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You know, usually when we walk into a museum,

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we expect this very, very clear division of time

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and space. Right. Yeah. Like the eras are separated.

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Exactly. The contemporary art is in that like

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bright, airy new wing. And then the historical

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artifacts are kept safely behind thick glass

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down in the dimly lit basement somewhere. Right.

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We really expect things to be neatly categorized.

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Yeah. You don't just walk into the lobby and

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see a brand new wildly abstract sculpture sitting

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on the exact same pedestal as a, I don't know,

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a 50 -year -old restored artifact? No, definitely

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not. And with the artist standing right there

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telling you you have to look at both of them

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simultaneously to understand either one. Right,

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because it just completely shatters that comfortable

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linear timeline that we like to rely on. Yeah.

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Viewing art or history that way, it forces you

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to see the active, ongoing conversation happening

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between completely different eras. And that beautifully

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complicated sort of era landscape is the exact

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territory we are exploring today. We're doing

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a deep dive into Joe Lovano's 2006 jazz album,

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Streams of Expression. It's such a perfect example

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of this. It really is. We're looking at this

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because it's a fascinating case study in how

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creative masters balance honoring the history

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of their field with forging their own completely

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new path. Yeah, I mean, we are really looking

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at a master class in synthesis here. For you

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listening, if you're trying to understand why

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certain artistic or professional choices are

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made and how someone takes multiple eras of complex

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information and turns them into one cohesive

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statement, this album is basically the blueprint.

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To set the scene a bit. Reaching your 20th studio

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album on a legendary label like Blue Note. That

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is a milestone that very few artists ever see.

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Oh, absolutely. It's rare air. Right. And Lovano

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used that platform to deliver this sprawling

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epic that clocks in at, let me check, one hour.

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13 minutes and 54 seconds. It's massive. So,

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okay, let's unpack this. We're going to examine

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the ambitious architecture of this album, the

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deeply historical roots it relies on, the completely

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divided critical reception it provoked, and the

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massive web of jazz history brought into the

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studio by the personnel. And honestly, the timeline

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of the album's creation is the first indicator

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of just how ambitious this project actually is.

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Oh, definitely. The sheer physical reality of

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building this record provides the context for

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pretty much everything else we are going to discuss.

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Yeah, because the recording process here is a

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massive departure from how most modern music

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is made. Right. This entire hour plus of complex

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music was recorded over just two days, December

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13th and 14th, 2005, at Avatar Studios in New

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York City. Which is wild to think about. I mean,

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producing over 73 minutes of finalized, intricately

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arranged music in 48 hours That requires an intense

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logistical and artistic sprint. It really does

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because, you know, in a lot of modern recording,

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even back in 2005, artists had the luxury of

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tracking instruments one by one. Right. Using

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isolation booths and all that. Exactly. Spending

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weeks editing or fixing mistakes digitally. But

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tackling a massive acoustic ensemble project

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in two days means you are recording live in the

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room. Just everyone together. Yeah. It requires

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immense level of fluency from every single musician

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involved. The technical proficiency has to be

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so deeply ingrained that they don't even have

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to think about the notes. They just play. Right.

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They only have to think about the expression.

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Deep, rigorous preparation is literally the only

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thing that allows for that kind of spontaneous

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fluid execution under that much pressure. And

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the track list reveals just how much structure

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they had to navigate in those two days. The album

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rests on basically three distinct structural

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pillars. Right, the architecture. Yeah, so the

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first pillar is the completely original five

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-part streams of expression suite. Which is just

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incredible on its own. Yeah, this features movements

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titled streams, cool, enchantment, second nature,

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and the fire prophets. And that is really the

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forward -looking component of the record. It

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is a newly commissioned work operating as a continuous

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thematic narrative rather than just, you know,

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five random songs placed next to each other.

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Right. Then the second pillar is a three -part

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suite dedicated entirely to the birth of the

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cool. The historical anchor. Exactly. And surrounding

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those two massive suites, the third pillar consists

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of three standalone works. You've got blue sketches.

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Big Ben and a track called Buckeyes. Oh, Buckeyes

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is a beast. Yeah, it actually takes up a massive

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piece of real estate on its own. It comes in

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at nine and a half minutes, making the longest

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individual track on the whole album. Which brings

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us right back to that architecture of museum

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analogy. It is a highly deliberate layout. Right.

