WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.419
Welcome back. It's so great to have you joining

00:00:03.419 --> 00:00:05.719
us for another deep dive today. Really glad to

00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:09.419
be here. So today we are taking a phrase that,

00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:12.800
I mean, you have probably used a hundred times,

00:00:12.820 --> 00:00:15.179
maybe even today when you were, I don't know,

00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:17.000
leaving a restaurant or heading out to your car.

00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:19.280
Absolutely, yeah. We are looking at the phrase,

00:00:19.620 --> 00:00:22.719
let's roll. And our mission for this deep dive

00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.370
is to basically unpack the incredible... multi

00:00:26.370 --> 00:00:29.329
-layered journey of these two really simple words.

00:00:29.370 --> 00:00:31.850
Two words, yeah. Right, exactly. We are going

00:00:31.850 --> 00:00:35.490
to explore how a completely mundane, everyday

00:00:35.490 --> 00:00:38.890
colloquialism transformed almost overnight into

00:00:38.890 --> 00:00:42.490
one of the defining battle cries and really cultural

00:00:42.490 --> 00:00:45.130
touchstones of the 21st century. Because, you

00:00:45.130 --> 00:00:47.409
know, language is never static. It's this living,

00:00:47.450 --> 00:00:50.009
breathing thing. And the goal today is to look

00:00:50.009 --> 00:00:51.729
at not just when this phrase was used throughout

00:00:51.729 --> 00:00:53.450
history, but why it matters to you and really

00:00:53.450 --> 00:00:55.850
to... All of us. Yeah. When you look closely

00:00:55.850 --> 00:00:57.609
at the source material we are working with today,

00:00:57.689 --> 00:00:59.530
which gives us a really comprehensive historical

00:00:59.530 --> 00:01:01.990
and cultural breakdown of the phrase, you see

00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:04.349
how language actually acts as a mirror. It really

00:01:04.349 --> 00:01:07.629
does. Right. It reflects a society's resilience,

00:01:08.150 --> 00:01:12.370
its collective grief, its shifting culture, its

00:01:12.370 --> 00:01:15.829
history. We are essentially tracing the life

00:01:15.829 --> 00:01:18.549
cycle of an idiom today. OK, let's unpack this.

00:01:18.629 --> 00:01:20.790
Yeah. Because the central premise here is that.

00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:23.599
A phrase we just casually toss around has this

00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.939
hidden, heavy, and incredibly profound history.

00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.299
It perfectly illustrates how human events basically

00:01:31.299 --> 00:01:34.319
force language to evolve. Now, going into this,

00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:36.620
I assume the phrase was a product of maybe the,

00:01:36.659 --> 00:01:39.319
I don't know, the 1980s or 90s action movies.

00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:40.680
Well, that's what most people think, yeah. But

00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:42.859
it goes back way further than that. How did this

00:01:42.859 --> 00:01:44.819
actually start? So you have to picture the American

00:01:44.819 --> 00:01:47.959
West in the 1800s. You had these massive wagon

00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.120
trains getting ready to cross the frontier right.

00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:52.680
The leaders at the head of the train would literally

00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.280
shout wagons roll to get the journey start. I

00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:57.840
mean, think about the actual mechanics of the

00:01:57.840 --> 00:01:59.959
time. The wheels had to physically literally

00:01:59.959 --> 00:02:03.180
roll to move that immense weight forward to get

00:02:03.180 --> 00:02:05.420
through the mud and dirt. Exactly. It was all

00:02:05.420 --> 00:02:07.840
about overcoming physical inertia. Yeah. And

00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.280
from there. The terminology naturally became

00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:12.560
a bit less formal. People shortened it. They

00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.599
adapted it. That's really the beginning of the

00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:17.520
transition from a literal command about wooden

00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.099
wheels to a metaphorical command about starting

00:02:20.099 --> 00:02:22.300
a collective mission. So we start with wagons

00:02:22.300 --> 00:02:25.639
pushing across the frontier. How does it make

00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.979
the leap from pioneers into the broader cultural

00:02:28.979 --> 00:02:31.479
lexicon? Did people just start using it in cities?

