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Welcome to today's deep dive. You are stepping

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into a world today that is equal parts dazzling,

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grueling, and absolutely fueled by sheer unfiltered

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passion. Yeah, that's definitely the right way

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to put it. Right. We are talking about the regional

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professional wrestling circuit. You already know

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the massive stadium shows you see on television,

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the pyrotechnics, the global superstars with

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merchandise empires. The stuff everyone knows.

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Exactly. But beneath all that corporate glitz

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is a foundation built on local armories, freezing

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cold road trips and hometown heroes who bleed

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for their craft just to get a reaction from a

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few hundred people. It's a completely different

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reality. It really is. And our source material

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today is the Wikipedia page of a man who lived

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and breathed that exact reality, John Cosman.

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He dominated the Western Canadian independent

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circuit for decades. By the time we're done here,

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you're going to intimately understand the man

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behind his legendary in -ring alter ego. Principal

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Richard Pound. Principal Richard Pound. Our mission

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for you today is to trace the complete life cycle

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of a true territory wrestling pillar. We're gonna

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follow his journey from a starry -eyed kid in

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the crowd with his dad all the way to a dominant

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heel holding championship gold. Yeah. Cosman's

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story is a master class in career reinvention.

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It exposes the grinding, unglamorous reality

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of the business, and it highlights the immense

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power of local networking. We want you to see

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exactly how a lasting wrestling persona is built

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from scratch. Okay, let's unpack this. We need

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to set the scene in Regina, Saskatchewan. This

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is throughout the 1970s and early 80s. Cosman

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wasn't born into a wrestling dynasty. No, not

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at all. He was a fan. Super fan. He spent his

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youth attending local house shows with his father,

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just soaking in that visceral atmosphere. You

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know the vibe. Oh, absolutely. The smell of the

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popcorn, the echo of the mat slamming in a small

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arena, the heat of a local crowd. He was mesmerized

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by it. And he wanted to cross over that guardrail

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and do it himself. And making that leap from

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the grandstands to the locker room during that

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era was notoriously difficult. It was basically

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a closed society. Right. Completely. The business

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was heavily gate -kept. Outsiders were viewed

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with extreme suspicion. You couldn't just, you

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needed to have trusted in. And for Cosman, that

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entry point arrived in 1984, but it didn't come

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from a promoter. Right. And it didn't come from

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a veteran worker. It came through a wrestling

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photographer named Bob Leonard. That seems like

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an unconventional key to the kingdom, honestly.

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How does befriending a ringside photographer

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actually get you a ticket into the locker room?

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Well, what's fascinating here is the unique ecosystem

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of the kayfabe era. In the 1980s, protecting

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the business was paramount. Right. Maintaining

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the illusion at all costs. Exactly. But a photographer

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like Bob Leonard was a rare exception to the

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outsider rule. He was a constant fixture at ringside.

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He was trusted by the boys in the back. He understood

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the unwritten rules of the locker room. And most

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importantly, he had the ear of the veterans.

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Ah, so he had social capital. Tons of it. Leonard

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vouched for Cosman. And that endorsement was

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absolute gold. It earned him an introduction

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to the legendary Archie Gouldy. And Gouldy takes

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him on, and they don't mess around at all. Cosman

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goes through six intense months of training under

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him. Just brutal foundational work. It's not

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glamorous. Not even a little bit. Taking bumps

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into your spine aches, running the ropes until

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your back is bruised, learning the mechanics

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of actually calling a match in the ring. It all

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leads to his 1985 debut in stampede wrestling.

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But getting your foot in the door is just step

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one. Once he debuted, Cosman immediately entered

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his dues paying phase. Time to hit the road.

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Yeah, he hits the road touring the Maritimes

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with Emile Dupree's Grand Prix Wrestling. The

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Maritimes tour is infamous for being an absolute

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crucible. Oh, it's notorious. He's traveling

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with his trainer Archie Goldie and Leo Burke

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working under the early ring name Danny Young.

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It is the ultimate grind. You are looking at

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endless highway, driving across eastern Canada,

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performing in a different small town every single

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night. And we're talking about the 80s here.

