WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.100
I want you to picture, just for a second, the

00:00:02.100 --> 00:00:04.900
sheer volume of content you scroll past on any

00:00:04.900 --> 00:00:07.679
given Tuesday. Oh, it is an absolute avalanche.

00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:10.240
Right, exactly. Thousands of posts, articles,

00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.279
videos, all competing for just a fraction of

00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:14.779
your attention. You just swipe, swipe, swipe.

00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.199
You barely even register half of it. Yeah, you

00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:19.359
really don't. Now, imagine if I told you that

00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.879
one of the most profound cultural shifts in modern

00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.539
literature wasn't started by, you know, a massive

00:00:25.539 --> 00:00:28.000
media empire with millions of followers. Or a

00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.640
viral algorithm. Right, or an algorithm. Instead,

00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.420
it was sparked by a tiny, seemingly insignificant

00:00:33.420 --> 00:00:37.500
publication from the year 1915. And this publication

00:00:37.500 --> 00:00:40.990
had... fewer than 300 subscribers. 300. That

00:00:40.990 --> 00:00:44.070
is just, it's wild to think about. 300. I am

00:00:44.070 --> 00:00:46.609
so incredibly excited to welcome you to today's

00:00:46.609 --> 00:00:49.409
deep dive where we are pouring over a fascinating

00:00:49.409 --> 00:00:51.990
Wikipedia article on a little literary magazine

00:00:51.990 --> 00:00:55.850
called Others, a magazine of the new verse. It

00:00:55.850 --> 00:00:58.479
is such an incredible piece of history. It really

00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:01.500
is. And our mission today is simple but powerful.

00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:04.900
We are going to extract the core insights from

00:01:04.900 --> 00:01:08.219
our source material on how a small group of marginalized

00:01:08.219 --> 00:01:12.159
creators built a sanctuary for otherness that

00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.920
ended up completely rewriting the rules of the

00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.439
written word. A total paradigm shift. Exactly.

00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:20.739
It is a perfect study in how you can avoid information

00:01:20.739 --> 00:01:23.159
overload by focusing on high impact history.

00:01:23.379 --> 00:01:25.879
You don't need a million voices to change the

00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.900
world. Sometimes you just need. the right 300

00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:31.439
listening. It truly is a remarkable story. But

00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:34.379
to fully grasp what we're looking at today, it's

00:01:34.379 --> 00:01:37.019
essential to understand that this isn't just

00:01:37.019 --> 00:01:38.980
a story about poetry. No, not at all. If you

00:01:38.980 --> 00:01:40.659
look at the source text, it becomes immediately

00:01:40.659 --> 00:01:42.500
clear that this is a story about the American

00:01:42.500 --> 00:01:44.599
identity itself. I mean, we are talking about

00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.540
1915. It's the explosive rise of the industrial

00:01:47.540 --> 00:01:49.560
metropolis, the intense collision of different

00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:51.980
cultures, and the deliberate, forceful disruption

00:01:51.980 --> 00:01:54.840
of societal norms. It was a very volatile time.

00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:58.459
Very. We are looking at a crucible moment where

00:01:58.459 --> 00:02:00.719
the very definition of what it meant to be an

00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.879
artist, to be a woman, to be an immigrant, was

00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.099
actively being dismantled and reassembled right

00:02:06.099 --> 00:02:08.039
there on the printed page. Okay, let's unpack

00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.520
this. Because the origin of this magazine is

00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.479
where the whole vision really starts. We have

00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.969
to begin. with a man named Alfred Kreimberg.

00:02:15.150 --> 00:02:17.830
Right. According to our source, Kreimberg was

00:02:17.830 --> 00:02:20.430
completely mesmerized by another visionary of

00:02:20.430 --> 00:02:23.629
the time, the photographer Alfred Stieglitz.

00:02:23.830 --> 00:02:26.490
Yes, a massive figure in the art world. Huge.

00:02:26.930 --> 00:02:29.009
Stieglitz had this internationally renowned art

00:02:29.009 --> 00:02:32.110
gallery known as 291, and he produced a magazine

00:02:32.110 --> 00:02:34.699
of the same name. His whole objective was to

00:02:34.699 --> 00:02:37.379
publish original artwork by new unknown artists.

