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Welcome in, everyone. Pull up a chair, get comfortable.

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Let's get right into it. Yeah, let's do it. It's

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great to be here. It is so great to have you

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here with us today because we are going on a

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bit of a journey. And when I say you, I mean

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you, the person listening right now. Right. You

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are the essential third person in this conversation.

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Exactly. We've got a really fantastic deep dive

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lined up for you today. We are going to be exploring

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a single, incredibly rich source, which is a

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comprehensive Wikipedia article all about the

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iconic 1946 Rhythm and Blue song, Route 66. Or,

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to use its full official title, Get Your Kicks

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on Route 66. It is a title that practically invites

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you to, you know, roll the window. It really

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does. Our mission today is to figure out how

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a simple cross -country road trick birthed a

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musical standard. We want to understand how a

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song hasn't just survived the decades, but is

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actively shapeshifted across entirely different

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genres and generations of artists. Okay, let's

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unpack this. To really understand the DNA of

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the song, we have to ground ourselves in the

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historical context of the original source material.

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So we're looking at the year 1946. Post -war

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America. Exactly. A post -war America that is

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absolutely ripe for travel, for mobility, and

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for new beginnings. People are looking out at

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the horizon with a fresh perspective after years

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of global conflict. The rationing is ending.

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Right. Automobile production is ramping back

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up, and the highway system is calling. So as

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we go through this deep dive, keep in mind that

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this isn't just a story about a catchy tune.

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It is about the cultural evolution of the American

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road trip itself, captured in just a few minutes

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of music. That perfectly sets the stage for the

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origin story. I was thinking about this while

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reading the article. Today, before we go on a

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long drive, we spend hours curating the perfect

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Spotify playlist. Oh, absolutely. But the songwriter

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we are talking about today, Bobby Troop, he essentially

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created the ultimate road trip anthem. by writing

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it while driving. That's the best part. So the

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year is 1946, and Troop has this dream. He wants

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to try his hand at being a Hollywood songwriter.

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So he and his wife, Cynthia, pack up everything

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they need into their 1941 Buick, and they leave

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Pennsylvania behind, pointing the car west toward

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California. It's a classic American migration

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story, but the route they took is actually where

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the creative spark happened. Right. And here

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is the pivot that I found so surprising. The

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trip actually began on U .S. Highway 40. And

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as they were driving along U .S. 40, which eventually

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connected them to U .S. 66 to get to the coast,

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Troop had an idea. He initially wanted to write

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a tune about U .S. 40. Which is wild to think

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about. How different would music history be if

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he had stuck with that? Musically speaking, it

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probably wouldn't have worked. Route 40 just

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doesn't have the same rhythmic bounce to it.

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The double six creates a natural percussive rhyme

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scheme that you just can't get out of the word

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40. This brings us to the unsung hero of this

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entire deep dive, his wife, Cynthia. It wasn't

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Bobby Truke who came up with the legendary hook

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that we all know today. No, it wasn't. It was

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Cynthia who leaned over in that 1941 Buick, probably

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exhausted from the drive, and suggested the title

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Get Your Kicks on Route 66. What's fascinating

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here is how the actual mechanics of the songwriting

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process played out against the reality of the

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trip. Right. You have this 10 -day drive across

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the western two -thirds of the country from Chicago

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to Los Angeles. The song was started during that

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10 -day journey out there on the open road. With

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the wind in their hair. Exactly. But according

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to the source material, it wasn't actually finished

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in the car. Troop finished the song after they

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had already arrived in Los Angeles. And to get

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all those iconic cities and towns in the right

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order for the lyrics, Chicago, St. Louis, Joplin,

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Oklahoma City, he had to consult a physical paper

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map. That is the ultimate irony to me. We think

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of this song as the definitive boots on the ground

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road trip anthem. But he was literally sitting

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at a desk in a Los Angeles apartment. tracing

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his finger over a map to remember where he had

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just been. A little bit of movie magic right

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there. Yeah, and because he was relying on this

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map to finish the lyrics, there were some casualties.

