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Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today we are going

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to be talking about the invisible hands that

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have, well, literally shaped the physical map

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of the United States. And not just the historical

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map either. Right, not just the map of the past,

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but the actual very real energy grid that is

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powering whatever device you are using to listen

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to us right now. Exactly, it's all connected.

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And we are pulling all of this from a single...

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Highly detailed source text today. It is a comprehensive

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Wikipedia article mapping out the history, the

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scope, and the evolution of the United States

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Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources.

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Which I know sounds a bit dry. A little bit.

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Yeah. A deep dive into a Senate committee might

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sound like a very bureaucratic history lesson

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on the surface. But the story of this single

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legislative body is essentially the story of

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American expansion and modernization. It serves

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as a perfect shortcut to understanding how a

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rapidly growing nation figures out what to do

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with its land, its resources, and ultimately,

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you know, its future. Okay, let's unpack this.

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Because to truly understand the sheer magnitude

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of power this committee holds today, we really

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have to go all the way back to the beginning.

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We do. We are talking more than two centuries

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ago. The source text reveals this group wasn't

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always focused on energy. Not at all. When it

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was first created in 1816 during the 14th Congress,

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it was simply called the Committee on Public

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Lands. Right. A much simpler title. Much simpler.

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And the very first chair was a senator named

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Jeremiah Morrow. And their initial major job

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was managing the settlement of the recently purchased

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Missouri Territory. Visualizing the map of the

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United States in 1816 is crucial here, I think.

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Oh, for sure. It looked completely different.

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Totally. The country was heavily concentrated

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on the East Coast, but looking westward with

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intense ambition. They had vast amounts of newly

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acquired, unmapped territory and desperately

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needed a centralized system to manage it. Because

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you can't just have a free -for -all. Exactly.

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This committee became that system. Looking at

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the major milestones of Western expansion overseen

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by this specific... group of politicians is,

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well, it's staggering. It really is. They managed

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the Texas annexation. They handled the Oregon

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treaty. They were responsible for the Mexican

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session and the Gadsden purchase. Those last

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two always sound like vocabulary words from a

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high school history test, but we are talking

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about massive. physical changes to the country

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here. Huge chunks of land. Yeah. The Mexican

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session alone is basically the entire modern

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American Southwest. We're talking California,

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Nevada, Utah, most of Arizona. It's an unbelievable

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amount of acreage. This committee was literally

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sitting in a room in Washington. looking at maps

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and drawing the lines that would stretch the

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United States from the Atlantic coast all the

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way to the Pacific Ocean. They were real estate

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managers for an empire, essentially. Right. But

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how did they actually convince millions of people

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to physically pack up their lives and move into

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those blank spaces on the map? They use legislation

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as an incentive. Makes sense. Most notably, the

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Homestead Act of 1860, which the source points

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out, came directly out of the jurisdiction of

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this public lands committee. I want to focus

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on that for a second because the Homestead Act

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is a monumental piece of legislation. Truly game

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changing. This wasn't just a policy paper. This

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was a direct offer to the public. They were essentially

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handing out the keys to the continent, telling

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families that if they were willing to travel

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out west, claim a plot of land and farm it, that

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land would be theirs. Yeah, sweat equity for

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real estate. Exactly. This single committee.

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was driving massive Western migration, incentivizing

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the physical occupation of the continent. The

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amount of influence required to wield that kind

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of power over the trajectory of a nation's demographics

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and its economy is profound. It's almost hard

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to wrap your head around. They were deciding

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who gets the land, how it is divided, and the

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rules for living on it. But as the frontier eventually

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began to close, the fundamental needs of the

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country started to shift. Because they ran out

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of map. Right. The era of endless westward expansion

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was hitting its geographical limits. Which means

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the focus of the committee had to change right

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along with it. Looking at the timeline in our

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source, I see a massive pivot happen right around

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the middle of the 19th century. A very distinct

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pivot. In 1849, the Department of the Interior

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is established. And this exact committee, the

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Public Lands Committee, is tasked with serving

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as its legislative oversight. Yes. Wait, why

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the sudden change of heart in their mandate?