00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.500
To give them a real platform. Right. So Kreinberg

00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:43.000
looks at this and is just enthralled by the atmosphere.

00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.539
He sees experimental artists and photographers

00:02:45.539 --> 00:02:47.979
gathering together, exchanging bold ideas and

00:02:47.979 --> 00:02:50.400
actually earning praise for art that would have

00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.360
been completely ridiculed by the mainstream.

00:02:52.699 --> 00:02:55.300
Which was most of it, honestly. Yeah. So Kreinberg

00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:57.819
decides he wants to create that exact same kind

00:02:57.819 --> 00:03:01.259
of sanctuary, but exclusively for literary artists.

00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.840
But. He doesn't just immediately launch others,

00:03:05.000 --> 00:03:07.280
right? He actually has a pretty significant failure

00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.639
first. He does, yeah. Before others, Cranberg

00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:12.840
attempted to launch a magazine called The Glebe.

00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:15.479
And the name itself is very telling. A glebe

00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.460
literally means a field or a piece of cultivated

00:03:18.460 --> 00:03:21.080
land. Oh, I like that. Yeah, he envisioned this

00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.460
open, fertile field for new artists who lack

00:03:24.460 --> 00:03:26.180
the confidence or the mainstream opportunity

00:03:26.180 --> 00:03:29.240
to share their experimental work. He managed

00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.770
to secure financial backing from two men. Albert

00:03:31.770 --> 00:03:34.330
and Charles Boney. But the entire project collapsed

00:03:34.330 --> 00:03:36.629
relatively quickly. What caused it to fall apart

00:03:36.629 --> 00:03:39.169
so fast? Was it just a lack of readership? It

00:03:39.169 --> 00:03:41.469
actually collapsed due to a very specific ideological

00:03:41.469 --> 00:03:43.770
conflict behind the scenes. Oh, really? Yeah.

00:03:44.189 --> 00:03:46.469
Kremburg wanted to use this platform to champion

00:03:46.469 --> 00:03:49.590
American experimentalists. He was looking at

00:03:49.590 --> 00:03:51.949
the raw, homegrown talent right there in the

00:03:51.949 --> 00:03:55.050
city. He wanted local voices. Exactly. The Boney

00:03:55.050 --> 00:03:57.430
brothers, however, strongly preferred European

00:03:57.430 --> 00:04:00.060
art. They wanted to stick to the established

00:04:00.060 --> 00:04:02.939
traditional centers of culture across the Atlantic.

00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.520
So a classic old world versus new world debate.

00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.340
Precisely. But Kreimberg remained intensely loyal

00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:11.800
to his desire for raw, local experimentation.

00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:15.419
He absolutely refused to compromise his vision,

00:04:15.539 --> 00:04:18.519
so he resigned as editor and the glebe slowly

00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.079
fell apart without him. So Kreinberg walks away

00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.160
from his own project because he refuses to sell

00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.500
out his vision. I respect that, but that leaves

00:04:25.500 --> 00:04:28.540
him back at square one with no money. How does

00:04:28.540 --> 00:04:31.079
he actually get others off the ground a few years

00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.319
later? That's where a man named Walter Conrad

00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:36.740
Ahrensberg comes in. In July 1915, Ahrensberg

00:04:36.740 --> 00:04:39.500
provides the critical financial backing and others.

00:04:39.860 --> 00:04:42.139
A magazine of the new verse is officially born

00:04:42.139 --> 00:04:44.339
in New York City. And they kept the barrier to

00:04:44.339 --> 00:04:46.560
entry incredibly low, didn't they? Very low.

00:04:46.939 --> 00:04:49.259
each copy of the magazine was sold for just 20

00:04:49.259 --> 00:04:52.639
cents 20 cents a copy under 300 subscribers and

00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.980
it becomes the launch pad for a literary revolution

00:04:54.980 --> 00:04:57.680
the whole purpose was to create a space for unity

00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.019
among individuals who differed from the norms

00:05:00.019 --> 00:05:03.060
of society A literal home for the others. Yes.

00:05:03.300 --> 00:05:05.839
And they had the most incredible motto, which

00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.120
I just have to quote directly. The old expressions

00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:10.500
are with us always, and there are always others.

00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.600
It's such a bold line in the sand. What's fascinating

00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.560
here is the deep structural connection this magazine

00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:18.819
had to its physical and cultural environment.