00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.460
It actually sneaks into the broader culture through

00:02:34.460 --> 00:02:36.719
the military first. Yeah. And then through fiction.

00:02:36.900 --> 00:02:40.639
Oh, interesting. Yeah. As early as 1908, the

00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.139
phrase pops up in a military cadence song. It's

00:02:43.139 --> 00:02:45.520
the one we now know as the army goes rolling

00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.819
along. Oh, sure. I know that one. Right. And

00:02:47.819 --> 00:02:50.060
the sources note that this usage likely extended

00:02:50.060 --> 00:02:52.319
into how early tank crews and artillery units

00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.229
communicated with each other. A great example

00:02:55.229 --> 00:02:57.310
of this is the phrase's connection to the role

00:02:57.310 --> 00:02:59.050
of the caissons. Okay, let's pause there for

00:02:59.050 --> 00:03:01.229
a second because I think a lot of people, when

00:03:01.229 --> 00:03:02.969
they hear the word caisson, they picture something

00:03:02.969 --> 00:03:05.669
vaguely military but might not know exactly what

00:03:05.669 --> 00:03:08.009
it is. Right, a caisson is essentially a highly

00:03:08.009 --> 00:03:10.930
reinforced chest on wheels. It's used to carry

00:03:10.930 --> 00:03:13.330
artillery ammunition. Got it. So when you are

00:03:13.330 --> 00:03:16.009
moving heavy, dangerous... explosive equipment

00:03:16.009 --> 00:03:19.250
with horses or early trucks, rolling isn't just

00:03:19.250 --> 00:03:21.729
about simple movement. It's life or death. Exactly.

00:03:21.870 --> 00:03:24.689
It's about keeping a massive, unstoppable rhythm

00:03:24.689 --> 00:03:28.629
going across a chaotic battlefield. That unstoppable

00:03:28.629 --> 00:03:32.409
momentum is the core DNA of the phrase. Which

00:03:32.409 --> 00:03:34.669
explains why writers who focused on military

00:03:34.669 --> 00:03:37.330
or gritty subjects picked it up later on. You

00:03:37.330 --> 00:03:39.469
see it bleed into fiction around the mid -20th

00:03:39.469 --> 00:03:42.560
century, right? Precisely. In 1940, the legendary

00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:45.419
sci -fi writer Robert A. Heinlein wrote a story

00:03:45.419 --> 00:03:47.900
called The Roads Must Roll. Classic. Yeah, and

00:03:47.900 --> 00:03:50.060
in that story, he references a reworded version

00:03:50.060 --> 00:03:53.000
of those old military cadences, calling it the

00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.919
road songs of the transport cadets. Then a decade

00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.539
later, in 1950, Ernest Hemingway adopts it. And

00:03:58.539 --> 00:04:00.340
Neymar, of course. Right in his novel Across

00:04:00.340 --> 00:04:02.580
the River and Into the Trees, the protagonist

00:04:02.580 --> 00:04:05.620
is Colonel Dick Cantwell. Now, Cantwell was actually

00:04:05.620 --> 00:04:07.560
based on a real World War II commander named

00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.340
Charles Buck Lanham. Hemingway has Cantwell use

00:04:10.340 --> 00:04:14.060
the phrase, let's roll. when giving a direct

00:04:14.060 --> 00:04:16.620
no -nonsense command to his driver. Having a

00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:18.839
gritty, battle -hardened Hemingway character

00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.920
use it really solidifies the phrase association

00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.759
with moving forward with serious purpose. And

00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:27.220
it anchors it. Yeah, but what is so wild about

00:04:27.220 --> 00:04:29.620
the timeline is that while the military and these

00:04:29.620 --> 00:04:32.160
intense literary figures were using it with all

00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:34.759
this gravity, everyday industries and pop culture,

00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.600
were adapting it for entirely different, much

00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.120
lighter reasons. Yeah, mid -century American

00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.420
culture was becoming completely obsessed with...

