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Welcome to today's Deep Dive. I am so thrilled

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you are joining us today. It's going to be a

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really good one. It is, because today we are

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embarking on a very specific kind of mission.

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We're going to uncover a linguistic ghost story.

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Oh, I love that phrasing. A ghost story. Right.

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And we're doing this by exploring a really fascinating

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compilation of research from a single source,

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all about a completely extinct language. It's

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a topic that raises some massive, I mean... Truly

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profound questions about history and memory and

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science. Yeah, how modern science actually pieces

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together the past. Exactly. It really forces

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us to confront how fragile human culture can

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be, but also, you know, how much information

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can be extracted from the tiniest of remnants.

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Provided researchers actually know how to look

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at them. Right. So I want you to imagine something.

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Imagine trying to reverse engineer an entire

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culture's worldview. Their daily habits, their

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environment. All of it. Their relationships,

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everything. from just a handful of isolated nouns

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and verbs. It sounds impossible. It really does.

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But that is the exact challenge linguists face

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with what is known as the Norman Tasmanian language.

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Because we have this vast historical tapestry

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of Australian, Aboriginal and Tasmanian languages.

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I mean, it's a staggering amount of linguistic

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diversity. Huge. But right in the middle of all

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this research, we find this one hyper specific,

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incredibly isolated puzzle piece. A single fragment

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from a massive lost jigsaw puzzle. puzzle. And

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to help us navigate this really delicate, complex

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material, I have our resident expert here. I'm

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ready when you are. There is a lot beneath the

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surface of this research. There really is. So

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here is our journey today. First, we are going

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to look at the mysterious origins of the Norman

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vocabulary. The manuscript itself. Exactly. Then

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we'll look at how modern science actually cracked

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its code before we zoom out to look at the massive

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landscape of Australian and Tasmanian languages

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it belongs to. And finally, we'll explore the

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history and the modern legacy of the people behind

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these words. Okay, let's unpack this. Let's start

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with the core mystery itself. Our entire knowledge

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of the Norman Tasmanian language comes down to

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a single manuscript. From the 19th century. Right.

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It's quite literally nicknamed the Norman vocabulary.

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But what does that actually look like in practice?

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Well. The historical records give us some very

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stark, almost jarring numbers to anchor this.

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This entire linguistic footprint, everything

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we know about how these specific people communicated,

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consists of exactly 386 words. 386 words. That's

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it. I mean, that is essentially just a couple

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of pages of notes. It's barely enough to fill

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a modern brochure. Barely. And who actually wrote

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it down? The records indicate it was recorded

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by a man named Charles Sterling. Okay. Charles

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Sterling. Yeah. And he compiled these words in

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a place called Sorrel in Tasmania during the

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19th century. So we have a name and a place.

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We do. But beyond his name and that location,

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the context is incredibly thin. Which brings

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up a massive question. Who was he talking to?

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Who were the actual speakers? providing these

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386 words to Sterling. What's fascinating here

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is the sheer volume of unknowns surrounding that

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one simple interaction. The research tells us

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the language was presumably spoken somewhere

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in the northeast of Tasmania. Presumably. Yes.

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But the specific tribe, completely unidentified.

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Wow. The exact original location of the speakers.

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Unrecorded. It is officially classified today

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as an extinct language from the 19th century.

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Sterling wrote down those 386 words in Sorel,

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and the rest is silence. Absolute silence. We

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don't have recorded sentences or conversational

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grammar rules. No cultural context. Just an isolated

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list of vocabulary. I really want you, the listener,

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to pause and think about the weight of that manuscript.

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Imagine your entire culture. Your family's history.

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The inside jokes you share. The specific way

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you describe the weather or your hometown. Imagine

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all that being boiled down to just 386 words.

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And written down by a complete outsider. Exactly.

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And that single piece of paper becoming the only

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proof your language ever existed at all. It is

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a profoundly sobering thought. And for a long

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time, that manuscript was just an anomaly sitting

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in an archive. A lingering question mark. Was

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it a complete language? Was it a dialect? Maybe

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just a list of regional slang? Without living

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speakers, nobody really knew. Nobody knew. So

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we had this isolated list of words from the 1800s.

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How did we get from a dusty archive to actually

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understanding what this language was? This is

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where modern science steps in. Here's where it

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gets really interesting. The research highlights

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a major scientific breakthrough published in

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2012. Yes, in the Proceedings of the Royal Society

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B Biological Sciences. Right. It's a highly prestigious

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peer -reviewed journal. The paper is titled The

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Riddle of Tasmanian Languages, authored by researcher

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Claire Bowern. I'm really curious about the methodology

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here. How do you take a static list of 386 words

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and prove anything new about it centuries later?