00:05:19.579 --> 00:05:22.139
Others wasn't operating in a vacuum up in some

00:05:22.139 --> 00:05:25.379
ivory tower. No, it was very grounded. It proclaimed

00:05:25.379 --> 00:05:28.459
a strong, active affiliation with the local community

00:05:28.459 --> 00:05:32.040
of the Lower East Side in New York. At that time,

00:05:32.060 --> 00:05:34.860
you have to picture a neighborhood teeming with

00:05:34.860 --> 00:05:37.839
a mixed population of excluded immigrants, particularly

00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:41.259
Jewish immigrants. The poets of others deliberately

00:05:41.259 --> 00:05:44.139
wanted to project a positive image of Jewish

00:05:44.139 --> 00:05:47.110
immigration. They were actively subverting a

00:05:47.110 --> 00:05:49.810
very pervasive negative stereotype of the time.

00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:52.509
The article mentions this self -deprecating Jew

00:05:52.509 --> 00:05:54.730
stereotype that was being heavily perpetuated

00:05:54.730 --> 00:05:57.569
by what they call Euro -modernism and by rival

00:05:57.569 --> 00:05:59.689
publications like The Little Review. Yes. But

00:05:59.689 --> 00:06:01.110
for the listener who might not be a literary

00:06:01.110 --> 00:06:03.730
historian, what exactly do we mean when we talk

00:06:03.730 --> 00:06:06.189
about Euro -modernism in this context? Think

00:06:06.189 --> 00:06:08.910
of Euro -modernism as the old guard of the literary

00:06:08.910 --> 00:06:11.709
establishment. We are talking about rigid structures.

00:06:12.220 --> 00:06:15.839
rhyming couplets, very traditional, almost aristocratic

00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:19.199
subjects. Very stuffy. Very stuffy. It was an

00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.759
aesthetic that viewed any intrusion of foreignness

00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.540
as a literal contamination of traditional literature.

00:06:25.500 --> 00:06:28.100
Others, on the other hand, was pushing what we

00:06:28.100 --> 00:06:30.220
call free verse. Right, breaking all the rules.

00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.459
This basically threw the old rule book out the

00:06:32.459 --> 00:06:35.579
window. No rhyming, no traditional meter, just...

00:06:35.899 --> 00:06:39.019
raw, spoken rhythm that mirrored the chaotic

00:06:39.019 --> 00:06:41.600
energy of the city. I love that image. So while

00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.879
Euromodernism looked down on the immigrant population,

00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.300
others framed this very same community not as

00:06:47.300 --> 00:06:49.759
something to be ridiculed, but as the literal

00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.699
representation of social and intellectual progressivism.

00:06:53.370 --> 00:06:55.470
They saw the Lower East Side as the embodiment

00:06:55.470 --> 00:06:57.430
of the experimentation of the new. Which is why

00:06:57.430 --> 00:07:00.050
the critics went absolutely wild. Because Others

00:07:00.050 --> 00:07:02.970
was a house for this innovative free verse, critics

00:07:02.970 --> 00:07:05.110
labeled the magazine dangerous and offensive.

00:07:05.350 --> 00:07:07.350
Dangerous and offensive. It's almost funny to

00:07:07.350 --> 00:07:10.069
think of poetry being called dangerous and offensive

00:07:10.069 --> 00:07:12.610
just because it didn't rhyme and embrace new

00:07:12.610 --> 00:07:15.949
cultures. But they were tackling massive, heavy

00:07:15.949 --> 00:07:19.600
themes. They absolutely were. This tiny 20 cent

00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.220
magazine was diving headfirst into the realities

00:07:22.220 --> 00:07:24.720
of American life. They were writing about the

00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.660
grit of the industrial metropolis, the explosive

00:07:27.660 --> 00:07:30.959
dynamics of machine age labor and the. absolute

00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:34.019
catastrophe of global warfare. Very heavy, very

00:07:34.019 --> 00:07:36.379
real issues. But as they did this, the source

00:07:36.379 --> 00:07:38.800
material notes that the magazine acquired a reputation

00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.519
for individualism, but also a very specific image

00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.860
of queerness. Now, we are talking about the 1910s.

