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In 2012, the president of the United States picked

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up the phone to personally call a 30 year old

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law student. which is, you know, pretty wild

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to think about. Right. I mean, she hadn't pulled

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someone from a burning building. She hadn't won

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an Olympic medal. And she certainly wasn't a

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celebrity. No, she was just a student. Exactly.

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She had simply done something the rest of us

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almost never do. She actually read the microscopic

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fine print of her student health insurance plan.

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Yeah, the stuff we all just kind of scroll past.

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Right. And somehow that single seemingly mundane

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act accidentally ignited this massive national

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political firestorm. So welcome to today's deep

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dive. Glad to be here for this one. Today for

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you listening, we are taking a look at a detailed

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biographical overview of Sandra Fluke. She's

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an American lawyer and women's rights activist.

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And a really fascinating figure when you look

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at the actual timeline of events. For sure. The

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mission today is to trace her incredibly surreal

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journey from a localized student advocate to

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the dead center of a cultural controversy. We

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really want to understand the actual mechanics

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here. Like, how does a highly localized, painfully

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obscure policy fight become a screaming national

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headline? That's a great question. Okay, let's

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unpack this, because the media at the time really

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loved to frame Sandra Fluke as just a random

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law student who stumbled blindly in front of

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a microphone. Looking at our sources, that narrative

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is just completely backward. Oh, it's a fundamental

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misread of who she was. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean,

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most people don't realize that before she ever

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sat down at that congressional hearing, Fluke

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had spent almost a decade building a very specific

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set of weapons for this exact type of fight.

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Which makes sense. You don't just take on a 200

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-year -old university without some training.

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Right. What kind of training does a person need

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to take on a massive Jesuit University's bureaucracy.

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You don't just walk in off the street and know

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how to dismantle institutional policy. You really

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have to learn how the plumbing of these organizations

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works. So let's look at that toolkit she was

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building. She was born in 1981 in Saxton, Pennsylvania.

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But things get really interesting when she goes

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to Cornell University. That's where the foundation

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is really laid out. Yeah, she graduates in 2003,

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and her degree is a double major in policy analysis

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and management, alongside feminist, gender, and

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sexuality studies. That is not a generic liberal

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arts background. Not at all. That is the exact

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academic blueprint for someone whose entire career

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will involve analyzing how large, stubborn institutional

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rules impact very specific demographics. And

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she didn't just leave that theory in the classroom.

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No, not at all. After Cornell, she moves to New

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York and co -founds the New York Statewide Coalition

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for Fair Access to Family Court. Wow. OK. Yeah.

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And what they were doing there was highly technical.

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They were navigating the legal system to secure

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civil protection orders for victims of intimate

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partner violence. So real on the ground legal

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advocacy. Exactly. Specifically focusing on teenage

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and LGBTQ victims who typically, you know, fall

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right through the cracks of the standard legal

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system. She also worked for an organization called

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Sanctuary for Families aiding domestic violence

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and human trafficking victims. Our sources also

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mentioned she received something called the Fran

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Candle Public Interest Grant. Yes. And that was

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to produce a video literally teaching people,

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step by step, how to obtain a restraining order.

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Think about the mechanics of that for a second.

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Obtaining a restraining order is a bureaucratic

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nightmare for someone in crisis. It's incredibly

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daunting. You have to fill out specific forms,

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file them in the right jurisdictions, and appear

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before judges. She was actively teaching marginalized

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people how to force a massive system to work

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for them. Which is the perfect lens to view her

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next move. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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with all of that background in policy and navigating

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stubborn legal systems, she decides to go to

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Georgetown University Law Center. But she doesn't

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just blindly enroll and pay her tuition. She

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sits down and researches the student health plans

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before she even steps foot in a classroom. Imagine

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doing that. It's like reading the tedious terms

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and conditions before downloading an app. But

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instead of just clicking accept or walking away

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in frustration, you spend three years trying

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to negotiate a better contract with the developers.

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That's a great analogy. Because when she read

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that fine print, she realized birth control was

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not covered by the Jesuit University student

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health plan. Right. Due to their religious affiliations?

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Exactly. And instead of just saying, oh, well,

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I'll pay out of pocket, she dug in. She actually

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stated she wasn't willing to compromise the quality

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of her education in exchange for her health care.

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And here is where we really have to look at the

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how rather than just the what. What do you mean?

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Well, she didn't just hold a protest sign for

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an afternoon. She spent her first three years

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of law school quietly and persistently trying

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to persuade the Georgetown administration to

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change this policy. Three whole years. Yeah.

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That means drafting proposals, analyzing the

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financial impact of the insurance pool, sitting

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in administrative waiting rooms, and having countless

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closed -door meetings with university officials.

