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Welcome to the Deep Dive. We're really glad you

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could join us today. I want you to start by picturing

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a web in your mind. Oh, yeah. Like a really messy,

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tangled one. Exactly. A massive, tangled web

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of history that stretches across completely different

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eras and geographies. At one absolute edge of

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this web, you have a highly controversial Russian

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classical ballet premiering in Paris in 1913.

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Right. And at another edge, you have this smoky,

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incredibly rhythmic evolution of Afro -Cuban

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jazz happening in Los Angeles in the 1960s. Two

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very different worlds. Completely different.

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And then at a totally different corner of this

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web, you have this skyrocketing career of a Mexican

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pop superstar. It sounds like a stretch, honestly.

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It really does. How on earth do these three entirely

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distinct worlds connect? Well, today we're going

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to show you that they are all tied together by

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a single four -minute piece of music. It really

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is an incredible puzzle to piece together. We

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are looking today at a stack of notes and a fascinating

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Wikipedia article detailing a 1965 composition

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called Morning. It was written by... the American

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pianist, composer, and arranger Claire Fisher.

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And a song's journey, especially this one, often

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tells us vastly more about cultural cross -pollination

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than a standard history book ever could. We tend

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to think of songs as static things on a record,

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but music is a living, breathing entity. It is,

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and when we pulled this source material, I honestly

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couldn't stop reading. The sheer domino effect

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of this one song is staggering. Because our mission

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for this deep dive is to unpack the fascinating

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life cycle of a song. We're going to show you

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how a single melody can mutate across decades,

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across genres, and across entirely different

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languages. It's a story of homage, of accidental

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rivalry, and, well, of incredible endurance.

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Right, and it's a testament to the fact that

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when a composer puts ink to paper, they might

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have a very specific vision for their work. But

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as the source material brilliantly illustrates,

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once that music enters the atmosphere, it belongs

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to the musicians who play it and the audiences

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who hear it. It really takes on a life of its

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own. Let's set the scene and look at the origin

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point. The year is 1965. Claire Fisher releases

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an LP called Manteca. Produced by Richard Bach.

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Yes, produced by Richard Bach and released on

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the Pacific Jazz label. And right there on this

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album is our focal point, the track Morning.

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The song clocks in at exactly four minutes and

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five seconds long. And those four minutes and

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five seconds are about to make an incredible

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mark on music history. They are. But to really

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understand the impact of that specific album,

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Manteca. Yeah. You have to understand where Fisher

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was coming from creatively at that exact moment

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in the mid -60s. Okay, set that up for us. Well,

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for the previous three years, he had been deeply,

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almost exclusively exploring Brazilian music.

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Bossa Nova, samba, that was his entire musical

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world. So Manteca represented a massive, intentional

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musical shift. It was his very first recording

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conceived entirely in the Afro -Cuban idiom.

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So we have this massive shift into Afro -Cuban

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sounds. Let's unpack this musically for a second.

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If you aren't a jazz theorist, do not worry.

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We're going to keep this totally accessible for

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you. Very accessible. The Wikipedia source notes

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that Morning is fundamentally a guajira or Afro

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-Cuban jazz track. For a little context, a guajira

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is a slower, deeply rhythmic Cuban musical style

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that traditionally has a very acoustic, rural

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feel to it. Right. It's very grounded. Exactly.

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And this track was Fisher's first and remains

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his most famous contribution to the cha -cha

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-cha genre, which was a relatively newly evolved

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dance style at the time. That's a great way to

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frame it. And as a foundation for this foray

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into Afro -Cuban rhythms, Fisher uses a very

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traditional, comfortable architecture for the

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song. Exactly. The song uses a standard A -A

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-B -A structure. Think of that like a familiar

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floor plan for a house. Yeah. You have your main

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theme, the A section, you repeat it. Then you

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walk into a new room, which is the contrasting

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B section or the bridge. And then you go back

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to the main theme, the final A. The whole cycle

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is 32 measures in length. And a measure or a

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bar is just the basic unit of time in music,

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like a sentence in a paragraph. Right. So this

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32 -sentence floor plan is tight. It is standard.

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It is exactly what audiences and jazz musicians

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of the era would expect to hear and play over.

