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Welcome to the Deep Dive. It's really great to

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have you with us today. Yeah, thanks for joining

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us. We've got a really wild one today. We really

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do. I want you to imagine something for a second.

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Imagine being at the absolute pinnacle of your

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career, right? You're playing to sold -out arenas

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worldwide, making millions, and then you just

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decide to... Well, you just walk away from the

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machine. You just pack it in. Right. You go home

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and you officially retire. But then a few short

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years later, you come roaring back with a massive

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multi -platinum return. But this return completely

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reconfigures your sound and honestly, your entire

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creative process. And it's never a smooth transition

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when that happens. Exactly. So today's mission

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is to explore that exact scenario. We were looking

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at the incredibly chaotic creation, the scrapped

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recording sessions, and the somewhat paradoxical

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success of Ozzy Osbourne's 1995 studio album,

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Osmosis. The narrative behind the specific record

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is really a masterclass in how messy and, frankly,

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psychologically taxing the music industry can

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be behind closed doors. It really is. And for

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our source today, we're relying on a comprehensively

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detailed Wikipedia article that breaks down the

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entire history of the album. Yeah, it goes deep

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into the intense production. and its deeply fractured

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reception. It provides a stark look at the friction

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between an artist's vision and a record label's

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commercial demands. Especially during a really

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transitional era in rock music. So we want to

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extract the ultimate insights from the making

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of this album. We're going to figure out how

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a supposed permanent retirement turned into a

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comeback fraught with psychological warfare in

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the recording studio. Yeah. Okay, let's unpack

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this. So to set the stage, coming off the absolute

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juggernaut that was No More Tears in 1991, Ozzy

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was at the top of the mountain. He was huge.

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Massive. And he called the accompanying tour

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the No More Tours Tour. Which is pretty clear.

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Right, a definitive statement. He was burned

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out on the lifestyle, the touring, the relentless

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cycle of the industry. He basically just wanted

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out. But his retirement... Didn't last very long

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at all. And the reason he gave for coming back

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is honestly one of the most relatable things

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you will ever read from a legendary rock front

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man. It really humanizes him. It does. When talking

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about his return to music, Ozzy joked, and I

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quote, he said, if you stayed at home day in

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and day out for three years with your wife and

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a house full of screaming kids, you'd want to

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get back out on the road too. It's just so funny.

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You have this larger than life figure of heavy

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metal essentially admitting that mundane domestic

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life was driving him up the wall. Yeah. And most

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people listening to this have probably experienced

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that feeling, you know, being trapped in a chaotic

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house and just needing an escape. How long would

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you last before needing a break? Probably not

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three years. Right. But for Ozzy, that escape

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just happens to be a multimillion dollar recording

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studio and a tour bus. Right. Exactly. So he

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decides to end the hiatus. And when you are making

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a grand return like this, you don't just throw

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together a garage band. The personnel brought

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in Fraz Hosis was a legitimate supergroup. Oh,

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absolutely. You had his longtime guitarist, Zach

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Wild, back in the fold. You had Geezer Butler

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coming in on bass, and Dean Castronovo was brought

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in on drums. And that specific rhythm section

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is crucial to understand. How so? Well, Geezer

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Butler brings that classic, heavy, swinging groove

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that defined early Black Sabbath. But then you

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pair him with Dean Castronovo, who has a much

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more modern, aggressive, and highly precise attack.

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It creates a specific tension. Exactly. Exactly.

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Tension in the rhythm tracks. And on top of that,

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they brought in Rick Wakeman to play the Mellotron

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on tracks like Perry Mason and I Just Want You.

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Which is wild. Putting a 1970s prog rock tape

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replay keyboard on a mid -90s heavy metal record

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is a massive creative swing. It is. It gives

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those tracks a dense, almost gothic, psychedelic

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atmosphere that you wouldn't normally expect

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from an Ozzy solo record. And it was the first

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and only Ozzy album to feature that specific

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combination of Butler, Cacernovo, and Wakeman.

