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Imagine standing next to an animal whose shoulder

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is, well, taller than a single -story house.

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Which is already pretty hard to picture. Right.

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Now picture that same creature carrying highly

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modified teeth tusks. Really that way as much

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as the grand piano. It sounds completely made

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up. It sounds exactly like something out of a

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science fiction movie. Or, you know, maybe a

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fantasy novel. But it was very, very real. Welcome

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to today's deep dive into the source material.

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Yes, welcome. Today we are putting a magnifying

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glass on one of the most astonishing creatures

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to ever walk the earth. And we have a fascinating

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single source for you today. A really comprehensive

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Wikipedia article. Exactly. On a behemoth known

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as Mamet Borsoni. Or Borson's mastodon. And our

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mission for you today is threefold. Yep. First,

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we're going to explore the sheer, unbelievable

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scale of this animal. Then we're going to figure

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out why scientists insist on putting its name

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in quotation marks. And finally, we'll reconstruct

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exactly what the world looked like when it was

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alive. Because it is completely understandable

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if your mind immediately went to woolly mammoths

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or modern African elephants when you heard those

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dimensions. We all have that baseline. We do.

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But what we're looking at today is an incredible,

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often entirely overlooked chapter in Earth's

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history. Borson's mastodon isn't just another

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extinct elephant relative. Far from it. It's

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a creature that fundamentally challenges our

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understanding of mammalian evolution, physical

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scale, and how entirely different species can

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end up looking remarkably similar. It really

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rewards the curiosity of anyone willing to look

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past the famous Ice Age megafauna we all know

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so well. Absolutely. Okay, so let's unpack this

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sheer scale, because the numbers here are genuinely

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hard to wrap your head around. They really are.

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When we talk about mammoth borsoni, we are talking

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about a true titan. I know our source highlights

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some specific fossil sites, particularly in northern

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Greece, that give us a clear picture of just

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how big these animals got. Give us the raw measurements.

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What are we actually dealing with here? Right.

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So based on partial skeletons found in a Greek

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village called Melia, scientists estimate that

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fully grown males of this species reach shoulder

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heights of up to 4 .1 meters. Wow. That is about

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13 .5 feet straight up in the air. That is staggering.

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And as for the weight, conservative estimates

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put them around 16 tons, or roughly 35 ,000 pounds.

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To put that into perspective for everyone listening,

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you would need to stack roughly eight average

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-sized passenger cars on a giant scale to match

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the weight of just one of these males. Just one.

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How does that compare to the giants we are more

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familiar with? At 16 tons, it is significantly

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heavier and taller than any modern elephant species.

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Right. It also completely dwarfs the famous American

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mastodon, which is what most people picture when

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they hear the word mastodon. Sure. These estimates

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actually put Borson's mastodon in the running

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for the title of the largest land mammal to have

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ever lived anywhere on Earth. The largest ever.

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Yeah. For a very long time, that undisputed heavyweight

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title belonged to Paraceratherium. The giant

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rhino. Exactly, the towering hornless rhinoceros

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from ancient Asia. But the discoveries in Greece

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suggest Borson's mastodon was right there in

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the exact same weight class, battling for the

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top spot. We haven't even talked about the most

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shocking detail yet. I'm looking at the notes

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on its tusks, and frankly, the physics of this

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don't even seem possible. Just how extreme were

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these modifications? We are talking about the

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longest known tusks of any animal ever discovered.

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The longest ever? Ever. One preserved tusk from

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a... probable male specimen found at that same

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site in Greece measured 5 .02 meters in length.

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5 .02 meters. That is 16 .5 feet of solid ivory.

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That's insane. A single tusk of that size would

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have an estimated life mass of around 137 kilograms

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or 302 pounds. That means you have over 600 pounds

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of dead weight hanging off the front of this

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animal's skull, just in tusks alone. Just imagine

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trying to navigate a dense European forest with

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two 16 -foot surfboards strapped to your face.

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It wouldn't be easy. The turning radius must

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have been absolutely terrible. If you get spooked

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by something, you can't exactly just whip your

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head around without taking out three trees. The

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mechanics of simply moving through a landscape

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would have dictated its entire lifestyle. Think

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about the immense, hyper -developed neck and

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shoulder strength required just to lift its head

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off the ground to walk. Just to take a step.

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Exactly, let alone to use those tusks to interact

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with its environment or fight rivals. The muscular

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architecture of a its front half must have been

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incredibly bulky. Like a massive biological counterweight

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to keep the animal from just tipping forward.