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You have the wing dedicated to newly commissioned

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modern art, which is Lovano's original five part

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suite. Yeah. Then you walk down the hall into

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the historical wing, displaying the carefully

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restored artifacts. That's the birth of the cool

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suite. Beautifully put. And scattered around

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the lobby to sort of tie the whole building together.

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You have those standalone sculptures. the shorter

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tracks like Blue Sketches and Buckeyes. And moving

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from that modern art wing into the historical

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wing is where the project takes a major philosophical

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risk. How so? Well, dedicating a massive chunk

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of a 20th anniversary milestone album to another

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artist's past is just a really unexpected structural

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choice. Yeah, let's examine that historical wing

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because the birth of the cool suite utilizes

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melodic themes inspired directly by Miles Davis's

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iconic 1948 and 1950 nonet. Right. The tracks

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are arranged as these dense medleys. You have

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Prelude Moon Dreams, then a massive eight -minute

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block of interlude number one, move interlude

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number two, and finally, publicity parslew. Such

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heavy arrangements. And the sources also note

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a crucial detail here. This specific suite was

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conducted by Gunther Schuller. Which is huge.

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A nonet is a nine -piece band, and it is a notoriously

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difficult format to write and arrange for. I

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can imagine. Yeah, with nine pieces, usually

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a rhythm section paired with a heavy layered

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horn section like French horns and tubas. You

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are trying to harness the dense sweeping power

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of a full orchestra. But with way fewer people.

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Exactly. But you still have to maintain the agility

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and the improvisational freedom of a small jazz

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club combo. It is a really precarious balancing

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act. OK, I have to challenge the overarching

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premise of this choice, though. Go for it. If

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Joe Lovano is celebrating his 20th album for

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Blue Note, a moment that really should be the

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ultimate showcase of his own singular voice,

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why hand over a massive percentage of the runtime

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to someone else's 50 -year -old music? That's

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the big question. Right. From a listener's perspective,

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playing classic Miles Davis coons in 2006 feels

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almost like a commercial safety net. It guarantees

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a certain level of built -in audience familiarity.

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Doesn't that risk turning a milestone solo project

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into just a high -end tribute act? That's a fair

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point, but the involvement of Gunther Schuller

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is actually the mechanism that prevents this

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from becoming a tribute act. Really? How so?

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Well, having a conductor in a jazz session is

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an anomaly. Jazz is largely built on nonverbal

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communication. Right, like a nod or eye contact.

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Yeah, a breath, eye contact across the room.

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Bringing in a conductor means the music is so

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architecturally demanding, so densely layered,

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that the ensemble literally requires a focal

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point to navigate the score. Oh, wow. I hadn't

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thought about it like that. Yeah, Shuler's presence

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signals that this is a rigorous intellectual

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inquiry, not just a casual walk down memory lane.

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Livano is demonstrating that reaching a level

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of mastery doesn't mean you graduate out of the

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history. You don't just leave it behind. No,

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you enter into a more complex, active conversation

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with it. He is taking the foundational texts

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of the genre and proving he can integrate them

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seamlessly into his own contemporary vision.

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But taking that kind of historical risk in a

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modern studio and environment, is exactly what

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fractured the critical response when the album

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was released. Oh, completely. The sources give

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us two very distinct, almost contradictory perspectives

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on whether this experiment actually worked. And,

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you know, a deep split in critical reception

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usually indicates that a piece of art is challenging

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the standard rubrics we use to evaluate media.

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Yeah, so on one side we have Steve Greenlee writing

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for Jazz Times. He approached the album with

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a fair amount of skepticism, calling it a sequel

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to Lovano's 1995 album, Rush Hour. Which is kind

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of a backhanded compliment. Yeah. Greenlee noted

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that the music is interesting enough, particularly

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when Lovano is taking his own solos. Right. but

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he was incredibly blunt about its lifespan, stating

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that this is not a disc that will find itself

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in his CD changer often. Ouch. Yeah, in his view,

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Lovano's original suite constituted the much

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better portion of the album, and the historical

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explorations basically dragged the project down.