00:04:42.569 --> 00:04:45.149
speed industry, and forward momentum. You start

00:04:45.149 --> 00:04:47.529
to see military jargon turn into upper -class

00:04:47.529 --> 00:04:49.930
slang. Give me an example of that. A perfect

00:04:49.930 --> 00:04:52.670
example is the 1937 supernatural comedy film

00:04:52.670 --> 00:04:55.389
Topper. Okay. You have Cary Grant playing this

00:04:55.389 --> 00:04:57.810
suave protagonist. He turns to his wife, played

00:04:57.810 --> 00:05:00.689
by Constance Bennett, and says, let's roll. He

00:05:00.689 --> 00:05:02.910
isn't commanding a tank or starting a wagon train.

00:05:03.050 --> 00:05:05.129
He just wants to indicate that they should immediately

00:05:05.129 --> 00:05:08.029
escape their friend's incredibly stuffy office

00:05:08.029 --> 00:05:10.449
and go find a cocktail. That is the ultimate

00:05:10.449 --> 00:05:13.009
contrast. And it wasn't just actors saying it

00:05:13.009 --> 00:05:14.790
on screen, right? It was happening behind the

00:05:14.790 --> 00:05:17.310
camera, too. Right. The whole industry. The entire

00:05:17.310 --> 00:05:20.230
film and audio recording industry adopted the

00:05:20.230 --> 00:05:23.329
verb roll to signal the beginning of a recording.

00:05:23.490 --> 00:05:26.589
I mean, you hear directors shout rolling on movie

00:05:26.589 --> 00:05:29.589
sets to this very day. If we connect this to

00:05:29.589 --> 00:05:31.829
the bigger picture, whether it is Cary Grant

00:05:31.829 --> 00:05:33.990
trying to get a drink, an audio engineer starting

00:05:33.990 --> 00:05:36.569
a tape reel, or a tank commander moving out.

00:05:36.910 --> 00:05:39.430
The word inherently implies that a state of rest

00:05:39.430 --> 00:05:43.350
is ending. Action is beginning. That built -in

00:05:43.350 --> 00:05:45.850
subconscious meaning of collective action is

00:05:45.850 --> 00:05:49.029
exactly what made it the perfect vehicle for

00:05:49.029 --> 00:05:51.170
the much heavier meaning it would take on decades

00:05:51.170 --> 00:05:54.209
later. Which brings us to September 11th, 2001.

00:05:54.610 --> 00:05:56.889
And I want to shift the tone here because the

00:05:56.889 --> 00:05:59.389
events we are about to discuss are incredibly

00:05:59.389 --> 00:06:02.769
heavy. But they also represent a story of unimaginable

00:06:02.769 --> 00:06:05.089
courage. They absolutely do. We are looking at

00:06:05.089 --> 00:06:07.110
the events aboard the hijacked United Airlines

00:06:07.110 --> 00:06:09.970
Flight 93. This is the defining moment. It changed

00:06:09.970 --> 00:06:12.209
not just the country, but how this specific phrase

00:06:12.209 --> 00:06:14.250
will be remembered for the rest of history. When

00:06:14.250 --> 00:06:16.389
you look at the events of that morning passenger,

00:06:16.670 --> 00:06:19.420
Todd Beamer was on that flight. In the midst

00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:22.759
of this terrifying, chaotic situation, he tries

00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.779
to place a call to his family using one of the

00:06:25.779 --> 00:06:28.000
seat back earphones. Right. But the phone system

00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.819
is so overwhelmed or he misstyles in the stress

00:06:30.819 --> 00:06:33.980
of the moment and the call doesn't go where he

00:06:33.980 --> 00:06:37.279
expects. He actually gets routed to a customer

00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:40.139
service representative first, who then passes

00:06:40.139 --> 00:06:42.759
him on to a supervisor in Chicago named Lisa

00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.160
Jefferson. Put yourself in Lisa Jefferson's shoes

00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.540
for a moment. You are sitting at a customer service

00:06:47.540 --> 00:06:50.079
desk. And suddenly you are on the line with an

00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.199
ordinary citizen who is communicating vital real

00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.399
time intelligence during a completely unprecedented

00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.480
national crisis. And Beamer remains incredibly

00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.220
clear headed as he gathers and reports this intel.

