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The Highway of Death. It's a it's a phrase that

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even if you weren't, you know, glued to CNN in

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the early 90s, it probably conjures up a very

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specific, very grim mental image for you. Oh,

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absolutely. It's highly evocative and terrifying.

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Honestly, in Arabic, it's actually known as Eric

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Amalt. It is. Yeah. And for. For many people,

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the images that came out of this specific event,

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they didn't just document the war. They really

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defined the end of the Gulf War. Right. Like

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you're likely picturing miles of burned -out

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vehicles, twisted metal, and just this absolute

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devastation stretching out into the desert horizon.

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Exactly. I mean, it's basically the visual shorthand

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for total defeat. But today, on this deep dive,

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we're going to move past just the scary nickname

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and really look at what happened there. Because

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there's a lot more to it than just the photos.

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So much more. We're talking about the night of

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February 26th and 27th, 1991. And this was a

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massive attack by American, Canadian, British,

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and French forces on Iraqi personnel who were,

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well, they were retreating from Kuwait. And,

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you know, that word you just used, retreating,

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that is really the key to this entire discussion

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today. How so? Because our mission today isn't

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just to look at the military tactics, although...

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Frankly, they were devastatingly effective. Our

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goal is to understand the intersection of those

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tactics with international law and also media

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optics. Because this event sparked a huge debate,

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a debate that is literally still going on in

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military colleges today. Very much so. Was it

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a Turkey shoot? Was it a war crime? Or was it

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just a perfectly legitimate military victory?

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We've pulled a stack of sources here to look

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into this. We have historical records, witness

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accounts from journalists who actually walked

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the road, post -war studies. Yeah, we really

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want to unpack the details behind those famous

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photos for you. And I promise we will get to

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the why regarding the controversies that followed.

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But I think to understand the scale of this,

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we first need to understand the geography. Let's

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do it. We need to look at the trap itself. Because

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this wasn't just a battle. It was a bottleneck.

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OK, so let's set the scene for everyone. We are

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looking at Highway 80. This is a massive six

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-lane highway. A major piece of infrastructure.

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Yeah. Running from Kuwait city up to the border

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town of Safwan and then eventually on to Basra

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in Iraq. Correct. And during the August 1990

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invasion, this was the main artery the Iraqi

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armor divisions used to get into Kuwait. So it's

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their road of conquest. Exactly. Now, fast forward

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to February in 1991. And the tables have turned

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completely. The coalition air campaign has been

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just hammering them. The ground war has started,

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and now they're trying to get out. So it's the

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night of February 26. The Iraqis are leaving.

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And this is where the US Marine Corps' third

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Marine aircraft wing comes in. And honestly,

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looking at the sources, the tactic they used

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sounds like something out of a movie script.

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It does, but it's terrifyingly real when you

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think about the physics of it. It's a classic,

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if brutal, bottleneck maneuver. The Marines used

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A -6 intruder attack jets and their specific

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goal wasn't just to, you know, bomb the convoy

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randomly to cause damage. All right, they had

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a very specific target pattern. They intentionally

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targeted the head and the tail of the column.

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So they bombed the front vehicles to stop the

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forward movement and the back vehicles to stop

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the retreat. Exactly. They effectively put a

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cork in the bottle at both ends and they did

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this using Mk 20 Rock Eye 2nd cluster bombs.

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actually explain what those are because cluster

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bomb sounds bad on its own, but the mechanics

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are really specific. Yeah, it's an anti -armor

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weapon. The bomb casing opens up in midair and

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scatters hundreds of smaller bomblets. Like grenades.

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Think of them exactly like grenades. Yeah, scattered

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over a wide area. It is incredibly effective

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against soft targets like trucks, cars, and light

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armor. So by destroying the vehicles at the very

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front and the very back of this massive column

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on Highway 80, they created an enormous, inescapable

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traffic jam. They boxed the Iraqi forces in.

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They did. Which is just a nightmare scenario.