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The pedigree of musicianship in that room was

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just staggering. They were building a massive

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sonic architecture. But here's where it gets

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really interesting. Because the guitarist situation

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wasn't always just Zach Wild providing those

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massive riffs. Right. Originally, guitar virtuoso

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Steve Vai was heavily involved in the project.

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He and Ozzy were writing songs together back

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in 1994, trying to forge new direction for the

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comeback. But out of all the material they worked

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on together, only one song, My Little Man, actually

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made the final cut for osmosis only one yeah

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the wikipedia article notes that vi reportedly

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left the project due to a falling out with aussie

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and when you think about their respective styles

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it makes total sense that they might clash they

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are very different musicians vi is an absolute

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technical alien he deals in complex polyrhythms

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bizarre scales avant -garde composition aussie's

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roots are in straightforward meat and potatoes

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blues based doom metal Mashing those two musical

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philosophies together is inherently volatile.

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So the friction there seems inevitable. But the

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real bombshell from the source material isn't

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just that they had a falling out, it's what happened

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to the music they made. Yes. What's fascinating

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here is a detail from a 2023 interview where

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Vai revealed that he is, quote, Sitting on a

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whole Ozzy album from that time period. That

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blows my mind. Somewhere locked in a vault, there

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is an entire unreleased album of music written

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and recorded by Ozzy Osbourne and Steve Vai from

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1994. It's the ultimate music industry white

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whale. A completely lost album featuring two

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titans of their respective instruments just sitting

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on a shelf somewhere because the personal and

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creative chemistry dissolved. it really makes

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you wonder what that alternate universe version

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of the 90s would have looked like if they had

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managed to hold it together it really does But

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the fragility of the creative process is always

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looming over these massive projects. You can

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have the budget, the label support, and the talent

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in the room, but if the interpersonal dynamics

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fracture, the whole thing gets shelved. And the

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scrapped Steve Vai project was really just the

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beginning of the false starts surrounding Osmosis.

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Yeah, because the Vai situation wasn't even the

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only time an entire iteration of this album was

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thrown in the trash. Not at all. The original

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vision for the record was entirely different

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from the disc that fans eventually bought and

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stored. Before the final version was produced,

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the album was actually being helmed by Michael

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Wagner. And Wagner was a very known quantity

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in Ozzy's camp. He had mixed the incredibly successful

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No More Tears album. So it was a safe bet. The

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strategy seemed incredibly sound. Reunite Ozzy

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with the guy who helped polish his biggest solo

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hit. So they were recording at Granny's House

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Recording Studio out in Reno, Nevada in early

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1994. And they had a totally different rhythm

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section for those Reno sessions. Mikey Nez on

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bass and Randy Castillo on drums. The stated

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intention was to make an album that sounded similar

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to No More Tears. And they completely finished

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seven songs. They had a working album ready to

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go. Ready to go. But the corporate side of the

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music business had a very different agenda. According

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to the source, Epic Records allegedly demanded

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a change in the production style. They absolutely

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did not want a No More Tears Part II. They wanted

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to pivot. Because to understand why, you have

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to look at the music landscape in 1994 and 1995.

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Grunge and alternative rock had completely taken

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over. Bands like Soundgarden, Alice in Chains,

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and Pearl Jam were dominating the era. Which

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is brutal. Epic Records essentially looked at

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a nearly finished album, paid for all that studio

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time in Reno, and told them to start over from

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scratch just to chase a trend. Yeah. They took

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tracks like Perry Mason, See You on the Other

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Side, Tomorrow, and Old L .A. Tonight, and completely

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re - re -recorded them with Beinhorn. And they

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moved the entire production from the relatively

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relaxed environment of Reno, Nevada to high -pressure,

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incredibly expensive metropolitan studios in

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Paris and New York City. Talk about a shift in

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vibe. Exactly. Some of Wagner's original tracks,

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like Amy and Living with the Enemy, were relegated

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to B -sides. A track called Slow Burn was left

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completely unreleased. Think about being the

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artist in that situation. You think you're done

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with your big comeback record and suddenly you

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are relocated across the globe with a new producer,

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new studios and new band members. It's exhausting.

