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Welcome everyone to the Deep Dive. We are so

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glad to have you joining us today. Absolutely.

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It's great to be here. I want you to start by

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picturing a scenario in your mind. Just really

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imagine this. You're facing a devastating career

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-ending physical trauma right at the end of a

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lifetime of breaking glass ceilings. Right. Imagine

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building an entire career, like an entire identity

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around one highly specific physical skill. only

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to lose the ability to do it literally overnight.

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And then instead of giving up, you completely

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reinvent how you work. I mean, it's a profound

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premise, and it's exactly the kind of story that

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forces you to look at your own life and ask how

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you might react under that same level of immense

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crushing pressure. Exactly. Today, our topic

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is the life and legacy of Marie Compton Horseman,

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who is universally known as Molly Horseman. She

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was a pioneering Australian comic book artist

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and illustrator and a fashion artist who lived

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from 1911 to 1974. Our source material for this

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deep dive is her comprehensive Wikipedia biography.

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Which is packed with details. It really is. Our

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mission today is to track Molly's journey through

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what was a heavily male -dominated industry,

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to look at her profound impact on Australian

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pop culture, and ultimately to extract a powerful

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lesson in resilience that you can apply to your

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own life. OK, let's unpack this. I am ready when

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you are, because when you look at the timeline

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of Molly's life, you see someone who never allowed

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her circumstances to dictate her output. She

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was just a master at adapting to massive societal

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shifts and intense personal tragedies. Let's

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start with her early years. Because the geography

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alone is dizzying. Oh, yeah. She was born on

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December 9th, 1911, in a place called Rochester,

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Victoria, down in Australia. Her parents were

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Frederick Ernest Horsman, a farmer, and Catherine

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Marie Compson, who was a migrant from Yorkshire,

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England. So, you know, you might picture this

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quiet, rural, stable upbringing. Right, the classic

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farm life. But that is not what happens at all.

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Not even close. Her early life was completely

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defined by disruption. In 1924, when Molly was

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just 13 years old, her parents separated. 13.

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It's such a tough age anyway. It really is. And

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to give you some context on the era, they wouldn't

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officially divorce until October 1933. The social

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stigma and the complex legalities around separation

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in the 1920s meant that families often lived

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in this prolonged state of limbo. Wow. But for

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Molly, that separation triggered a massive immediate

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upheaval. Whiplash is the only word I can think

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of for it. Yeah. Because they don't just, you

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know, move to the next town over. Molly and her

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mother leave Australia entirely. Where else in

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the world? They travel to England and then they

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relocate to Germany. And the contrast in their

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daily lives over there is what really catches

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my attention from the source. Her mother ends

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up managing a canteen for the British Army. Right.

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While Molly is sent to attend a German finishing

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school. How does a young teenager process that

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kind of contrast? It's a wildly jarring juxtaposition.

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On one hand, you have the utilitarian, rough

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and tumble environment of a military canteen.

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It's practical. It's working class. It's absolute

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survival mode for her newly single mother. And

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on the other hand, you have the highly formalized,

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strict, very polished environment of a European

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finishing school. But think about what that does

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for an artist's eye. Oh, that's true. This unconventional

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education exposed her to a huge variety of social

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classes, languages, and cultures at a highly

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impressionable age. She is learning to observe

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people from all walks of life. That makes a lot

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of sense. Yeah. So after all this bouncing around

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Europe, she eventually returns to Australia.

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Does she finally find some stability? Well, she

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finds employment, but in a very unique household.

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She takes a job working as a governess. Okay.

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But she isn't working for just anyone. She is

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employed by the famous Australian artist Norman

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Lindsay and his second wife, Rose, taking care

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of their two daughters. Yeah. And for those who

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might not be deep into Australian art history,

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Norman Lindsay was a massive figure. He was a

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prolific artist, sculptor. or a writer. So she

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is living and working right in the center of

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a highly creative, probably very eccentric environment.

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Precisely. And that turns out to be a pivotal

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stroke of luck. Lindsay had the artistic eye

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to recognize raw talent. He noticed Molly's drawing

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skills while she was just going about her day

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working in his home. Just sketching in her downtime.