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I was laughing so hard reading the article because

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it includes this later quote from Cynthia. Oh,

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about the missing city. Yes. Even years later,

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she commented, and I'm quoting here, what I can't

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really believe is that he doesn't have Albuquerque

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in the song. He drove right through it. looked

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at a map, and somehow still left Albuquerque

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completely out of the lyrics. It just goes to

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show that even a song that feels like a spontaneous,

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lived -in travelogue is still subject to the

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editing process and occasionally simple human

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error. He just skipped right over New Mexico's

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largest city. Whoops. But regardless of missing

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Albuquerque, the foundation was laid. And that

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brings us to the very first time this song was

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put on wax. We are talking about the Nat King

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Cole original version. I want to know how that

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happened so quickly. He recorded it with a King

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Cole. Trio on March 16, 1946 at Radio Recorders

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in Los Angeles. The timeline there is incredible

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if you really look at it. Trute makes the drive

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in early 1946, the song is written, and by mid

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-March of that exact same year, Nat King Cole

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is already in the studio recording it. That's

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a fast turnaround. Cole was a massive star, and

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his trio's piano -driven rhythm and blues style

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was the perfect vehicle for Troop's lyrics. Capitol

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Records released it as a single shortly after,

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on April 20, 1946. Just a quick piece of trivia

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for you listening. The B -side to that single

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was a song called Everyone is Saying Hello Again,

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Why Must We Say Goodbye? Quite the mouthful compared

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to the A -side. Right. But the A -side is what

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took off. The article mentions it reached number

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three on Billboard magazine's race records chart,

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and it climbed to number 11 on the broader singles

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chart. Can you give us a little context on what

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those charts meant at the time? Absolutely. The

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race records chart was the industry term Billboard

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used in the 1940s to track rhythm and blues music,

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which was predominantly created by and marketed

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to black Americans during a heavily segregated

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era in the music industry. Okay, got it. The

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fact that Route 66 hit number three there was

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huge, but the fact that it crossed over and reached

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number 11 on the broader mainstream singles chart

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meant it was breaking through those racial barriers

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and appealing to a massive nationwide audience.

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That crossover appeal is so crucial to its legacy.

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It really is. And its impact wasn't just a flash

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in the pan for Cole either. If you look at his

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discography, you can see how much he genuinely

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loved the song. He didn't just record it once

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and move on. He went back to it, right? Yeah.

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He actually re -recorded the tune for later albums

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as recording technology improved. You can find

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lush subsequent versions of it on his 1956 album,

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After Midnight, and again on the 1961 release,

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The Nat King Cole Story. By returning to it repeatedly,

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he really cemented Route 66 as an absolute standard

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of the rhythm and blues genre. Here's where it

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gets really interesting, though, because it didn't

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just stay a rhythm and blues standard. As a listener,

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you might be familiar with five or six different

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versions of this song. They probably sound nothing

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alike. Very true. How does a smooth R &amp;B tune

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become a global chameleon? It comes down to the

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underlying musical architecture. At its core,

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Route 66 is built on a standard 12 -bar blues

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progression. Okay. It is an incredibly sturdy,

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simple, and adaptable framework. Because the

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structure is so fundamental, you can dress it

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up in almost any musical style, and it still

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holds together. Let's test that theory with some

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of the covers mentioned in the source. Just to

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start with the contemporaries, you had Bing Crosby

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teaming up with the Andrews sisters. A classic

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pairing. They recorded a version that reached

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number 14 on the Billboard chart in that same

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year. 1946. How does a song go from a smooth

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piano trio to a mainstream crinor and a vocal

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harmony group in a matter of months? Because

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that walking bass line and the rhythmic naming

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of the cities acts almost like a drumbeat. Crosby

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and the Andrews sisters leaned into the swing

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and the novelty of the geography. It felt fun

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and patriotic in a post -war landscape. Okay,

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so that's 1946. Let's fast forward to 1964. Suddenly,

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the Rolling Stones are putting it on their self

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-titled debut album. A huge shift. We are talking

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about gritty, rebellious British rock and roll.

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How did a group of young kids in London learn

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a song about an American highway? The lineage

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of how the Rolling Stones actually arrived at

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their version is a tangled web all on its own.

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The music critic Richie Unterberger has some

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great notes on this, which are cited in the Wikipedia

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article. He points out it was a staple of their

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early live tours. Did they just listen to Nat

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King Cole and speed it up? Not at all. According

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to those notes, the Stones pieced it together

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from two entirely different sources. They learned

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the aggressive, driving musical arrangement from

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a version that rock and roll pioneer Chuck Berry

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recorded for his 1961 album New Jukebox Hits.