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It sounds like magic, doesn't it? It does. How

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does she know this wasn't just a slightly different

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accent of a neighboring language? That is exactly

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what Bowern set out to answer. She used modern

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linguistic reconstructions by meticulously examining

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this tiny data set against other known languages

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from the region. She compared them. Yes. She

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looked at the phonetics, the structure of the

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words, the root meanings. Linguists look for

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patterns of divergence. Like how sounds shift

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over time. Exactly. Or how core vocabulary differs

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from nearby groups. Through this deep analysis,

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she proved that this Norman vocabulary was not

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just a regional dialect. that had recently branched

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off. It was an entirely distinct language. Completely

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distinct. That is incredible. A few hundred words

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on a piece of paper and centuries later, a researcher

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can mathematically prove it was a unique, independent

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branch of human communication. It was an absolute

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breakthrough. Her 2012 reconstructions, particularly

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the supplement to her paper, elevated the Norman

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vocabulary from a mere historical curiosity to

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an independent branch on the tree of human language.

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It's such a brilliant example of how modern analytical

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techniques can breathe new understanding into

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centuries old data. Absolutely. But despite that

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massive scientific validation, this language

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remains incredibly marginalized in the official

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administrative records. Highly marginalized.

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Before we started recording, we were looking

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at how this language is formally classified today

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and it's almost paradoxical. It is. When you

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look at the standard administrative classification

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systems that global linguists and anthropologists

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use, you see something highly unusual. Yeah.

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There is no glottalogue code for the Norman Tasmanian

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language. Let's clarify that for the listener

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real quick. Yeah. What exactly is a glottalogue

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code and why does it matter if a language doesn't

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have one? Think of glottalogue codes, along with

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ISO codes, as essentially the Dewey Decimal System

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for human language. Okay. They are the international

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standards used to catalog, track, and manage

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every known language on Earth. If a language

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doesn't have one of these codes, it effectively

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doesn't exist in the modern administrative eyes

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of global linguistics. So it's how researchers

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track data, secure funding, maintain global databases.

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Precisely. And the normal language just doesn't

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have one. No glottalogue code at all. Furthermore,

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its ISO 639 -3 code, which is the gold standard

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for international language coding, is listed

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simply as MIS, which stands for none. None. It's

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literally off the grid. Administratively and

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scientifically, yes. To have no formal ISO or

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glottalogue code. emphasizes how incredibly rare,

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isolated, and fragmentary this linguistic artifact

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is. It exists in the sophisticated reconstructions

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of Claire Bowen. And in the fading ink of Charles

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Sterling. But it defies the neat, standardized

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categorization systems we rely on today. It slips

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right through the administrative cracks. It's

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a linguistic ghost. But obviously, it didn't

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exist in a vacuum. It was part of a larger continent

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of people and an entire network of communication.

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Right. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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we have to look at the massive taxonomy of Australian,

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Aboriginal, and Tasmanian languages. It's a phenomenal

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map of human diversity. It really puts this one

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small vocabulary list into proper perspective.

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It does. Looking at the broader linguistic map,

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you see massive family groups like Pomanyungan,

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which covers huge swaths of the Australian mainland.

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Yes. You see the northern families, the central,

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the western, the tankic, the daily river groups.

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It is an absolute ocean of languages. And down

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at the very bottom of this massive geographical

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and linguistic map, we find the Tasmanian family

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level groups. And this is where we see exactly

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where Norman fits into the puzzle. It belongs

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to the northeastern Tasmanian language family.

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But it wasn't alone in that northeastern family,

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was it? Not at all. It sits alongside other completely

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distinct languages like Pimaire, Tire Note Panner,

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and the Latsky or Black House language. When

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you hear those names, it immediately challenges

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the assumption that an island community would

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be somewhat uniform. Right, you'd think an island

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might just have one language. Exactly. The geographic

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proximity of these groups is what makes the distinctiveness

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of the languages so compelling. To really understand

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the linguistic landscape of Tasmania before these

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languages faded, we have to walk through the

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other family -level groups across the island.