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Precisely. So with tusks that massive. I have

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to wonder, was every single one of these animals

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walking around carrying 600 pounds of ivory on

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his face or did that vary? Oh, it definitely

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varied. We see a drastic level of sexual dimorphism

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here. Meaning the males and females looked incredibly

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different. Right. In 1958, a fully grown skeleton

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was excavated from a sinkhole near Kaltensteinheim

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in central Germany. Because of its proportions,

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scientists determined it was a female. She had

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a shoulder height of about 3 .2 meters, so roughly

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10 .5 feet, and weighed an estimated 7 .8 tons.

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Wow. So a fully grown female. was literally half

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the size of the males. Basically half, yeah.

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That is an extreme difference. I mean, a nearly

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8 -ton female is still a massive animal by any

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modern standard. Predestinately. That's roughly

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the size of a very large modern African bull

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elephant. But next to a 16 -ton male of her own

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species, she would have looked remarkably smaller.

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And females also likely had much smaller tusks,

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which mirrors the dynamic we see in modern elephants

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today. Makes sense. They didn't need the extreme,

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exaggerated weaponry that males use for dominance

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displays or combat, which probably made foraging

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in those dense forests a bit easier for them.

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I bet. Nellie. Here's where it gets really interesting,

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though. If you look at the title of our source

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or any formal scientific paper mentioning this

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animal, the word mammoth is always, always written

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in quotation marks. Yes, the famous quotation

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marks. It's this glaring grammatical anomaly

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in the middle of formal scientific classification.

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Why are scientists essentially using air quotes

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when they talk about this titan? To understand

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the quotation marks, we have to look back at

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the history of how this animal was named and

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the intense debates it sparked. Okay, take us

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back. The story starts in 1834. An American naturalist

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named Isaac Hayes described a fossilized tooth

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discovered in Italy. He named it Mastodon borsoni,

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honoring Professor Stefano Borson, who had originally

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studied the tooth. But as paleontology advanced

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over the decades, scientists tried to organize

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these ancient creatures into proper branching

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evolutionary family trees. That's when things

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got incredibly complicated. Because over the

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years, experts argued fiercely about where this

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giant belonged. Some argued it was clearly a

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species of mammut. Yes. But there's a massive

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geographic problem with putting it in the mammut

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genus, isn't there? That's exactly the problem.

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The type species for the genus mammut is the

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American mastodon. Which lived exclusively in

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North America. Exactly. So putting Forsen's mastodon

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in the exact same genus implies a massive intercontinental

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migration. Either the ancestors of the American

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mastodon marched from Eurasia over to North America

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or vice versa. Did they? Some historical scientists

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really champion this idea, but there is absolutely

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zero fossil evidence to support a migration of

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mammoth across the Bering Strait land bridge.

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So if they didn't march across continents, how

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do we end up with two animals on opposite sides

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of the planet that looks so incredibly similar

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that scientists initially insisted on giving

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them the exact same name? This brings us to a

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beautiful concept in evolutionary biology called

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parallel evolution. Parallel evolution. Right.

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The similarities between the North American mastodons

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and the Eurasian mammoth borsoni. aren't because

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they are direct, immediate siblings. They independently

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evolved similar traits from a much older, shared

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ancestor. In this case, that shared ancestor

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is likely a preacher called Xigalophon Turicensis.

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Xigalophon Turicensis. Exactly. The two lineages

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split and were separated for millions of years.

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But because both Brimsk were facing similar environmental

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pressures on their respective continents browsing

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in dense forests, supporting massive body weights,

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They essentially found the exact same evolutionary

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solutions completely independent of one another.

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That's like two different chefs on completely

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opposite sides of the world independently inventing

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the exact same recipe for chocolate cake. That's

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a great way to put it. They taste the same, they

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look the same, but their kitchens have completely

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different origins. And the scientific community

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recognized this issue. If they officially grouped

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them together in the genus mammoth, it would

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ruin the evolutionary family tree. It would make

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it inaccurate. It would create what's called

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a polyphaletic group. Think of it like putting

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a shark and a dolphin in the same biological

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family folder, just because they both have fins

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and swim in the ocean. Oh, I see. They look similar

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on the outside. But their evolutionary blueprints

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are completely different. The quotation marks

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are the scientific community's way of saying,

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we know this creature looks exactly like a mammoth,

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but we also know it's technically an evolutionary

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imposter. An imposter. Yes. And until we create

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a perfect new category for it, we're using this

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as a placeholder. So if it's an evolutionary

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imposter, a creature just wearing a mammoth disguise,

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does its skeleton give away the secret? When

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you look past the sheer size of the animal, What

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do the bones actually tell us about who it really

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was? The skeleton is the dead giveaway. Mammut

