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When you walk through Washington, D .C. today,

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the monuments you see towering over the avenues,

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they feel entirely inevitable. Right, like they

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were just always meant to be there. Exactly.

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We tend to look at them and think, well, of course

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that's there. It's set in stone. Literally. Yeah.

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But the monuments that were successfully blocked,

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the ones that never made it off the drafting

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table, they often tell us much more about the

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actual fabric of American history. Oh, absolutely.

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The empty spaces. Right. So today we're taking

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you on a deep dive into a nearly forgotten yet

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deeply, deeply significant chapter. It's about

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a monument that almost radically altered the

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landscape of the nation's capital. It's a fascinating

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look at a legislative battle that almost nobody

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talks about today. No, they really don't. And

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we're focusing not on what was built, but what

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was built. wasn't. And to do this, we're pulling

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from a really compelling stack of archival materials.

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We're looking at a comprehensive Wikipedia article

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detailing the proposed, quote unquote, Mammy

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Memorial. And this synthesizes historical newspaper

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archives, things like the Chicago Tribune and

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the New York World. Right. Alongside official

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congressional records. Exactly. So we have a

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really solid documentary foundation for this

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deep dive. We do. And. Because this text dives

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into intensely charged racial and political themes

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from the 1920s, We want to be clear up front

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about our approach today. Yeah, that's important.

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We're here purely as your guides through this

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historical archive. We are looking impartially

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at how this event unfolded in the historical

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record without taking sides, endorsing any viewpoints,

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or injecting modern judgment. Right. Our goal

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is simply to unpack the mechanics of how this

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massive public relations and legislative battle

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was fought exactly as it was documented a century

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ago. Okay, let's unpack this. To understand how

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this almost became a permanent bronze fixture

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in the Capitol, we actually have to rewind more

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than a decade before the major legislative push.

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Yeah, the timeline on this is longer than you'd

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think. It really is. The chronological journey

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doesn't begin in the roaring 20s. The initial

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spark first surfaced in print back in May of

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1910. 1910. Wow. Yeah. There was an article published

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in the Chicago Tribune by a writer named Hollis

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Field. And reading through the archives, you

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know, this wasn't just a fleeting thought piece

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or like a what if scenario. It had actual momentum.

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It did. An actual organization formed around

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this concept. They were called the Mamie Memorial

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Institute and they were based out of Athens,

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Georgia. And they were actively seeking public

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donations to fund a physical national monument.

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Right. And we need to clearly define the specific

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purpose of the monument they were trying to fund

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here. The stated goal of this institute was to

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erect a memorial honoring enslaved African domestic

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workers of the antebellum South. Right. Or who

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were referred to pejoratively as mammies. Yeah.

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The movement to build this was fundamentally

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an attempt to take that specific caricature,

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that highly romanticized memory of the antebellum

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period, and solidify it into a permanent national

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structure. Wait, so. How does an idea generated

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by a local institute in Athens, Georgia in 1910

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gather enough momentum to become a serious proposition

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for the landscape of Washington, D .C.? It's

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a massive leap. Because by 1923, this wasn't

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just a localized Southern effort anymore. It

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wasn't at all. It had reached the highest levels

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of the United States government. The political

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push became highly organized and incredibly serious.

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By 1923, Mississippi Senator John Sharp Williams

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introduced a formal bill in Congress for the

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monument's construction. And this legislation

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had serious institutional weight behind it. It

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was backed by the United Daughters of the Confederacy.

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The UDC. Exactly. That is a massive detail. I

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mean, they weren't just a small historical society.

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They were an absolute powerhouse at the time

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when it came to shaping public memory and lobbying

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for monuments, weren't they? Absolutely. Having

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their backing was a prerequisite for moving something

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like this from a regional idea to a national

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priority. But the archival record reveals something

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even more striking about the political reception

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of this bill. When Congressman Charles Manley

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Stedman of North Carolina made a passionate speech

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on the floor of the U .S. House of Representatives

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in favor of constructing this monument. The congressional

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records actually note. that his speech was cheered.