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You're on a highway, it's night, you can't move

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forward, you can't move back, and you're fully

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exposed on a massive six -lane road. And once

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that box was closed... The barrage really began.

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For the next 10 hours, you had a sustained attack.

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10 hours? Yes. We're talking U .S. Navy aircraft

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launching from the USS Ranger, the Air Force,

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and the Marines, all converging on this stuck

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column. It was a target -rich environment to

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use the military euphemism. And reading through

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the reports, it wasn't just air power either.

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Eventually, coalition ground units arrived and

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started engaging vehicles that had survived the

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airstrikes. That's right. And for the vehicles

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that did manage to evade the jam and somehow

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drive off -road into the desert to head north,

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they were targeted individually. Wow. But the

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focal point, you know, the image that everyone

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remembers, is near the Mutla Ridge Police Station.

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The Mile of Death. Yes. That specific bottleneck

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was reduced to a long uninterrupted line of more

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than 300 stuck and abandoned vehicles. Because

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of the ridge there, the vehicles physically couldn't

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get off the road. And when we look at the wreckage

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found there, it tells a really strange story

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about exactly who was in this convoy. It definitely

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complicates the narrative. Well, that's where

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it gets so interesting to me. It wasn't just

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military hardware. I mean, sure, there were at

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least 28 T -54s and T -55s, mostly. Right. And

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plenty of armored personnel carriers. But our

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sources say there were also commandeered civilian

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cars, limousines and literal city buses. And

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many of those civilian vehicles were filled with

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stolen Kuwaiti property. We're talking about

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washing machines, VCRs, expensive rugs, jewelry.

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I even read one report about a high -performance

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speedboat being towed on a trailer in the middle

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of a war zone retreat. I know. It paints a very

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chaotic picture. This wasn't just a disciplined

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military retreat. It was an occupation force

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fleeing with loot. Right. And that detail becomes

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very important later on when we discuss the justification

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for the attack. General Norman Schwarzkopf pointed

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to that loot specifically to argue that these

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weren't innocent conscripts. They were looters

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and criminals. OK, so that's Highway 80, the

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loot, the traffic jam, the sheer panic. But I

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was surprised to learn from our reading that

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there wasn't just one highway involved here.

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The Highway of Death label kind of gets applied

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to everything. But there's a second sector. Precisely.

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And this is a distinction that often gets lost

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in the general history. There is Highway 80,

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which we just discussed. But then there is Highway

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8. OK. This is the continuation of the road deep

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into Iraq. And the dynamic there was Quite different.

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Who was on Highway 8? Was it more looters? No,

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not at all. This was the elite force, the Iraqi

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Republican Guard's first armored division known

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as the Hammurabi Division. The heavy hitters.

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Exactly. They weren't dragging washing machines

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back to Baghdad. They were trying to redeploy

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their heavy armor to defend the regime. And the

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response to them was different than the traffic

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jam on Highway 80. It was. This was a much larger

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area of operation. They were engaged by U .S.

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artillery and a battalion of age 60. for Apache

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helicopters. This was under the command of General

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Barry McCaffrey. The source described it as a

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systematic destruction of vehicles over a 50

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-mile stretch. And this leads us to an incident

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that happened after the ceasefire, which I found

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really shocking, the Battle of Rumaila. Yes,

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and this is the event often referred to by critics

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as a turkey shoot. This took place on March 2nd.

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So days later. Right. The war had officially

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paused. A cessation of hostilities had been declared,

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but a large column of the remnants of that Hammurabi

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division was attempting to withdraw toward the

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Lake Hammer Causeway. So the war is technically

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over, or at least paused, and they are still

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fighting. Well, the U .S. forces argued that

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the Iraqis moved into a threatening formation.