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Exactly. And he strongly recommended that she

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attend the National Arts School. So she gets

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this golden recommendation. She enrolls at the

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East Sydney Technical College. But she doesn't

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actually finish, does she? No, she doesn't. Financial

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struggles force her to leave before finishing

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her course. She didn't get to complete her formal

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education or get that official piece of paper.

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Man, that's frustrating. It is. However, during

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the brief time she was there, she was heavily

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influenced by the artistic style of another major

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figure, Rainer Hoff. Wait, so she drops out because

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she runs out of money. How common was it back

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then to just push forward into an art career

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without the actual degree, especially for a woman

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in the 1920s? It was incredibly difficult. The

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establishment was very gatekept. Dropping out

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could have easily been the end of the road for

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her artistic ambitions. But she utilized the

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informal mentorship she had. She absorbed the

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encouragement of Norman Lindsay. She took the

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stylistic influence of Rainer Hoff. And she essentially

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built her own foundation. I want you to really

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consider that for a second. Think about how often

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we hold ourselves back because we feel we don't

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have the right formal credentials. We don't have

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the degree, the certification, the official stamp

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of approval. We let that stop us. We do. Molly's

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story asks you to consider how informal mentorship

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and real -world exposure often outweigh formal

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credentials when you have raw talent and relentless

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drive. It is a phenomenal lesson in resourcefulness.

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She took what she needed from those brief encounters

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with the art establishment and just moved on.

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And here's where it gets really interesting.

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Because she doesn't just move on. She makes absolute

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history. Yes, she does. In 1929, Molly, along

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with another artist named Joan Morrison, became

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the first female cartoonist to be hired as permanent

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employees at Smith's Weekly. We really need to

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pause and visualize this. We are talking about

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1929. Breaking into a permanent cartoonist role

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at a major publication like Smith's Weekly was

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a massive disruption to the newsroom culture

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of that era. Paint that picture for us. You have

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to imagine what a 1920s newsroom sounded and

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smelled like. It was loud. It was filled with

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cigar smoke, clacking typewriters. And it was

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notoriously an absolute boys club. It was a rough,

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highly cynical environment. And remember her

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birth year. She was born in late 1911. That means

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in 1929, when she is breaking this massive glass

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ceiling in a tough -as -nails newsroom, she's

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only 17 or 18 years old. It's staggering. How

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does a teenager even hold her ground in that

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room? By being undeniably good at her job. For

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two women to secure permanent roles as cartoonists

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wasn't just a fun career win. It was a structural

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shift in who was allowed to comment on the culture.

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Yeah. But while her professional life is breaking

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all these boundaries, her personal life is becoming

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incredibly complex. Right. I was reading through

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the timeline of her personal life in the source

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material, and it is a complete whirlwind. To

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put her output into perspective, the 1930s and

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40s were just a chaotic era for her personally.

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Very much so. Across a little over a decade,

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she navigates. Two marriages and two divorces.

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First to William Longford Power, who was an articled

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clerk, which is essentially a lawyer in training

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doing an apprenticeship. Right. And then later

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to Nelson Illingworth, the grandson of a well

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-known sculptor. And between these two marriages,

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she ends up having five children. Yes. One son

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from her first marriage and then another son

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and three daughters from her second. So she is

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raising five children. navigating divorces, and

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eventually moving the family up to Brisbane in

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the early 1940s. And yet, amidst all that domestic

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chaos and the immense mental load of single motherhood

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in the 1940s, her professional output doesn't

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slow down. It actually accelerates. That is the

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hustle that defines her middle career. She is

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freelancing extensively to keep a roof over her

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family's head. She has to. Exactly. She isn't

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just an artist sitting in a studio waiting for

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inspiration. She is a working professional putting

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food on the table. She is drawing comic strips

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for Frank Johnson publications. She's contributing

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cartoons to Man Magazine, to the Australian Woman's

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Mirror, and even to Ridge's Business Journal,

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where she created a popular comic called The

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Tipple Twins. That is such a wild spread of audiences.

