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Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining

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us on today's Deep Dive. We are really thrilled

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to have you with us. Yeah, so glad you could

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tune in. Today, we are looking at a stack of

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profoundly fascinating notes, primarily drawing

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from a comprehensive Wikipedia article about

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a man who fundamentally reshaped the world we

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live in. And I mean that quite literally. Oh,

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absolutely. We are talking about Marcel Breuer.

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a Hungarian -American visionary. This is a designer

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and architect who didn't just change the chairs

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we sit in, he completely altered the city's skylines

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we look up at every single day. It is quite a

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legacy. I mean, we are looking at a career that

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spans decades and mediums, touching everything

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from the quiet intimacy of a residential living

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room to the imposing scale of government headquarters.

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And our mission for this deep dive is to trace

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that sweeping evolution. We want to follow Breuer's

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journey from being a young, radical student shaping

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wood and steel in Germany, all the way to becoming

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a master of monumental heavy concrete in America.

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Okay, let's unpack this. Where does a story like

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this actually begin? It begins in a time and

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place fraught with complexity. Marcel Breuer,

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commonly known to his friends as Lashko. Lashko.

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Yeah, which is a diminutive of his middle name,

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Lajos. He was born in 1902 in Pex, Hungary. You

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know, that was part of the Austro -Hungarian

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Empire. Right. And he was born into a Jewish

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family, and it is crucial to understand the historical

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reality he was navigating as a young man. The

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rising tide of anti -Semitism in Germany was

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a stark... inescapable force in his life. Wow.

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In fact, it was so severe that he was actually

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forced to renounce his faith simply to marry

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Marta Earps. That is a really sobering reality

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to face so early in life. It puts his later search

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for new rational ways of living into a lot of

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perspective. So he leaves his workplace at the

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age of 18 in search of artistic training. Where

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does a teenager go to find direction in post

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-World War I Europe? Initially, he spends a very

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short period at the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna,

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but he quickly pivots. He heads to a brand new

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radical arts and crafts school in Weimar, Germany.

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A Bauhaus. Exactly, the Bauhaus. And remarkably,

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he was one of their very first and youngest students.

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The Bauhaus is such a legendary crucible for

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modern design. Did he stand out among the older

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students? He absolutely did. Specifically to

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the school's founder, Walter Gropius. Gropius

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was 19 years older than Brewer, but he immediately

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recognized this teenager's significant talent.

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He didn't just enroll him, he quickly put Brewer

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in charge of the Bauhaus carpentry shop. A teenager

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running the shop. Yeah. Gropius became a lifelong

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mentor to him, initiating a complex dynamic that

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would define much of Brewer's early career. It's

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staggering to think about. And by 1925, the school

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moves to Dessau. Breuer takes a brief trip to

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Paris, but then returns to the Bauhaus not as

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a student, but as a master. Right. He starts

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teaching in their newly established architecture

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department alongside absolute legends like Joseph

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Albers, Wassily Kandinsky, and Paul Klee. But

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during this period, he has a design breakthrough

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that feels almost too perfectly simple. Can you

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walk us through the bicycle epiphany? Gladly.

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It is a brilliant leap of logic. Breuer was riding

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his bicycle and just looked down at the handlebars.

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He realized that the lightweight, mass -producible,

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exceptionally strong tubular steel used for bicycles

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could be applied to domestic furniture. Wait,

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how does one go from looking at a bicycle to

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building a living room chair? That seems like

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a huge jump. What's fascinating here is how Breuer

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was adapting influences from Dutch designers

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like Gerrit Rietveld and Theo van Doesburg. Ah,

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okay. Their work was highly geometric and elemental.

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Breuer took those rigid geometric ideas and translated

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them into this entirely new industrial material.

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He figured out how to bend the continuous steel

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tubes without them snapping or crimping, creating

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a completely new vocabulary for interior design.

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It was all about lightness, rationality, and

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a clear separation of parts. Before we move on

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from the furniture, I have to ask about the most

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famous result of that tubular steel invention,

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because our source text points out a widespread

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historical misconception. Oh, the wassily chair.

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Exactly. Anyone who knows mid -century design

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knows the famous wassily chair, that sleek leather

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and tubular steel armchair. The popular belief

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has always been that Breuer designed it specifically

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for his friend, the painter Wassily Kandinsky.