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Oh, that makes sense. Berry had taken that 12

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-bar blues structure and electrified it. However,

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for the actual words, the Stones sourced the

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lyrics from a version by Perry Como, specifically

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from Como's 1959 album Como Swings. That is wild.

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They took Chuck Berry's blazing rock and roll

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energy and layered it over lyrics they pulled

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from... a Perry Como pop vocal record. A total

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hybrid. That is the kind of musical archaeology

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that makes a deep dive like this so much fun.

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It's like a game of intercontinental telephone.

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And the genre hopping did not stop with 1960s

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British rock. Not by a long shot. Where did it

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go next? Well, the article highlights its jump

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into jazz. In 1982, the vocal group, the Manhattan

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Transfer, released a version that was featured

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on the soundtrack for the 1981 film Sharky's

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Machine. Oh yeah, Burt Reynolds. Yep. And more

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impressively, that version earned them a Grandy

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Award for Best Jazz Vocal Performance. Which

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makes sense. They took the song back to its jazz

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and R &amp;B roots, but added complex, modern vocal

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harmonies. It's a completely different flavor

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from the Rolling Stones, yet highly acclaimed

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in its own right. But if we're talking about

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different flavors, we have to talk about the

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hard left turned into synth pop. The English

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electronic band Depeche Mode took a swing at

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it. I love this one. In 1988, their version reached

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number 61 on the Billboard. Hot 100. I have to

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admit, picturing a 1940s road trip song played

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on dark industrial synthesizers is breaking my

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brain a little bit. It sounds like a mismatch,

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but they did something incredibly clever. Depeche

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Mode didn't just cover it straight. They mashed

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it up in a medley with their own song behind

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the wheel. Oh, that is smart. Right. By conceptually

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connecting the thematic idea of driving from

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their own brooding track with the ultimate American

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road trip anthem, they created something entirely

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new. They proved that the desire for the open

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road translates just as well to dark European

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dance clubs as it does to a dusty highway in

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Arizona. And just to prove that the 12 -bar blues

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framework can literally do anything, it also

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conquered country. Naturally. The artist Michael

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Martin Murphy recorded the song for his 1989

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album, Land of Enchantment. And when it was released

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as a single in 1990, it charted on the Billboard

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Hot Country Singles Chart. Jazz, rock, electronic

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pop, country, the framework of the song, the

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rhythm of traveling, the naming of places is

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universally appealing. It's a blank canvas. Speaking

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of a blank canvas, that brings us to my absolute

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favorite anomaly in the entire article. We have

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to talk about the British detour. We have to

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talk about Billy Bragg. Yes, the Bragg version.

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For those who aren't familiar, Bragg is this

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fiercely political, working class, English punk

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and folk musician. And in 1977, he was playing

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with his band Riff Raff. They were performing

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Route 66 as part of their set. But Bragg had

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a problem with the lyrics. He didn't relate to

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them. Exactly. He strongly objected to standing

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on a stage and singing about these American cities

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that he had never actually been to. It felt inauthentic

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to him. He was a kid from England. Singing about

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Gallup, New Mexico and Flagstaff, Arizona meant

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absolutely nothing to his lived experience or

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to his audience. I'm going to play devil's advocate

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here for a second. Isn't it kind of sacrilege

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to just cross out the lyrics to an established

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classic and write in your own hometowns? You

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wouldn't rewrite the lyrics to a Beatles song

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just because you've never been to Penny Lane.

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I get why you'd say that, but think about the

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folk music tradition. Folk music is entirely

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based on oral history, on taking traditional

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melodies and updating the lyrics to reflect current

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events or local geography. Bragg was just applying

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that folk tradition to an R &amp;B standard. He took

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ownership of the concept and completely localized

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it. He kept the original music, but swapped out

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all those iconic U .S. cities for English towns.

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He titled it A13, Trunk Road to the Sea. So good.