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General McCaffrey's forces engaged them deep

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inside Iraqi territory and essentially obliterated

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the column. Obliterated is a strong word. It's

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the accurate one based on the sources. Hundreds

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of vehicles were destroyed. It was highly controversial

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because it happened when everyone thought the

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shooting had stopped. So we have these two massive

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scenes of destruction. Highway 80, the traffic

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jam near the border with the looters, and Highway

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8, the artillery and helicopter assault on the

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Republican Guard inside Iraq. Let's talk numbers

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now. Yes, let's look at the data. Because when

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you look at the photos, mile after mile of charred

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metal, you just assume thousands upon thousands

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of people died. And that is the aha moment for

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many people digging into this deep dive. The

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visuals. suggest a massacre of biblical proportions.

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If you see 2 ,000 burned cars, you naturally

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assume 2 ,000 to 5 ,000 bodies. Right. But when

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you look at the actual body counts, the story

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is much more complex. Let's break it down for

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everyone. In terms of hardware, the destruction

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was immense. We're talking between 1 ,400 and

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2 ,000 vehicles hit or abandoned just north of

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Al -Jarrah. The equipment loss was staggering.

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It effectively de -mechanized a huge chunk of

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the Iraqi army. Yeah. but the human toll. Yeah.

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That is where the huge discrepancy lies. Well,

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the British journalist Robert Fisk, who was one

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of the first on the scene, he describes seeing

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hundreds of corpses crammed into the wreckage

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or slumped in the sand. Yes. And then photojournalist

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Peter Turnley witnessed mass burials. He arrived

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the morning the war stopped and saw US military

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graves details burying bodies. He actually noted

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that he didn't see many photos of that aspect

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being published in the West. It's a grim picture.

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However, we have to balance those eyewitness

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accounts with the post -war forensic studies.

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A 2003 study by the Project on Defense Alternatives

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or PDA did a really deep dive into this data.

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They estimated that fewer than 10 ,000 people

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were actually in that main caravan on Highway

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80 to begin with. And their estimated death toll

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was surprisingly low compared to the visual destruction.

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They estimated between 200 and 1 ,000 deaths.

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Right. And some estimates are even lower than

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that. Journalist Michael Kelly wrote a famous

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piece where he essentially walked the length

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of the destruction. personally counted 37 bodies.

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Only 37. Yeah. Now, obviously, he couldn't see

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inside every tank or under every pile of debris,

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but it highlights the huge gap between perception

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and reality. The PDA suggests a minimum of 500

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to 600 deaths is a plausible baseline. So the

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big question you have to ask is, if 2000 vehicles

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were destroyed, where did the people go? Why

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weren't they in the cars? They ran. When the

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bombing started, and remember this attack lasted

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10 hours, most people didn't stay in their cars

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waiting to be hit. Yeah, that's just basic human

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instinct. Exactly. The moment the traffic stopped

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and the jets came in, they abandoned their vehicles

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and fled into the desert or into the nearby swamps.

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It makes total sense. If you're in a traffic

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jam and bombs start falling, you don't just stay

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sitting in the Honda Civic. No, you get out.

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And the sources say about 2000 of them were eventually

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captured by ground forces. Many surrendered later.

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Some died of wounds or exposure in the desert,

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unfortunately. But the vast majority of the occupants

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weren't vaporized in their seats. They scattered.

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Which brings us to the core tension of this deep

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dive, the controversy. We have a scene of absolute

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devastation. Was this a legitimate military victory

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or was it a war crime? This is a debate that

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started almost immediately. On one side, you

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had commentators and human rights organizations

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arguing that this was a disproportionate use

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of force. They pointed out that the Iraqis were

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retreating. And they argued that by retreating,

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they were complying with UN Resolution 660, which

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had demanded they leave Kuwait. Exactly. The

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argument essentially was, we told them to leave,

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they are leaving, and we are shooting them in

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the back. It felt to critics like a betrayal

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of the diplomatic offer. There are also allegations

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regarding the composition of the column itself.