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So she was using that exact policy analysis toolkit

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she built at Cornell and in New York. Exactly.

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To find a loophole or a gap in the coverage and

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slowly build an airtight case to close it. But

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this quiet, persistent, hyper -localized advocacy...

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is exactly what put her on the radar of national

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politicians in Washington D .C. It really is.

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Which moves our story away from a quiet campus

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office and directly to the steps of Capitol Hill.

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In February 2012, Democrats invited Fluke to

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speak at a House Oversight and Government Reform

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Committee hearing. Now, we really have to define

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what this hearing was actually about, because

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it is the powder keg for everything that follows.

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Right. Let's set the stage. It was about the

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new administration rules concerning the Conscience

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Clause exceptions in health care, specifically

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tied to the Affordable Care Act. Let's break

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down what a Conscience Clause actually is in

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this context. It essentially acts as a legal

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carve -out. It asks a fundamental question. If

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a federal law mandates that employers provide

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health insurance covering specific services,

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like medicinal contraceptives, should a religiously

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affiliated institution be completely exempt from

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that mandate if providing it violates their core

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religious beliefs? So the Democrats want Sandra

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Fluke on the first panel to represent the perspective

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of the women actually utilizing these specific

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health plans. Exactly, the real -world impact.

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But Daryl Issa, the Republican chairman of the

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committee blocks her from testifying. Hickey

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does. He gives three explicit reasons for shutting

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her out. He says she lacked expertise. He notes

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she wasn't a member of the clergy. And he states

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her name wasn't submitted in time because she

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was blocked. The panel that ended up testifying

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was composed entirely of male clergy and theologians.

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Now I have to play devil's advocate here. OK,

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let's hear it. I know it's easy to look at a

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panel of men discussing women's health care and

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immediately see the optics problem. But looking

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objectively at the strict rules of congressional

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committees, if the GOP framed this theory specifically

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around religious conscience exceptions, did Chairman

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Issa technically have a point? Like, did a law

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student genuinely lack the required theological

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expertise to debate religious doctrine on that

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specific panel? It is a vital question to ask

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if we want to understand the mechanics of this

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controversy. You are looking at a total collision

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of two completely different clashing political

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frameworks here. How so? From the perspective

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of Chairman Issa and the committee's Republican

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leadership, the scope of the hearing was strictly

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about constitutional law, the First Amendment,

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and religious liberty. OK, so a legal and theological

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debate. Yes. So in their framework, the required

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experts for a congressional record are indeed

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theologians, bishops, and religious scholars

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who can debate the granular nuances of religious

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doctrine versus government overreach. Fluke,

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a law student advocating for insurance coding

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changes, does not fit that strict definition

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of expertise. I see. So the two sides were essentially

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speaking different languages and wondering why

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the other couldn't understand them. Precisely.

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The Democrats viewed the hearing scope through

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the framework of practical health care access

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and the real world application of the law. the

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human element. Right. In their framework, the

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most vital expertise isn't theological at all.

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It's the lived experience of the citizens directly

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impacted by the policy gap. That is why they

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wanted fluke. Both sides are operating on entirely

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different definitions of what the hearing is

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fundamentally meant to achieve. So the tension

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is immense. She gets blocked from the official

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committee. But a week later, on February 23rd,

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the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee

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convenes their own separate meeting specifically

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to invite her to speak. And this is where she

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finally delivers her testimony. And what is fascinating

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is that she doesn't sit there and talk about

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her own sex life or her own use of contraceptives.

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She takes a hyper analytical approach. Very analytical.

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She talks about the systemic financial and medical

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impact on her fellow students. She testifies

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that 40 % of Georgetown Law's female population

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suffered financial hardship because of this specific

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insurance gap. And she anchors this data with

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a very specific, undeniable story. She brings

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up a friend who suffered from... polycystic ovary

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syndrome, or PCOS. For those unfamiliar with

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that, what is PCOS? PCOS is a hormonal disorder

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that can cause severe complications. And one

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of the standard medical treatments is prescribing

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contraceptive hormones to regulate the body.

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So it's not just for preventing pregnancy? Not

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at all. Fluke's friend needed... these hormones

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just to treat the disease, which cost over $100

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a month out of pocket. And here is the bureaucratic

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friction that is so infuriating. Georgetown's

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insurance plan actually covered PCOS. It was

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a recognized covered medical condition. Right,

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they agreed she had a medical problem. But the

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insurance company repeatedly denied the medication

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anyway because the company suspected the pills

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were being used for contraception rather than

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treatment. This is exactly what Fluke was trained

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to dismantle. You have a covered disease, but

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the patient is denied a standard necessary treatment

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strictly because of the bureaucratic classification

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of the medication itself. It's madness. It's

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an insurance coding issue that is having devastating

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physical and financial effects on a student.