00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:47.399
I imagine that word carried a very different

00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.279
weight and meaning back then than it does today.

00:07:49.420 --> 00:07:51.759
What exactly were critics accusing them of? That

00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.939
is a crucial distinction to make for anyone listening

00:07:53.939 --> 00:07:56.500
today. In this specific literary environment

00:07:56.500 --> 00:08:00.000
in the 1910s, queerness was not strictly... or

00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:02.920
entirely associated with homosexuality. It was

00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:04.839
used as a catch -all term by the establishment

00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:07.800
to describe radical innovation and the breaking

00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.279
free of societal norms. So just anything outside

00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:13.439
the box. Exactly. It meant a total rejection

00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:17.019
of conventional styles of poetry, coupled with

00:08:17.019 --> 00:08:20.439
a fierce resistance to sexual modesty. If you

00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.379
didn't conform to the polite, traditional way

00:08:22.379 --> 00:08:24.800
of living and writing, your work was labeled

00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.519
queer. And the backlash they faced from the establishment

00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.399
was relentless. rival poetry magazines like Poetry

00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.480
and the Little Magazine openly criticized this

00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:36.539
new verse style. They actually called the entire

00:08:36.539 --> 00:08:39.200
accomplishment of others a fluke. It's completely

00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.580
dismissive. Completely. But the gendered insults

00:08:41.580 --> 00:08:43.879
are what really stand out to me. The male poets

00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.700
who contributed to others were mocked by critics

00:08:46.700 --> 00:08:49.779
as being weak and effeminate. Right. So essentially,

00:08:49.899 --> 00:08:52.360
the 1915 version of internet trolls were just

00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.759
calling these guys soft for writing free verse

00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.620
instead of traditional sonnets. Meanwhile, the

00:08:57.620 --> 00:08:59.399
women writers who published there were portrayed

00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.960
as supermodern Sappho. Which was a direct accusation

00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.879
of being female homosexuals, meant entirely to

00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.769
dismiss and demean their work. The critics couldn't

00:09:08.769 --> 00:09:10.570
attack the underlying intellect of the poetry,

00:09:10.789 --> 00:09:13.129
so they attacked the perceived masculinity or

00:09:13.129 --> 00:09:15.490
femininity of the poets themselves. That is so

00:09:15.490 --> 00:09:17.629
frustrating, but unfortunately not surprising.

00:09:18.129 --> 00:09:21.529
No, it's a very common tactic. Yet, despite this

00:09:21.529 --> 00:09:24.230
barrage of criticism from traditional readers

00:09:24.230 --> 00:09:26.690
and rival editors, the work ultimately spoke

00:09:26.690 --> 00:09:29.429
for itself. Reviewers like H .L. Mencken and

00:09:29.429 --> 00:09:31.990
J .B. Kerfoot actually stepped up to defend them.

00:09:32.070 --> 00:09:34.850
They saw what was really happening. Yes, they

00:09:34.850 --> 00:09:37.289
recognized and acknowledged this. free verse,

00:09:37.490 --> 00:09:40.690
not as a dangerous contamination, but as a movement

00:09:40.690 --> 00:09:43.570
that was fundamentally reawakening American individualism.

00:09:43.929 --> 00:09:46.690
And when you look at the roster of talent they

00:09:46.690 --> 00:09:49.330
managed to cram into this tiny publication, it

00:09:49.330 --> 00:09:52.470
is just staggering. We are talking about the

00:09:52.470 --> 00:09:55.070
undisputed heavy hitters of modern literature.

00:09:55.190 --> 00:09:57.409
Oh, the list is incredible. Ezra Pound, T .S.

00:09:57.409 --> 00:10:00.090
Eliot, Wallace Stevens and Fenton Johnson, who

00:10:00.090 --> 00:10:02.990
the article explicitly notes was the only African

00:10:02.990 --> 00:10:04.730
-American published in the magazine at the time.

00:10:04.769 --> 00:10:06.870
A huge milestone. Here's where it gets really

00:10:06.870 --> 00:10:08.809
interesting. I want to talk about the women who

00:10:08.809 --> 00:10:11.889
defined the bold, unapologetic image of others,

00:10:12.110 --> 00:10:16.620
specifically. Mina Loy. In 1915, she publishes

00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:18.940
her love songs in the magazine. This is not your

00:10:18.940 --> 00:10:21.960
standard polite romantic poetry. Not at all.

