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I want you to picture a resume for a second.

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Just imagine reading down a list of a single

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person's life accomplishments and seeing this

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specific sequence. OK, and picturing it. You've

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got taking down America's most notorious bank

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robbers. Right. Dating Hollywood starlets. Getting

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General George Patton demoted. And then, just

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to cap it all off, being the last person to interrogate

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top Nazi Hermann Göring. It sounds completely

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fictional. I mean, like a pitch for a movie that

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a studio executive would reject for being way

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too unbelievable. Correctly. But it is entirely

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real. We are looking at the life of one man who

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somehow stood at the exact intersection of 1930s

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true crime history and the world shaping events

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of World War Two. Yeah. So today our mission

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for this deep dive is to explore the unbelievable

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roller coaster life of America's most famous

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yet somehow totally forgotten G -Man. We're pulling

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all of this from a comprehensive Wikipedia article

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on Melvin Horace Purvis II. Melvin Purvis, right.

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We really want to get into the mechanics of his

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investigations, but also look at what his story

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reveals about the cost of fame, massive institutional

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politics, and just the totally unpredictable

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nature of history. I can promise you an incredible

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narrative today. Purvis is a figure who proves

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that the people who shape our history are You

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know, they're rarely one -dimensional. They navigate

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dizzying highs and suffer very quiet, mysterious

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lows. And to really understand him, we have to

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look at how he operated within systems that were

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often much bigger than he was. So let's jump

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in. I know you listening are probably well versed

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in the 1930s gangster era and the rise of the

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FBI. So we don't need to retread the basics.

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But looking at Purvis's start in 1927, there's

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a detail in his early performance reviews at

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the Bureau of Investigation that I found so revealing.

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You're talking about the rulebook scores. Yes.

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He consistently got a 100 % rating on his appearance

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and his loyalty to the Bureau, but he only scored

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an 80 % on his understanding of the Manual of

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Instruction. Which Hoover hated. Right, Jake

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or Hoover actually scolded him. He told him an

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80 % on the Rule Manual was unacceptable. What's

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fascinating here is that this sets up the fundamental

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dynamic of his career. Purvis wasn't a bureaucrat.

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He was an intuitive investigator. He relied on

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his gut. Exactly. You see this perfectly in 1933

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when Hoover puts him in charge of the Chicago

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office. Purvis takes on the John Factor kidnapping

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case. Factor had been held captive for 11 days

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by the Roger Tuffy gang. And when he was released,

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Purvis didn't just rely on standard procedure,

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did he? No, he hyper -focused on factors environmental

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memory. What kind of environmental clues are

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we talking about here? Things like the specific

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sounds of airplanes, the texture of the walls,

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the voices of the abductors. Purvis and his team

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used those sensory details to triangulate the

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gang's exact hideout. That is wild. Just from

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sounds and wall textures. Yeah. They raided the

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house, found the specific linen strips and window

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sash cord used to tie victims, and Purvis managed

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to get the gang brought to him in Chicago without

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even waiting for a formal extradition order.

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It was brilliant, unconventional police work

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and a massive win. But that unconventional style

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hits a massive brick wall when we get to the

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spring of 1934. OK, let's unpack the little Bohemia

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Lodge disaster. By April, the Bureau is hunting

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John Dillinger's gang. They've been on the run,

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they're completely exhausted, and they holler

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out at this remote lodge in northern Wisconsin.

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Right. The lodge owner's wife sneaks word out,

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and Purvis gets the tip. But this operation is

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a logistical nightmare from the start, isn't

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it? Nightmare doesn't even begin to cover it.

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Because of jurisdictional red tape. Hoover assigns

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Assistant Director Hugh Clegg to co -manage with

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Purvis. Which just slows everything down. It

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does. They are trying to coordinate a multi -state

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strike force in an era before reliable two -way

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radios or easy air travel. They literally charter

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commercial planes from Chicago and Minnesota.

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But the planes can't even get them close. No,

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they can only get to an airport 50 miles away

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from the lodge. And from there, it just devolves

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into utter chaos. Completely. Clegg is scouring

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this small Wisconsin town at dusk, renting whatever

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civilian cars he can find. Purvis is sent to

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a local Ford dealership to grab vehicles. He

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even commandeers a car from a random bystander

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at the airport. Just a guy dropping someone off?

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Yeah, just took his car. And you have to picture

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this. These agents are driving for two hours

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over slushy, muddy, pothole -filled back roads.