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Did they just realize they were running out of

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land to give away? If we connect this to the

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bigger picture, you go from a purely extractive

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and expansionist mindset conquering the frontier

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to a mindset of stewardship. Stewardship, so

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taking care of it. Exactly. The land was mostly

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acquired, so now it needed management. Congress,

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acting through the direct actions and jurisdiction

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of this committee, began actively working toward

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the preservation of forests, of wilderness areas,

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and of historical landmarks. The Dex gives us

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some incredible specific milestones to back this

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up too. For instance, the signing of the Antiquities

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Act in 1906. A huge moment for conservation.

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And for anyone wondering what that looks like

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in practice, the Antiquities Act is the law that

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allows a president to unilaterally declare a

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piece of land a national monument. To protect

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significant natural, cultural, or scientific

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features. Right. It is the tool used to instantly

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protect some of the most famous landscapes in

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the country from being mined, logged, or sold.

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And a decade later, that preservation mindset

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was formalized even further with the establishment

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of the National Park Service in 1916. Also under

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this committee. Yes, both of these massive conservation

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achievements fall right under the historical

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legacy of this committee. They created a unified

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structure to manage these breathtaking landscapes,

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ensuring they remained untouched for future generations.

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It's amazing to think about. These weren't abstract

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political maneuvers. They were physical, permanent

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changes to how Americans interacted with their

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own country. I really want to emphasize this

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directly to you listening right now. The next

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time you go for a hike in a national forest or

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you take a road trip, trip to a historic landmark,

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or you stand at the edge of a canyon in a national

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park, you are enjoying the direct, tangible results

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of this specific committee's shift toward conservation

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over a century ago. It is their legislative footprint

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you are walking on. Absolutely. So we've got

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expansion and then preservation. But things get

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complicated fast. They do. The 20th century brings

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an explosion of complexity technologically, economically,

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and socially. Right. It's not just dirt and trees

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anymore. Exactly. A committee managing the interior

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of the United States couldn't just stay focused

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entirely on public lands and parks. As the nation

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industrialized, mapped its geological assets,

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and developed new forms of power, the bureaucratic

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structure had to adapt constantly. Looking at

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the timeline between 1921 and 1977, the name

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of this committee... changes so many times it

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kind of gives me a bit of a headache. It is a

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lot of reorganization. But the evolving names

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actually rid like a detective story about the

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country's growing tangled complexity. So in 1921,

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the committee merges with the Committee on Geological

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Surveys. Making them the Committee on Public

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Lands and Surveys. Right. Geological mapping

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was becoming a critical national interest. To

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manage resources, you first have to know exactly

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where they are and what the terrain looks like.

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Then we hit 1946, and thanks to the Legislative

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Reorganization Act, this committee goes on an

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absolute absorption spree. They really consolidated

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power. It absorbs the jurisdiction of the Indian

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Affairs Committee. It takes in territorial and

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insular affairs. It grabs mines and mining, and

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it adds irrigation and reclamation. That is a

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massive portfolio. With all of that under its

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belt, it gets this incredibly broad title, the

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Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs. What

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does insular even mean in this context? Insular

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refers to the island territories and possessions

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of the United States beyond the mainland. Ah,

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okay. That makes sense. The portfolio had become

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vastly encompassing by this point. They were

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managing the land, the resources beneath the

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land, the complex water systems required to make

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arid land arable, the territory stretching across

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the globe, and the deeply complex trust relationships

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with indigenous peoples. All under one roof.

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It was an enormous concentration of policy areas

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living under one single committee. But then the

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late 1960s and 1970s brought an entirely new

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paradigm to the forefront of American politics.

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We are talking about the era of the energy crisis.