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Is there any truth to that? It is a wonderful

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story, but entirely untrue. The reality is that

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Breuer designed the chair as part of his own

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explorations into tubular steel. Kandinsky simply

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saw the finished prototype in Breuer's studio,

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admired it greatly, and so Breuer made an additional

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copy specifically for Kandinsky to use in his

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home. So where did the name come from? The name

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Wassily wasn't attached to it until decades later.

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When the chair was re -released in the 1960s,

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an Italian manufacturer learned the anecdote

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about Kandinsky receiving one of the earliest

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units. They essentially used the name Wassily

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as a brilliant piece of marketing spin to sell

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more chairs. A 1960s marketing campaign completely

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rewriting design history. That is fascinating.

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So throughout the late 1920s and early 1930s,

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Breuer's essentially living off these furniture

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design fees. Because architectural commissions

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are scarce. Right. There just wasn't a lot of

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building happening. He gets some work, like designing

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interiors at the 1927 Weissenhof estate assigned

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him by Gropius. But eventually, the political

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situation in Europe makes staying impossible.

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Where does he go next? By 1935, at the suggestion

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of his mentor Gropius, Brewer relocates to London.

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This is a brief but pivotal move. In London,

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he is employed by Jack Pritchard at the Isocon

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Company, which was one of the earliest champions

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of modern design in the UK. Here, Brewer starts

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experimenting with a new material bent and formed

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plywood. He was heavily inspired by the Finnish

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architect Alvar Aalto. This experimentation results

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in Brewer's famous long chair. He even works

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with the English modernist FRS York, designing

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several houses. But he doesn't stay in London

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forever. When does he finally cross the Atlantic?

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That happens in 1937. Gropius accepts an appointment

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as the chairman of Harvard's Graduate School

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of Design in Cambridge, Massachusetts. And once

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again, Brewer follows his mentor. Right. They

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form an architectural partnership that essentially

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establishes the American way of designing modern

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houses. Teaching at Harvard during that wartime

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era must have put them in contact with a new

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generation of talent. Did any of their students

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go on to do anything notable? To say the least.

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They were shaping the minds of architects who

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would literally build the 20th century. Oh, wow.

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The students included I .M. Pei, Philip Johnson,

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Paul Rudolph and Elliot Noyes. They were establishing

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a dynasty of modernism. But partnerships, especially

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those with a strong father figure dynamic like

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Gropius and Brewer, often hit a wall. Our source

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notes they split in 1941. What happened? The

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catalyst was reportedly a very minor issue. But

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if we look at the deeper psychological context,

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it makes complete sense. Breuer was approaching

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40. He was an established genius in his own right.

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Sure. There's a great lesson here about creative

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evolution. Sometimes the very mentor who unlocks

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your potential is the same person you eventually

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have to leave behind to find your own distinct

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voice. He needed to get out from under the dominant

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shadow of Gropius to truly cement his own legacy.

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Here's where it gets really interesting. Because

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breaking away from Gropius unlocks something

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profound in Breuer. By 1946, he moves to New

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York City to establish his solo practice, and

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it is during this solo era that he radically

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redefines the American home. Tell me about the

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1945 Geller House AI. This introduces a concept

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that changed everything. The Geller House I introduce

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is what Breuer called the binuclear concept.

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It is a masterclass in domestic logic. Binuclear.

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Yes. Before this, American homes were often quite

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compartmentalized, like a series of closed boxes

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or conversely, just chaotic open spaces. Breuer

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conceptually split the house into two distinct

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functional wings. One wing was dedicated to the

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noisy activities, the living room, the dining

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room, the kitchen. The other wing was strictly

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for quiet spaces, meaning the bedrooms. These

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two separate nuclei were then connected by an

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That really ties back to the core philosophy

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we saw in the tubular chair, doesn't it? That

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rationality, the logical separation of parts.

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I want you, the listener, to just pause and think

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about the layout of your own home right now or

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homes you've lived in. That distinct separation

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of the noisy living spaces from the quiet sleeping

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areas, a concept so many of us take entirely

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for granted today, that is a direct line back

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to Marcel Breuer's modernist innovations. He

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also popularized a very specific type of roof

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during this period, right? Yes, the butterfly

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roof. Instead of a traditional peaked roof that

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sheds water outward, a butterfly roof features

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two opposing surfaces that slope inward toward

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the middle, draining centrally. Which creates

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that V shape. Exactly. It creates a striking

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angular silhouette against the sky and became

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a defining feature of the popular modernist style

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vocabulary. His residential work really captured

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the public's imagination. Our notes highlight

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a 1949 exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art

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in New York. That sounds like an absolute spectacle.

