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Imagine for a second. that you are deciding the

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absolute most important political elections in

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your entire country. But instead of, you know,

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filling out a ballot or pulling a lever or even

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sending in a secure piece of mail, the winner

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is chosen based entirely on who the crowd screams

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for the loudest. Wow. Literally a popularity

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contest decided by sheer volume. Exactly. Just

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volume. Today, we are jumping into a deep dive

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on the mechanics, the wild history and the highly

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surprising modern applications. of the voice

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vote or, as it is formally known, acclamation.

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And we're pulling from a really comprehensive

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Wikipedia article on the subject for this deep

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dive. Yeah, it's a great source. And our mission

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today is to figure out how this seemingly archaic

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method, I mean, just standing in a room and yelling

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I or no somehow remains the quickest, the most

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common, and sometimes the absolute most controversial

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way that deliberative assemblies make decisions

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right now, today. It is a fascinating contradiction

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when you really look at it. We live in an era

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of... of digital cryptography, secure servers,

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instant electronic tabulation. Yet the fundamental

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machinery of our laws, our local councils, even

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massive international organizations. often still

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relies on a group of people just using their

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vocal cords to push a decision forward. That

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contradiction is exactly why we need to lay the

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table here. Let's get the basic definition down.

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A voice vote comes from the Latin term viva voce,

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which translates to by live voice. It's a voting

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method where a group responds vocally all at

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once. The entire room just speaks their choice

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into the air. Hearing that Latin term, it sounds

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awfully similar to another process you hear about

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in politics, a viva voce roll call vote. Right,

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which causes endless confusion. Yeah, because

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if I'm thinking about the logistics, those have

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to be entirely different mechanisms. A voice

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vote is this massive, chaotic group shout. But

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a roll call, even if spoken aloud, is going down

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a list person by person. That is a crucial distinction

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to make right at the top. They share a Latin

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root, but the mechanics are worlds apart. A viva

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voce roll call vote removes the anonymity. Because

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they call your name. Exactly. The clerk calls

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your name, you stand up or speak into a microphone,

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and your specific choice goes into the permanent

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public record. The traditional voice vote, though,

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the collective shout, is entirely anonymous.

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It's just a wave of sound. A wave of sound where

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individual voices blend into a single, unrecorded

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roar. Okay, let's unpack this. How does a standard

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voice vote actually work in practice? We are

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talking about a very streamlined two -step process.

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The presiding officer or the chair of the assembly

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puts the question to the room. Right. First,

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they ask everyone who is in favor of the motion

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to indicate so orally. You will usually hear

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them say something like, all those in favor say

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aye. Or sometimes yay. Yeah, yeah. Then they

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flip it and ask everyone who is opposed to the

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motion to do the same thing, usually by saying

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no or nay. And after both sides have had their

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turn to make some noise, the chair just, they

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just listen. They estimate the count on each

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side based on the volume and then declare what

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they believe the result to be. The entire system

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is entirely reliant on human perception. The

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chair is making a real -time, high -stakes judgment

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call based on nothing but sound waves hitting

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their ears. Usually in a cavernous echoing room,

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right? Exactly. And while our minds immediately

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jump to politicians in grand legislative chambers

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wearing suits, The practical applications of

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this method are woven into the fabric of everyday

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life for all of us. Voice votes are everywhere

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once you start looking for them. I mean, think

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about your own life outside of any government

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building. Like local events. Yeah. Have you ever

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been to a battle of the bands or a spectator

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sport where the audience gets to choose the most

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valuable player or the man of the match? Or even

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a local dog show picking best in show. Perfect

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example. The MC points to the first option. The

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crowd cheers. They point to the second. The crowd

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roars. The MC judges the loudest reaction and

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hands out the trophy. And if you have ever participated

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in that, you have participated in a formal voice

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vote. So why is it so common? The reason this

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method scales so perfectly, from a local pub's

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trivia night all the way up to national parliaments,

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is purely practical. It is considered the simplest

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and quickest method. Because time is an incredibly

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scarce resource in any deliberative body. Right.

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When you have an assembly of hundreds of people

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individually counting every single vote for every

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minor procedural step, every motion to recess,

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every motion to approve the previous day's minutes,

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it would completely paralyze the institution.

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You'd never get anything done. Never. The voice

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vote is the ultimate lubricant for bureaucracy.