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Two of their commandeered cars break down entirely.

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Oh, no. So now, you have heavily armed federal

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agents forced to ride on the exterior running

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boards of the remaining cars. Just hanging onto

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the outside of the cars. Clutching their machine

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guns in the freezing night air. And they have

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no reconnaissance either. They're going off a

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hand -drawn map. Right. And when they arrive,

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the lodge is pitch black. And the very first

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thing that goes wrong is something no one could

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have planned for. The lodge owners had dogs.

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Of course. The dogs start barking wildly, completely

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blowing the element of surprise. And then the

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tragedy happens. There are three men who walk

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out of the lodge and get into a parked car. Can

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you explain who these guys were? Yeah. Because

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they weren't part of the game. No, they were

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Innocent Civilian Conservation Corps workers.

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The CCC. Yeah, a Great Depression -era government

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work relief program. These three men had just

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been having dinner at the lodge. They get into

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a car, turn on the engine, and the car radio

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is blaring. So when the agents step out of the

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darkness and yell for them to freeze? The workers

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literally cannot hear the commands over the radio.

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That is just awful. It's a devastating communication

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breakdown. The workers start driving away. Purvis,

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assuming this is the Dillinger gang trying to

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escape, simultaneously give the order to open

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fire. Oh my god. They kill a 33 -year -old CCC

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worker named Eugene Boyzano and wound the other

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two. Federal agents had just shot innocent government

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relief workers. And while that crossfire is happening,

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the actual gangsters start shooting from the

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dark. Right. Purvis spots a fleeing figure, tries

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to fire, but his machine gun jams. Of course

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it does. That figure turns out to be Babyface

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Nelson. He escapes, steals the exact car Purvis

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had commandeered from the airport bystander,

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and kills a special agent before vanishing. Meanwhile,

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Dillinger and the rest of the gang just slip

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out the second story back windows into the woods?

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It was an unmitigated disaster. The local public

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was absolutely furious. Reporters actually faked

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a petition from local residents to present to

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civic organizations. Just to manufacture headlines

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demanding that Purvis be suspended. Yeah. It

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stood as the Bureau's worst operational failure

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for the next 59 years. But Hoover doesn't fire

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him. He brings in Inspector Samuel P. Calley

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to oversee the manhunt, but Purvis stays in Chicago.

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Which brings us to July 1934 and the famous Biograph

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Theater stakeout. How does Purvis finally corner

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Dillinger? It all comes down to a woman named

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Anna Sage. She was a Romanian immigrant operating

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a brothel in Chicago, and she was facing deportation

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as an undesirable alien. She realizes her friend,

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Polly Hamilton, is secretly dating John Dillinger.

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Sage sees a lifeline. She contacts Purvis and

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offers to set up Dillinger in exchange for staying

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in the U .S. and a portion of the reward money.

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I found Purvis's response to her really interesting.

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He doesn't make promises he can't keep. He is

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remarkably upfront. He tells her he doesn't have

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the legal authority to halt a State Department

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deportation, but he promises he will officially

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recommend her to stay. She agrees and tips them

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off that they're all going to the Biograph Theater

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the next night. Yes. Here's where it gets really

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interesting. The atmosphere of this stakeout

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is so cinematic, it's a suffocatingly hot July

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evening. Dillinger arrives in a straw boater

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hat. Classic 30s detail. Right. Purvis actually

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buys a ticket. goes inside the theater to see

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if he can arrest him in the seats, but realizes

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it's way too crowded. He'd risk a massive civilian

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crossfire. Smart call after a little bohemian.

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Definitely. So he comes back out and sets up

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a system of signals with his agents and the local

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Chicago police. The tension must have been agonizing.

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They wait outside for two hours. The federal

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men are loitering in the doorways for so long

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that the feeder employees actually think they're

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casing the joint for a robbery. They called the

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cops on the feds. They called the local cops.

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A squad car pulls up and a federal agent has

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to quietly flash his badge to wave them off before

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Dillinger walks out. And when the movie finally

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ends... the signal plan completely falls apart.

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Yes. The plan was for Purvis to light a cigar

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to confirm Dillinger's identity, then wave his

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hand to signal the local police to move in. Dillinger

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walks out, Purvis strikes a match, lights the

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cigar, waves his hand. And the local cops miss

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it. They miss it. They are distracted by a pedestrian.