00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:04.600
He tells Jefferson that one passenger has already

00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.480
been killed. He relays that a flight attendant

00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.740
informed him both the pilot and the co -pilot

00:07:08.740 --> 00:07:10.639
had been forced from the cockpit and that they

00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.699
might be gravely injured. Just horrifying to

00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:14.899
hear. He is on the phone with Jefferson narrating

00:07:14.899 --> 00:07:16.879
the events when the plane makes a quick, violent

00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:19.959
turn. He is experiencing the hijacking in real

00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:22.879
time, effectively acting as the eyes and ears

00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.240
for the ground at a moment when the entire nation's

00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:29.100
airspace was in total confusion. Crucially, the

00:07:29.100 --> 00:07:31.980
passengers on Flight 93 were communicating with

00:07:31.980 --> 00:07:33.879
people on the ground, so they eventually learned

00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.500
about what had happened at the World Trade Center

00:07:35.500 --> 00:07:37.860
and the Pentagon. They pieced the puzzle together.

00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:40.360
They did. They realized this wasn't a traditional

00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.220
hostage situation where the plane would just

00:07:42.220 --> 00:07:44.100
land at an airport and demands would be made.

00:07:44.420 --> 00:07:47.339
They realized it was a suicide mission. Beamer

00:07:47.339 --> 00:07:49.740
tells the operator that he and some of the other

00:07:49.740 --> 00:07:52.800
passengers are formulating a plan. They're going

00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.480
to attack the hijackers and try to regain control

00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:57.709
of the aircraft. It is an extraordinary. an air

00:07:57.709 --> 00:08:00.230
pivot. They recognize the terrible reality of

00:08:00.230 --> 00:08:02.649
their situation, and they make a collective,

00:08:02.750 --> 00:08:05.470
immediate decision to fight back to save the

00:08:05.470 --> 00:08:08.110
lives of unknown people on the ground. The moment

00:08:08.110 --> 00:08:10.649
of action arrives. According to Lisa Jefferson,

00:08:10.790 --> 00:08:12.829
the supervisor on the other end of that air phone,

00:08:13.129 --> 00:08:16.149
Todd Beamer's last audible words before dropping

00:08:16.149 --> 00:08:19.430
the phone to storm the cockpit were, are you

00:08:19.430 --> 00:08:22.329
ready? Okay, let's roll. What you are witnessing

00:08:22.329 --> 00:08:25.389
here linguistically, aside from the sheer breathtaking

00:08:25.389 --> 00:08:28.459
bravery of the act. is a profound transformation.

00:08:28.899 --> 00:08:32.179
A casual phrase, something used to leave a boring

00:08:32.179 --> 00:08:35.059
conversation or to cue a film camera, was instantly

00:08:35.059 --> 00:08:39.399
transfigured. In that single breath, let's roll.

00:08:39.870 --> 00:08:41.889
became an immortal statement of extraordinary

00:08:41.889 --> 00:08:45.470
courage and sacrifice spoken by ordinary people

00:08:45.470 --> 00:08:47.710
facing the unthinkable. It left that airplane

00:08:47.710 --> 00:08:50.070
and entered the national consciousness in a way

00:08:50.070 --> 00:08:52.289
no one could have ever predicted. It became this

00:08:52.289 --> 00:08:54.690
massive rhetorical shift for the entire country.

00:08:55.090 --> 00:08:58.049
How quickly did it move from a private phone

00:08:58.049 --> 00:09:00.909
call into the public sphere? Almost immediately.

00:09:01.169 --> 00:09:03.110
But I want to be very clear before we look at

00:09:03.110 --> 00:09:05.370
how the phrase was adopted politically and militarily.

00:09:05.590 --> 00:09:07.590
It's really vital to look at this strictly as

00:09:07.590 --> 00:09:09.820
historians. Okay. Regardless of where anyone

00:09:09.820 --> 00:09:11.899
falls on the political spectrum, left or right,

00:09:12.019 --> 00:09:15.000
we are not endorsing or validating any specific

00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.720
political viewpoints here. Of course not. Watching

00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.320
how quickly a phrase moves from a tragic flight

00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.639
into presidential addresses simply shows how

00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:26.360
desperately the nation was searching for a unifying,

00:09:26.460 --> 00:09:29.820
active rallying cry in the face of profound trauma.