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It gives the listener a sense of security. You

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know where the beat is. You know where the melody

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is going. You are just grooving along to this

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beautiful cha -cha -cha. But here's where it

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gets really interesting. Because in that debut

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1965 recording, Fisher decides to take a massive

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musical detour that absolutely nobody would have

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seen coming. Nobody. We're grooving along and

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we're halfway through a trombone solo by a musician

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named Gil Falco. According to that standard 32

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measure floor plan we just talked about. This

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is the exact moment the band is supposed to proceed

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to the bridge. But they don't. They don't. Instead,

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mourning completely morphs. The source notes

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it turns into a 16 -bar development of a two

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-measure motif taken from spring rounds. Let's

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pause and translate that. For those who aren't

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jazz musicians, a motif is just a short, catchy

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musical idea. Think of the famous four notes

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at the start of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, that

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dun -dun -dun -dun plot. Perfect example. So

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Fisher takes a tiny two measure musical idea

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from a completely different piece of music and

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spins it out into a whole new extended 16 bar

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section of his jazz song. And Spring Rounds,

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for those who might not know, is the fourth section

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of Igor Stravinsky's classical masterpiece, The

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Rite of Spring. Yes. That is the controversial

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1913 Russian ballet you mentioned at the start

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of our deep dive today. The very same. He drops

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a century -old Russian classical motif right

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into the middle of a 1960s Latin jazz cha -cha

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-cha. It's such a wild juxtaposition. What's

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fascinating here is the sheer audacity of that

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choice, but also the deep respect behind it.

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You have to remember, the Rite of Spring literally

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caused riots in the theater when it premiered

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in Paris because it was so avant -garde and rhythmically

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jarring. People were furious. They were throwing

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things. And Stravinsky was one of Fischer's primary

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musical influences. So this detour wasn't a cheap

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gimmick. It was an unashamed homage. Fischer

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is seamlessly blending early 20th century classical

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motifs with the syncopated driving rhythms of

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19... 1960s Latin jazz. That's incredible. It

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really shows a composer who absolutely refuses

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to see walls between genres. To him, great music

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is great music, whether it was written for a

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Parisian ballet stage or an American jazz club.

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He really is brilliant. But as we move forward

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in the timeline, the story of mourning. gets

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incredibly messy and it gets messy specifically

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when we start talking about the words oh the

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lyrics yeah we transition from this tight beautifully

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executed classical jazz fusion into an absolute

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labyrinth of lyrics the historical record definitely

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gets very murky here very as you read through

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the wikipedia source you actually catch a really

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funny contradiction right there on the page The

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article states that Fisher's own lyrics for Morning

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were not unveiled until 1980 or 1981. Okay. This

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was with a vocal group he put together called

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2 Plus 2, which was meant to supplement his Latin

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jazz combo, Salsa Picante. So you read that and

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think, okay, the official lyrics debuted in 1980.

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But if you scroll just a bit further down to

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the list of selected recordings in the very same

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article, it lists a 1979 album by a vocalist

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named Loras Alexandria called A Woman Knows.

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And the notes explicitly state that this 1979

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recording debuted his lyrics. It's a perfect

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example of how jazz history is so often recorded

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on the fly. It's full of messy, overlapping timelines

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like this. And there's a good reason for it.

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Think about the reality of the 1970s jazz scene.

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It was chaos. Absolute chaos. You had musicians

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constantly touring, playing live gigs in small

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clubs where things might be tested out years

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before they hit a studio. You had bootleg recordings,

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independent labels with delayed release schedules,

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and session musicians bouncing between projects.

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Right, trying to piece it together. together

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retroactively is a nightmare exactly session

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dates constantly get confused with actual release

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dates different musicians claim first based on

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a live performance versus a studio cut it reminds

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you that this music was happening in real time

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often moving way faster than the people trying

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to document it that makes perfect sense But that

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little chronological contradiction in the late

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70s is absolutely nothing compared to the massive

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plot twist that had already happened a decade

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earlier. Oh, boy. Because long before Fisher

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could properly establish his own English or Spanish

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lyrics for his own song, an absolute powerhouse

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of a singer comes into the picture. And this

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changes the trajectory of the song forever. It

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does. In 1969, a young Mexican singer released

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his eponymous debut LP. His name was Jose Jose.