00:10:22.330 --> 00:10:25.110
To understand the shockwave Mina Loy caused,

00:10:25.289 --> 00:10:28.169
you have to remember the strict Victorian conventions

00:10:28.169 --> 00:10:30.950
that still held a massive grip on society. Right,

00:10:30.970 --> 00:10:33.190
the separate spheres. Exactly. The Victorian

00:10:33.190 --> 00:10:36.610
era dictated very rigid gender norms. Men operated

00:10:36.610 --> 00:10:39.350
in the public sphere of business and ideas, while

00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:41.590
women were strictly confined to the private sphere

00:10:41.590 --> 00:10:45.529
of the home, purity, and quiet domesticity. Women

00:10:45.529 --> 00:10:47.929
were certainly not supposed to have, let alone

00:10:47.929 --> 00:10:51.080
express, public sexual desires. Never. And then

00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:53.399
Mina Loy kicks the door down. Her love songs

00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.080
featured incredibly graphic writing, depicting

00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.679
scenes of explicit sex and grotesque sexuality.

00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:01.360
She was completely mocking the polite romantic

00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.279
conventions of Victorian writing. Loy is a perfect

00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:06.360
example of the symbiotic relationship between

00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.600
these creators and the Others platform. Loy needed

00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:11.139
Others as an uncensored space to perpetuate her

00:11:11.139 --> 00:11:13.960
unorthodox values, and Others heavily depended

00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.539
on Loy to establish its image of absolute boldness.

00:11:16.620 --> 00:11:19.879
They fed off each other. They did. By representing

00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:23.259
herself as a sexual woman who was deeply skeptical

00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:26.500
of traditional romance, she effectively inverted

00:11:26.500 --> 00:11:30.600
those rigid Victorian gender norms. Her aggressive

00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.840
articulation of female fantasies completely rejected

00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.080
the societal denial of female sexuality. It must

00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.309
have been so scandalous. It was. And crucially,

00:11:40.429 --> 00:11:43.450
unlike the mainstream magazines, Others was willing

00:11:43.450 --> 00:11:46.470
to publish her longer works exactly as she wrote

00:11:46.470 --> 00:11:49.570
them, without imposing format standards or censoring

00:11:49.570 --> 00:11:52.230
her content to protect the delicate sensibilities

00:11:52.230 --> 00:11:55.210
of the reader. So you have Mina Loy blowing up

00:11:55.210 --> 00:11:58.190
Victorian conventions with raw, explicit sexuality.

00:11:58.750 --> 00:12:00.710
But then, on the other hand, you have Marianne

00:12:00.710 --> 00:12:02.710
Moore. And what strikes me about Moore is how

00:12:02.710 --> 00:12:04.330
she approached this rebellion so differently.

00:12:04.529 --> 00:12:06.429
Very differently. She departs from those modern

00:12:06.429 --> 00:12:08.470
sexual conventions entirely. She wasn't using

00:12:08.470 --> 00:12:10.830
shock value in the same way. Yes. Moore's innovation

00:12:10.830 --> 00:12:13.750
was entirely structural and intellectual. Instead

00:12:13.750 --> 00:12:15.889
of being sexually provocative to challenge gender

00:12:15.889 --> 00:12:18.470
norms, she inclined to manipulate the very use

00:12:18.470 --> 00:12:20.929
of grammar itself. Grammar is a tool of rebellion.

00:12:21.070 --> 00:12:23.830
I love that. It's brilliant. She used language

00:12:23.830 --> 00:12:26.129
to equalize the positions of male and female

00:12:26.129 --> 00:12:29.669
subjects and objects within her sentences. She

00:12:29.669 --> 00:12:32.009
was essentially transforming language to free

00:12:32.009 --> 00:12:33.870
herself from the constraints of sexual difference,

00:12:34.110 --> 00:12:36.230
pushing the idea that people should be judged

00:12:36.230 --> 00:12:39.149
on the basis of their abilities rather than adhering

00:12:39.149 --> 00:12:42.649
to any ideas of inherent cultural or gender superiority.

00:12:42.990 --> 00:12:45.570
The imagery she used was so distinctive too.

