the L .A. Times. They

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don't know each other. They certainly aren't

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passing a hat around the same break room. No,

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you're right. From a purely romantic historical

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standpoint, that dilution of the original local

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bond is exactly what happened. The break room

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intimacy is entirely gone. But if we connect

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this to the bigger picture. Looking at the harsh

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economic reality of the late 20th and early 21st

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centuries, this Pac -Man strategy of absorbing

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diverse groups wasn't about abandoning community

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principles. Then what was it about? It was the

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only mathematical way to survive. The entire

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banking industry was undergoing a massive technological

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arms race. Ah, okay. You are talking about the

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shift from physical branch banking to ATMs, online

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portals, and mobile apps. Exactly. Think about

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the staggering overhead required for modern banking

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infrastructure. Today, Southland's 70 ,000 member

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owners expect a full spectrum of financial products.

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They want the app. They demand a seamless iOS

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and Android mobile app. They want sophisticated

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30 -year fixed mortgage lending, zero liability

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debit cards, and military -grade cybersecurity

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to protect their digital deposits. It is not

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cheap. Not at all. A tiny 500 -member credit

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union that only serves the employees of a single

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paper company or just a collective of mobile

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homeowners simply does not have the capital to

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build that tech. Yeah, I guess a 500 -member

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credit union certainly can't afford to hire a

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dedicated full -time cybersecurity team. They

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would be bankrupt in a month. They would slowly

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bleed out. Their members would inevitably close

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their accounts and move their money to a Chase

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or a Bank of America simply for the convenience

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of being able to deposit a check from their smartphone.

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Right. Convenience always wins. So these micro

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communities faced a brutal existential choice.

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Maintain their extreme exclusivity. and slowly

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die, or pool their resources. By bringing the

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newspaper reporters, the Marines, the IRS agents,

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and the paper workers under one massive roof,

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Southland achieved the economy of scale necessary

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to fund that billion -dollar tech infrastructure.

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They traded intimacy for survival. They sacrificed

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the exclusivity of the 1930s break room to ensure

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that all of those individual members still had

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a not -for -profit financial home that could

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actually offer them modern conveniences. Man,

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it is a harsh adapt or die ecosystem. You either

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merge your tiny neighborhood fund into a larger

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regional network or you cease to exist entirely.

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But as we look at the tail end of the timeline,

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This shotgun approach to mergers just grabbing

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whatever eclectic group of workers needs a lifeline.

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It sharpens into something much more calculated.

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It really does. In the late 2010s and 2020s,

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they stop absorbing random paper companies and

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execute a highly targeted push into one specific

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critical sector, which is health care. Yeah,

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the overarching strategy clearly matures here.

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They recognize that the medical field offers

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a uniquely stable demographic profile. Let's

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look at the board. In 2014, they bring in Westside

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Employees Federal Credit Union, capturing the

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staff at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica.

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Right. Three years later, in 2017, they merged

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with Harbor Federal Credit Union, bringing in

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the massive workforce of Harbor UCLA Medical

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Center. Another huge one. And the absolute crown

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jewel happens in 2024, merging with Allied Health

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Care Federal Credit Union. That single move brought

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in health care workers across Long Beach Memorial

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Medical Center, St. Mary Medical Center, and

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St. Francis. Medical Center in Linwood. Focusing

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intensely on health care is just brilliant from

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a risk management perspective. Well, medical

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professionals, nurses, and hospital administrative

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staff generally have highly stable jobs. They

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have predictable income trajectories and they

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operate in an industry that is essentially recession

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proof. Oh, that makes total sense. People always

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need hospitals. Right. So by systematically building

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a massive footprint within the regional medical

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community, Southland anchors its billion dollar

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asset pool with some of the most reliable borrowers

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in the modern economy. So what does this all

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mean? They took that flexible state charter they

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fought so hard for in the 90s, proved they could

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manage the complex integrations with the IRS

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agents and the newspaper staff, and then use

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that operational muscle to swallow a massive

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chunk of the Southern California health care

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sector. Yeah, that's the playbook. Which brings

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us to their modern footprint today. They currently

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operate 11 branches. They serve any resident

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across Los Angeles and Orange counties. And they're

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sitting on $1 .3 billion in total assets. It's

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massive. systematically blanketed the map geographically

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and demographically. They even went out of their

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way in 2011 to acquire a specific physical branch

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in Garden Grove from a community bank just to

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plug a hole in their physical coverage. The overarching

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journey is really a master class in institutional

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evolution. They morphed from an incredibly exclusive

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club for one specific flood control job site

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into a sprawling regional powerhouse. Yeah. The

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70 ,000 member owners today aren't just holding

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basic checking accounts. They are interacting

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with an institution built on the merged assets,

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the struggles and the mutual trust of dozens

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of forgotten, highly specific local communities

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spanning nearly a century. It fundamentally changes

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how you view the landscape of your own neighborhood.

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We really want you the listener to think about

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where your own money sleeps at night Absolutely.

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Whether you bank with a giant multinational corporation

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or a small local branch down the street, that

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seemingly mundane quiet credit union on the corner

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with its drive -through and its mortgage brochures

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likely has a wild hidden history encoded into

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its DNA. It's rarely as simple as it looks. Your

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local branch might literally be built on the

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absorbed remnants of legacy military bases, defunct

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factories, or hyper niche micro communities that

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don't even exist anymore. You know, this raises

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an important question. It forces us to consider

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a rather profound reality about the future of

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finance. What's that? If incredibly niche, tight

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-knit groups, like a cooperative solely for the

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employees of a single paper company or an air

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station, eventually have to merge into billion

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-dollar entities just to afford a mobile app

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and survive, is the era of the truly small, neighborhood

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-specific financial institution completely gone

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forever? Wow. It's a heavy, fascinating thought

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to chew on the next time you drive past your

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local branch. Thank you for joining us on this

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deep dive into the surprisingly dramatic world

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of local finance. We'll catch you on the next

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one.