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Wow. And not just by a faction of his own party.

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It was cheered by representatives of both the

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Republican and Democratic parties. That is a

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remarkable image to visualize. You have this

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sweeping bipartisan applause echoing in the House

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of Representatives for a monument dedicated to

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a pejorative caricature of enslaved women. It

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really is. And the bipartisan cheering reveals

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something crucial for you to understand about

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1923 Washington. The romanticization of the Confederacy

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in the Antebellum South wasn't just a localized

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Southern project anymore. At that specific moment,

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it had been wholly embraced by the national political

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establishment. It had gone mainstream. Exactly.

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It was a mainstream political proposition moving

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through the legislative process with massive

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tailwinds. With that kind of overwhelming bipartisan

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support, it probably seemed like a done deal

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to a lot of people. Oh, absolutely. And here's

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where it gets really interesting. Because they

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were already treating it like one. This wasn't

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just abstract legislation floating around a committee

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room somewhere. No, it was tangible. The physical

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reality of the proposed memorial was already

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taking shape in art studios. The United Daughters

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of the Confederacy were actively soliciting and

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receiving design proposals from sculptors and

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architects to win this really high profile commission.

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And when you look at the artists involved, it

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shows how seriously the art world was taking

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this commission. Right. The texts highlight two

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specific sculptors who were deeply involved in

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the design phase. First, there was a Canadian

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-American sculptor named Ulrich Stonewall Jackson

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Dunbar. And he wasn't just sketching ideas on

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a napkin. The records indicate that by June of

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1923, Dunbar had already created a physical maquette.

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of his proposal. Which means he was incredibly

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far along in the process. He already had a physical,

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small -scale, three -dimensional model of this

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monument sitting right there in his studio, just

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waiting for the green light to be scaled up and

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cast in bronze. Exactly. It brings the reality

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of the monument very close to the finish line.

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But Dunbar was competing against another highly

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notable name, George Julian Zolney. And his background

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provides a fascinating juxtaposition for this

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specific project. Oh, yeah. Zolney was an immigrant.

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He was a Romanian and Hungarian -American. I

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have to pause you there. How does an Eastern

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European immigrant, who presumably has zero familial

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connection to the antebellum South, end up as

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the premier sculptor for a Confederate -backed

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monument? It's one of those brilliant, ironic

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details you only find in the historical archives.

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Despite his Eastern European roots, Zolny had

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earned a very specific, highly lucrative title.

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What was it? He was known as the sculptor of

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the Confederacy. You're kidding. No. And he earned

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that moniker purely through market demand. He

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had successfully undertaken numerous commissions

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of Confederate subjects on behalf of wealthy

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Southern clients. Wow. So he had a proven track

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record of delivering exactly what this specific

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demographic wanted. OK, so the gears are fully

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in motion. You have the public donations, the

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powerful lobbying from the UDC, the bipartisan

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cheers in the House of Representatives and establish

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highly regarded sculptors with physical models

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already built. It's all lined up. If you stopped

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reading the history right there in the summer

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of 1923, the construction of this monument. feels

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entirely inevitable. Absolutely. But of course,

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as we established at the beginning of our deep

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dive, if you go to Washington, D .C. today, it

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isn't there. Right. So we have to look at what

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happened next, which was an immediate, intense,

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and incredibly fierce pushback. Yes. As soon

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as the momentum behind this proposed monument

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became public knowledge, it hit an absolute wall

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of condemnation. A brick wall. The coalition

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that formed to oppose it was diverse, highly

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vocal, and incredibly strategic. The texts note

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that it was immediately condemned by African

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-Americans nationwide, but they were joined by

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other organized groups. For instance, the Women's

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Relief Corps, the Grand Army of the Republic,

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stood in firm opposition. And for context for

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you listening, the Grand Army of the Republic

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was the primary organization for Union Civil

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War veterans, making the Women's Relief Corps

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their official auxiliary. So you even have the

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descendants and families of Union veterans stepping

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into the fray to block this. And they didn't