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Well, Greenlee is evaluating the album through

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the lens of pure utility and replayability. Right.

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The CD changer test is all about immediate gratification.

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He is looking for the visceral thrill of a modern

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jazz solo. He wants the bright lights of the

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modern art wing, and he finds the historical

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museum tour tedious. Contrast that, though, with

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John Fordham's review in The Guardian. Fordham

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was a massive champion of the album. Total opposite

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reaction. Yeah, he specifically focused on the

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historical suites, stating that Lovano and Shuler

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managed to avoid simply polishing the glossy

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surfaces of legacy jazz. That's such a great

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phrase. It is. Fordham argued that instead of

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creating a static homage, the ensemble looked

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backward to the genre's pre -bop roots and simultaneously

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looked forward to the free jazz that those roots

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eventually helped release. And polishing the

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glossy surfaces is a brilliant way to describe

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the danger of nostalgia. Oh, definitely. Nostalgia

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tends to buff out the rough, radical edges of

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history to make it more palatable for modern

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audiences. Fordham is arguing that Lovano retained

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the friction of the original music. Right. He

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kept the grit. Exactly. And to understand Fordham's

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praise, we really have to define those two eras

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he mentions, pre bop and free jazz. Let's do

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it. So pre bop refers to the highly arranged,

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structured, often danceable music of the big

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band era before musicians like Charlie Charlie

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Parker shattered all the rules with bebop. And

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then free jazz is the complete opposite end of

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the spectrum. It is the avant -garde movement

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of the 1960s that tore down traditional chordal

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structures in favor of pure unbound emotional

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expression. So what does this all mean? How can

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an album simultaneously look backward to rigid,

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arranged structures and forward to unbound chaos?

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It's a paradox, right? It is. And more importantly,

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how can two professional critics listen to the

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exact same 73 minutes of music and walk away

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with such drastically different valuations of

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its worth? I think it really comes down to what

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we expect from the media we consume. Greenlee

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values the immediate personal expression of the

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soloist. Fordham values historical synthesis.

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Fordham is listening for the architectural connections

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between eras. So they're just measuring different

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things entirely. Exactly. And being truly well

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-informed requires holding both of these perspectives

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at the same time. An album can be a brilliant,

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academically rigorous piece of historical synthesis,

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and it can also be something that requires too

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much mental bandwidth to put on repeat in your

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car during a commute. That makes a lot of sense.

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But, you know, to successfully execute the kind

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of historical synthesis Fordham is talking about,

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to build a bridge between the rigid arrangements

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of pre bop and the wild frontiers of free jazz,

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you cannot rely on standard studio session players.

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Oh, absolutely not. You need a brain trust. You

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need musicians whose own lived experiences map

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the exact history of the genre you're trying

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to explore. Because an ambitious concept falls

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apart if the personnel in the room don't possess

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the vocabulary to actually articulate it, you

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need an ensemble that basically embodies the

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timeline. And Lovano assembled a massive roster

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to achieve this. Alongside Lovano on alto clarinet

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and tenor sax, and Schuller conducting, the ensemble

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features George Garzone and Ralph Lollema also

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on tenor sax. Heavy hitters. Right. You have

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Gary Smullian on baritone sax, Tim Hagens and

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Barry Reisz on trumpet, Lewis Nash on drums,

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and Dennis Erwin on bass. Such a great lineup.

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But the source material provides an incredibly

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detailed look at one specific member of this

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brain truck. the pianist John Hicks. Yes, John

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Hicks serves as the perfect case study for how

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an artist's unseen resume shapes the final product

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of a collaborative environment. When you examine

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John Hicks' discography, the sheer weight of

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his experience is staggering. It really is. He

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was recording as a bandleader as early as 1975

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with albums like Hell's Bells and Steadfast,

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but it is his collaborative wingspan that reveals

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his true value to a session like this. Oh, for

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sure. In the 1960s and 70s, he was playing with

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Art Blakey in the Jazz Messengers, appearing

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on albums like A Smake It in 1964, and Child's

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Dance in 1972. And playing with Art Blakey anchors

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a musician firmly in the hard bop tradition.