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She's drawing for a men's magazine, a women's

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domestic magazine, and a dry business journal

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all at the same exact time. It shows her incredible

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adaptability. She could shift her tone, her style,

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and her humor to fit whatever duplication was

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cutting the check that month. So she has mastered

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the daily grind. She can write for anyone. But

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then we hit 1946, and she takes on a role at

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the Courier Mail. at their Sydney production

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unit. Right. And this leads to a transition that

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introduces both profound tragedy and the biggest

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opportunity of her career. This is a highly sensitive

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juncture. There was another cartoonist working

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there named Gene Cullen. Tragically, Gene Cullen

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died by suicide. It's awful. It was a terrible,

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shocking loss for the publication and for the

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tight -knit cartooning community. It is an incredibly

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heavy situation to walk into. Following Colin's

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death, Molly steps in and takes responsibility

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for Colin's new comic strip called Pam, which

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ran in the Sunday Mail. She also takes over a

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strip called The Clothes Horse in the Sydney

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Morning Herald. What's fascinating here is the

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delicate psychological balance she had to strike.

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She was taking over the creative property of

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a deceased colleague. That requires an immense

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amount of respect, tact, and empathy. Because

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everyone knows. Right. The readers know what

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happened. The editors know what happened. But

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she also had to make the work her own in order

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for it to survive long term. Think about the

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pressure of that. For a modern analogy, it is

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like being asked to take over as the lead writer

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and showrunner on a hit television show under

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the most tragic circumstances imaginable. The

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fans are grieving, the network needs the show

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to go on to sell advertising, and you have to

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somehow honor the original creator's voice while

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steering the ship forward with your own ideas.

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And she didn't just steer the ship. She turned

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it into an absolute powerhouse. Pam became Molly's

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best known, most famous work. It didn't just

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survive the transition. It thrived. It ran for

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over 11 years and became widely syndicated. She

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honored Cullen's creation while making it a defining

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pillar of her own career for over a decade. OK,

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so she masters the syndicated comic strip. She

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honors her colleagues legacy and she enters her

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career. But as we move into the late 1950s and

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the swinging 60s, the culture starts to shift

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dramatically around her. It really does. In 1957,

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she moves to Avalon, which is this beautiful

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northern beach suburb of Sydney with her five

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kids. And her work takes this brilliantly subversive

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turn. Yes. The 1960s bring out a whole new side

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of Molly. She starts contributing heavily to

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a magazine called Everybody's. But what is particularly

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interesting is that she often published anonymously

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where she used a pen name. Vanessa. I am obsessed

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with the Vanessa era. It's great. Because under

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this alter ego, she is doing these weekly full

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page color cartoons centered around a sexy man

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type. And then in 1964, she does a serial called

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Girl Crusoe. The source notes this was a direct

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pointed parody of the Good Girl Cheesecake comics

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that were wildly popular at the time. connect

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this to the bigger picture, you can see how actively

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she was playing with the gender tropes of the

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1960s. For listeners who might not be familiar,

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cheesecake art was everywhere back then. It really

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was. It consisted of highly idealized, often

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objectified drawings of scantily clad women,

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usually in mildly perilous or clumsy situations.

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It was created almost entirely by male artists

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for a male audience. Right. It's a definition

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of the male gaze in comic form. Exactly. And

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Molly flips the script completely. She parodies

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the cheesecake genre. She turns it right back

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around on them. It is so sharp and so modern.

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She is trolling the industry from the inside.

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And her dominance in this space was so absolute

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that in 1963, everybody's magazine published

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a piece hailing her as Australia's only woman

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cartoonist. Which is a revealing detail because

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technically that statement was inaccurate. She

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wasn't the only woman cartoonist in the country.

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So why would a major magazine print that? It

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tells you two critical things about the era.

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First, it highlights just how isolated women

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still were in this field. Decades after she broke

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into that newsroom in 1929, the industry was

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still so male -dominated that an editor could

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plausibly believe she was the only woman doing

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it. That's wild. And second, it proves that she

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so completely dominated the space that in the

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public imagination, she was practically the only

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one who mattered. She was the gold standard.