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It is perfect for situations where there's already

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wide agreement or unanimity in the room. You

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just need to quickly confirm the consensus and

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move on. But the history of this quick and easy

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method goes back to a time when it was the absolute

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main event. We have to take you back to ancient

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Greece, specifically 7th century BC Sparta. Ah,

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yes. We're talking about the election of the

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members of the Jerusia, the Spartan Council of

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Elders. This was the pinnacle of their political

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hierarchy. These were lifetime appointments.

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The stakes for these elections were monumental,

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shaping the direction of Spartan society, warfare,

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law. And the way they elected these vital leaders

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was literally conducted by a shouting match.

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It's wild to picture. Paint the physical scene

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for us based on the sources. Okay, you have the

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massive assembly of citizens gathered. Meanwhile...

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A special jury of a few selected people is taken

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and locked inside a nearby stone room. Locked

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away. Locked away specifically so they are visually

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isolated. They cannot see the candidates at all.

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All they can do is sit in the dark and hear the

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muffled noise of the crowd outside. And out in

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the open assembly, the candidates are paraded

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in front of the audience one after another. And

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they do this completely silently. No campaign

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speeches. No grandstanding. They just walk out

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and stand there. What's fascinating here is how

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this transforms the crowd's reaction into a sophisticated

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metric. It was essentially an early form of approval

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voting. The locked away jury was tasked with

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establishing a ranking of all the candidates

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based purely on assessing the loudness of the

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assembly's acclamations to each silent figure.

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They ranked them by volume. The loudest one.

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The candidates who received the most sustained,

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deafening shouts were declared elected. So wait.

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If they are just judging the loudest volume for

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a series of candidates, they aren't just voting

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yes or no on a single issue. They are ranking

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a whole field of options. You can cheer for as

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many candidates as you like, but your vocal cords

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only have so much stamina. Just imagine being

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on that jury, staring at a stone wall, trying

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to decide if the third roar of the afternoon

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was slightly more deafening than the fifth roar.

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It is raw democracy in its most chaotic form.

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You are relying entirely on the collective lung

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capacity of the populace to build a government.

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It really is. It captures the visceral energy

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of ancient politics perfectly. But it also highlights

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the core inescapable issue with the voice vote,

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which is precision. When you are measuring political

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will by the sheer physical force of sound, you

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are opening the door to a multitude of inherent

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structural disadvantages. Here's where it gets

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really interesting. because you don't have to

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look hard to see the glaring flaws outlined in

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the text not at all First and foremost, as we

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just saw with the Spartans, the volume is only

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ever estimated. It is never actually measured

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with sound level meters. Right. You don't see

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parliamentary speakers pulling out decibel meters

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and charting the waveforms. The chair is just

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using their ears and their gut feeling. And furthermore,

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it ruins any chance of a secret ballot. Completely

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destroys it. You have to make a physical audible

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signal in an open room surrounded by your peers,

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your colleagues and potentially your political

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rivals. The social pressure is immense. If you

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are voting on something. highly contentious,

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having to shout your true opinion for everyone

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within a 20 -foot radius to hear forces public

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conformity in a way that a private paper ballot

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specifically prevents. And there is a physical

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bias built into the system that gives an unfair

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advantage to people who simply have naturally

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louder voices. Even if you did bring in that

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decibel meter to objectively measure the sound,

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a coalition of ten soft -spoken people might

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get completely drowned out by three people across

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the aisle who happen to project beautifully from

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their diaphragm. You are conflating volume with

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majority. Exactly. This raises an important question.

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If the system is so delightfully imprecise and

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prone to physical bias, how does it survive as

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the default mechanism in modern governance? Why

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do we keep using it? The answer lies in the concept

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of plausible deniability. Plausible deniability.

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Okay, explain that dynamic. Because the chair

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is just estimating. It gives them a massive amount

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of unwritten power, gives them the cover to falsify

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the result if they personally disagree with it.

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Oh, wow. So if the eyes and the nays are even

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somewhat close in volume, the chair can just

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say, well, it sounded to me like the nays were

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louder. Precisely. They can effectively steer

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the result to suit their political preference.

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And they can just claim they heard it differently

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from where they were sitting up on the dais.

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Which is exactly why any functional deliberative

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assembly has to build in fail -safes. Yes. To

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prevent tyranny by the chair, assemblies have

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backup plans. If a member doubts the outcome,

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they can demand another, more precise method

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of voting. Usually this takes the form of a division

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of the assembly. A standing or rising vote. Right.

