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Picture this. You're sitting in your living room,

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maybe halfway paying attention to the TV or,

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you know, just scrolling on your phone. Right.

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Usually totally tuning it out. Exactly. But suddenly

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there's this piece of music driving the visuals

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that is just so undeniably catchy. Oh, yeah.

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We've all been there. It's so uniquely energetic

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that you find yourself scrambling for your phone,

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opening up an app, and trying to Shazam the track

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before the 30 -second spot even ends. And that

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specific scenario completely changed the music

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industry, especially in the early 2010s. It really

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did. And today, we are unpacking the fascinating

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trajectory of a group that lived exactly on the

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other side of that scenario. Welcome to the Deep

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Dive. Thanks for having me. I'm really excited

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for this one. So today we're taking a stack of

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source material, basically centering around a

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single detailed Wikipedia article. And we're

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pulling it apart to look at the intersection

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of underground music and massive global advertising.

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Right. We're looking at the Kid Street Band.

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Yeah, the Kid Street Band. If we had to put a

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label on this deep dive, like a title, we might

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call it something like the Kid Street Phenomenon.

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How a Canadian sibling trio. became the sound

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of apple and ford i like that it has a nice ring

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to it Right. And we are tailoring this specifically

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for you, the listener, who loves uncovering those

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hidden stories behind the sounds that subtly

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score our everyday lives. It really is the ultimate

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backstage pass because we often hear these massive,

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ubiquitous sounds and just assume they were generated

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in some, I don't know, sterile corporate boardroom

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somewhere. Totally. Just executives in suits

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pressing a button. Exactly. But the reality is

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usually far more grounded and frankly, a lot

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sweatier than that. Right. Okay, let's unpack

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this. We have to start right at the foundation.

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To understand how they ended up in millions of

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living rooms, we are traveling back to the year

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2007. 2007, a very different era. Definitely.

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And the location is Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

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That is the birthplace of Kid Street. And that

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location provides some vital context, really.

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When you look at the landscape of Waterloo, Ontario

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music, it has always had a rather distinct texture

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to it. Yeah, it's a bit of a hybrid city, right?

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It is. Waterloo is this unique hybrid where it's

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a major college town, but it's also a massive

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technology hub. Oh, right. The tech side. Yeah.

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So out of that specific environment in 2007,

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you have this Canadian electronica group emerging.

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Right. But what makes the foundation of Kid Street

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so compelling isn't just their geography. It's

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their DNA. Because it's a family band. Exactly.

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It is entirely a family affair. This synth pop

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trio is made up of three siblings. Which, I mean,

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that always adds a layer of complexity to any

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band story. Absolutely. You have two brothers

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and a younger sister. Carl Snyder is on the drums.

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Cliff Snyder is handling the synth and the guitar,

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and the younger sister, Edna Snyder, is providing

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the piano and the vocals. That dynamic is always

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so interesting. Whenever you look at the history

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of music, sibling bands are fascinating. Think

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about Oasis or the Kinks. Oh, man, the Gallagher

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brothers. Right. There is often a lot of tension,

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but there is also this unspoken, innate chemistry.

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They share a rhythmic language that is incredibly

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difficult to manufacture with strangers in a

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rehearsal space. I'd imagine the shorthand they

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have with each other is just built in. Like you

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don't have to explain to your brother that he's

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playing too loud. No, you just give him a look.

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Yeah, a look across the stage that you've been

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giving him since he was 10 years old. And that

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intuition clearly translated into their sound.

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The sources we're looking at today describe Kid

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Street as having a, quote, unique form of synth

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pop. Which is a pretty broad term, but it fits.

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They fall firmly under the umbrella of Canadian

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electronica. but they are doing something very

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distinct with the genre. And that brings me to

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their live setup, which completely challenges

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what you might expect. How so? Well, when you

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hear the phrase electronica band, the immediate

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stereotype is a single person standing perfectly

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still behind a glowing laptop screen. Maybe just

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pushing the space bar. Yeah, pushing the space

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bar, turning a single knob, and just nodding

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their head to the beat. But the sources highlight

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that Kid Street actively shattered that mold

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they are a live electronic music group in the

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truest sense on stage they aren't relying on

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a static backing track to do all the heavy lifting

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no they're really playing they're actively blending

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electronic elements with real live instrumentation

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you have live drums from carl live vocals and

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piano from edna and live guitars and synths from

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cliff What's fascinating here is how fundamentally

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that choice transforms the relationship between

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the band and the audience. Oh, for sure. When

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you introduce live instrumentation into electronica,

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specifically a highly physical instrument like

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an acoustic drum kit or a distorted live guitar,

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you completely change the kinetic energy of the

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room. Hold up. For those listening who might

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just hit play on Spotify and not think about

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the production side, how does a live drum kit

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actually change the mechanics of electronic music?