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And right there on his debut album, he recorded

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a cover of Claire Fisher's Morning. Except it

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wasn't called Morning anymore. Nope. Jose released

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it under the title Una Mañana, which translates

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to One Morning. And he didn't use Fisher's lyrics.

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He used entirely different Spanish lyrics written

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by a man named Joaquin Prieto. You really have

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to understand the magnitude of what happens next

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to grasp the importance of this moment. Jose

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didn't just become popular in Mexico. He became

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a massive, undeniable, once -in -a -generation

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superstar across the entire Spanish -speaking

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world. A total icon. Yeah, he was eventually

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known as El Príncipe de la Canción, the Prince

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of Song. His voice was ubiquitous. It was playing

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in every household, on every radio station. And

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because his star shined so incredibly brightly,

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his debut album was heard. Which means his version

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of the song became the definitive version for

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the public. That's the crazy part. For millions

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of people, Una Mañana wasn't a Claire Fisher

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jazz standard that had been given new lyrics.

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It was simply a beloved Jose. Jose pop anthem

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that happened to be written by Joaquin Prieto.

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The sheer magnitude of Jose Jose stardom all

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but guaranteed that any official Spanish language

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version Fisher tried to supply later was doomed

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to obscurity. The public had already decided

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what the song was and who it belonged to. Now

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let me play devil's advocate here for a second.

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The source notes that Fisher was still lamenting

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this exact situation almost 30 years later. He

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was deeply frustrated. But from a purely business

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standpoint didn't Jose Jose's massive success

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ultimately benefit fisher through songwriting

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royalties i mean yes right because a massive

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global pop hit has to pay the bills was it really

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a tragedy for him or was it just a hit to his

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ego It's a fantastic question. Financially, yes.

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Having a melody you compose turn into a mega

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hit is a windfall. Fisher absolutely received

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composer credits and the royalties that come

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with that. But this highlights a deeply human

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element in the music industry, the frustration

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of losing control of your artistic identity.

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Yeah, sure. Fischer was a meticulous jazz composer

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who wove Stravinsky into his cha -cha -chas.

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He had a very specific, carefully crafted vision

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for his art. To watch that art get hijacked,

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simplified into a pop anthem, and completely

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culturally redefined by someone else's lyrics,

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that stings. It really does. The cultural momentum

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of Jose Jose was a tidal wave Fischer simply

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couldn't swim against no matter how much money

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it made him. You really have to feel for the

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guy when you frame it like that. Yeah. You write

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this beautiful piece of music. Someone else writes

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lyrics to it, becomes a global icon, and your

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own official vision gets permanently sidelined.

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It's tough. But despite that Spanish language

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heartbreak, the story is far from over. Because

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Fisher's original English lyrics eventually did

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gain real traction in the jazz world. Mourning

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became an undeniable standard, a true test for

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serious vocalists. It gained an incredible amount

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of prestige. It's not an easy song to sing well,

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which is why it attracted so much top -tier talent.

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Just look at the timeline of vocalists who cackled

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it to prove their chops. You have Lisa Rich in

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1983. You have Meredith D 'Ambrosio in 1989.

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Jeannie Bryson sang Fisher's lyrics on a live

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concert video in Warsaw in 1991. Nice. The legendary

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Diane Reeves recorded it in 1998 on a brilliant

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album called Afro -Cuban Fantasy. And even as

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recently as 2014, Rosianna Vitro featured it

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on her album Clarity, music of Claire Fisher.

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And that is just the vocalists singing the English

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lyrics. If we shift gears and look at the sheer

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volume and caliber of musicians who recorded

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instrumental versions of this track, it reads

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like a who's who of jazz history. The list is

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astonishing. Talk us through some of those instrumental

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heavyweights and what they brought to the table.

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Well, just a year after the original 1965 release,

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Sergio Mendez records it on his album The Great

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Arrival in 1966. And what's cool is that Fisher

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actually arranged and conducted the orchestra

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for that specific version. Oh, that's awesome.

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Yeah. That same year, the great vibraphonist

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Cal Jader records it on his album Soulburst.

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Now that recording is special because it features

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a young Chick Corea on piano. Oh, wow. Exactly.

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Adding Correa changes the entire texture of the

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track. His piano work brings this sharp, percussive,

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incredibly innovative energy to the rhythm section.