00:12:45.690 --> 00:12:48.860
The article points out that more frequently felt

00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:51.779
out of place in society, and she would recurrently

00:12:51.779 --> 00:12:54.299
use animals in her poetry to reflect her concern

00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:56.480
for literature and nature. Right, the animal

00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:59.200
motifs. Like in her poem, Critics and Connoisseurs,

00:12:59.379 --> 00:13:02.159
she uses the image of a black swan to express

00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.179
this profound theme of independence. Her style

00:13:05.179 --> 00:13:07.220
wasn't dangerous and provocative like Loy's,

00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.419
but both of their names are forever linked in

00:13:09.419 --> 00:13:12.000
others because they shared this incredible freshness,

00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.340
novelty, and total break from the old guard.

00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.559
And that break from tradition took many physical

00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.600
forms on the page. If we connect this to the

00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:23.000
bigger picture, we have to look at William Carlos

00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.000
Williams. He was one of the primary contributors

00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.840
to the magazine and a massive enthusiast for

00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:30.139
testing the boundaries of what poetry could look

00:13:30.139 --> 00:13:32.820
like. His contribution to poetic innovation is

00:13:32.820 --> 00:13:34.720
one of my favorite takeaways from this whole

00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.580
deep dive. William Carlos Williams is the one

00:13:37.580 --> 00:13:39.879
who introduced the elimination of capital letters

00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.059
at the beginning of poetic lines. A huge shift.

00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.779
Now, to us today, writing without capital letters

00:13:45.779 --> 00:13:48.299
just looks like a casual text message. But back

00:13:48.299 --> 00:13:50.740
then, capitalizing the start of every single

00:13:50.740 --> 00:13:53.539
line was the ultimate unquestionable sign of

00:13:53.539 --> 00:13:56.600
high art it was the standard by dropping to lowercase

00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:59.600
williams was basically saying poetry isn't just

00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.379
for the elite it's the language of the everyday

00:14:02.379 --> 00:14:04.919
person on the street it was a visual rebellion

00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.580
right there on the page and his own background

00:14:07.580 --> 00:14:09.799
played a huge role in his perspective didn't

00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.980
it it absolutely did williams had a mixed ancestry

00:14:12.980 --> 00:14:15.980
of puerto rican and english descent which furthered

00:14:15.980 --> 00:14:18.320
his own personal affiliation with that core concept

00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.110
of otherness He understood what it meant to be

00:14:21.110 --> 00:14:23.570
outside the mainstream. He did. He claimed that

00:14:23.570 --> 00:14:27.070
America was his only possible home. Living in

00:14:27.070 --> 00:14:29.850
the area, he witnessed firsthand the openness

00:14:29.850 --> 00:14:32.149
to the immigrant population that was radically

00:14:32.149 --> 00:14:34.269
changing the demographic landscape of the country.

00:14:34.690 --> 00:14:37.289
And unlike the traditionalists who feared it,

00:14:37.409 --> 00:14:39.850
he saw incredible potential there. So he embraced

00:14:39.850 --> 00:14:42.570
it. Yes. He believed that Jewish immigration

00:14:42.570 --> 00:14:45.289
and the overall increase of racial blending were

00:14:45.289 --> 00:14:47.409
going to directly affect and elevate American

00:14:47.409 --> 00:14:51.500
poetry. He saw the demographic shift as the very

00:14:51.500 --> 00:14:54.659
engine of literary progress. This forward thinking

00:14:54.659 --> 00:14:58.139
mentality really came to a head in 1916. The

00:14:58.139 --> 00:15:00.519
magazine releases a special issue called A Woman's

00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.240
Number, which was edited entirely by Helen Hoyt.

00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.299
This was a massive moment. The purpose of A Woman's

00:15:06.299 --> 00:15:08.360
Number was groundbreaking for the era. Hoyt's

00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.139
goal was to establish a brand new relationship

00:15:10.139 --> 00:15:12.340
between the inner woman and the outside world.

00:15:12.539 --> 00:15:14.820
She wanted to portray a hidden femininity that

00:15:14.820 --> 00:15:16.500
could be translated through the expression of

00:15:16.500 --> 00:15:20.179
poetry, pushing the radical, unifying idea that

00:15:20.179 --> 00:15:23.200
art is surely sexless. It provided a space for

00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.919
self -expression, exploring the private prospect

00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.460
of female experiences and attitudes, largely

00:15:28.460 --> 00:15:31.440
using free verse as an act of emancipation from

00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.200
the deeply repressive sexuality of the decade.