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Right, the civilian vehicles? As we mentioned,

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there were civilian cars. Critics argued there

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were Kuwaiti hostages and civilian refugees mixed

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in there. I read something in the sources about

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Palestinian families being in the convoy too.

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Yes. Reports suggested the convoy included family

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members of PLO -Lion Palestinian militants and

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Kuwaiti collaborators. They were fleeing because

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they feared retribution from the returning Kuwaiti

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authorities. So the core argument against the

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attack was that you had women and children mixed

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in with the soldiers. And then you have the legal

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argument. Former U .S. Attorney General Ramsey

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Clark was very vocal about this. He argued it

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violated the Third Geneva Convention. Specifically

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Article 3. That prohibits killing soldiers who

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are owed to combat. which is a French term meaning

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out of combat. Okay. Clark argued that because

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they were running away, they were functionally

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out of the fight. But the military and other

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legal experts strongly disagree with that interpretation.

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This seems to be where the layman's view and

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the legal view really clash. They clash heavily.

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And this is a critical nuance in international

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law. Under the Geneva Protocol 1, being in a

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state of retreat is explicitly considered a military

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action. It is a tactical maneuver. So strictly

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speaking, running away doesn't mean you surrender.

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Exactly. Think about it strategically. An army

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retreats to regroup, to rearm, and to fight again

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on better ground. Right. To be considered hors

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de combat, you must be in the power of the adverse

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party, express a clear intention to surrender,

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or be incapacitated by wounds. Simply attempting

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to escape retreating to fight another day does

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not remove your status. as a legitimate target.

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General Norman Schwarzkopf was pretty blunt about

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this when he was asked about it later. Very blunt.

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In 1995, he defended the decision rigorously.

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He gave two main reasons. First, military necessity.

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He pointed out that there was a massive amount

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of military equipment on that highway. Tanks,

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artillery, things that win wars. Right. And his

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orders were to destroy every piece of Iraqi equipment

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possible so it couldn't be used to threaten Kuwait

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or Saudi Arabia again. Basically, if you let

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them go today, You have to fight those exact

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same tanks again in six months. Precisely. And

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the second reason he gave. He pushed back hard

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on the innocent victim narrative. He called them

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a bunch of rapists, murderers and thugs who had

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pillaged Kuwait city and were just trying to

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escape justice. He pointed to all that loot on

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the trucks as proof that this wasn't just a sad

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group of conscripts, but criminals. So on one

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hand, you have the compliance argument. They

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were leaving, as told. On the other, you have

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the military necessity argument. You simply don't

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let an enemy army escape with their tanks. It's

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a brutal logic, but is the logic of war. However,

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beyond the airstrikes themselves, There are darker

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allegations we have to mention, specifically

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the reporting by Seymour Hirsch. Right. I saw

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this in the notes. This was a specific incident

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involving a U .S. Bradley fighting vehicle platoon.

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So this wasn't about bombs from the sky. This

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was down at ground level. Yes. Hirsch alleged,

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citing American witnesses, that on February 27th,

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A platoon opened fire on a group of more than

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350 disarmed Iraqi soldiers who had actually

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surrendered at a makeshift checkpoint. Now, that

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would definitely be a war crime, if true. Shooting

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surrendered prisoners is a clear red line. If

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true, absolutely. But we have to clearly note

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that this was heavily disputed. The U .S. military

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intelligence personnel who were there claimed

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they were fired upon by the Iraqis first, and

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the Bradleys simply returned fire. And journalist

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Georgi Angeir heavily criticized Hirsch's article,

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stating there was no real proof and that official

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military investigations completely dismissed

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the charges. It really shows how the fog of war

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isn't just about what happens on the battlefield.

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It's about how history gets written afterwards.

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It's incredibly hard to know the absolute truth

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of a specific skirmish 30 years later. Speaking

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of how history is written, we really can't ignore

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the political impact of these images. We talked

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earlier about the highway of death becoming a

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powerful symbol. Yeah, sources suggest that those

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very scenes of devastation were a major factor

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in President George H .W. Bush's decision to

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declare a cessation of hostilities the very next

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day. It's what's often called the CNN effect.