00:09:30.340 --> 00:09:32.799
We are neutrally observing how political figures

00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.720
and institutions utilize the immense cultural

00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.169
weight of this newly minted battle cry. And the

00:09:39.169 --> 00:09:41.330
timeline shows that President George W. Bush

00:09:41.330 --> 00:09:43.970
invoked Beamer's words very shortly after the

00:09:43.970 --> 00:09:46.330
attacks. In an address from the World Congress

00:09:46.330 --> 00:09:48.389
Center in Atlanta, Georgia, on November 8th,

00:09:48.389 --> 00:09:52.049
2001, President Bush told the crowd, quote, Some

00:09:52.049 --> 00:09:54.149
of our greatest moments have been acts of courage

00:09:54.149 --> 00:09:56.190
for which no one could have been prepared. But

00:09:56.190 --> 00:09:58.450
we have our marching orders. My fellow Americans,

00:09:58.669 --> 00:10:00.970
let's roll. He elevated it from a moment of civilian

00:10:00.970 --> 00:10:03.809
bravery to a national directive. He used it again

00:10:03.809 --> 00:10:06.110
a few months later in the 2002 State of the Union

00:10:06.110 --> 00:10:08.879
address. The source quotes him saying, For too

00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.100
long our culture has said, if it feels good,

00:10:11.179 --> 00:10:13.980
do it. Now America is embracing a new ethic and

00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:16.899
a new creed. Let's roll. By positioning the phrase

00:10:16.899 --> 00:10:19.860
as a new ethic and a new creed, the government

00:10:19.860 --> 00:10:22.279
was essentially taking a deeply personal moment

00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:25.379
of sacrifice and turning it into a unifying national

00:10:25.379 --> 00:10:28.860
doctrine for the ensuing war on terror. Language

00:10:28.860 --> 00:10:31.580
operates as a coping mechanism, and the nation

00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:34.000
needed a phrase that implied fighting back. The

00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.889
military took that doctrine very literally. The

00:10:36.889 --> 00:10:39.429
sources show that in early 2002, the United States

00:10:39.429 --> 00:10:41.970
Air Force Chief of Staff General John P. Jumper

00:10:41.970 --> 00:10:45.590
issued a highly specific order. This is a fascinating

00:10:45.590 --> 00:10:48.549
detail. He mandated that one airplane in every

00:10:48.549 --> 00:10:51.950
single USAF squadron, plus all the USAF demonstration

00:10:51.950 --> 00:10:55.450
planes, had to bear a specific image. It was

00:10:55.450 --> 00:10:57.929
an eagle on an American flag accompanied by the

00:10:57.929 --> 00:11:01.809
words, Let's Roll and Spirit of 9 -11. That nose

00:11:01.809 --> 00:11:03.710
art was ordered to remain on the planes until

00:11:03.710 --> 00:11:06.129
the first anniversary of the attack. Notice the

00:11:06.129 --> 00:11:08.309
full circle moment there. The phrase started

00:11:08.309 --> 00:11:11.049
with literal military usage tanks and horse -drawn

00:11:11.049 --> 00:11:14.149
caissons in 1908, and almost a century later

00:11:14.149 --> 00:11:16.230
it is painted on the side of supersonic fighter

00:11:16.230 --> 00:11:18.950
jets. Except this time it isn't just a cadence,

00:11:19.070 --> 00:11:21.639
it is a memorial to civilian bravery. Here's

00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:23.759
where it gets really interesting to me, because

00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.919
it didn't just stay in political speeches or

00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.240
or painted on military bases. The explosion of

00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.120
this phrase into pop culture is staggering. It's

00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.740
saturated the media landscape, crossing over

00:11:34.740 --> 00:11:37.940
into incredibly diverse platforms. Society was

00:11:37.940 --> 00:11:40.320
trying to process an enormous collective trauma.

00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:43.559
And because this phrase perfectly captured the

00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.539
transition from victimhood to action, it became

00:11:46.539 --> 00:11:49.120
the primary tool for processing that grief across

00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.519
almost every creative medium. The sheer variety

00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:53.820
of musical genres that adopted the phrase is

00:11:53.820 --> 00:11:56.480
wild. Just two months after the attacks in November

00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.379
2001, rock legend Neil Young released an immediate

00:11:59.379 --> 00:12:02.919
visceral single simply titled Let's Roll, which

00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:05.000
later ended up on his album Are You Passionate?