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Gas lines, shortages. Exactly. And the massive

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rise of the modern environmental movement. The

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system needed another massive overhaul to reflect

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those priorities. Which brings us to February

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4th, 1977. Following the committee system reorganization

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amendments, this powerhouse group finally receives

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the name we know it by today. The Committee on

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Energy and Natural Resources. That's the one.

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And that 1977 reorganization also included a

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crucial strategic separation. Right. They had

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to offload some of that massive 1946 portfolio.

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They did. The source explicitly notes that most

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matters regarding Native Americans, Alaska Natives,

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and Native Hawaiians were strategically removed

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from this committee's plate and transferred out

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to the newly formed Committee on Indian Affairs.

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That split makes perfect sense when you look

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at how massive the energy part of their new mandate

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was about to become. It became their defining

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feature. Here's where it gets really interesting.

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I was looking at their official jurisdiction

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list under Senate Rule XXV today, and it is a

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stack. staggering catalog of responsibilities.

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It almost feels contradictory. Contradictory.

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How? Well, one line says they manage coal production,

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oil and offshore drilling. And the very next

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line says they protect wild rivers and prehistoric

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ruins. What's fascinating here is the sheer juxtaposition

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of those responsibilities. Right. This single

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committee is tasked with overseeing both the

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intense extraction of resources and the rigorous

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preservation of resources. They write the rules

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for coal distribution. And oil and gas production.

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And extracting minerals from the outer continental

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shelf. Which is essentially the underwater landmass

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extending from the continent where we do a lot

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of our offshore drilling. And at the exact same

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time, they oversee hydroelectric power, solar

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energy systems, and the non -military development

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of nuclear energy. They are responsible for national

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energy policy, energy conservation, and mining

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education. It's just wild. Moving back to the

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surface of the land, they retain their historical

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jurisdiction over national parks, recreation

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areas, wilderness areas, historical sites, military

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parks. They govern farming, grazing, and mineral

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extraction on public lands, plus the territorial

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possessions of the United States. They are constantly

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balancing the engine of American industry against

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the preservation of the American landscape. It

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is a high -wire act of policy. To put into perspective

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how they enforce all of this, we don't even need

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to list every single bureau they oversee because

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the summary is wild enough. The summary says

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it all. If there's a federal agency that touches

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the dirt, the water, or... the power grid of

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the United States, this committee likely holds

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oversight authority over them. We are talking

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about the Department of Energy. the Department

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of the Interior, the United States Forest Service,

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and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission.

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The oversight extends to the Bureau of Land Management,

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the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, and the

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National Nuclear Security Administration. It

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never ends. And notably, while the primary legislative

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jurisdiction over Native American affairs was

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transferred in 1977, the committee's oversight

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authority still includes the Bureau of Indian

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Affairs and the Bureau of Indian Education alongside

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the Office of Insular Affairs. Affairs, and the

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National Park Service. It is a sprawling web

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of federal power. Which brings us to the present

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day. Who are the people actually sitting in these

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chairs right now? That's a big question. We are

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going to look at the current makeup of the committee

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for the 119th Congress. And as a quick impartiality

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check, we're simply reading the current roster

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directly from our source text to provide factual

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context. Right. Just the facts. We are taking

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absolutely no political sides here. We're just

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mapping out how this massive workload is distributed

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among sitting politicians. The 119th Congress

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structure features a 20 -member standing committee.

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The majority is composed of 11 Republicans, led

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by the chair, Senator Mike Lee of Utah. Okay.

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The minority is made up of nine members, which

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includes eight Democrats and one independent

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who caucuses with them, Angus King of Maine.

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And who leads the minority? The minority is led

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by the ranking member, Senator Martin Heinrich

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of New Mexico. 20 people cannot possibly manage

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the entire American energy grid and all its national

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parks as a single group. No, they would never

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sleep. So they divide the workload into four

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highly specialized subcommittees. Looking at

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the chairs of these subcommittees, the geographic

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connections are really revealing. The assignments

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are highly strategic. First, you have the Subcommittee

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on Energy. For the 119th Congress, that is chaired

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by Daze McCormick, a Republican from Pennsylvania,

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with Ruben Gallego, a Democrat from Arizona,

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as ranking member. That geography makes sense.