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Having Chick Corea on your track in 1966 is quite

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the feather in your cap. Absolutely. Then you

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jump forward to 1979 and you have jazz trumpet

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legend Donald Byrd recording it. And on that

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track, the entire song features Claire Fisher

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himself ripping an electric piano solo. He had

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to get in there. He did. And of course, we can't

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talk about Latin. jazz without mentioning the

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king himself, Tito Puente. Puente recorded live

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at the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1980 and then

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again on his 1986 album, Sensation. And Puente's

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live version brings a completely different high

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-octane, explosive energy compared to Fisher's

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more controlled studio cut. The song just refuses

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to sit still. It travels from artist to artist,

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absorbing a little bit of their unique style

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and instrumentation each time. And it even crossed

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entirely out of the jazz and pop spheres and

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into rock music. Oh, wait. In 1998, and then

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again in a massive MTV unplugged session released

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in 2005, the Mexican alternative rock band Café

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Tacba clivered the song. And of course, they

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recorded it as Una Mañana using the Jose Jose

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lyrics. Which perfectly proves our earlier point.

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It shows how deeply entrenched those Joaquin

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Prieto lyrics had become in Mexican culture.

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A 90s alternative rock band is covering it because

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it's part of their musical DNA. It was passed

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down to them from the Jose Jose era. Exactly.

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They aren't covering a 1965 Claire Fisher jazz

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tune. They are covering a Mexican cultural touchstone.

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It is wild to think about that chain of events.

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But I love that this story actually has an emotional

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resolution for the Fisher family. It takes a

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long time, but it finally happens. It does. It

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brings the whole journey full circle right near

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the very end of Claire Fisher's life. In 2012,

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an album called Ah! and Sometimes Instruments

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was released. This wasn't just any vocal group.

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This was the Claire Fisher Voices. And the group

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was directed by the composer's own son, Brent

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Fisher. That is a true, beautiful family legacy

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project. Precisely. And on this 2012 album, they

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finally introduced and recorded the officially

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approved adaptations of Fisher's original lyrics.

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They recorded the official Spanish version called

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Una Mañana and an official Portuguese version

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called Manhá. Amazing. After nearly 50 years

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of watching his song run wild around the world,

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wearing everyone else's clothes, so to speak,

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Fisher's family finally put his original official

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vision down on the record. So what does this

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all mean? We started with a 32 -measure cha -cha

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-cha standard recorded on a Pacific jazz label

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in 1965. And through this incredible timeline,

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we watched it become a canvas for classical Stravinsky

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homages. We watched it become the source of a

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30 -year grudge because of a Mexican pop star's

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monumental success. And we watched it become

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a multi -generational, multilingual standard

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played by everyone from Chick Corea to an alternative

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rock band like Cafe Takspa. But then you release

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it. Right. Once you put an idea, a project, or

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a piece of art out into the world, it takes on

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a life entirely its own. It is shaped by the

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people who interact with it. It is molded by

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the cultural forces of the time. It's like launching

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a ship. You build the hull, you set the sails,

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but the ocean ultimately decides where it goes.

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Beautifully said. The art becomes a true collaboration

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between the creator and the culture. Jose didn't

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set out to ruin Claire Fisher's plans. He just

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found a melody that spoke to his soul and made

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it his own. And in doing so, he introduced that

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melody to millions of people who might never

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have bought a Latin jazz LP in their lives. It

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leaves you with a really fascinating question.

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I want you to mull this over as you go about

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your day. We've talked a lot about the frustrations

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of losing control of a song in the 1960s and

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70s. But think about the future of music today.

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It's a whole new ballgame. It is. With artificial

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intelligence and TikTok trends allowing fans

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to remix, rewrite, and instantly distribute an

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artist's song across the globe in seconds, the

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concept of owning your melody is more fragile

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than it has ever been. Oh, absolutely. If Claire

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Fisher was frustrated by a cover song in 1969,

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imagine how composers will feel in 2030 when

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a million different versions of their song are

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created by the audience overnight. When art is

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instantly malleable by the masses, what does

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authorship even mean anymore? It's a daunting

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reality that every modern artist is going to

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have to face. It certainly is. We want to thank

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you so much for joining us on this deep dive

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into the source material today. We hope you learned

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something new and that you'll never hear a jazz

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standard quite the same way again. Until next

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time, keep listening closely. Take care, everyone.