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And it leads to this incredibly powerful quote

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from her testimony. She tells the room, we refuse

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to pick between a quality education and our health.

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A very strong statement. It was clear. It was

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policy focused and it was deeply rooted in the

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dry mechanics of insurance coding. So you would

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logically think a debate about the nuances of

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insurance coding for PCOS would stay buried on

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C -SPAN 3. You would think so. But here's where

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it gets really interesting. How on earth does

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a specific unglamorous testimony about medical

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bureaucracy end up as the center of the American

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culture wars just days later? What's fascinating

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here is it's like dropping a single drop of water

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into a pan of boiling hot oil. Oh, that's a good

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way to put it. The water isn't trying to cause

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an explosion, it's just existing. But because

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of the volatile environment it lands in, the

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reaction is violent and instantaneous. This is

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a textbook study in how the modern media ecosystem

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can completely hijack and reframe a narrative.

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So what exactly happened? On February 29th, less

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than a week after her testimony, The conservative

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radio host Rush Limbaugh discussed her appearance

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on his nationally syndicated show, and he didn't

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spend a single second attacking her policy analysis

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or her insurance coding arguments. No, he didn't.

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He immediately made it intensely personal and

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vitriolic. He really did. And to accurately report

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what happened here, we just have to look at his

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exact words from the broadcast. According to

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our sources, Limbaugh called her a slut and a

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prostitute on air. His exact quote from the broadcast

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was, She wants you and me and the taxpayers to

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pay her to have sex. Notice how the discourse

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completely detaches from the original source

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material? It's like they're talking about two

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completely different events. Exactly. The original

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debate was about whether a private university's

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health insurance policy should cover a specific

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class of medication for its tuition -paying students.

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But within days, the media machine transformed

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it into a battle over entitlement, taxpayer dollars,

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and highly charged gendered language. The nuance

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of the PCOS medical story was instantly vaporized

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in the noise. Completely gone. Put yourself in

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Sandra Fluke's shoes for a second. You have spent

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years researching university policy. You prepare

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a hyper logical data backed argument. You present

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it to Congress and suddenly you turn on the radio

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and a national host with millions of listeners

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is calling you a prostitute. The psychological

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whiplash of that is just staggering. Her response

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was immediate though. She stated she was stunned

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and outraged, and she brilliantly framed Limbaugh's

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comments not just as a personal insult to her,

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but as a deliberate tactical attempt to silence

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all women from speaking out about their health

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care needs. And the institutional fallout from

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this was massive. Georgetown president John J.

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DeGioia, representing the very Jesuit university

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she was actively fighting against regarding their

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health plan, actually stepped up to publicly

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defend her. Wow, that is significant. It is.

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He issued a statement calling Limbaugh's words

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misogynistic and vitriolic and praised fluke

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as a model of civil discourse. And then it reaches

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the absolute highest levels of government. President

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Barack Obama actually calls her. Which brings

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us back to that incredible phone call. Right.

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The White House explicitly stated the president

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called to express his disappointment over the

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attacks and to thank her for exercising her rights

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as a citizen to speak out on public policy. But,

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you know, the real mechanics of change in this

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media firestorm didn't come from statements of

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support. They came from the economics of broadcasting.

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Following the money. Always. The pressure mounted

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incredibly fast on the business side. Several

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major companies started pulling their advertising

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dollars from the Rush Limbaugh show, and advertisers

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pulling their money shifts the power dynamic

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instantly. Which forces a reaction. On March

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3rd, Limbaugh issues an apology on his website.

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Yes, he does. He states that his choice of words

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was not the best, he claims he was attempting

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to be humorous, and he apologizes for his quote

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insulting word choices. But for Fluke, that apology

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rang completely hollow. She publicly stated she

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found it insufficient. And she had a specific

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reason for that. Right. Yeah. She pointed out

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the mechanism of the apology itself. He only

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issued it after he was under significant financial

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pressure from sponsors who were abandoning the

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show. The cultural ripple effects just kept expanding,

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too. In response to Limbaugh's initial remarks,

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an activist named Susan McMillan Emery. launched

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a public relations campaign called Rock the Slut

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Vote. I remember that. The campaign's stated

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mission was to aggressively reappropriate the

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word Limbaugh used and encourage women to get

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informed, get registered, and vote in the upcoming

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elections. It perfectly illustrates how a single

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highly publicized media attack can organically

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spawn entirely new independent political movements

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that take on a life of their own, completely

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separate from the original insurance policy debate.