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Purvis literally has to walk out into the middle

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of the sidewalk and wave again and they miss

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it a second time. So the backup agents realize

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the cops aren't moving and they start to close

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in themselves. But Dillinger senses the shift

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in the crowd. Polly Hamilton gives his shirt

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a slight warning tug. Dillinger reaches for his

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pistol. Purvis moves so fast to draw his own

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weapon that he tears the buttons right off his

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jacket. But it's agents Herman Hollis, Charles

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Winstead and Clarence Hurt who fire first. Dillinger

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is killed instantly. It's an incredible tactical

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redemption for Purvis. But I want to pause on

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Anna Sage for a second because the fallout for

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her is brutal. It is a tragic irony. Purvis kept

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his word. He officially wrote to Hoover. He released

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public statements crediting her. He fought for

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her. But the State Department refused to budge.

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They deported her to Romania anyway. It really

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highlights how little power an individual agent

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had against the broader federal machine. And

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that broader machine is about to turn on Purvis

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himself. Yeah. Because three months later, in

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October 1934, Purvis and his team tracked down

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pretty boy Floyd at an Ohio farmhouse. Right.

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Floyd is killed after sprinting zigzagging across

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an open field, two massive public enemies down

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in a matter of months. Pervis becomes a national

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superhero. If we connect this to the bigger picture,

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this is where the institutional politics come

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into play. If you've ever had a boss who demanded

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total credit for your work or felt deeply threatened

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by your individual success, you will understand

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exactly what Pervis was facing, just on a national

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scale. Pervis was endorsing Gillette razors,

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Dodge cars, post... Toasty cereal. He was a pop

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culture icon. And J. Edgar Hoover was building

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a very different mythos. Hoover wanted the institution

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of the FBI to be the hero, not any single agent.

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And frankly, he was intensely jealous. The jealousy

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was toxic. Hoover began freezing Purvis out,

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criticizing him constantly. There is a surviving

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internal FBI memo written after Purvis eventually

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left, discussing a newspaper article about Purvis's

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massive publicity. What did it say? On that memo,

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Hoover wrote in his own angry handwriting, someone

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at Chicago must have talked. Wow. The environment

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became so hostile that Purvis was essentially

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forced to resign in 1935. You would think that's

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the peak of a life. Resigning after taking down

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the biggest outlaws of the century. But this

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is where his trajectory gets gets wildly unpredictable.

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She really does. He moves to Hollywood, passes

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the California bar, and just leans into the celebrity.

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He's living a completely different life. He forms

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a junior G -Man club as a radio marketing scheme.

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He writes a memoir called American Agent. He's

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socializing with Clark Gable. He briefly dates

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Hollywood icon Gene Harlow. He's a technical

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advisor for movies. But then World War II breaks

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out. And Purvis immediately contacts Hoover,

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basically begging the director not to use his

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influence to block Purvis from joining the military.

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And it works. By 1942, he is a captain in the

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Army, assigned to the Provost Marshal General's

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office. Because of his unique background in high

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-stakes federal investigations, he's sent to

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the North African theater. His primary directive

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is military intelligence and busting up massive

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black market operations. We're talking about

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syndicates stealing up to 20 % of American military

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material and selling it illegally. Yeah, huge

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rings. But his most famous investigation in the

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military had nothing to do with stolen goods.

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It had to do with the General George S. Patton.

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Right. How does a former FBI agent end up going

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toe to toe with America's most famous and intimidating

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four -star general? It stems from the infamous

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slapping incidents of August 1943. Patton was

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visiting evacuation hospitals in Sicily and encountered

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two soldiers suffering from what they called

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battle fatigue or shell shock. What we now medically

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recognize as PTSD. Exactly. Patton didn't believe

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in the condition. He thought they were cowards,

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and he physically slapped and verbally abused

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them. And when word of this reaches General Eisenhower,

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it's a massive political crisis. Eisenhower needs

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someone to investigate who has absolute investigative

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integrity, someone who knows how to handle hostile

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witnesses, and crucially, someone who will not

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be intimidated by the stars on Patton's shoulder.