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And the relationship between Ozzy and this new

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producer, Michael Beinhorn, deteriorated rapidly.

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The article includes this explosive quote from

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Ozzy from 2001. Oh, this quote is intense. It

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is. He said. And I quote, after doing Osmosis

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with Michael Beinhorn producing, I didn't care

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if I never made another album again. There'd

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be these fucking mind games. He'd have me singing

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all day and then I'd get three quarters through

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and he'd go, your voice sounds tired. Let's pick

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it up tomorrow. And I knew that the next day

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he'd go, your voice has changed. Let's start

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again. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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you really start to see the immense crushing

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pressure that legacy artists face when they become

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caught in the machinery of label demand. Ozzy

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was trapped. On one side. Epic Records is demanding

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a highly specific, modern, heavy but polished

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sound to compete with the alt -rock boom. On

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the other side, you have a producer like Beinhorn

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employing psychological attrition to get it.

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Right. But to play devil's advocate for a moment

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here. Sure. Didn't Beinhorn technically do exactly

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what he was hired to do? Epic Records wanted

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a massive, pristine commercial hit to compete

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in a cutthroat 90s market. They brought Beinhorn

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in to be the bad guy and push Ozzy past his comfort

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zone to achieve a very specific audio standard.

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Does the end justify the means in that scenario?

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Well, it's the central dilemma of commercial

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art, isn't it? Yeah. Beinhorn was pushing for

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a highly polished, heavily layered vocal performance

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that required endless tracking. But the toll

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it takes on the human being behind the microphone

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is severe. When you are in a sterile vocal booth

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in Paris singing the same chorus 50 times while

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the producer constantly moves the goalposts,

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you lose your confidence. You lose the spark.

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You lose the spontaneous energy of rock and roll.

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The environment shifts from a place of musical

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expression. into a grueling endurance test. It's

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no wonder Ozzy said he didn't care if he ever

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made another record. The very thing he came out

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of retirement to enjoy doing again was weaponized

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against him. Right. So after the Steve -I drama,

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the scrapped Reno sessions, the massive label

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interference, and the endless mind games in the

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vocal booth, logic dictates this album should

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have been a bloated, disjointed disaster. Oh,

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totally. But Osmosis was an absolute smash hit.

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Commercially speaking, the label's gamble paid

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off immensely. It hit number four on the U .S.

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Billboard 200, which at the time was the highest

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position Ozzy had ever achieved on that chart

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as a solo artist. It had serious momentum. By

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the end of 1995, it was certified platinum. And

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by April 1999, the RIAA certified it double platinum.

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Billboard magazine noted it sold well over three

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million copies worldwide. Wow. It wasn't just

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coasting on his legacy. It was actively competing

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with the biggest bands of the decade. It also

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spawned highly successful radio singles that

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dominated the rock charts. Perry Mason hit number

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three on the Billboard Mainstream Rock Songs

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chart. See You on the Other Side hit number five.

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These tracks were ubiquitous on rock radio in

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the mid -90s. And he took the whole mass of production

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on the road, leaning into the irony of his brief

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hiatus by launching the Retirement Sucks tour

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in August 1995. A great name. The fans clearly

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did not care about the behind the scenes drama,

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the scrapped Steve Vai tracks or the producer

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mind games. They were just thrilled the Prince

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of Darkness was back and touring. But the critics

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were a completely different story. Very different.

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The critical reception was heavily mixed. And

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ironically, the critics specifically targeted

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the exact production style that the label had

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fought so hard and spent so much money to get.

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Right. Stephen Thomas Oluwine from AllMusic heavily

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criticized the album's lack of musical evolution.