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Borsoni is essentially a paleontological Frankenstein's

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monster. Frankenstein's monster. Yes. Its anatomy

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is a bizarre, fascinating mix of its ancient

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ancestors and its parallel cousins. If you look

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at bones like the ulna and radius in the forearm

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or the femur in the thigh, the shapes look incredibly

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similar to the American mastodon. But if you

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look at the humerus in the upper arm or the tibia

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in the lower leg, those bones hold on to the

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primitive shapes of its much older ancestor,

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Zygolophodon. Wow, so it really is a mix and

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match. The source also mentions the bones were

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surprisingly graceful, meaning relatively slender

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for an animal of this size. And there's some

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really weird specifics in the joints too, right?

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Yeah, instead of throwing complex anatomical

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jargon around, think about your own elbow. All

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right, I'm thinking about it. Now imagine the

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bony tip of your elbow projecting out sideways,

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incredibly thick and heavily muscled. That sounds

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painful. Well, for them, that's the kind of highly

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specialized joint modification they needed. It

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was likely to support the sheer weight and mechanical

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stress of its massive front half. We see this

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mix and match anatomy in the skull and jaw as

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well. Like with the cusks. Right. The upper tusks

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completely lack the enamel bands that were present

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in its ancestors. What about the jaws themselves?

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With an animal this big, eating must have been

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a full -time job. Did they have a specialized

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setup for chewing? They apparently lacked permanent

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premolar teeth, which older, more primitive mastodons

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had. And the lower jaw is particularly interesting.

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The frontmost part is relatively short, but the

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weirdest part is the variation. Some individuals

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of Borson's mastodon still retain small, lower

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tusks. Like a second set of tusks. Yeah, that

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German female specimen we talked about had lower

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tusks about six inches long, but other individuals

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seem to have had completely tuskless lower jaws.

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That's wild. It really paints a picture of a

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species in the messy midst of an evolutionary

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transition. Okay, so we've built this colossal

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16 -ton body. with 16 .5 -foot tusks, a mix -and

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-match skeleton, and placeholder quotation marks

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around its name. But what was going on inside

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its head? Do we actually know anything about

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its brain? We do, and it is an extraordinary

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piece of the puzzle. A brain case was discovered

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in Moldova that preserved the internal hollow

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space occupied by the brain. What scientists

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call an endocat. Exactly. When we look at that

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Moldovan brain case, we have to talk about the

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encephalization quotient, or EQ. EQ. Right, EQ

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is a way of measuring brain size relative to...

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to total body mass. Despite this animal weighing

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up to 16 tons, scientists estimate the brain

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of the Moldovan specimen weighed only about 4

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.7 kilograms. Weight. That is roughly 10 pounds.

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10 pounds in a 35 ,000 pound body. Yes. When

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you compare that to modern elephants, Borson's

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mastodon had a significantly lower EQ. Its brain

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was proportionally much, much smaller. That is

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a tiny brain for such a massive animal. It is,

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but smaller doesn't mean useless. The shape of

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the endocast is highly revealing. The areas responsible

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for higher order thinking weren't massive, but

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it shows a prominently developed temporal lobe.

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Okay. Even more striking, the front tips of the

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olfactory bulbs, the part of the brain dedicated

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to processing smells, are clearly visible and

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massive. Huge olfactory bulbs. Yes. In the American

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mastodon, those olfactory bulbs are way less

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prominent. We think of elephants today as highly

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emotional, intelligent creatures that mourn their

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dead, use tools, and solve complex puzzles. But

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this titan was playing a completely different

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evolutionary game, wasn't it? It really was.

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It didn't need a supercomputer for a brain. It

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was an animal deeply, profoundly tied to its

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sense of smell. Fascinating. You have to imagine

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this multi -storied giant moving through ancient

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forests, largely guided by a highly sensitive

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nose, sniffing out specific types of foliage,

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finding water sources in droughts, and locating

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mates across vast distances. So it wasn't solving

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puzzles. No, it survived for millions. of years

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by being the biggest, heaviest, best smelling

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tank in the forest. It interpreted its massive

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world through a sophisticated chemical landscape

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of sense rather than relying purely on complex

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problem solving. And what a world it was. Let's

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map out the neighborhood this giant lived in.

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Where exactly did this biological tank roam and

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for how long? Its domain was vast. Fossils have

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been found everywhere from the Iberian Peninsula

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in Western Europe all the way across to Greece,

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Ukraine, Turkey, and even as far east as Shaanxi

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in northern China. So practically across the

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entire Eurasian landmass. Pretty much. It spanned

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an incredible stretch of time, roaming from the

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late Miocene around 9 to 7 million years ago,

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all the way to the early Pleistocene roughly

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2 to 2 .5 million years ago. A run of up to 7

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million years is hugely successful. for any species.