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He sends Melvin Purvis? He sends Purvis. He travels

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to the hospitals, interviews the medical staff,

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interviews the witnesses, and compiles a devastatingly

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thorough impartial report. And it was that specific

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report that gave Eisenhower the ammunition he

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needed to discipline Patton. Yes. Because of

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Purvis's findings, Patton was temporarily relieved

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of field command and demoted to military governor

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of Sicily. It is staggering to think the same

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man who staked out a Chicago movie theater took

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down one of the most powerful military figures

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of the 20th century. And his responsibilities

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only escalate from there. By 1945, the war is

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ending and the War Department tasks him with

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helping organize the War Crimes Division. He's

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literally running around Heidelberg, Germany,

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tracking down rumors of Adolf Hitler's remains

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and hunting for Martin Borman. He is instrumental

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in establishing the interrogations and protocols

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that would become the Nuremberg trials. Which

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leads to October 15th, 1946. Purvis is in a prison

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cell in Nuremberg, conducting a face -to -face

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interview with Hermann Goering, the architect

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of the Luftwaffe and the highest ranking Nazi

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official to stand trial. It's an incredible moment.

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Guring looks at Purvis, this kid from South Carolina

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turned global investigator, and asks him point

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blank if there is any political maneuver, any

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possible way he can avoid his sentence of execution

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by hanging. And Purvis looks him in the eye and

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simply tells him no. The finality of that. And

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that very night, shortly after that interrogation,

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Guring commits suicide by ingesting a smuggled

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cyanide capsule in his cell. Purvis was literally

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at the epicenter of the closing chapter of the

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Nazi regime. It is a life so dense with historical

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crossovers, it's hard to process. But we have

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to look at the final chapter of his life, because

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after he returns to civilian life in South Carolina,

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the story takes a very dark, quiet turn. It does.

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Fast forward to 1960. Purvis is 56 years old.

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He's been working on Senate subcommittees, running

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a local radio station, but his health is rapidly

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deteriorating. He's terrified that he's suffering

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from a progressive degenerative bone disease.

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He looked awful. Colleagues in Washington had

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practically forced him to fly home to rest. And

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on February 29, 1960, his wife found him dead

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on the upstairs landing of their home in Florence,

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South Carolina. He had died from a gunshot wound

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to the head. The FBI immediately investigated

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and ruled it a suicide. But the local coroner's

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report did not actually label the cause of death

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as suicide, did it? No, the coroner left it undetermined.

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This raises an important question about how we

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interpret the end of his life. Right. On one

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hand, he was in terrible health and deeply depressed

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about his physical decline. On the other hand,

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just weeks prior, he had told a colleague he

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had far too much to live for to ever take his

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own life. There's a theory that it might have

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been a tragic accident. Can you explain the context

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of what he was supposedly doing with the gun?

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Sure. Purvis was an avid gun collector and tinkerer.

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The alternative theory, supported by some later

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investigations and family members, is that he

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was trying to extract a jammed tracer bullet

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from a pistol casing. A tracer bullet contains

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a small pyrotechnic charge that burns brightly

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when fired. Extracting a jammed one is a notoriously

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tricky and dangerous procedure. It's entirely

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possible the gun discharged accidentally while

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he was working on it. So why does all of this

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matter for you listening to this today? I think

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Melvin Purvis's life proves that the figures

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staring back at us from history books are never

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just the one thing they are famous for. They

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are overwhelmingly complex. They navigate massive,

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crushing institutional politics. They achieve

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dizzying, world -samus highs. And they suffer

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quiet. agonizingly ambiguous lows he was a young

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agent who couldn't pass a rulebook test the architect

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of a spectacular tactical failure at Little Bohemia,

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the hero of the Biograph Theater, a Hollywood

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socialite, a World War II investigator who held

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a legendary American general accountable, and

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a witness to the final desperate moments of the

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Nazi high command. It is an incredible trajectory

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from South Carolina to the neon lights of Chicago

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to the cold halls of Nuremberg. But I want to

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leave you with one final thought to mull over.

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Something about the very end of his story that

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just haunts me. Yeah. Consider the weapon that

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ended Melvin Purvis's life on that landing in

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South Carolina. It wasn't just any firearm from

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his collection. No, it wasn't. It was the very

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pistol that had been given to him as a farewell

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gift by his fellow agents when he resigned from

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the FBI in 1935. Whether his death was a tragic

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misfire while dinkering with a tracer bullet

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or a deliberate choice made in the depths of

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a terrifying health crisis, the institution that

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gave him his legendary fame ultimately provided

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the literal instrument of his demise. What does

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it say about our lives when the symbols of our

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greatest triumphs become the tools of our final

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undoing?