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It strips away the anonymity. Everyone has to

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physically stand up to be visually counted. You

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cannot fake the math when human bodies are literally

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standing right in front of you. Or they can demand

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a roll call vote. But different countries put

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their own spin on the rules for these fail -safes,

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which proves just how pervasive the voice vote

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really is. Let's do a rapid -fire global tour

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to see how this plays out. Let's start in the

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United States. According to Roberts' Rules of

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Order, specifically the 11th edition, the voice

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vote is the regular method for majority votes.

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And its usage is staggering. In state legislatures

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across the country, an estimated 95 % of all

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resolutions are passed by a unanimous voice vote.

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95 % sounds like an authoritarian rubber stamp

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until you realize what they are actually voting

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on. It's mostly routine stuff. Commemorating

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a town's bicentennial, recognizing a retiring

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local fire chief. Things like that. You simply

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do not need a grueling roll call to agree that

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the local firefighters did a good job. The voice

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vote clears the desk. Even in Congress, it handles

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the routine. But if things get contentious, it

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takes one fifth of the members present to demand

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a recorded vote if they disagree with the chair's

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call. Now, if we cross the Atlantic to the United

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Kingdom, the theatricality is entirely different.

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In the House of Commons, it's called collecting

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the voices. I love that terminology, collecting

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the voices. The speaker declares, I think the

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eyes have it, or I think the nose have it. And

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if they are challenged by the room... They yell

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a very specific command. Division, clear the

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lobbies. Division. Clear the lobbies. That is

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so dramatic. And then just down the hall in the

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House of Lords, it takes on this uniquely polite

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tone. The lords do not yell aye or nay. No. Instead,

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lords say content or not content. Content or

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not content. And if challenged, the command is

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division. Clear the bar. It's a great polite

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quirk. And we see variations in the Commonwealth

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thresholds, too. Canada requires five members

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to demand a recorded vote. Australia requires

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two. But let's look at India, known as the Jhanimat.

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It is used extensively in the Luksaba and the

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Rajasaba. But there is a really vital contextual

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detail from the text about how it functions there.

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It's used not just for white agreement, but sometimes

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when the house is not in order. When the house

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is not in order, what does that look like? Imagine

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an assembly in a state of severe disruption.

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Members protesting, chanting. Conducting a formal

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roll call in that environment is practically

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impossible. Right, because nobody can hear anything.

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We saw a clear example of this during the chaotic

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formation of the Indian state of Telangana in

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2014. Exactly. The assembly was deeply fractured.

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In that chaotic environment, the voice vote bypassed

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the gridlock of counting and was used as a blunt

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procedural instrument to push the decision forward

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through the sheer noise of the disruption. So

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what does this all mean? We have spent... Thousands

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of years optimizing the act of screaming at each

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other to make rules. Sure. But there is an organization

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that looked at this entire history, looked at

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the inherent flaws of shouting, and introduced

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a brilliant pivot. The ITF. The Internet Engineering

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Task Force. When this global community of network

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designers and researchers needs to estimate participants'

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positions on issues, they don't shout, they use

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humming. They hum. as a voice vote method if

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we connect this to the bigger picture humming

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removes the aggressive loudness advantage of

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shouting because it's physically very difficult

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for one person to hum aggressively enough to

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drown out 10 other people right it offers a more

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collective harmonic way to gauge consensus it's

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a perfect example for you to think about how

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your own workplace measures agreement it fundamentally

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changes the entire psychological atmosphere of

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the room You aren't conquering the other side

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with your volume. It is a beautiful synthesis

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of the journey we have been on today. From Spartan

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elders elected by screams. To British lords politely

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declaring they are content. All the way to modern

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internet engineers humming in unison. Despite

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all our incredible technological advancements,

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human voices remain the ultimate, quickest tool

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we have for collective decision making. They

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really do. But before we wrap up, we want to

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leave you with one final, fascinating, unmentioned

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detail from the sources to mull over regarding

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the rules in New Zealand. Ah, the New Zealand

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rules. In New Zealand's parliament, if a voice

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vote is called, members of the losing side or

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abstainers are fully entitled to demand a formal

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test of opinion. A recount, essentially. That

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makes sense. However, supporters of the side

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declared to have won are strictly not allowed

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to demand one. I want you to let that specific

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quirk sink in for a second. Why would a winning

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side ever want to demand a recount anyway? They

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already have the victory. It's a great question.

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perhaps to force their opponent's embarrassing

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loss onto the permanent recorded record. It is

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a brilliant piece of psychological and procedural

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strategy to think about the next time you are

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in a competitive group setting. Thank you so

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much for joining us on this deep dive into the

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surprisingly complex world of the voice vote.

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Keep questioning the process and we will catch

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you next time.