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It was a true cultural event. MoMA actually set

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up a demonstration house in their garden designed

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by Brewer to show the public what modern living

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could look like. The public buzz was unprecedented.

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I can imagine. People were lining up to see it.

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It was so beloved that when the exhibition ended,

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the house in the garden wasn't simply demolished.

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It was carefully dismantled, loaded onto a barge

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and floated up the Hudson River to be reassembled

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on the Rockefeller family property in Pocantico

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Hills. Just picture. A fully built modernist

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house floating up the Hudson River. What a visual.

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So he is dominating the residential scene throughout

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the 40s. But the 1950s mark a sweeping shift

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in his career. How does he go from these relatively

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light residential homes to the heavy institutional

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structures he is known for later? It is a deliberate

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evolution in scale and material. He transitions

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away from wood and steel and adopts concrete

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as his primary language. This turning point is

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marked by two vital commissions, the Master Plan

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and Church at St. John's Abbey in Minnesota,

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begun in 1954, and the UNESCO headquarters in

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Paris, finished in 1955. There is an anecdote

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in our sources about the St. John's Abbey commission

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that feels deeply satisfying, especially considering

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his history with Gropius. Didn't they cross paths

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again for this job? They did. Gropius was actually

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a competitor for the St. John's Abbey job. But

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Gropius himself reportedly told the monks that

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they needed a younger man to finish the project.

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Oh, that's incredible. Right. And so Breuer beats

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out his old mentor for this legacy -defining

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commission. It is a poetic passing of the torch.

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To truly appreciate how he reached this point

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of mastery, I think we need to understand his

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progression. The text outlines four distinct

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phases his architectural vocabulary moved through.

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Can we walk through those? Certainly. Understanding

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these phases clarifies why his buildings look

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the way they do. Phase one was the white box

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and glass school of the international style.

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For those who might not be familiar, what exactly

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makes a building international style? It refers

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to an architectural style that emerged in the

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1920s and 30s that was entirely unadorned and

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geography agnostic. It didn't rely on local cultural

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traditions or historical decorations. It was

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universal flat roofs, smooth white surfaces,

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generous use of glass. We saw this in his early

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European houses and his first projects in the

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U .S. Okay, very sleek, very rigid. What prompted

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phase two? A desire for more warmth and texture.

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Phase two and characterized by punctured wooden

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walls. We saw this in his 1949 MoMA house in

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the garden and several modest homes he built

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for university faculty families. Right. This

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phase also prominently featured the cantilever,

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which is essentially a structural beam anchored

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at only one end. It allows elements like a balcony

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or an entire room to extend outward and seemingly

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float in midair without visible support beneath

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them. That floating effect is such a hallmark

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of mid -century design. Then we hit phase three.

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which introduces the heavy industry. Precisely.

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Phase III is defined by modular, prefabricated

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concrete panel facades. As his commissions grew

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to the scale of massive government and corporate

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headquarters, he needed efficiency. He first

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used this in closing his favorite IBM laboratory

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in France and then applied it to entire towns.

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But didn't people criticize that? They did. When

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critics pointed out the repetitiveness of this

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modular system, Rohr had a wonderfully pragmatic

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defense. He told a professional friend, I can't

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design a whole new system every Monday morning.

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That is the most brutally honest architectural

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quote I have ever heard. Which brings us to phase

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four. Phase four is the era of stone and shaped

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concrete. He moved away from flat panels and

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began using board -formed concrete. And board

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-formed concrete is when they pour the wet concrete

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into wooden molds, correct? So when the mold

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is removed, the solid concrete permanently retains

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the texture and grain of the wood. Exactly. It

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gives a cold industrial material a remarkably

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organic, tactile quality. He used this technique

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for incredibly unique sculptural commissions.

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This includes his best -known project, the Met

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Brewer, formerly the Whitney Museum of American

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Art and... Manhattan, he took concrete and turned

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it into a heavy, expressive art form. Now, building

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these sweeping concrete behemoths couldn't have

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been a one -man job. Who was working in his studio

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during this peak era? That is a vital part of

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his legacy. Breuer was a staunch champion of

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diversity within the architectural profession.