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just quietly disagree in private meetings. No,

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they did not. The way this opposition utilized

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the media is a masterclass in 1920s grassroots

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organizing. It really is. They took the fight

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directly to the pages of the biggest papers of

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the day. Major media outlets joined the opposition,

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notably the New York World newspaper, which publicly

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condemned the project. But one of the most prominent

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individual voices in this media pushback was

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Mary Church Terrell. Right. She wrote an editorial

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condemning the monument that was published in

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the Washington Evening Star. And the crucial

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detail about Terrell's editorial wasn't just

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that she wrote it, but its reach. The archives

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highlight that this piece was widely circulated.

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It went everywhere. Yet it wasn't contained to

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a single local audience. It became a broader

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rallying cry that clearly articulated the deep

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offense of the monument. But the pushback wasn't

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limited to just text and intellectual editorials.

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If you look at the archives of the Chicago Defender

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from that week, they deployed a highly powerful,

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provocative visual campaign as well. Oh, yes.

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The cartoon. Yeah. They published a political

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cartoon that depicted. A white southerner proudly

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presenting the architectural plans for the Mamie

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Monument. Right. But he isn't presenting them

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to a politician or a crowd of supporters. He

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is presenting the plans to the hanging body of

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a lynching victim. That is. That is a remarkably

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heavy image to digest. Yeah. It violently punctures

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the polite, sterilized rhetoric that was happening

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on the floor of the House of Representatives.

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It strips away all the political theater, doesn't

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it? It absolutely does. What's fascinating here

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is how effectively that single image cuts to

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the core of the opposition's argument. It contrasts

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the fabricated, romanticized fantasy of the antebellum

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South with the visceral, horrific reality of

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the racial violence that black Americans were

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facing. Right then in 1923. Exactly. When you

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break down the historical commentary from the

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opposition during this time, they were attacking

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the memorial from two very distinct angles. So

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they had a two -pronged strategy. What were the

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specific arguments? The first argument was deeply

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ideological. Right. They argued the memorial

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was inherently objectionable. It was an offensive

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caricature designed to celebrate an institution

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of slavery. Right. But the second argument was

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purely pragmatic, focusing on economics. Oh.

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Interesting. Yeah. Commentators pointed out that

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building a massive national bronze monument is

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an incredibly expensive endeavor. They argued

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it was a massive waste of public and private

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funds. And more importantly, they argued that

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those funds could and should be better utilized

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to actively improve the lives of living black

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people rather than pouring money into stone to

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honor a fabricated memory. It's such a sharp.

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undeniable critique. You have all this capital

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to build a statue of a myth. But what about the

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actual citizens living right now? Precisely.

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And this outrage, the wide circulation of Terrell's

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editorial, the visceral cartoons in the Chicago

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Defender, the pragmatic economic arguments. It

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didn't just stay in the newspapers as intellectual

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debate. It translated into direct targeted political

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action. Yes. The public mobilize. The mobilization

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was incredibly focused. The opposition recognized

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that simply being angry in the press wasn't enough

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to stop a bill with bipartisan support. They

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had to apply pressure directly to legislative

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leadership. Right. The archives detail how letters

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and petitions began to absolutely flood the desks

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of top politicians in Washington. And they aimed

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right for the top. We're not just talking about

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angry letters to local lower level representatives.

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No, they targeted the highest levels of the executive

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and legislative branches. The records emphasize

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a staggering. logistical achievement for this

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pressure campaign. Petitions were sent directly

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to Vice President Calvin Coolidge, as well as

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to the Speaker of the House, Frederick H. Gillett.

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Wow. And the text specifically notes that these

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petitions carry the signatures of 2 ,000 black

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women. Let's just pause and think about the sheer

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logistical effort required to pull that off in

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1923. It's monumental. Two thousand individual

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signatures from black women gathered, bundled

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and delivered directly to the vice president's

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desk. There is no Internet. There are no social

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media campaigns or email blasts. No, it's all

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analog. That is pure ground level coordination,

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knocking on doors, organizing through local networks

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and ensuring those physical pages made it to

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the most powerful desks in the country. It is

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a profound testament to the power of organized

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civic action. They built an undeniable political

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force. And we see the direct result of that intense

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pressure in the archives. The outcome is definitive.