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forces fluke into an entirely new reality. This

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intense, completely unasked for media spotlight

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inevitably demands a transition. She has to adapt.

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Yeah, she can no longer just be a law student

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advocating for her campus. The media ecosystem

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has pushed her to become an active, highly visible

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political figure on the national campaign trail.

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By June of 2012, she is writing an op -ed for

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CNN directly supporting President Obama's re

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-election. What were her main points in that

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piece? In it, she cites his support for the Lilly

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Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which was legislation

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aimed at closing the gender wage gap, as well

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as Pell Grants for Student Aid and the Affordable

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Care Act. She has fully integrated into the national

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political apparatus at this point. She goes on

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the road, too. She introduces President Obama

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at a massive campaign rally in Denver. And then

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she gets a featured speaking slot at the 2012

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Democratic National Convention. That's a huge

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stage. In her speech, she takes direct aim at

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the Republican Party's platform, calling it an

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offensive, obsolete relic. Which naturally invites

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a new wave of partisan pushback. Republican Representative

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Joe Walsh of Illinois responds to her convention

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speech by calling her entitled and literally

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telling her to get a job. Fluke fires back, saying

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Walsh was disparaging her entire generation.

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We're seeing the debate operate in on the level

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of cultural symbolism and generational warfare

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now. Yeah, the PCOS insurance coding is a ghost

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of a memory. But let's look at the fascinating

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trajectory of where this takes her. Fast forward

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a couple years to 2014. Fluke is living in West

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Hollywood, she has passed the California bar,

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and she decides to run for office herself. She

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runs for the California State Senate in District

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26 as a Democrat. And this is where the mechanics

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of political capital become really clear. Yeah.

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Despite her massive national profile, despite

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having spoken at the DNC to millions of viewers

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and having the backing of the president of the

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United States just two years prior, she loses

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the election. She lost. She faced a fellow Democrat,

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Ben Allen, in the general election and was defeated

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61 percent to 39 percent. So what does this all

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mean? The contrast there is genuinely wild. She

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reaches the absolute peak of national political

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fame. She has the kind of name recognition that

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politicians spend tens of millions of dollars

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trying to build. She's a household name getting

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calls from the Oval Office. But two years later,

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she cannot secure a local state Senate seat in

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her own district against someone in her own party.

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It's quite the paradox. How does that happen?

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Well, this raises an important question. It exposes

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a massive difference between being a powerful,

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unifying symbol for a national movement and dealing

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with the localized, practical realities of running

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as an administrator in a specific district. Oh,

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that makes a lot of sense. When you are a national

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symbol, people project their broader values onto

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you. To the country, Sandra Fluke represented

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access to health care or fighting misogyny. broad

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sweeping ideals. Exactly. But when you run for

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state Senate, voters don't just want symbols.

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They want to know your highly specific stance

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on local zoning laws, state property taxes, and

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local traffic infrastructure. Being a famous

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national lighten rod doesn't necessarily translate

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into being the preferred local administrator

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for fixing potholes and balancing a municipal

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budget. That is such an incredible distinction.

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It's the difference between holding a megaphone

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and holding a blueprint. Perfectly said. Just

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to round out the personal details from our source,

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she did marry television producer Adam Mutterpearl.

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And they live in the Los Angeles area. And I

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have to mention this because it's just a brilliant

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detail. They have a dog named Mr. President.

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A very fitting nod to the surreal phone call

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that permanently altered the trajectory of her

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life. So let's bring this all together for you

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listening right now. We started with a law student

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who was just deeply annoyed by the fine print

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of her university's health plan. Just trying

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to get her friends some medication. Right. She

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applies her background in policy analysis to

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quietly push for a change. Because she refuses

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to give up, she gets invited to Congress, gets

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blocked by committee rules, testifies anyway,

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and suddenly finds herself the target of a national

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radio host's vitriol. Which then catapults her

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onto the stage of the Democratic National Convention.

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It is an incredible reminder. that speaking up

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about a hyperlocal, tedious policy gap in your

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own life can have unimaginable ripple effects.

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And as we wrap up today, I'd like to leave you

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with a final thought to mull over. Think about

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the concept of the accidental public figure.

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When an everyday person steps up to fix a hyperlocal

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problem in their community, are they ever truly

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prepared for the massive machinery of national

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partisan politics to turn them into a symbol?

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And ultimately, does becoming a massive national

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symbol actually help solve the original localized

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problem they set out to fix? Or does the media

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machine permanently change the message they were

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trying to share in the first place? That is a

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fascinating question to chew on, especially the

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next time you scroll blindly past it. terms and

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conditions agreement. Thank you so much for joining

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us for this deep dive. We will catch you next

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time.