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Exactly. You are dealing with varying ring conditions,

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navigating pure exhaustion, and learning how

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to read wildly different crowds on the fly. It

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forces a worker to figure out exactly who they

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are in the ring. Trial by fire. Literally. He

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even ventured down to the United States to work

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the Texas territory for Joe Blanchard. It's that

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classic territory era hustle, chasing the work,

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learning different regional styles, and building

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a repertoire. His roots were always in Canada

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though. He eventually anchors himself back in

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Stampede Wrestling for a solid five -year run.

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A hometown promotion. Yeah. He's mixing it up

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with guys like Cary Brown, building his reputation,

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working stiff programs. He's literally living

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his childhood dream, working for the very promotion

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he watched as a kid with his dad. It's a great

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story. It is. Until 1990, when the entire landscape

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shifts. Right. Stampede Wrestling closes its

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doors. The traditional territory system was collapsing

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everywhere under the weight of national television

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expansion. leagues were just eating up the territory.

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They were and when your home promotion folds

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the reality of the independent grind hits incredibly

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hard. The spotlight turns off and Cosman actually

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retires. Yeah. He steps away from the ring and

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takes a job working as a security guard. I want

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you to really sit with that psychological pivot

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for a second. It's heavy. One week you are Danny

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Young Working a hot program with Cary Brown in

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front of screaming fans who are living and dying

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by your every move, the adrenaline rush is unmatched.

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You're a local superhero. Or villain. Right.

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And the next week, you are standing in a quiet

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hallway in a security uniform. It highlights

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the profound financial and emotional precariousness

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of the wrestling business. The incredibly specific

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skills you master in the squared circle do not

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easily translate to a standard nine to five resume.

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It has to be maddening. You know the itch never

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really goes away. It rarely does for the lifers.

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He tried to dip his toes back in around 1995.

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He partnered with a worker named Venom and they

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spent three months training a new crop of guys

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for the Prairie Wrestling Alliance. A noble effort

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to give back. It was. But the promoter ultimately

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just pulls the plug before the promotion even

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gets off the ground. That's a heartbreaking indie

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wrestling reality right there. Promises are made,

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funding dries up, and the workers are left holding

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the bag. It's tough. But a true territory guy

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rarely stays away forever. By 1997, Wild West

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Wrestling starts running towns in Saskatchewan,

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and Cosman is drawn right back into the orbit.

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Here's where it gets really interesting, because

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his return sparks one of the most brilliant creative

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summits I've ever heard of. It's a great moment.

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It's 1997. The World Wrestling Federation is

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running a house show in Regina. Cosman is backstage.

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And he sits down to brainstorm a brand new persona

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with the specific goal of securing a WWF tryout.

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The holy grail. Right. And look at the minds

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in this room. It's Cosman, his old friend Bob

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Leonard, Bruce Hart and Owen Hart. That is an

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incredible gathering of wrestling intellect,

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just a massive amount of psychology in one room.

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I can only imagine the pitches bouncing off the

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walls. They recognized that pure work rate wasn't

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going to turn heads in the late 90s. W. W. S.

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You needed a gimmick with teeth. You needed a

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character that instantly provoked a visceral

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reaction from the crowd. You needed a character

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that people wanted to see get beat up. Exactly.

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They even pitched the resulting concept to Jim

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Cornet, who was heavily involved in WWF creative

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at the time. And they spent and the next couple

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of years refining it. So when stampede wrestling

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resurrects itself in 1999, John Cosman doesn't

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just return. No, he doesn't. He walks through

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the curtain as Principal Richard Pound, the tyrannical

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heel leader of a faction called the Honor Roll.

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As a heel gimmick. It is psychologically bulletproof.

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It's brilliant. Think about the mechanics of

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generating heat. A principle represents absolute,

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unquestionable authority. It taps into every

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fan's latent childhood resentment of arbitrary

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rules and strict discipline. Everyone had that

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one principle they couldn't stand. Right. So

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the moment he steps out, demanding silence, scolding

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the announcer or threatening detention, the crowd's

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instinct is pure rebellion. It's so visceral.

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It provides the baby faces with the perfect authoritarian

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regime to topple. It's a master class in working

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a crowd without having to take a single bump.

