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Welcome in, everyone. We are so thrilled you're

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joining us today. Absolutely. You are here because

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you love to peel back the layers of things you

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thought you knew, or maybe, you know, you're

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just looking to discover something completely

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off your radar. Yeah, you've got that natural

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curiosity. Exactly. And we've put together a

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deep dive today that is going to be incredibly

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fun, a little bit weird, and surprisingly fascinating.

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It really is, because for today's mission, we

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are extracting the absolute best, most compelling

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nuggets from a wikipedia article that details

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this very specific almost forgotten slice of

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1980s music history right we are looking at the

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1988 funk rock single rev it up oh man yeah by

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jerry harrison performed with his band casual

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gods and we're gonna dig into how a track actually

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comes together the nuts and bolts of it exactly

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we'll look at the physical spaces that shape

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our art how a song finds its audience and the

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downright bizarre journey it takes along the

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way and trust me you are gonna to want to hear

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this one because what we have here is this incredible

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juxtaposition. Oh, the contrast is wild. It really

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is. We're talking about a song that rocketed

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up rock charts globally, like a massive international

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hit. Yeah. But it wasn't born in some sleek,

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you know, million dollar Los Angeles studio with

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champagne and ocean views. Not at all. No, it

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was born out of a family visit and it was recorded

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in an actual literal underground bomb shelter.

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Okay, let's unpack this. Right, so to really

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understand how unusual this is... We have to

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travel back to the mid -1980s and look at the

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landscape of pop and rock music at that time.

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Set the scene for us. Well, Jerry Harrison was

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an incredibly busy guy. He was the keyboardist

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and guitarist for Talking Heads. Which is huge.

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Oh, massive. They were, at that time, one of

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the most critically acclaimed and influential

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bands on the planet. I mean, they were coming

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off huge successes, heavy touring, deeply complex

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recording sessions. It's a whirlwind. Exactly.

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But right in the middle of all that momentum,

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you know, life happens. to take a break yeah

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so he leaves the bustling highly competitive

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state -of -the -art music scene of new york city

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and he returns to his hometown of milwaukee wisconsin

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Which is such a grounded reason to step away

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from the limelight. It really is. I mean, he's

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not going on some extravagant, highly publicized

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spiritual retreat in the desert, right? He's

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going home to Wisconsin to support his mother.

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Yeah, it's a very human starting point. It totally

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is. But obviously, a musician of that caliber

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still needs an outlet. You can't just turn that

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off. Right. So he's in Milwaukee. The creative

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itch is clearly still there. And he starts asking

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around for a place to play. What does he actually

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find in Milwaukee? Well, he meets this young

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group of local musicians and basically asks them

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a simple question. He says, where is the best

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recording studio in the city? Naturally. And

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they point him toward a guy named David Vartanian.

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Now, serendipitously, Harrison actually knew

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Vartanian from his childhood. No way. Yeah. So

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there's this immediate, unexpected hometown connection

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that instantly lowers the stakes. It creates

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this very comfortable dynamic right off the bat.

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That makes total sense. But the actual studio

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space Vartanian was running, that is where the

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story takes a really sharp deviation from normal

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music industry practices. Let's talk about that

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space. Because Vartanian agrees to rent Harrison

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the studio. But this isn't some soundproofed

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room overlooking the Milwaukee skyline, is it?

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Not even close. Vartanian had built his recording

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studio inside an underground bomb shelter. A

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literal Cold War era bunker. An actual bunker.

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Yes. Let's just think about the logistics of

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that for a second. Yeah. You've got this rock

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star fresh out of the New York scene stepping

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down into a subterranean concrete relic. Yeah,

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just climbing down into the earth. What does

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that actually do to the recording process? Because

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I have to imagine the acoustics down there were

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completely wild. Well, the acoustics are a huge

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part of the story. Yeah. Think about it. When

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you build a recording studio in a normal building,

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you spend... Tens of thousands of dollars on

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soundproofing. Right. The floating floors, the

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acoustic foam. Exactly. Double -paned glass.

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All of it. All to keep the noise of the outside

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world out and the noise of the music in? Sure.

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Well, a bomb shelter already does that perfectly

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by design. You have feet of solid concrete and

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earth surrounding you. It is total... Absolute

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isolation. You go down into the earth, the heavy

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steel door shuts and it's just you and the music.

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But and here's the catch. Concrete also creates

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a very specific natural reverberation. Because

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it's so hard and reflective. Right. It bounces

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sound waves around in a way that is harsh, it's

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bright, and it's incredibly difficult to control

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unless you really know what you're doing. So

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it forces you to adapt. You can't just rely on

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standard studio tricks. You really have to play

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the room itself. What's fascinating here is how

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much that specific restrictive environment seemingly

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shaped the entire project. This wasn't just a

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quick one -off demo session. Oh, really? No.