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Time magazine noted that while polls showed American

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support for the war remained high, the pictures

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were sickening to many people. Right. There was

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a genuine fear in the White House that if the

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slaughter continued to be broadcast, public support

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would crumble. and the international coalition

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would fracture. It's fascinating to think that

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the appearance of the victory, the sheer visual

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brutality of it captured on film, might have

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actually stopped the war sooner than the tactical

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situation dictated. They easily could have kept

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going to Baghdad, but the optics were just too

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bad. Exactly. And that leads us to how this event

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has permeated pop culture. It's not just debated

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in history books. It's all over our media. Oh,

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totally. If you've seen the movie Jarhead, there's

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that incredibly haunting scene where the Marines

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are walking through the destruction. oil wells,

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the charred bodies in the cars. That is explicitly

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the highway of death. And in literature too,

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Ayn Banks's novel Complicity uses the imagery

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of the Basra Road. It became this touchstone

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for modern mechanized destruction, a stark look

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at what happens when advanced technology meets

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a trapped enemy. But here's where it gets really

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interesting and controversial in the gaming world.

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Did you hear about the Call of Duty controversy?

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The 2019 game Modern Warfare. Yes, this is a

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huge issue. So for you listening who might not

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be gamers in that game, there is a level literally

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called the Highway of Death. It depicts a strikingly

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similar event in a fictional Middle Eastern country.

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And the visual fidelity is incredible. It looks

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exactly like the 1991 photos. But and this is

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a huge. but the game attributes the attack to

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Russian forces. Right. They took a distinct historical

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event carried out by American and coalition forces

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and in the game's narrative pinned it on the

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Russians to make them the clear villains. That

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caused a massive backlash. Unsurprisingly so.

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It was widely accused of historical revisionism.

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You had players and critics pointing out that

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it was rewriting history to blame Russia for

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a highly controversial U .S. attack. Just goes

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to show how powerful the name and the imagery

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of the Highway of Death still are. Decades later,

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it's still an active battleground for narrative.

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It's wild. We've gone from a tactical traffic

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jam in 1991 to a political flash point all the

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way to a video game controversy almost 30 years

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later. It connects right back to what we established

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at the start. This event is entirely about the

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intersection of tactics, law, and optics. So

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let's wrap this up. Looking at all the sources,

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what are the key takeaways here? Well, tactically,

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it was a devastating success. The coalition forces

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effectively trapped and neutralized a significant

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portion of the Iraqi military's equipment. They

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stopped the Republican Guard from escaping with

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their heavy armor, which likely made the entire

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region safer in the short term. But visually

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and morally, it created a situation that looked

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indistinguishable from a massacre, raising serious

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questions about proportionality that we are still

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debating today. Exactly. It perfectly highlights

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the tension between the cold logic of war, which

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is destroying the enemy's capacity to fight,

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and the visceral horror of seeing the actual

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results of that logic piled up on a six -lane

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highway. And it serves as a stark reminder that

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retreat doesn't always mean safe. That is the

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hard lesson. In modern warfare, until you have

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formally and clearly surrendered, you are an

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active target. I want to leave you all with a

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thought to mull over. We live in an era where

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images of war are broadcast instantly, even faster

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than they were on CNN in 1991. The highway of

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death might have hastened the end of the Gulf

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War simply because the images were too much for

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the public to stomach. So the real question moving

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forward is this. In modern warfare, how much

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does the appearance of a victory matter compared

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to the military reality of it? If a tactic is

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entirely legal and highly effective, but looks

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horrific on Instagram or TikTok, can a modern

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military actually afford to use it? Or did the

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camera ultimately decide when the war ends? It's

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definitely something to think about next time

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you scroll through your news feed. Thanks for

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joining us on this deep dive into the real story

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behind the Highway of Death. We'll catch you

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on the next one.