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And the heat was immediate. The fans absolutely

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despised him, which means the character was a

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massive success right out of the gate. A home

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run. He takes this momentum straight to the top

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of the card. In November 1999, he's in Calgary

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for a three way dance against Tiger Khan and

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Greg Pollock. He wins, walking out as the stampede.

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British Commonwealth mid -heavyweight champion.

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Which is a highly significant title. Huge. He

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was the first person to hold that specific belt

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since Stampede had previously closed a decade

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earlier. He essentially became the standard bearer

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for the promotion's revival. He wasn't done collecting

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hardware either. By April 2000, he's beating

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Tatanka. Tatanka? Yeah, a worker with major international

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TV exposure. He beats him to win the Stampede

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North American Heavyweight Championship. He is

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operating at his absolute peak. dripping in championship

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gold. But staying at the summit indefinitely

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is impossible in this business. The belts are

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narrative devices and they have to move to keep

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the territory fresh. The story has to keep moving.

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Always. By June 2000, he drops the mid -heavyweight

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title to Tiger Mahatma Khan. That one stings

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particularly hard because the winner earned a

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high -profile match against Sabu. Oh man. Yeah,

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missing out on working with an extreme icon like

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Sabu is a tough pill to swallow for any worker.

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And then the North American heavyweight title

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goes next. In April 2001, he loses it to Bruce

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Hart. His old brainstorming partner. The very

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guy who sat in that backstage room and helped

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him create the principal character. That's the

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poetry of the business. You build a monster together

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and then you tear it down together for the fans.

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It's a beautiful thing. But even as the local

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titles shifted, that ambition from the 1997 brainstorm

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was still burning. If we connect this to the

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bigger picture, you have to admire the relentless

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drive it takes to maintain your spot at the top

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of a territory while constantly angling for a

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look from the global leagues. He was getting

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agonizingly close too. May 2001, the WWF is in

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Alberta broadcasting Monday Night Raw. Cosman

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is backstage mingling with guys like Wild Man

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Gary Williams. Just being in that environment

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is huge. He doesn't get put on TV that night,

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but the networking pays off. The WWF invites

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him to an official tryout match in the Tacoma

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and Seattle area the very next month in June.

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Securing that tryout is a massive validation

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of his work. It proves he was firmly on the radar

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of the largest promotion in the world. The hard

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work paying off. And later that summer, in August,

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his reputation earns him a spot representing

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Stampede at the Brian Pillman Memorial Show in

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Cincinnati. That was a hugely respected interpromotional

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event. Working in front of the boys, honoring

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Pillman, he wrestles an East Coast Wrestling

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Association veteran, JR Ryder. Right. He doesn't

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get his hand raised. But simply being booked

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on that card speaks volumes. It absolutely does.

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It shows that even without national TV exposure,

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his peers across the industry knew exactly who

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Principal Richard Pound was. He was a known entity.

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He was navigating the very edge of the big time.

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By early 2002, he was even negotiating a UK tour

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with Wrestle Express. He was determined to keep

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his momentum going, proving that a regional talent

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could command international respect. And he kept

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that hustle alive. well into what we might call

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his twilight years in the ring. Around 2005,

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he steps away from Stampede and starts taking

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bookings across Western Canada. He eventually

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becomes the veteran anchor for High Impact Wrestling

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Canada, HIW, right back in Regina where it all

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started. Returning to his hometown territory

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allowed him to really lean into the kind of wild,

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localized storytelling that makes independent

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wrestling so deeply beloved by its die -hard

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fans. You want wild storytelling. Look at what

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happens in March 2006. He's booked in a two -night

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program with the legendary Honky Tonk Man. That's

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incredible. Night one is a tag match. Cosman

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and his partner Todd Myers take the loss against

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Big Daddy Cash and Honky. Sitting the stage.

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Night two is the payoff singles match. Principal

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Richard Pound versus the honky tonk man. A classic

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old school booking. Cosman takes the loss again,

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but it's the finish that makes it legendary.