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She really was. But as we move into the final

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segment of her life, the story takes a turn that

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requires an unimaginable level of grit. In the

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late 60s, she moves back to Brisbane. Yes, between

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1967 and 1969, she shifts gears a bit. She moves

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away from the weekly magazine grind and focuses

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on illustrating books for Jacaranda Press. A

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different pace entirely. She works on titles

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like The Lost Boomerang, Let Us Read Bee, and

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The Magic Car. Notably, in 1970, she illustrated

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Kath Walker's book My People, which is a very

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significant piece of Australian literary history.

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After her time in Brisbane, she moves to the

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Blue Mountains in New South Wales. The plan seems

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to be to continue her freelance work at a slower

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pace and to paint landscapes. It sounds idyllic,

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right? It sounds like exactly what she deserved.

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A well -earned, peaceful chapter for a woman

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who has been working relentlessly to support

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her family for over four decades. But then, in

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1973, disaster strikes. Molly is hit by a car.

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The injuries from the accident were severe, and

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the physical trauma of the event led to a stroke.

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Now, a stroke is devastating in any circumstance,

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but for Molly, it had a highly specific, cruel

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consequence. It completely paralyzed her right

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hand, her drawing hand. So what does this all

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mean? I want you to really put yourself in her

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shoes for a moment. Think about your greatest

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skill, the thing you've got your entire life

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around, the thing that gives you your identity

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and puts a roof over your head. Everything you

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know. Now, imagine losing the physical ability

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to do it overnight at the age of 61, to look

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at your dominant hand and realize it simply won't

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respond anymore. Would you have the grit to start

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from scratch the next day? Because that is exactly

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what Molly did. It is almost impossible to overstate

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the psychological hurdle of that moment. The

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identity crisis of an artist losing their medium

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is profound. Instead of retiring, instead of

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accepting that her career was over, she painstakingly

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taught herself to draw all over again. Gives

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me chills. She rewired her brain at age 61. to

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draw with her non -dominant left hand. The mechanics

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of that are staggering. To have the visual mastery

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in your mind, but have to train a clumsy, untrained

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hand to execute those precise lines all over

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again, the frustration must have been immense.

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It is the ultimate testament to her unyielding

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creative drive. For Molly, drawing wasn't just

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a career or a job title. It was a fundamental

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way of existing in the world. To stop drawing

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meant to stop living. She simply refused to let

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the physical limitations of her body dictate

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the end of her creative output. It is awe -inspiring.

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She managed to keep creating until her body simply

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gave out. Molly died on May 7, 1974, at the age

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of 62, in the Blue Mountains Hospital in Katoomba.

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She is buried at St. Thomas' Church in Mulgoa.

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Her output right up to the very end is a monument

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to resilience. She left behind a legacy that

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is stitched into the very fabric of Australian

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illustration and comic history. Which brings

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us to the end of our deep dive today. We have

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tracked a life that is almost too big for just

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one sitting. Molly Horseman survived a geographically

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chaotic teenagehood. She shattered the glass

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ceiling of a male -dominated newsroom at just

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18 years old. She navigated the immense challenges

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of single motherhood with five children while

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outworking everyone around her, and she overcame

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a devastating physical trauma to keep her art

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alive. She left behind a massive, enduring legacy.

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Thank you so much for joining us to explore her

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story. This raises an important question, though.

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Molly Horseman shaped the visual culture of Australia

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for decades. Her comic strips were read by millions,

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her illustrations graced magazines and books.

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Yet her name isn't widely known outside of specific

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art history circles. Very true. I want you to

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ponder something. How much of our daily pop culture,

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the comics we read, the tropes we enjoy, the

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visual shorthand we take for granted? was quietly

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built by women working under pseudonyms or stepping

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into the void left by others. Women whose names

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have been slowly erased by time because they

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didn't fit the traditional narrative of the solitary

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male genius. What other hidden architects of

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our culture are waiting in the archives to be

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rediscovered? That is a brilliant thought to

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end on. A huge thank you to all of you for listening.

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We hope this story inspires you to look a little

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closer at the art you consume and the names behind

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it. Keep exploring, stay curious, and as always,

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keep diving deep. See you next time.