00:12:05.059 --> 00:12:07.519
A classic songwriter having a real -time reaction

00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:10.350
to a historical event. But it wasn't just legacy

00:12:10.350 --> 00:12:12.690
rock artists. Not at all. The next year you see

00:12:12.690 --> 00:12:14.730
it everywhere. The hard rock group L .A. Guns

00:12:14.730 --> 00:12:16.850
put out a track called OK Let's Roll on their

00:12:16.850 --> 00:12:18.889
album Waking the Dead. Then you have the country

00:12:18.889 --> 00:12:21.029
music duo the Bellamy Brothers releasing Let's

00:12:21.029 --> 00:12:23.149
Roll America on their album Redneck Girls Forever.

00:12:23.429 --> 00:12:25.830
Think about the emotional and spiritual need

00:12:25.830 --> 00:12:28.210
of the country at that time. Different genres

00:12:28.210 --> 00:12:30.490
serve different psychological purposes for their

00:12:30.490 --> 00:12:32.909
listeners. That is perfectly illustrated by the

00:12:32.909 --> 00:12:35.710
Christian rock group DC Talk. They were actually

00:12:35.710 --> 00:12:38.529
on an extended hiatus at the time. They broke

00:12:38.529 --> 00:12:40.850
their hiatus specifically to record and release

00:12:40.850 --> 00:12:44.629
a single entitled Let's Roll. Breaking hiatus

00:12:44.629 --> 00:12:47.509
to release one specific song speaks volumes about

00:12:47.509 --> 00:12:50.049
the cultural weight the phrase carried. For a

00:12:50.049 --> 00:12:52.649
religious music group, the phrase likely represented

00:12:52.649 --> 00:12:55.450
a form of spiritual processing, framing Todd

00:12:55.450 --> 00:12:58.590
Beamer's actions as a definitive example of laying

00:12:58.590 --> 00:13:00.889
down one's life for others. And it kept going

00:13:00.889 --> 00:13:03.009
over the next few years, touching genres you

00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:06.200
just wouldn't expect. In 2003, the Montreal indie

00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.580
walk band The Stills included a song with the

00:13:08.580 --> 00:13:11.080
title on their debut album. You had electronic

00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.539
artist Johnny L releasing a track that actually

00:13:13.539 --> 00:13:16.299
sampled President Bush's 2002 State of the Union

00:13:16.299 --> 00:13:19.559
address. Wow. Yeah. In 2004, the country and

00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.059
novelty artist Ray Stevens released a self -penned

00:13:22.059 --> 00:13:24.360
song called Let's Roll that directly referenced

00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.519
Todd Beamer in the lyrics. He ended up putting

00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:28.440
that track on multiple albums over the years.

00:13:28.620 --> 00:13:30.940
It is a fascinating cross -section of artistic

00:13:30.940 --> 00:13:34.610
intent. You have artists like Ray Stevens using

00:13:34.610 --> 00:13:37.730
the phrase as a direct literal tribute to Beamer,

00:13:37.809 --> 00:13:40.690
while electronic artists are using it to sample

00:13:40.690 --> 00:13:42.590
and reflect the political rhetoric of the era.

00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.159
We can't forget Melissa Etheridge either. Her

00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.019
2004 song Tuesday Morning was written in honor

00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:50.879
of another Flight 93 passenger, Mark Bingham,

00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:53.399
and she consciously concludes that song with

00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:56.759
the phrase, let's roll. It became an undeniable

00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.799
cultural touchstone in music, but it also entered

00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:01.799
other areas of public life where the integration

00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.879
wasn't always as smooth. especially in sports.

00:14:05.179 --> 00:14:07.039
This is where we run into the inherent tension

00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:09.440
of commodifying tragedy. Yeah. When a phrase

00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.960
holds that much sacred weight, utilizing it for

00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.080
entertainment purposes becomes ethically fraught

00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.299
very quickly. The sources point out that even

00:14:16.299 --> 00:14:18.080
though the phrase was in common use long before

00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.919
September 11th, many people soon tried to lay

00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.860
claim to it as a trademark after the attacks.