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The controversy surrounding the monument became

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so immense and the public outcry so organized

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and targeted that the political will to pass

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the legislation simply evaporated. The momentum

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completely flatlines? Yes. The bill was entirely

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dropped. No further action was ever taken on

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it in Congress. The grassroots campaign successfully

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halted the legislation in its tracks. So what

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does this all mean? How does a defeated bill

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from 1923 impact us today? Well, to fully grasp

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the reality of what was avoided, we have to look

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at the physical location where this monument

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was slated to be built. Right. The geography

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of it. The Congressional Archives reveal that

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the proposed site for the Mamie Memorial was

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a highly prominent spot on Massachusetts Avenue.

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Massachusetts Avenue is, of course, a major thoroughfare

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in Washington, D .C., known as Embassy Row, and

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it's heavily populated with significant statues

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and monuments. Yeah, it's a very visible location.

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For decades, the specific spot intended for this

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memorial remained a phantom space, a site defined

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entirely by the legislation that failed to alter

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it. But the historical record provides a fascinating

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postscript to this whole saga. Oh. In 2002, the

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site on Massachusetts Avenue was ultimately filled.

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But obviously not by anything resembling the

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1923 proposal. Correct. The site was filled by

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a completely different monument altogether. It's

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now a statue of Tomáša Garík Masaryk, the first

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president of Czechoslovakia. Wow. What a shift.

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It really is. And if we connect this to the bigger

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picture. Why should you, listening to this right

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now, care about a statue that was never built?

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Why spend time unpacking a ghost monument? It

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is because this history perfectly illustrates

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how public memory is negotiated in real time.

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It shows us that the physical landscape of a

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nation's capital is not an inevitability handed

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down from above. It is the result of continuous

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active struggle. It proves that history isn't

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just a top -down mandate. Exactly. This event

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demonstrates with crystal clarity how organized

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grassroots information campaigns utilizing targeted

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petitions, widely circulated editorials, and

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provocative political cartoons can successfully

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halt the physical altering of public space. It's

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incredibly empowering. The citizens of 1923 prove

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that even when a bill has bipartisan cheers in

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Congress and wealthy backers commissioning scale

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models from famous sculptors, it can be starved

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by the coordinated voices of those who refuse

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to let a false narrative be cast in bronze. It

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really makes you look at every empty park and

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every completed statue in a totally different

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light. Let's do a quick recap of the incredible

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archival journey we just took. We started with

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a fleeting newspaper idea in the Chicago Tribune

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back in 1910. We watched it grow into a fully

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fledged congressional bill introduced in 1923,

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backed by the incredibly powerful United Daughters

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of the Confederacy and cheered by both Republicans

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and Democrats. We saw the maquettes being built

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by the, quote unquote, smelter of the Confederacy.

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and fierce demise of the whole project, brought

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down by an unstoppable coalition of African -American

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citizens, women's groups, and media outlets who

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utilize striking imagery and thousands of physical

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signatures to force the government to drop the

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bill entirely. This raises an important question.

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If a prominent spot on Massachusetts Avenue can

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transition from being the proposed site of a

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1923 Confederate -backed monument to ultimately

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becoming the home of a 2002 statue of a Czechoslovakian

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president, What does the evolving invisible history

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of empty public spaces tell us about the ever

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-changing values of a society over a century?

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The spaces where nothing was built can sometimes

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speak just as loudly as the monuments that stand

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there today. That is such a fascinating thought

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to leave on. Thank you so much for joining us

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on this deep dive into the historical archives

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today. We hope this exploration has given you

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a new perspective on the intricate, often invisible

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legislative and public relations battles that

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shape the cities we walk through. Keep questioning

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the history around you, look closely at the monuments

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that surround you, and maybe even look a little

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closer at the empty spaces too. See you next

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time.