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Very much so. Pennsylvania has a massive historical

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and modern footprint in coal, oil, and natural

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gas, making that leadership role highly relevant

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to the state's economy. Second is the Subcommittee

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on National Parks. This is chaired by Steve Daines,

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a Republican from Montana, with Angus King, the

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Independent from Maine, serving as a ranking

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member. Montana and Maine. Right. When your home

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state includes Glacier National Park and portions

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of Yellowstone, having a say in how the National

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Park Service operates is a direct line to protecting

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your local tourism and conservation interests.

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The third is the Subcommittee on Public Lands,

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Forests, and Mining, chaired by John Barrasso,

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a Republican from Wyoming, with ranking member

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Catherine Cortez Masto, a Democrat from Nevada.

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This one is the perfect example of why these

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seats matter. If you are a senator from Nevada,

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where the federal government owns roughly 80

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% of the land within your state's borders. 80

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% is massive. Or Wyoming, where nearly half the

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state is federal land. Getting a seat on the

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public land subcommittee isn't just a prestige

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move in Washington. No, it's essential. It is

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practically a requirement for serving your constituents.

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You are directly overseeing the landlord of your

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own state. Finally, the fourth is the Subcommittee

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on Water and Power, chaired by John Hoeven, a

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Republican from North Dakota, with Ron Wyden,

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a Democrat from Oregon, acting as the ranking

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member. Another great regional match. Exactly.

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Governing hydroelectric power and reclamation

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projects is vital for the agricultural and energy

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sectors of those specific regions. The source

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text includes historical rosters, too, and you

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really get a sense of the continuity of power.

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Sitting on this committee has long been a major

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seat of influence. Some very big names have come

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through there. In recent years, you have highly

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recognizable names like Joe Manchin of West Virginia

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and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska. steering the committee

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looking back further the text highlights historical

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giants of the senate like scoop jackson of washington

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oh yeah he chaired the committee during its massive

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transition in the 1970s serving from 1963 all

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the way to 1981. that is quite a run or reed

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smoot of utah who chaired the public lands committee

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during the 1910s and 20s the people holding these

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gavels have always had a massive say in the physical

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and economic reality of the country You cannot

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chair the committee that regulates the nation's

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energy grid, its mining operations, its territories,

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and its national parks without holding a significant

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amount of sway over the entire national agenda.

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The power is entirely inherent to the portfolio.

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It is the ultimate story of institutional adaptation.

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As the physical and technological boundaries

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of the country expanded, the scope of this committee

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expanded to meet them. So what does this all

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mean? We started this deep dive looking at a

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group of politicians in 1816 trying to figure

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out how to settle the unmapped dirt roads of

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Missouri Territory. A very different world. And

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today, that exact same legislative lineage is

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dictating the future of solar energy systems,

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non -military nuclear power, and the deeply complex

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realities of the modern electrical grid. I really

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want you to think about that connection. It's

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profound. Every single time you turn on a light

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switch in your house or every time you pull over

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to read a bronze plaque at a national monument,

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the specific rules, the funding and the regulations

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governing that exact experience likely passed

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through room 304 of the Dirksen Senate Office

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Building. Right, in Washington. That is where

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this committee meets today. That is where the

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invisible hands do their work. Consider the incredible

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200 -year journey of this specific legislative

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body. It was originally chartered to facilitate

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the rapid expansion of a primarily agrarian nation

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across a wild, uncharted continent. From dirt

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roads to the nuclear grid. Today, it is the very

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entity tasked with regulating the highly complex,

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technologically advanced, and delicate energy

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needs of that exact same landmass. They went

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from managing the Homestead Act of 1860 to managing

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the National Nuclear Security Administration.

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It's an unbelievable trajectory. needs to survive

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and grow, what entirely new, unimaginable frontiers

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might this very same committee be regulating

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a century from now?