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It's a great question. Electronic music by...

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very nature is inherently precise. It's quantized.

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Meaning what exactly? Meaning the musical notes

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are snapped perfectly onto a digital grid. A

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computer program ensures that every single beat

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lands on the exact mathematical millisecond it

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is supposed to. It's basically flawless. Flawless,

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yes. But because it's flawless, it can sometimes

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feel robotic or sterile. But when Carl Snyder

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hits a real drum, or when Edna Snyder physically

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strikes the keys of her piano, it introduces

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these microscopic human variations in timing.

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It gives it a pulse. Exactly. It introduces a

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groove. More than that, it introduces a visual,

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physical... exertion that the audience can literally

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see and feel in their chests. So the crowd isn't

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just watching musicians press buttons. No, they're

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watching them sweat and physically labor to produce

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these massive sounds. It makes the performance

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an active rock concert experience rather than

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a passive listening session. Which totally explains

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the touring pedigree they built up. When you

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look at the roster of artists Kid Street shared

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the stage with, it's a pretty staggering list.

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It really is. To give you, the listener, a sense

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of their peers. The sources mention major Canadian

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acts like Dragonette, Mother Mother, Thunder

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Heist, and Rich O 'Coin. There's actually a specific

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tour reference noted in the sources with Rich

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O 'Coin in 2011. That was a big year for them.

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Massive. But they weren't just playing with local

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acts. They were also sharing stages with huge

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international names like Girl Talk and Health.

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That specific lineup of tourmates speaks volumes

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about their versatility. Think about the contrast

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between those artists. Yeah they are all over

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the map. Girl Talk, especially around that 2010

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era, was known for putting on shows that were

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absolute, unbridled, sweaty chaos. It was a massive,

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relentless mashup dance party where the crowd

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was essentially on the stage. Right. So for Kid

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Street to be booked alongside and act like that,

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their live show had to be incredibly high energy.

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They had to be able to move a massive dance floor.

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Absolutely. But then on the exact opposite end

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of the spectrum, you just mentioned health. Yeah.

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Totally different vibe. Completely. intense,

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dark, sometimes abrasive noise rock mixed with

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industrial electronica. It's a much heavier,

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more aggressive aesthetic. And then Mother's

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in there too. Right. And you have a band like

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Mother Mother who are beloved for their sharp,

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quirky vocal harmonies and tight indie rock sensibilities.

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The fact that a single synth pop trio from Waterloo

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could comfortably fit on a bill with all of those

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wildly different acts just proves that their

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blend of live instrumentation and electronic

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pop was incredible. Incredibly adaptable. They

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could bridge the gap between a frantic dance

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party and a serious indie rock show. And all

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of that live hustle culminated in some highly

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respected milestones. Our source explicitly highlights

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that they performed at the 2011 Canadian Music

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Week. A huge industry event. Specifically, there

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is a noted show on March 12th at the legendary

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El Macombo in Toronto. Which is not a venue you

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just casually stroll into. Not at all. For anyone

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who follows music history, playing the El Macombo

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is a massive badge of honor. It's this historic,

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gritty, neon -lit venue where everyone from the

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Rolling Stones to U2 has played. So you have

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this sibling trio honing their chops, playing

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iconic venues, and touring relentlessly. They

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are clearly putting in the groundwork. And that

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hard work eventually triggers a major pivot point

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in their career. The sources note that in 2010,

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the band signed with Network Records. If we connect

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this to the bigger picture, signing with Network

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Records in 2010 was essentially the catalyst

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for everything that followed. Because Network

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is huge. Network is an independent label, but

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it has a massive international footprint. They

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have a long history of breaking Canadian artists

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on a global scale. So it opened doors. This signing

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provided Kid Street with the infrastructure,

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the widespread distribution, and most critically,

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the industry connections required to take their

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sound out of the clubs of Ontario and inject

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it directly into the mainstream. Here's where

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it gets really interesting. And that leads us

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to the corporate licensing deals. Kid Street

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landed some of the most coveted placements you

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could possibly imagine in the advertising world.

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The holy grail for an indie band. Truly. But

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before we get into the specifics, I want to play

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Devil's Advocate for a second. In the underground

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indie scene, especially going back to the 90s

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and early 2000s, licensing your music to a massive

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corporation was often viewed as selling out.

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Yeah, it was a dirty word. How did an indie band

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navigate that without losing their credibility?

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It's a really crucial point to bring up. The

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stigma around selling out shifted dramatically

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right around the time Kid Street was emerging.

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What changed? By the late 2000s and early 2010s,

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the traditional revenue streams for musicians

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like physical album sales had completely collapsed

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due to digital piracy and the early days of streaming.