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Almost the entirety of Harrison's second solo

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album, Casual Gods, was recorded right there.

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They're in that bunker. The whole album. Almost

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all of it. To give you a sense of the contrast,

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out of the whole album, only one single track,

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a song called A .K .A. Love, was recorded back

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in New York City at Sigma Sound Studios. Okay,

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I've heard of Sigma Sound. That's a pretty legendary

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place, right? It is legendary. Sigma Sound was

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famous for pioneering the slick, lush Philadelphia

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soul sound, and later it became a massive hub

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for pristine pop and disco. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's

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top of the line, spacious, just pristine. So

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you have one track recorded in this cathedral

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of polished pop, and then the rest of the sonic

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foundation of the Casual Gods record is cooked

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up in a subterranean, highly restricted Milwaukee

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bunker. That is quite the sonic whiplash. It

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really highlights... it's the idea that limitations

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often breed the best creativity. You don't always

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need the most expensive room in the world to

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capture magic. Sometimes you just need a space

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that forces you to focus entirely on the raw

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energy of the performance. And the raw energy

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they captured on Rev It Up is potent. I was looking

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into the genre classifications, and while it's

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technically labeled as funk rock, Harrison himself

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described the song as sounding like an Eddie

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Cochran track. Which is an amazing reference.

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Right. For those listening, Eddie Cochran is

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1950s rockabilly. He's all about that driving,

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undeniable, almost rebellious guitar energy.

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Think of songs like Summertime Blues. Yeah, just

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straight ahead power. But how do you take that

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raw 50s rock energy and filter it through an

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80s funk rock lens while you're standing down

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in a bunker? That fusion comes directly from

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the people in the room, the primary guitar riff,

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the engine that really drives the song and gives

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it that Cochran -esque forward momentum that

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wasn't just Harrison sitting alone with a notepad.

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How did it happen? It came out of a spontaneous

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jam session with Alex Weir. Okay, who exactly

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is Alex Weir for those who might not know the

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deep cuts of 80s funk? Oh, Alex Weir is an incredibly

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accomplished rhythm guitarist. He's best known

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for his work with the American funk band the

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Brothers Johnson. Yeah. And he also toured extensively

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with Talking Heads. So Weir brings this elite...

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highly syncopated funk sensibility to the table.

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Oh, I see. So you have, we're locking in with

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Harrison, trading ideas back and forth, and they

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just start building out these riffs together,

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finding that perfect pocket between rock power

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and funk groove. So who else did he bring down

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into this bunker? Was it just local Milwaukee

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guys or did he fly in heavy hitters? Oh, he brought

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in a staggering roster. It is a genuine all -star

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lineup of session musicians and absolute legends.

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Really? Like who? Well, you've got Ernie Brooks

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and John Seeger co -writing the track with Harrison.

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Okay. You've got Chris Spedding laying down the

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bass. Arlene Holmes is providing vocals. And

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then just casually playing keyboards, you have

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the absolute legend, Bernie Worrell. Bernie Worrell,

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the mastermind behind the Parliament Funkadelic

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sound. Exactly. Bernie Worrell is one of the

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most important figures in the history of funk

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music. Absolutely. His use of the Minimoog synthesizer

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basically defined the P -Funk sound. He also

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played heavily with Talking Heads, which is the

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direct connection here. That makes sense. But

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just picture this absurdly talented collective

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of funk and rock heavyweights, guys who are used

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to playing stadiums and massive theaters, all

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jammed into a Wisconsin bomb shelter. laying

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down this complex, highly textured groove. It's

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a phenomenal visual. Just the sheer volume of

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talent in that tiny concrete room. It's incredible.

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But from what I understand, after they build

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this incredibly complex, tight, collaborative

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funk rock instrumental, Harrison takes the lyrics

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in a completely different direction. He really

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does. Because he doesn't go esoteric or abstract,

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which he easily could have done given his avant

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-garde background with talking heads. No, he

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doesn't do that at all. When it comes time to

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write the words, he leans into the most familiar,

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classic, almost cliche Americana topic imaginable.

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The lyrics are essentially just about a boy and

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a girl driving in a car. It is the most straight

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down the middle rock and roll trope you can find.

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It's Chuck Berry. It's Bruce Springsteen. Rev

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it up. A fast car and a girl. It's so intentionally

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simple. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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this is a masterclass in pop songwriting psychology.

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How so? Pairing a highly complex, fiercely collaborative

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funk groove with a lyrical concept that is universally

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understood and instantly accessible is a proven

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recipe for a hit. Oh, that makes total sense.