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replaced the sprawling American West with the

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route of the A13 road in England. Instead of

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telling people to get their kicks on Route 66,

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he was inviting listeners to go motoring on the

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A13. I love that so much. The article notes that

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growing up in Barking, driving down the A13 to

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South End was the ultimate escape for him. He

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described South End as being a promised land

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in a very Springsteen -ish way. That's a great

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description. For anyone listening, think of that

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classic Bruce Springsteen blue -collar longing

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for an escape from your hometown. That's what

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the A13 was for Bragg. If we connect this to

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the bigger picture, it shows us something profound

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about how music operates. Bragg used Troop's

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melody to paint a picture of local geography

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and working class identity. The American dream

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of the open road was translated into a British

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working class reality of driving to the coast

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for the weekend. It's the same feeling. The desire

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for freedom is exactly the same, but the landmarks

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change to reflect the reality of the listener.

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Unfortunately for Bragg, the music industry is

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a bit more rigid than the folk tradition. He

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wanted to include his version on his 1983 debut

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album, Life's a Riot with Spy vs. Spy. But he

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hit a wall. A major copyright hurdle. He simply

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couldn't get the official permission to use the

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music of Route 66 with his altered lyrics at

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the time. Copyright law doesn't always appreciate

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folk -style localization. The legalities of songwriting

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credits often get in the way of creative reinterpretation.

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The publishers protect the original work fiercely.

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Because of those legal problems the song sat

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in the vault for decades. It wasn't officially

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released until the year 2003 when it was finally

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included on a compilation album. It's a great

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example of how an idea can endure even when it

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has to wait 20 years to officially see the light

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of day. But speaking of endurance, we also have

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to look at how this song managed to stay culturally

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relevant well into the 21st century. That is

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a perfect transition, because we are moving from

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the A13 highway straight into a modern animated

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revival. For a massive portion of a younger generation,

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their introduction to this 1946 standard didn't

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come from Nat King Cole and it didn't come from

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the Rolling Stones. Nope. It came from a movie

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theater in 2006. We are talking about the Disney

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and Pixar animated film Cars. Exactly. The film

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is literally a love letter to the lore of Route

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66 and the forgotten towns along the highway.

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So, of course, the soundtrack had to include

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the song. But what's great is that they didn't

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just use one version. They feature two. The soundtrack

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brought in Chuck Berry, whose 1961 version was

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so influential to the rock lineage we talked

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about. And they also brought in modern artist

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John Mayer to record a fresh, bluesy take specifically

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for the film. Which bridged the gap beautifully.

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You have the historical anchor of Chuck Berry

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reminding older listeners of the song's pedigree

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and the contemporary appeal of John Mayer, ensuring

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the song resonates with the parents and children

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watching the film. And it wasn't just a throwaway

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soundtrack cover either. John Mayer's version

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was critically acclaimed. It actually secured

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a Grammy nomination for Best... solo rock vocal

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performance. It proves that a well -crafted song

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doesn't really have an expiration date. It just

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needs the right vehicle to reach a new audience.

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Okay, we have covered a massive amount of ground

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today. We've driven from a 1941 Buick out of

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Pennsylvania, through the recording studios of

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1940s Los Angeles, across the Atlantic to British

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rock bands and the A13 highway, into a synth

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-pop dance club, and right into a Pixar animation

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studio. So what does this all mean? That is the

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big question for you, the listener. We want you

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to think about why a song like this actually

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matters. Right, because Route 66 isn't just a

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catchy tune to tap your foot to. It is a masterclass

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in how a simple, relatable concept, the freedom

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of a road trip, can be endlessly adapted. Exactly.

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Whether you are driving that 1941 Buick across

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the American West, or dancing in a dark club

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in the 80s to Depeche Mode, or motoring down

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the A13 to South End hoping for a spring -ski

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-nish escape, The core human desire for exploration

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remains exactly the same. The song is just the

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vessel that carries that feeling. This raises

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an important question, though. A final thought

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to leave you with as we wrap up this deep dive.

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Yeah, lay it on us. Throughout this conversation,

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we've talked about Route 66 as if it's a permanent

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fixture of the landscape. But Bobby Troup managed

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to write a definitive, immortal anthem about

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American geography, largely by just looking at

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a paper map in a Los Angeles apartment. Yeah,

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that is still so crazy to me. It makes you wonder.

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How much of the legendary romanticized folklore

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we consume about places and travel is based on

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raw lived experience? And how much is just a

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cleverly rhymed illusion created by someone sitting

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in a room with a map? What an incredible thought

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to chew on the next time you hit the highway.

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Thank you for joining us for this deep dive.

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Keep exploring, keep questioning, and we will

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catch you next time.