00:15:34.379 --> 00:15:36.460
And the examples from the text are so powerful.

00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:40.279
I want you, the listener, to really imagine opening

00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:43.399
a magazine in 1916 and reading this. The issue

00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.019
featured Hoyt's own poem called To a Pregnant

00:15:46.019 --> 00:15:49.139
Woman, where she writes, So absolutely to command,

00:15:49.340 --> 00:15:51.899
to serve, to keep. knowing you hold the beating

00:15:51.899 --> 00:15:53.899
life of the beloved in the depths of your life.

00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.659
It's so visceral. It completely lays bare the

00:15:56.659 --> 00:15:58.639
intimate realities, the physical weight, and

00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.799
the control of a woman's own body. It wasn't

00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.440
hidden behind polite metaphor. And you also had

00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:05.440
poets like H .G. writing boldly about female

00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.820
sexuality, using the concept of evening as a

00:16:07.820 --> 00:16:09.980
symbol of sensualism to convey bodily desires.

00:16:10.419 --> 00:16:12.200
Naturally, the traditional critics condemned

00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:14.700
the issue for its controversial themes. They

00:16:14.700 --> 00:16:18.580
did. The critical pushback was immense. But the

00:16:18.580 --> 00:16:20.519
external critics weren't the only threat to the

00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.960
magazine. Unfortunately, Others was constantly

00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.879
battling for its own internal survival. Wait,

00:16:26.940 --> 00:16:29.259
so they have this massive artistic success with

00:16:29.259 --> 00:16:32.240
A Woman's Number in 1916, but behind the scenes

00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:34.580
things are falling apart. How does it go from

00:16:34.580 --> 00:16:38.240
this creative peak to being on the verge of collapse?

00:16:38.740 --> 00:16:41.840
It ultimately came down to the classic struggle

00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.519
of financing a revolution. It always comes down

00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:47.759
to the money. Always. By late 1916, they were

00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:49.899
running out of money, and the internal dynamics

00:16:49.899 --> 00:16:52.700
were fraying. Kreinberg needed new partnerships

00:16:52.700 --> 00:16:55.080
and financial support just to keep the printing

00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.559
presses running. So he brings in William Carlos

00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.080
Williams to help co -edit, along with a few others

00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.940
like F .S. Flint and Maxwell Bodenheim. Okay,

00:17:01.940 --> 00:17:03.820
bringing in some fresh energy. But instead of

00:17:03.820 --> 00:17:06.059
saving the original vision, the relationships

00:17:06.059 --> 00:17:09.019
eventually soured. Williams fiercely rejected

00:17:09.019 --> 00:17:11.440
Kreinberg's ideas for further expanding the magazine,

00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:13.779
believing it was losing its sharp experimental

00:17:13.779 --> 00:17:17.000
edge. Which leads to the most explosive and honestly

00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:19.680
kind of hilarious ending to a publication I've

00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:23.160
ever heard of. In 1919, William Carlos Williams

00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.700
essentially takes the reins for the final issue

00:17:25.700 --> 00:17:28.400
and officially puts a stop to the magazine. He

00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:30.559
shuts it down. But he doesn't just quietly shut

00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:32.619
the doors and send a polite thank you note to

00:17:32.619 --> 00:17:35.440
the subscribers. He includes an eight page section

00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.640
at the very end entitled Belly Music. And it

00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.789
is an. absolute rant. Oh, he let them have it.

00:17:41.869 --> 00:17:44.789
He uses these final pages to tear into the entire

00:17:44.789 --> 00:17:48.109
landscape of American poetry criticism, famously

00:17:48.109 --> 00:17:51.650
describing it as sophomoric, puling, and nonsensical.

00:17:51.769 --> 00:17:54.430
What a mic drop. He killed the magazine but went

00:17:54.430 --> 00:17:56.750
out swinging at the establishment. He certainly

00:17:56.750 --> 00:17:59.190
made sure they had the last word. But in that

00:17:59.190 --> 00:18:01.970
same rant, he also assured the public that the

00:18:01.970 --> 00:18:04.890
end of others was only a pretext for another

00:18:04.890 --> 00:18:07.569
new beginning. And history proved him right.