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Right, which is what exactly. Hard bop is defined

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by heavy, driving, blues -drenched rhythms. It

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is sweat on the cymbals music. I love that description.

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Yeah. For a pianist like Hicks, playing in the

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Jazz Messengers meant learning how to highly

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percussive anchoring chords that could cut through

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a really dense rhythm section. So you really

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had to hit those keys. Exactly. It requires a

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very specific aggressive physical approach to

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the keyboard. Okay, so you take that aggressive

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driving foundation and then you look further

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down his resume. Yeah. By the late 70s and 80s,

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Hicks is playing with Pharaoh Sanders on albums

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like Journey to the One in 1979 and Rejoice in

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Africa in the early 80s. Which requires an entirely

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different musical vocabulary. Really? How is

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it different? Well, Farrah Sanders is a pioneer

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of spiritual jazz. This is expansive meditative

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music that pushes deep into avant -garde tonal

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boundaries. Oh, wow. Instead of punching out

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heavy rhythmic chords, a pianist playing spiritual

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jazz has to create floating impressionistic textures.

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They are playing outside the traditional chord

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changes to create a mood rather than just a beat.

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That is a massive shift, and the timeline keeps

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expanding. Throughout the 80s and 90s, Hicks

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recorded extensively with David Murray on albums

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like Sketches of Tokyo, Ming Samba, and Fast

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Life. He played with Betty Carter, Chico Freeman,

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and Roy Hargrove. His output from the mid -70s

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straight through the early 2000s is essentially

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a living map of modern jazz evolution. And this

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is the critical mechanism behind how Livano's

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album was recorded in just 48 hours. The muscle

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memory. Exactly. When John Hicks sits down at

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the piano at Avatar Studios in December 2005,

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he's not just reading notes off a piece of sheet

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music. He is filtering those notes through 40

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years of muscle memory. He brings the percussive

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drive he learned from Art Blakey and the expansive

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avant -garde textures he explored with Pharaoh

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Sanders directly into Livano's streams of expression.

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Every chord voicing he chooses is informed by

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decades of living at the absolute cutting edge

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of the art form. He is basically a walking, breathing,

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historical wing of the museum. That's a great

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way to put it. When you fill a room with musicians

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who possess resumes like John Hicks and Gunther

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Schuler, the fluency is already established.

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They don't need to spend weeks learning how to

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communicate with each other in the studio. Right.

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They only need to decide which specific conversation

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they're going to have over those two days. Because

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in any collaborative field, the final output

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is always fundamentally shaped by the diverse,

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often completely unseen histories of everyone

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in the room. Yeah. You are never just getting

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their time for a 48 -hour session. You are getting

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the culmination of everywhere they have been

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and every system they have ever worked within.

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So to wrap this up, Streams of Expression is

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far more than just a collection of tracks. It

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is a massive structural achievement that bridges

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the modern invention of Lovano's original suites

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with the foundational, highly arranged history

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of Miles Davis' nonet. It acts as a mirror for

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our own critical expectations, forcing us to

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ask whether we value immediate utility over deep

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historical synthesis. And it relies entirely

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on the deep lived lineage of titans like John

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Hicks to execute that synthesis under the massive

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pressure of a two -day recording sprint. And

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for you listening right now, the underlying mechanics

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of this album extend far beyond music history.

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Yeah, how does this apply to, you know, our everyday

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lives? Well, whether you are prepping for a boardroom

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meeting, designing your product, or just trying

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to master a complex new skill, this album proves

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that true mastery does not mean ignoring what

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came before you just to prove how innovative

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you are. Right. deeply understand and actively

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converse with the foundational roots of your

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field. You have to understand the architecture

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of the past before you can confidently improvise

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and push your field into new territory. You really

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have to master the rules of the museum before

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you can build the new wing. Exactly. John Fordham

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pointed out that this album looked back at the

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rigid structures of pre bop specifically to see

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the wild unbound free jazz that it eventually

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helped release. Yeah. It suggests that history

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always holds the seeds of future rebellion. Which

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kind of leaves us with a fascinating thought.

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Decades from now, when future historians look

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back at the art, the business models, or the

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technology being created by us today, what entirely

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unpredictable future movements will they say

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our current streams of expression helped release?