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Right. Napster and then early Spotify just gutted

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album sales. Exactly. Indie bands suddenly realized

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that corporate synchronization or indie music

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licensing was no longer a compromise of their

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morals. It was a necessary survival tool. You

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had to do it to keep the lights on. Beyond just

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the paycheck, a major commercial placement became

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the new radio. It was how you got your music

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in front of millions of ears. So the culture

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shifted from criticizing bands for doing commercials

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to actually celebrating them for securing the

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bag and getting their art heard. That makes total

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sense. It was the new mechanism for discovery.

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And for Kid Street, that discovery all revolved

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around a specific track with an almost hilariously

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modest title. I love this part. The song is simply

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called Song. That's it. Just Song. Right to the

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point. But what it lacked in a descriptive title,

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it more than made up for in its sonic profile.

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The track is driven by this incredibly infectious

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staccato piano riff. The timeline of indie music

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licensing for this specific track is a masterclass

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in how a single piece of music can have a multi

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-year life cycle. Oh yeah, it wasn't a flash

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of the pan. Not at all. According to the sources,

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it wasn't just a one -and -done placement. Song

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first entered the corporate advertising space

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in 2009 when it was used in Ford commercial music

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campaigns. And clearly... The marketing executives

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at Ford saw a massive return on the energy that

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track brought to their visuals because the sources

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note that song was actually brought back to score

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most of Ford's 2011 television commercials. That

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is a massive win. To be the sonic identity of

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a major automotive brand for multiple years is

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huge. It is, but they didn't stop there because

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in 2012, this exact same track was licensed by

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an entirely different corporate giant. A completely

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different industry. It became the Apple MacBook

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Pro commercial song. Specifically, it was the

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television spot, introducing the MacBook Pro

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with retina display. Okay, this is where I need

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to stop and look at the mechanics of this. You

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have one track, modestly titled Song. It is selling

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pickup trucks and sedans for Ford in 2009 and

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2011. And then it is selling high -end, cutting

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-edge laptops for Apple in 2012. Musically speaking,

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why does this specific track work so perfectly

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for two completely different products? It all

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comes down to the architecture of that specific

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staccato piano riff Edna Snyder is playing. Let's

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break that down. When you analyze why it works,

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you have to look at the nature of a staccato

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note. Staccato means the notes are sharply detached

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and separated from one another. It's the opposite

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of a long, flowing, legato sound. Okay, so it's

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punchy. There is no lingering, no bleeding of

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sound. It's tap, tap, tap, forward, forward,

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forward. Right, it has an immediate sense of

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propulsion. Exactly. If you are Ford and you

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are trying to sell a vehicle... You want to convey

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momentum. You want the viewer to feel tires gripping

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the pavement, moving fast and reliably. And the

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piano does that. The staccato rhythm naturally

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mimics that forward physical motion. Now, pivot

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to Apple in 2012. They're introducing the Retina

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Display. Think about what that product represents.

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It's crisp. It's sharp. It's about high -definition

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processing speed and modern efficiency. So the

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sharp, detached notes of the piano reflect the

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sharp... high definition pixels of the screen

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spot on that fast precise driving piano riff

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perfectly encapsulates both the mechanical momentum

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of a car and the processing speed of a computer

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without a single lyric needing to explain it

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to the audience that is brilliant It's a brilliant

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piece of compositional engineering, whether Kid

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Street intentionally designed it for that purpose

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or simply stumbled into a universal groove. It's

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the absolute perfect marriage of sound and product.

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Yeah. But what really strikes me when I look

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at the source material is the sheer velocity

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at which this band was operating behind the scenes

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while these commercials were airing. Why we're

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busy. Let's look at what I'll call the sprint

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of 2011. Based on their discography, 2011 wasn't

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just a busy year. It was an absolute avalanche

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of output. The volume of their releases during

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that 12 -month window is staggering. In that

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single calendar year, they dropped an EP titled

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X. They released two separate singles, Birthday

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Boy and Never Coming Back, and they released

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a full -length album. Yeah. To put that into

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perspective for the listener, releasing an EP,

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two standalone singles, and a full -length album

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in one year is an exhausting undertaking for

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any artist, let alone an independent one. Just

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the studio time alone. it requires writing the

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material spending weeks or months in the recording

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studio producing the electronic layers tracking

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the live instruments mixing mastering and then

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coordinating the press releases not to mention

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as we discussed earlier 2011 was the exact same

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year they were actively touring with Rich Alcoyne

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and playing high profile showcases like the El

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Macombo during Canadian Music Week. Right. Oh,

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and their music was simultaneously backing the

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majority of Ford's 2011 television campaigns.

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They were quite literally everywhere at once.