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Right. If the musical bed is challenging, highly

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textured, and rhythmically dense, giving the

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listener a simple, relatable, lyrical anchor

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allows them to latch on to the song immediately.

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You don't want to make the listener work too

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hard on both fronts. Yeah, you don't want to

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exhaust them. Exactly. The groove makes their

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body move, but the lyrics make it easy for their

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brain to process and remember. Here's where it

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gets really interesting. Because if you think

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a boy and a girl in a car is a straightforward

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visual, wait until we talk about how they actually

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promoted this thing. Oh boy. The music video

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for Rev It Up is a piece of late 80s surrealism.

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It was directed by Harrison himself, produced

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by Bell One Productions, and filmed in New York.

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Yeah. But they didn't film a cool couple driving

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a vintage Mustang down the highway. Oh, no. The

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video features actual babies hanging out at a

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gritty biker bar riding around on big wheels.

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It is spectacularly absurd. Let me just ask you,

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as someone who studies this era, was that some

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deep avant -garde artistic statement? Or were

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they just trying to make something weird enough

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to cut for the noise and get MTV's attention?

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It's a bit of both, but mostly it's a reaction

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to the era. you know the late 1980s was the absolute

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peak of the mtv generation and Rock videos at

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the time were incredibly self -serious. You had

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hair metal bands with giant pyrotechnics, wind

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machines, and lots of macho posturing. A lot

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of brooding into the camera. Exactly. So by putting

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toddlers in leather jackets at a dive bar, Harrison

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is completely undercutting the seriousness of

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that rock star posturing. It highlights a real

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sense of playfulness and irreverence. He's basically

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saying, hey, we made this incredible groove,

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but we don't take ourselves too seriously. It's

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brilliant and it's weird. Yeah. And speaking

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of late 80s, we have to talk about how this music

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was physically released to the public. Yes. 1988

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was such a chaotic, wildly transitional time

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for physical media. Mm hmm. Record labels were

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essentially throwing everything at the wall to

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see what consumers actually wanted to buy. That's

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exactly right. The industry was in total flux.

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Vinyl was still dominant, but the compact disc

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was rapidly gaining ground and cassettes were

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everywhere. So Rev It Up wasn't just released

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as a standard seven -inch record. Oh, no. The

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release history across different formats is extensive

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and, frankly, a collector's dream. Walk us through

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what people were actually buying when they went

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to the record store to get this single. In the

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U .S., it started with a standard set. Why was

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the 12 -inch vinyl so important for a track like

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this? The 12 -inch single was crucial in the

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80s, especially for dance, funk, and club music.

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Because the disc is physically larger but still

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only holds one or two songs per side, the grooves

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cut into the vinyl can be much wider and spaced

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further apart. Which means what for the sound?

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Wider grooves mean you can press the music much

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louder. And specifically, you can capture much

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deeper, heavier bass frequencies without the

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needle literally jumping out of the groove. Oh,

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wow. Yeah, so for a funk track with guys like

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Bernie Worrell and Chris Spedding laying down

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the low end, the 12 -inch format allowed club

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DJs to literally shake the... walls in a way

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a smaller seven inch record just couldn't do

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that makes perfect sense they also released it

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on the relatively new standard compact disc and

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this is my personal favorite detail the european

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cd video oh yes can you please explain what on

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earth the cd video was the cd video or cdv is

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one of the great failed experiments of physical

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media For those listening who might not remember

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them or were born well after their brief lifespan,

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a CD video was a disc that looked exactly like

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a standard gold -tinted audio CD. Same size and

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everything. Same size. You could put it in a

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normal CD player and it would play about 20 minutes

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of standard audio, but it also held exactly one

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analog music video. But you couldn't watch it

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on a CD player. Right. To actually watch the

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video part, you needed a specific, very expensive

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laser disc player. It was a completely transient,

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confusing format that tried to bridge the gap

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between... audio and home video, but Rev It Up

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was immortalized on it for the European market.

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We also cannot skip over the mixes themselves,

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because I am completely geeking out over the

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names of the B -sides and the remixes included

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across these different vinyl and CD formats.

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The Art of the Remix title was at its absolute

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peak right here. Oh, the 1980s was the golden

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age of the extended mix and the dub. It wasn't

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just about making the song longer, it was about

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totally deconstructing it. Exactly. On the B

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-side of some releases... you have a track called

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Bobby, but specifically the aboriginal mix that

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runs almost seven minutes long. Yeah. And on

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the 12 -inch and European maxi CD, you get the

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teller and back mix of Rev It Up. Which is just

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a fantastic, terrible pun. So good. And then,

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paying direct homage to their subterranean recording

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roots, there is a mix titled Bad Bruce's Wisconsin

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Dub. Now, a dub in this context is really interesting.