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He loses because of outside interference from

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a heel manager. Yeah. And that manager. Tell

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him. Bob Leonard. The layers of irony there are

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just spectacular. Think about it. The man who

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vouched for him in 1984, the man who got him

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into the business, the guy sitting in the room

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when they created the principal gimmick, is now

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the on -screen villain executing a run -in to

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cost him a marquee match 22 years later. It perfectly

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illustrates the brilliant blurring of reality

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in kayfabe. They leveraged a legitimate decades

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-long brotherhood, twisted it into a betrayal

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narrative, and gave the Regina fans an incredibly

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memorable finish. That's so good. That requires

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immense trust between two performers. You only

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do that kind of angle with someone you consider

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family. It's pure magic, and his commitment to

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the region extended way beyond the ring itself.

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He was everywhere. The very next month, April

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2006, he travels to Memramcook, New Brunswick.

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Okay. He's attending a recognition night banquet

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for the Cormier Wrestling Brothers. Yeah. But

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get this set up. The event also doubles as a

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bluegrass music festival. Ain't Andy. A fundraiser

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for the local volunteer fire department. That

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is the quintessential grassroots experience right

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there. Right. It highlights how deeply integrated

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these workers were in their communities. It wasn't

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just a gig. It was a lifestyle. You've got wrestling

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veterans like Rick Martel and Emile Dupre eating

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dinner to the sound of banjos to help buy fire

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equipment. You simply don't get that level of

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community fabric in the corporate league. No,

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you don't. It is a wildly specific subculture.

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He stayed in the thick of it for years, winning

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the Puyallup Bones Rumble in 2009, outlasting

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29 other guys in his hometown. Incredible stamina.

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But the bump card eventually fills up. The physical

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toll is undeniable. In October 2013, he works

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his final match against a longtime rival named

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King Cash. Shortly after, illness forced him

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into an unexpected retirement. A forced exit

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is always a bitter pill for a worker. When your

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body or your health makes the decision for you,

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it leaves a lot of unresolved emotion. It'd have

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to be incredibly tough to process. But the industry

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makes sure he got his flowers while he was still

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around to appreciate them. In 2014, the Cauliflower

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Alley Club which is a highly prestigious fraternal

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organization for wrestlers, honored him with

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their Men's Wrestling Award. A huge honor from

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his peers. And in October 2015, HIW officially

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inducted him into their Hall of Fame at the Monster

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Brawl event in Regina. And his inductor, Bob

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Leonard. Wow. Bringing the entire journey completely

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full circle. It's incredibly poetic. John Cosman

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sadly passed away a year later on November 28th,

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2016, at just 52 years old. Far too young. Far

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too young. So what does this all mean? When you

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look at the journey from a fan in the Regina

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grandstands to the despised principal Richard

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Pound, it's a testament to unyielding dedication.

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I want you to really think about the passion

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it takes to grind in that regional circuit. It

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takes a special kind of person. the humility

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to take those first agonizing bumps in freezing

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maritime arenas, the quiet resilience to put

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on a security uniform when the promotion folds,

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keeping the fire alive in the dark, and the sheer

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creative genius to sit down with your friends

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and reinvent yourself into a character that makes

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people buy a ticket just to yell at you. Success

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in this business isn't exclusively measured by

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WrestleMania main events or global merchandising

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deals. Sometimes true success is becoming the

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absolute undisputed pillar of your own territory.

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I completely agree. John Cosman was a champion,

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a locker room leader, and a hometown legend who

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kept the local scene breathing for decades. And

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this raises an important question for you to

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consider as we wrap up today's deep dive. Lay

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it on us. Think about the entertainment, the

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arts, or the industries you consume daily. We

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always celebrate the billionaires and the megastars

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at the very top. But how much of that massive

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industry's foundation is actually built on the

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backs of thousands of local dedicated principal

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Richard Pounds, the unsung regional heroes who

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keep the art form alive in their hometowns when

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the cameras aren't rolling. That is a fascinating

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thread to pull on. It really makes you appreciate

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the local guys in every field. Exactly. We want

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to thank you so much for joining us to explore.

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the incredible life and legacy of John Cosman.

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We hope you enjoyed this journey through the

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trenches of the squared circle. Thanks for listening.

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Until next time, keep digging deeper and we'll

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catch you on the next deep dive.