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And there is a fascinating little quirk in their

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discography timeline from our sources that highlights

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how strange the business side of music can be.

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Oh, about the release dates. Yeah. The single

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song, which, as we just discussed, had already

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been used in massive Ford commercials in 2009

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and 2011, is officially listed in their discography

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as a 2012 release. Hold on, how does that work?

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How is a song released in 2012 if it was already

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on my TV screen in 2009? This happens quite a

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bit in the sync licensing space. A track might

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exist purely as a demo or it might be pitched

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exclusively to ad agencies long before it gets

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a formalized commercial release to the general

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public on platforms like iTunes or Spotify. So

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it's just a corporate asset first. Oh, it essentially

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lived as a commercial asset for three years before

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it was officially packaged as a 2012 single release

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for their fans to purchase. That is wild. But

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looking at that timeline as a whole, it really.

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paints a picture of incredible momentum building

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up to a crescendo. It does. The 2010 signing

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with Network Records clearly opened the floodgates.

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It provided the resources they needed. Then you

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have this furious activity in 2011, the massive

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recording output of Foo and the XEP, the relentless

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touring. All leading up to Apple. All of this

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ground level grinding culminates in the massive

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2012 Apple commercial placement. I want you,

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the listener, to just imagine the sheer work

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ethic and and the physical exhaustion required

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by the Snyder siblings during this highly condensed

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period. Yeah, it's hard to fathom. It is a monumental

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undertaking to balance the creative demands of

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a live electronic setup with the corporate demands

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of global sync deals. It genuinely makes you

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appreciate the hustle behind the music you hear

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on your screen. You hear 30 seconds and a catchy

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piano riff while someone opens a sleek silver

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laptop on TV. And you have absolutely no idea

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that those 30 seconds represent years of sweat,

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complex sibling dynamics, endless highway miles

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and late night studio sessions in Ontario. Exactly.

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So what does this all mean? If we zoom out and

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look at the entirety of the source material we've

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unpacked today, we have traced an incredible

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arc. We really have. We started in 2007 with

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a sibling trio in Waterloo, Ontario. We watched

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Carl, Cliff, and Edna experiment with Canadian

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electronica, actively deciding to break the mold.

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They didn't want to just press play. They didn't

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just want to be laptop DJs. They chose to build

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a live electronic music experience, blending

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real drums, guitars, and vocals with their synth

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-a -pop elements. We saw how that physical, high

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-energy stage presence allowed them to hold their

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own alongside wildly diverse acts like Girl Talk

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and Health, ultimately leading to that crucial

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2010 signing with Network Records. And we saw

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how their unique musical sensibility specifically,

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a perfectly crafted staccato piano, riff caught

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the ear of marketing executives. Bridging the

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underground and the mainstream. Allowing them

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to brilliantly bridge the gap between underground

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indie art and global commercial commerce, turning

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them into the unmistakable sound of both Ford

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and Apple. It's the ultimate indie dream fully

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realized. It truly is. And the next time you

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find yourself watching a commercial or a movie

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trailer or even just a random sponsored video

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on your feed and you hear an undeniably catchy

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instrumental driving the action, I want you to

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remember the story of Kid Street. Keep them in

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mind. Remember that the music didn't just spawn

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out of thin air. There is a very real chance

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that the massive sound you are hearing was created

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by a hardworking indie band, maybe even a group

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of siblings dragging a drum kit into a basement

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somewhere, finally getting their big break and

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seeing their art broadcast on a global scale.

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That's the beauty of looking closer at these

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seemingly everyday details. And it raises an

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important question to leave you with today. Oh,

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I'm ready for it. We've been dissecting the early

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2010s, which was a very specific golden era for

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indie music licensing in television commercials.

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But the landscape of media has shifted so dramatically

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since then. Right, cord cutting and everything.

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We don't watch TV the same way we did in 2012.

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So it sets you wonder. In an era where millions

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of songs are uploaded to streaming platforms

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every single day and where TikTok trends move

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at the absolute speed of light, what is the modern

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equivalent of that one perfect staccato piano

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riff? Wow, that's a great question. What is the

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new mechanism today that can instantly launch

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an independent band from a local stage in Ontario

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straight into the global cultural zeitgeist?

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Is it still the massive tech commercial or has

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the path to ubiquity completely changed its rhythm?

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That is such a fascinating thought to chew on.

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The avenues to success in the music industry

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are constantly shifting, but the sheer power

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of a perfectly crafted sound catching your ear

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clearly never does. Thank you so much for joining

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us on this deep dive. We love taking these single

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sources, unpacking the hidden mechanics behind

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them, and sharing these incredible stories with

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you. Keep your ears open, pay close attention

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to the soundtracks of your daily life, and we

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will see you on the next deep dive.