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Let's do it. There was the Western group, which

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included a northwestern Tasmanian language known

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as Pirupper, and potentially a southwestern language

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called Tugi. And moving across the compass points,

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you have the northern group encompassing the

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northern Tasmanian language, Tamagin, and the

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Port Sorrel language. Then finally, the eastern

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group. This cluster included Oyster Bay, which

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is also known as Paraderm, Little Swanport, the

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southeast Tasmanian language, New Anon, and the

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Bruny Island language. When you look at the eastern

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group alone, Oyster Bay, Little Swanport, Bruny

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Island, it tells you something profound. What's

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that? Even geographically closed communities

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had completely distinct linguistic identities,

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rather than just blending into one uniform dialect.

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Tasmania wasn't just some linguistically uniform

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island where everyone spoke the same way. It

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was incredibly diverse. It was a rich, vibrant

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tapestry of distinct voices and distinct ways

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of interpreting the environment. A deeply complex,

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multilingual society. People likely had to navigate

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multiple languages just to trade, negotiate,

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or interact with neighboring communities. And

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the Norman Tasmanian language, with its 386 surviving

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words, was just one single thread in that vast

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tapestry. Which makes the loss of all that diversity

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so profoundly staggering. So what does this all

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mean? We've talked about Charles Sterling's manuscript.

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We've talked about Claire Bowen's 2012 scientific

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reconstruction. We've mapped out this massive

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taxonomy. But we have to address the heavy context

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sitting right at the center of all this research.

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Why are we looking at a map of languages that

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all went extinct in the 19th century? What exactly

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caused an entire island's linguistic diversity

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to vanish? To understand the linguistic extinction,

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we must look directly at the historical events

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linked to the Aboriginal Tasmanians during this

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era. Okay. The records provide a clear, unflinching

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timeline of events under the heading of Aboriginal

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history. These are the devastating 19th century

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events that fundamentally altered the demographic

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and linguistic landscape of Tasmania. What are

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the specific turning points that the historical

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records point to? The historical framework centers

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on the Black War, the Cape Grim Massacre, the

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1828 Proclamation of Demarcation, and the establishment

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of the Waibelena Aboriginal establishment. These

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are intense historical markers. They aren't just

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shifts in policy. They represent profound physical

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displacement. Absolutely. They correspond chronologically

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with the exact period when languages like Norman

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began to vanish. I see. The Black War and the

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Cape Grim Massacre represent periods of intense,

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violent conflict between European settlers and

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Aboriginal populations. And then the Proclamation

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of Demarcation. Right. The 1828 Proclamation

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of Demarcation effectively sought to forcefully

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separate Aboriginal people from European settlers.

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them out of their ancestral lands. And the final

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event listed, the Waibelina Aboriginal Establishment.

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This wasn't just a relocation, it was an institutionalization.

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Exactly. People from various distinct linguistic

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groups, those eastern, western, northern, and

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northeastern families we just mapped out, were

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removed from their lands and placed together

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in this establishment on Flinders Island. Precisely.

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When you forcibly remove a community from the

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specific environment that shaped their vocabulary.

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The environment they've known for generations.

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Yes. And when you disrupt the intergenerational

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transmission of culture through conflict and

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institutionalization, the language inevitably

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suffers. It fades. Understanding these events

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provides the crucial why. It explains why this

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incredibly diverse map of languages faded. It

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is the direct reason why the Norman language

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was reduced to a single 386 -word manuscript

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recorded in Sorrel. The people who spoke these

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languages were navigating immense existential

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threats. They were. And we have to remember,

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these weren't just abstract linguistic anomalies

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or historical statistics. The research highlights

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specific Aboriginal figures tied to this era.

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Individuals whose lives directly intersected

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with this period of massive cultural upheaval.

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It is so essential to ground this history in

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the actual people who lived it. The records honor

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figures like Trigoni, who is often a central

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figure in histories of this era. And Fannie Cochran

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Smith, who actually recorded some of the only

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existing audio of traditional Tasmanian Aboriginal

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songs on wax cylinders. That audio exists. It

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does. Wow. The historical record also lists William

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Lamb, Dolly Dalrymple, and Mammal Argena, who

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was a prominent leader and seer, along with others

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like Waba Dabar, Daniel Geale, Le Guineminer,

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Michael Mansell, Ricky Maynard, Touter, and We're

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Ready. Reading those names out loud anchors the

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history and humanity. When we talk about the

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Norman language going extinct or the new and

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known or parapper languages fading, we are talking

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about the loss of the lived worlds of Trugani,

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Manalarjena, and their ancestors. A language

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isn't just a tool for getting a point across.