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He pointed the finger squarely at Michael Beinhorn's

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modern rock -conscious production. Oluwine noted

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that on the surface, the music was undeniably

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hard and loud, but it actually sounded, quote,

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smooth and processed. Smooth and processed. That

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is the exact sonic profile Ozzy was going through,

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those grueling... endless vocal takes in Paris

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and New York to achieve. And the critics immediately

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clocked it as artificial. Yes. Chuck Eddy from

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Entertainment Weekly gave the album a C's rating.

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He argued that the long running lengths of the

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tracks made Osmosis feel like a, quote, parody

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of the most overinflated opera. And even the

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retrospective reviews have been fairly harsh.

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Writers for Blabbermouth and Pop Matters have

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criticized it in later years, and Ultimate Classic

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Rock ranked it near the bottom of Ozzy's discography,

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again pointing to that dense, suffocating production

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style. Oh, Loudwire liked it, right? Yeah, a

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20th anniversary review on Loudwire was a bit

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kinder, calling it a sonically pristine extension

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of his hard rock songwriting. But overall, the

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critical consensus remains very fractured to

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this day. So what does this all mean? We have

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a record that sold millions, gave Ozzy his highest

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chart peak to date, generated massive rock radio

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hits, and packed arenas around the world. But

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the people paid to analyze and critique music

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thought it was overproduced, heavily processed,

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and completely bloated. It perfectly illustrates

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the intense dissonance that often exists between

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commercial viability and critical artistic integrity.

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Epic Records and Michael Beinhorn essentially

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engineered a product specifically designed to

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sell in the mid -90s rock climate. Right. They

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demanded a heavily processed, highly polished

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sound that could sit comfortably on a playlist

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next to Soundgarden or Stone Temple Pilots. And

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purely from a business standpoint, they were

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proven absolutely right. The fans bought it by

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the millions. But artistically, it alienated

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the purists and the critics. The reviewers heard

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the endless tracking, the precise drum edits,

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and the vocal perfection, and they interpreted

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it as a lack of authenticity. They felt the grit,

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the danger, and the rawness of traditional heavy

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metal had been sanded down into a pristine commercial

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commodity. The very sound the producer tortured

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Ozzy to achieve was precisely what the critics

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disliked. It's a fascinating paradox. The label

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manufactured a massive commercial success, but

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in doing so, they sacrificed the critical acclaim

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that usually comes from an artist feeling free,

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dangerous, and unconstrained in the recording

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studio. When you listen to a track like Perry

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Mason now, you aren't just hearing a heavy metal

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song. You are hearing the tangible result of

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corporate panic, scrap sessions in Reno, discarded

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guitar tracks from a virtuoso, and a legendary

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singer being pushed to the brink of walking away

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forever inside a vocal booth. It's the sound

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of an artist surviving the roofless machinery

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of the 1990s music industry. We have covered

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some serious ground today. Take a moment and

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reflect on everything we've explored in this

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deep dive. We started with a highly relatable

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false retirement. prompted by a chaotic household.

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We uncovered the existence of a legendary, completely

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lost Steve Vai album sitting in a vault somewhere.

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We navigated the sheer chaos of a record label

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throwing a finished album in the trash just to

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chase a modern trend. And we witnessed the psychological

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toll of a producer's mind games, all leading

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to a record that sold millions while simultaneously

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dividing the critical establishment. It's a story

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that challenges our perception of how hit records

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are actually constructed behind the scenes. This

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raises an important question When a record label

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forces an artist through a mentally grueling,

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manipulated production process just to achieve

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a perfect commercial sound, does the resulting

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multi -platinum success actually justify the

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psychological toll taken on that artist? Or are

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the true, authentic masterpieces, the raw, unreleased

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tapes currently sitting locked away in Steve

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Vai's vault? That is a phenomenal question to

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leave you with. Thank you so much for joining

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us on this deep dive. Keep questioning the stories

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behind the media you consume. Keep looking for

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those hidden narratives. and we will catch you

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on the next one.