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Taking cues from Jamaican reggae and dancehall,

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an 80s dub mix usually meant stripping away most

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of the lead vocals, isolating that drum and bass

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rhythm section, and heavily manipulating the

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track with echo, reverb, and delay effects. So

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Bad Bruce's Wisconsin dub would have been this

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spacious, trippy, rhythm -heavy version of the

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song, which is incredibly ironic given it was

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actually recorded in a tight, claustrophobic

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bunker. You just don't see naming conventions

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like that anymore. Yeah. It gives the whole physical

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package so much texture. and geographical personality

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before you even put the needle on the record.

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Definitely. But despite the Wisconsin dubs and

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the underground origins, the appeal of Revin'

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Up was undeniably global. It didn't just stay

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a local curiosity. Not at all. Let's trace how

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far from those origins the song actually traveled

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because the chart performance narrative is a

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wild ride. Break it down for us. Where does it

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start? It starts in the United States. The single

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dropped in January 1988. by early february it

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debuted at number 35 on the u .s billboard album

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rock tracks chart okay this specific chart tracked

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airplay on mainstream rock radio stations across

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the country and the song didn't just flash and

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fade it was a slow steady burn it climbed the

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chart for nine weeks until april eventually hitting

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its peak at number seven a top ten hit on u .s

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rock radio was huge It is. And it stayed on the

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charts top 50 for a staggering 16 weeks, eventually

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landing at number 31 on the year end rock chart.

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That shows serious longevity. It means people

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were continually requesting it and DJs genuinely

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liked playing it. But it didn't stop at the U

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.S. borders. How did it do internationally? This

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is where it gets crazy. The song jumps the ocean

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and explodes in Oceania. In Australia, it debuted

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on the charts in March and climbed all the way

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to number three by May. Number three. Yeah. And

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over in New Zealand, it was a massive smash,

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peaking at number six on the R -A -N -Z singles

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chart, spending 15 weeks charting and finishing

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at number 40 on their year -end list. Think about

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how wild that is. A track cooked up underground

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in the American Midwest somehow captures the

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exact sonic frequency needed to make people dance

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and buy records in Australia and New Zealand.

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It's mind -blowing. And from what I read, it

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kept traveling even further. It did. It crossed

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into Europe, becoming Harrison's only charting

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solo single in both the UK, where it hit number

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90, and West Germany, where it reached number

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45. And eventually it reached the African continent,

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peaking at number 14 on the Springbok radio chart

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in South Africa and holding a top 20 spot there

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for three weeks. So what does this all mean?

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Yeah. When you look at all these data points

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together, from a U .S. rock radio staple to a

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top three hit in Australia, from West Germany

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to South Africa. Yeah. You have to step back

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and marvel at the journey. You really do. A track

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that was literally conceived because a guy wanted

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to go home to Wisconsin to help his mom recorded

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with old friends in a concrete bunker somehow

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transcended all of that. It completely bypassed

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the typical, heavily manufactured corporate music

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machinery and just resonated purely on the strength

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of its groove. It's a beautiful synthesis of

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so many disparate elements. You have a familial

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obligation leading to geographical isolation.

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You have that isolation leading to a reunion

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with a childhood acquaintance. You have the acoustic

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anomaly of a Cold War barm shelter. You have

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the collision of elite funk musicians in a jam

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session. Don't forget the babies. Right. You

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throw in some toddlers. on big wheels for MTV,

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press it onto transient formats like the CD video,

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and somehow the alchemy of all those limitations

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and weird choices creates an international hit

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that dominates global charts for months. It really

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is alchemy. It's lightning in a bottle. This

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raises an important question. For you listening

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right now, we've spent this whole time talking

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about how isolation, physical constraints, and

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the literal concrete walls of a bunker shape

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this record. But in today's modern era of cloud

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-based music production where artists can collaborate

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instantly from sleek, perfectly tuned bedrooms

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across the globe without ever actually meeting

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in the same room, are we losing something? Oh,

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that's a great point. Are we actually losing

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the weird, irreplaceable magic of physical limitations?

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When you have infinite tracks, infinite digital

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instruments, and no geographical barriers, you

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don't have to adapt to a harsh concrete wall

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or rely on a spontaneous jam with whoever happens

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to be in town. Next time you hear a perfectly

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polished, mathematically flawless, modern pop

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track, you have to wonder if it might have been

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just a little bit better if they were forced

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to record it underground. That is exactly the

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kind of question we love to leave you with. Constraint

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breeds creativity, and perfection can sometimes

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be the enemy of groove. Thank you so much for

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joining us on this deep dive. Keep asking questions,

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keep looking for the strange variables in your

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own life, and always look for the surprising

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stories hidden in the liner notes. We will catch

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you next time.