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It's a repository of a specific human perspective.

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When it is lost, a unique way of interpreting

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the universe is lost with it. It is. It can feel

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incredibly bleak staring at that word extinct.

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next to all these intricate, beautiful languages

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in the taxonomy. This raises an important question.

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What happens after a language is officially classified

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as extinct by the academic community? Is that

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just the end of the line? Is it? Because the

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research suggests that it actually isn't. It

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absolutely isn't. And this is the part of the

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deep dive that I find incredibly hopeful. Me

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too. If you look closely at the very end of the

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Tasmanian languages taxonomy, past the northern,

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the northeastern, and the eastern groups, there

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is a final distinct category. It is labeled constructed.

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Constructed. And underneath that, it lists one

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language. Kalawakani. Kalawakani. This is a crucial

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detail to synthesize for you, the listener. When

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we see the term constructed in this context,

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it isn't like a fictional language created for

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a sci -fi movie. Right. It's not made up from

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nothing. Not at all. It represents an ongoing,

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highly resilient effort by the modern aboriginal

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community in Tasmania to reconstruct and synthesize

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their indigenous languages today. So they're

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taking those isolated fragments, like the 386

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words of the Norman vocabulary and the remaining

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fragments from Pure Rapper and New Anon and all

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those other languages, and they are actively

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bringing them back into daily use. Exactly. Even

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when original, distinct languages like Norman

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lose their native speakers due to the devastating

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historical events we outlined, the desire to

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connect with that linguistic heritage remains

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deeply ingrained. And Palauakani is the physical,

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spoken evidence of that resilience. It shows

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that while the Norman language as it existed

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in the 19th century might be scientifically classified

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as extinct, the words themselves are still profoundly

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valued. They're being carefully woven into a

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new living framework. Yes. It is like finding

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those scattered puzzle pieces and finally putting

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them together to form a brand new picture. It

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won't look exactly like the linguistic landscape

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from a thousand years ago. But it is made of

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them. very same material. It is a modern rebirth.

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It's a testament to the fact that language is

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never truly gone as long as there are people

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who care enough to speak it, to study it, or

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even just to remember it. The work of researchers

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like Claire Bowen in 2012, proving the distinctness

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of the Norman vocabulary, feeds directly into

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this larger understanding of what was lost. And

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that scientific understanding, in turn, helps

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inform the modern efforts to reclaim it. What

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a journey this has been today. From a tiny, overlooked

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vocabulary list to a massive story about human

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resilience. Let's do a quick recap of what we've

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covered today. Sounds good. We started with the

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sheer isolation of Charles Sterling's manuscript.

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Just 386 words recorded in Sorrel, Tasmania in

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the 19th century, representing a completely unidentified

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tribe. We then looked at how modern science stepped

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in. Specifically, Claire Bowen's 2012 paper in

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the Proceedings of the Royal Society B, which

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reconstructed those words to prove they represented

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a completely distinct language. Even though it

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remains off the grid without an official glottalogue

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or ISO code today. Right. We zoomed out to see

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where Norman fit within the massive, diverse

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taxonomy of Australian, Aboriginal, and Tasmanian

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languages, nesting it alongside PMR and Ternopanner

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in the Northeastern family. Illustrating just

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how vibrantly diverse the island truly was. And

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we examined the devastating 19th century historical

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context. Events like the Black War, the Cape

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Grim Massacre, and the institutionalization at

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Weeblenna. The events that drove these languages

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to extinction. While honoring the names of the

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aboriginal people from that era who lived through

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that upheaval. Finally, we looked at the legacy

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of this history, finding hope in the constructed

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language Palawakani. Which proves that the desire

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to speak and remember these languages is still...

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very much alive today i want to leave you the

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listener with one final thought to mull over

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We spent a lot of time today talking about Charles

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Sterling's manuscript. 386 words. Such a small

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number. It is a staggeringly small number. If,

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centuries from now, a future linguist only had

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386 words to completely understand the nuances,

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the humor, the deep relationships, and the depth

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of your daily life and your community, which

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specific words would you desperately hope made

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it onto that list? What words define your world

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so completely that you couldn't bear for them

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to be lost to history? Oh, wow. That is a powerful

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question to end on. Which 386 words define you?

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I'll be thinking about that all day. Thank you

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so much for joining us on this deep dive. We

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loved exploring this linguistic ghost story with

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you, and we can't wait to see you next time as

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we unpack another fascinating topic. Until then,

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keep asking questions and keep exploring.