00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.799
In the 2002 college football season, the Florida

00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:27.980
State Seminoles decided to use let's roll as

00:14:27.980 --> 00:14:30.639
their official team slogan. it immediately caused

00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.820
a massive uproar. You can entirely understand

00:14:32.820 --> 00:14:35.980
the backlash there. Taking a phrase born from

00:14:35.980 --> 00:14:38.340
the realization of imminent death to save others

00:14:38.340 --> 00:14:40.879
and pasting it onto a college football season

00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:45.000
to hype up a defense, it clashes harshly with

00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.100
the reverence people felt for the sacrifice on

00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:51.539
Flight 93. They misjudge the raw emotional recency

00:14:51.539 --> 00:14:53.600
of the event. The conflict was eventually resolved

00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:55.700
when the Todd M. Beamer Foundation officially

00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:58.769
licensed the trademark to the team. The foundation

00:14:58.769 --> 00:15:00.970
had actually been granted a trademark for uses

00:15:00.970 --> 00:15:03.350
of the phrase specifically regarding audio and

00:15:03.350 --> 00:15:06.549
music, like pre -recorded CDs and tapes. That

00:15:06.549 --> 00:15:09.590
licensing step is incredibly telling. It highlights

00:15:09.590 --> 00:15:11.850
the family and the foundation attempting to maintain

00:15:11.850 --> 00:15:14.929
some level of stewardship over the phrase. They

00:15:14.929 --> 00:15:16.769
were trying to ensure that even as it exploded

00:15:16.769 --> 00:15:19.210
into pop culture and commercial ventures, its

00:15:19.210 --> 00:15:22.039
origin wasn't entirely... diluted or disrespected.

00:15:22.259 --> 00:15:25.340
Once that precedent of respectful usage was set,

00:15:25.500 --> 00:15:27.940
it popped up in other sports as a genuine tribute

00:15:27.940 --> 00:15:30.700
rather than just a hype slogan. NASCAR driver

00:15:30.700 --> 00:15:33.639
Bobby Labonte drove a 9 -11 tribute car with

00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.519
the words, let's roll, painted on the hood at

00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.460
Dover. Detroit Red Wings goaltender Jimmy Howard

00:15:39.460 --> 00:15:41.899
had the inscription, let's roll, put on the back

00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:43.600
of his goalie helmet as a reference to Flight

00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.679
93. Those examples feel much closer to the military

00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.940
jets we talked about earlier. They are quiet.

00:15:49.370 --> 00:15:52.159
personal acts of memorialization. Beyond music

00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.879
and sports, the phrase just completely permeated

00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:57.860
screen media. Lisa Beamer Todd's Widow published

00:15:57.860 --> 00:16:01.100
a book in 2003 titled Let's Roll Ordinary People,

00:16:01.299 --> 00:16:03.779
Extraordinary Courage. There was a dramatized

00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:06.059
film reconstruction of the events called Let's

00:16:06.059 --> 00:16:08.700
Roll the Story of Flight 93. It even made its

00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:11.179
way into blockbuster sci -fi. Optimus Prime says

00:16:11.179 --> 00:16:13.740
it in the 2009 movie Transformers Revenge of

00:16:13.740 --> 00:16:16.440
the Fallen. From a hijacked airplane to a blockbuster

00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.600
movie about giant robots. It proves how deeply

00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.679
the phrase had woven it. itself into the fundamental

00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:24.139
fabric of American hero speak. I want to talk

00:16:24.139 --> 00:16:25.940
about one of the most surprising inclusions in

00:16:25.940 --> 00:16:28.440
the sources, because it captures the final stage

00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.320
of how a culture processes a heavily saturated

00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:35.779
concept dark humor. I am talking about HBO's

00:16:35.779 --> 00:16:39.019
Curb Your Enthusiasm. Ah, yes. Season four, episode

00:16:39.019 --> 00:16:42.139
nine, The Survivor. This is a perfect milestone

00:16:42.139 --> 00:16:45.419
in the linguistic lifecycle. It is such a classic

00:16:45.419 --> 00:16:47.860
Larry David setup. Larry and his wife are getting

00:16:47.860 --> 00:16:50.039
ready to go out and renew their vows, and Larry

00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.200
inadvertently says to his rabbi, Let's roll.