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He actively supported the Council for the Advancement

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of the Negro in Architecture, or ACHIEM. That's

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great to hear. Yes. He specifically employed

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Beverly Lorraine Green, who was recognized as

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the first African -American woman to be licensed

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as an architect in the United States. She worked

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as a draftsperson on a number of his significant

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projects in the 1950s, including the Grosse Pointe

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Public Library. It is excellent to see that kind

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of progressive action within his own studio.

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However, as we move into the later part of his

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career, specifically the late 1960s, the public

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reaction to his work becomes contentious. His

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adoption of heavy, unyielding concrete aligns

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with what became known as brutalism. Yes, brutalism.

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Let's look at the Robert C. Weaver Federal Building,

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the headquarters for the U .S. Department of

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Housing and Urban Development, or HUD, in Washington,

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D .C., completed in 1968. As objective observers,

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we simply need to report how this was received

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historically, because the backlash was intense.

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It was polarizing, to put it mildly. While it

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received some initial praise from architectural

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circles, the text notes that it has faced widespread,

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enduring criticism from the people who actually

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work there. What were they saying? Former Secretary

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of HUD Jack Kemp once famously described the

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building as 10 floors of basement. Yeah. Another

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former secretary, Sean Donovan, stated bluntly

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that the building is among the most vile in all

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of Washington, and with good reason. Many critics

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argued the design was unoriginal, essentially

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mimicking his previous work on the UNESCO headquarters

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without adapting to the specific environment

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of D .C. Ten floors of basement is a staggering

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critique. But 1968 was a wild year for him, full

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of extreme highs and crushing lows. If we connect

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this to the bigger picture, the irony of 1968

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is truly profound. In the exact same year that

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Breuer is awarded the gold medal of the American

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Institute of Architects, which is their highest

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honor, awarded at their 100th annual convention,

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he is simultaneously facing a tidal wave of public

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outrage in New York City. What triggered the

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outrage in New York? He proposed building a multi

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-story modern office tower directly on top of

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Grand Central Terminal. On top of one of the

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most beloved historic buildings in the country?

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Yes. It was a proposition that galvanized the

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public and preservationists against him. The

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tower was never built, and proposing it cost

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Breuer many friends and supporters. But the historical

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impact of that specific failure cannot be overstated.

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The fight over his Grand Central design went

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all the way to the U .S. Supreme Court. Its defeat

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there was a landmark victory that legally established

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the right of New York, and subsequently other

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cities, to protect their historic buildings from

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development. Breuer's unbuilt tower accidentally

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birthed the modern historic preservation movement.

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So what does this all mean? When you look back

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at his life from 1902 to his death in Manhattan

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in 1981, it is a staggering journey. His trajectory

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is a perfect reflection of the 20th century itself.

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He synthesized the genius around him. During

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his life, he rarely acknowledged the influence

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of other architects, but you can see he picked

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up the use of rough board formed concrete from

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the Corbusier and the noble dignity of Mies van

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der Rohe's Barcelona Pavilion is alive in his

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residential work. Shortly before he died, he

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told an interviewer that he considered his principal

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contribution to be the adaptation of the work

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of older architects to the needs of modern society.

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He was the great translator of modernism. And

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his cultural relevance hasn't faded. His legacy

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continues to surface in unexpected ways. For

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instance, Breuer was a partial inspiration for

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the character of Laszlo Toth in Brady Corbett's

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recent film The Brutalist. If you watch the film,

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several of the character's furniture designs

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are highly reminiscent of Breuer's actual work,

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like the tubular steel chairs and a long chair.

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He remains in our cultural bloodstream. Which

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leaves us with a fascinating dynamic to consider.

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Architecture is arguably the only art form you

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truly cannot escape. It sits right in the middle

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of our daily lives, imposing itself on our commute,

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our workspaces, our homes. Public aesthetic tastes

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inevitably swing like a pendulum over the decades.

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What is considered a masterpiece today might

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be an eyesore tomorrow and vice versa. That is

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a brilliant point. So here's a final thought

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for you to mull over. How should society handle

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the massive, unyielding, concrete, brutalist

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structures of the past? Knowing how fiercely

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tastes change over a generation, will the buildings

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currently dismissed as reviled or described as

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ten floors of basement eventually become the

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fiercely protected, irreplaceable historic landmarks

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of tomorrow? is something to think about the

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next time you walk past a heavy concrete facade

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in your city. Thank you so much for joining us

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on this deep dive into the extraordinary life

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and work of Marcel Breuer. We'll see you next

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time.