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To fuel a 16 -ton body for that many millions

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of years, what exactly were they eating? Scientists

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used techniques like dental microware, looking

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at the microscopic scratches left on fossilized

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teeth, as well as isotopic analysis of the bones.

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And what did they find? These techniques revealed

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that mammut bursonia was a dedicated browser.

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It wasn't grazing on tough ground grasses like

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a modern cow. It was using its immense height

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to access leaves, twigs, and woody plants in

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the canopies of... temperate Pliocene forests.

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Now, I want everyone to picture the daily life

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of this browsing titan. It wasn't alone in those

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temperate European forests. What else was walking

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around in this neighborhood? It sounds like an

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ancient, surreal safari. Picture this 16 -ton

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giant casually stripping an entire massive branch

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of its leaves. Walking through the underbrush

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nearby is an ancient tapir. The tapir. There's

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a bizarre extinct species of rhinoceros called

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Stephanorhinus sharing the clearings. Wow. If

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you look up into the trees our mastodon is eating

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from, you might see a species of monkey called

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Mesopithecus. Monkeys, rhinos, and tapirs in

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places like modern -day France, Germany, or Greece.

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It's completely wild. But it wasn't just a peaceful

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herbivore paradise, was it? What were the predators

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like? The predator dynamics in this ecosystem

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were intense. Sharing those same forests were

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giant cheetahs, Essononix pardinensis, and a

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fearsome saber -toothed cat called Homotherium.

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Giant cheetahs and saber -toothed cats. Now,

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a saber -toothed cat isn't going to take down

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a healthy 16 -ton adult male mastodon. The sheer

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size of Borson's mastodon made adults virtually

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immune to predation. Right, nothing is attacking

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that. But those predators would have absolutely

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targeted the calves or the sick, which means

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the mastodons would have had to be hypervigilant,

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using that incredible sense of smell to detect

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a saber -tooth hiding in the tall brush. And

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they even shared the forest with other giant

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elephant relatives, too. The source mentions

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Anancus, another massive creature with a browsing

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diet. Yes, Anancus was a major part of that world.

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It paints a picture of a vibrant, highly diverse,

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ancient European ecosystem that feels utterly

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alien to us today. Yet, for millions of years,

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this deeply intertwined community of giant mammals

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was a stable reality. It was a functioning, thriving

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world that existed long before humans ever arrived

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on the scene. It was a world of giants that operated

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in a completely different ecological rhythm than

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anything we can observe today. As we wrap up

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this deep dive into the source material, let's

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look back at the key aha moments we've uncovered.

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We started with the sheer mind -bending scale.

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A 16 -ton animal carrying 16 .5 -foot tusks that

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weighed 300 pounds each, requiring insane muscular

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engineering just to walk. Incredible engineering.

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We unraveled the mystery of its quotation mark

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name, discovering how parallel evolution allowed

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two different lineages to independently build

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almost the exact same biological machine on two

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different continents. The evolutionary imposter.

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Exactly. We peeked inside its skull to find a

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relatively tiny 10 -pound brain that prioritized

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a hyper -powerful sense of smell over complex

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intelligence. And we placed it right in the middle

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of a wild ancient Europe filled with giant cheetahs,

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monkeys, and saber -toothed cats. Synthesizing

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all of this raises an important question, one

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that touches on the very nature of history and

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deep time. What's that? We only know that Mamet

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Borsoni existed. We only know that it was perhaps

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the largest land mammal ever to walk the earth

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because of a few scattered teeth, some partial

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skeletons buried in Greek dirt and a single preserved

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brain case in Moldova. Just fragments. That is

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all that remains of an evolutionary dynasty that

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lasted millions of years. It leaves you wondering

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if a creature this massive, this widespread and

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this successful can completely vanish into the

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depths of deep time, leaving behind little more

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than a taxonomic puzzle with quotation marks

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around its name. What massive realities. of our

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current world, what defining giants of our modern

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era might be completely invisible to the scientists

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of the distant future. That is an absolutely

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brilliant thought to leave everyone with today.

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It really puts our own place in the grand timeline

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of Earth into perspective. Thank you so much

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for joining us on this deep dive into the source

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material. We hope you walk away today feeling

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a little more connected to the ancient, giant

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history of our planet. Keep asking questions,

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keep looking at the world with curiosity, and

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keep digging into the fascinating mysteries of

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the past. Catch you on the next deep dive.