00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.159
The rabbi gets instantly offended. He snaps at

00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.179
Larry saying, you knew my brother -in -law died

00:16:58.179 --> 00:17:00.120
on September 11th. How dare you say something

00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:02.440
like that? The rabbi automatically assumes Larry

00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.339
is making light of the tragedy, specifically

00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:06.980
because of the inescapable cultural connection

00:17:06.980 --> 00:17:09.460
to the phrase. But Larry being Larry, he takes

00:17:09.460 --> 00:17:11.559
issue with the rabbi's outrage. Because as Larry

00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:13.720
points out, the rabbi's brother -in -law wasn't

00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.059
killed in the terrorist attacks. He died on September

00:17:16.059 --> 00:17:17.680
11th because he was hit by a bike messenger.

00:17:17.859 --> 00:17:19.480
It was a complete coincidence of the calendar.

00:17:19.779 --> 00:17:21.980
When a tragedy's rhetoric can be referenced in

00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:24.039
In an HBO comedy, without canceling the show,

00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.900
it signifies a cultural milestone. It means the

00:17:27.900 --> 00:17:30.200
phrase has fully integrated into the broader

00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.019
complex linguistic landscape. It's evolved again.

00:17:33.220 --> 00:17:36.400
Exactly. If we synthesize this sprawling list,

00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.259
from Neil Young's immediate grief to Florida

00:17:39.259 --> 00:17:41.839
State's sports hype to Optimus Prime and finally

00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.720
to Larry David's satire, it shows you the entire

00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.220
life cycle of collective trauma processing. Society

00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:51.160
uses language first for heartfelt tribute, then

00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:53.900
for motivation, and eventually it processes that

00:17:53.900 --> 00:17:57.000
intense saturation through dark humor. So what

00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:58.880
does this all mean when we look back at the whole

00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.420
journey? We started this deep dive looking at

00:18:01.420 --> 00:18:03.759
wagon trains dragging heavy wooden wheels west.

00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:06.440
We looked at the suave Cary Grant trying to escape

00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.240
a boring conversation in the 1930s and rugged

00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.980
Hemingway characters barking orders. We watched

00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:14.079
that very same phrase get picked up by Todd Beamer

00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:16.599
on Flight 93, resulting in his ultimate selfless

00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.259
sacrifice. From there, it became a ubiquitous

00:18:19.259 --> 00:18:21.380
cultural, political, and musical symbol that

00:18:21.380 --> 00:18:24.000
dominated an entire decade of American life.

00:18:24.259 --> 00:18:26.900
It serves as a powerful reminder to you, the

00:18:26.900 --> 00:18:29.160
listener, that the words you use every single

00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.000
day are alive. They aren't just sounds you make

00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.000
to get through your routine. They carry the immense

00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.940
weight of history. They absorb the courage, the

00:18:37.940 --> 00:18:41.039
politics, the grief, and the media of the generations

00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:43.559
that speak them. And I want to leave you with

00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:47.160
a thought to mull over. The next time you casually

00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.950
tell a group of friends. Let's take a second

00:18:49.950 --> 00:18:52.630
to ask yourself, what other ordinary phrases

00:18:52.630 --> 00:18:55.470
in your vocabulary are secretly carrying the

00:18:55.470 --> 00:18:59.069
ghosts of monumental historical events just waiting

00:18:59.069 --> 00:19:01.430
to be uncovered? I love that. I am definitely

00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:02.950
going to be paying way more attention to the

00:19:02.950 --> 00:19:05.369
things I say without thinking. Thank you so much

00:19:05.369 --> 00:19:07.690
for joining us on this deep dive. Keep questioning

00:19:07.690 --> 00:19:09.769
the everyday world around you. Keep looking for

00:19:09.769 --> 00:19:11.789
those hidden histories, and we will catch you

00:19:11.789 --> 00:19:12.210
next time.