00:18:07.950 --> 00:18:10.890
It didn't just end there. No, others didn't simply

00:18:10.890 --> 00:18:13.450
disappear without a trace. The community they

00:18:13.450 --> 00:18:15.250
built survived the death of the physical magazine.

00:18:15.650 --> 00:18:17.609
The writers who had contributed to the others

00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:20.230
continued to work together, frequently reviewing

00:18:20.230 --> 00:18:22.269
each other's new work and championing the free

00:18:22.269 --> 00:18:24.869
verse movement. They kept the spirit alive. They

00:18:24.869 --> 00:18:27.549
did. And structurally, the legacy was preserved

00:18:27.549 --> 00:18:30.579
when Scofield Thayer The co -publisher and co

00:18:30.579 --> 00:18:33.039
-editor of a major, well -funded publication

00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:36.039
called The Dial asked many of the other's writers

00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:39.299
to bring their work to his magazine. Ultimately,

00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:42.700
The Dial carried on the exact poetic tone and

00:18:42.700 --> 00:18:45.200
experimental spirit that others had established.

00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:48.650
So what does this all mean? We started by looking

00:18:48.650 --> 00:18:51.450
at a tiny publication from 1915. And what we

00:18:51.450 --> 00:18:55.069
found is an almost impossible paradox. A magazine

00:18:55.069 --> 00:18:58.329
with a maximum of 300 subscribers printed on

00:18:58.329 --> 00:19:01.190
cheap paper and sold for 20 cents a copy managed

00:19:01.190 --> 00:19:03.829
to become the launching pad for American modernism.

00:19:03.890 --> 00:19:06.470
It's an incredible legacy. It provided an uncensored

00:19:06.470 --> 00:19:08.569
platform that empowered women to reclaim their

00:19:08.569 --> 00:19:10.589
private spaces and their physical bodies from

00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:13.650
Victorian standards. It actively celebrated excluded

00:19:13.650 --> 00:19:15.730
immigrants and racial blending as the literal

00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:18.500
future of art. It completely changed the trajectory

00:19:18.500 --> 00:19:20.900
of American literature. This raises an important

00:19:20.900 --> 00:19:23.460
question about how we value knowledge and where

00:19:23.460 --> 00:19:26.119
we look for community. The story of others proves

00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:28.559
that true innovation rarely comes from the well

00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:30.440
-funded center of the establishment. It never

00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.779
does. It happens on the fringes. It happens when

00:19:32.779 --> 00:19:35.420
marginalized groups create safe, dedicated spaces

00:19:35.420 --> 00:19:38.119
where they are allowed to experiment, to fail,

00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:40.859
and to be viewed as dangerous by the old guard.

00:19:41.470 --> 00:19:44.289
They didn't need mass societal approval. They

00:19:44.289 --> 00:19:46.910
just needed a cultivated space to foster their

00:19:46.910 --> 00:19:48.690
otherness. And that leaves us with a lingering

00:19:48.690 --> 00:19:50.970
thought for you to explore on your own. We live

00:19:50.970 --> 00:19:53.630
in an era obsessed with scale. We measure our

00:19:53.630 --> 00:19:56.690
impact in millions of views, algorithmic virality,

00:19:56.690 --> 00:19:58.789
and global trending topics. We want everything

00:19:58.789 --> 00:20:01.970
to be massive immediately. Exactly. But if a

00:20:01.970 --> 00:20:04.789
magazine called Others was able to spark a permanent

00:20:04.789 --> 00:20:07.609
cultural and literary revolution with just 300

00:20:07.609 --> 00:20:10.730
subscribers and 20 cent paper copies in 1915,

00:20:10.990 --> 00:20:13.750
what defines the actual critical mass needed

00:20:13.750 --> 00:20:16.519
to change the world today? In our modern era

00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.299
of endless digital noise, is it possible that

00:20:19.299 --> 00:20:22.160
true, lasting artistic rebellion still only requires

00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:25.400
an audience of 300 highly dedicated others? Thank

00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.119
you so much for taking this deep dive with us

00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.059
today. Keep looking for those hidden pieces of

00:20:29.059 --> 00:20:31.240
history, and we will see you next time.
