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So let's just unpack this right off the bat.

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When I say the word hero, what is the very first

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image that flashes into your mind? Oh, instinctively.

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It's probably a guy in a cape. Right. Or maybe

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a firefighter running into a burning building.

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It's a very specific, morally heavy image. I

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mean, it implies courage, self -sacrifice, doing

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something for the greater good. Exactly. It's

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a weighty word. It's supposed to mean the absolute

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best of us. And here's where it gets really interesting

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for you listening at home. What happens when

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you stop looking at the dictionary definition

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and start looking at the actual usage? Yeah.

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Like, what happens when you look at every single

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thing in the world that has just slapped the

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label heroes on its front cover? Well, it stops

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being about morality and starts being about,

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well, everything else. It becomes a lot more

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chaotic. Chaotic is the perfect word. Yeah. Because

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today, we're doing something a little different.

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We aren't analyzing the philosophical concept

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of heroism. We're taking a deep dive into a source

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that usually just gets totally ignored. We have

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the Wikipedia disambiguation page for the word

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heroes. Which, for those of you who don't spend

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your spare time editing wikis, is essentially

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a traffic cop for the internet. It's a massive,

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utilitarian list designed to help you find the

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specific thing you're looking for when you type

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in a really common word. And because heroes is

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such a powerful word, I mean... Everyone wants

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a piece of it. It is a wild ride. Our mission

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today is to navigate this landscape. We're going

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to connect the dots between David Bowie, a box

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of chocolates, the United States Congress, South

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Korean baseball, and wait for it, Thomas the

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Tank Engine. It sounds completely random. Hope

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it does. But when you actually look at the data

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in front of us, it's a fascinating cross section

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of culture. It shows us how one single word can

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be used to title high art symphonies, sell records,

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brand candy and name legislation. So buckle up.

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We are navigating the landscape of heroes. And

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I think we have to start with the sound of it,

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because when I look at this source list, the

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music section is just it's overflowing. It is

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by far the dominant category, and there is one

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entry that looms much larger than the rest. 1977.

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David Bowie? Precisely. The album Heroes and

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the title track Heroes. But looking at the source

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here, there's a detail I think most people miss.

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The quotation marks. Yeah, the source material

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explicitly lists the song as Heroes in quotes.

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Why did he do that? Because he was being ironic.

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You have to remember, in 1977, Bowie was in Berlin

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trying to get clean, trying to reinvent himself.

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The song isn't about Superman. It's about two

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desperate lovers standing by the Berlin Wall.

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Wow. They aren't saving the world. They're just

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trying to survive the day. He was saying they

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could be heroes just for one day. It was a critique

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of the word, not a celebration of it. Which is

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incredibly ironic in itself because culture completely

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ignored those quotes. Totally. The song became

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an absolute anthem. Yeah. It gets used to sell

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cars, it's used in sports montages, the irony

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just got stripped away. That's the first big

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lesson from this list. Once you release a hero

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into the wild, you lose control of what it means.

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And the source material shows this ripple effect

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beautifully. If you scroll down just a bit, you

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see Symphony No. 4, composed by Philip Glass.

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Right, and this is listed as the hero symphony.

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Yeah, and this isn't some rock c - band. This

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is a legitimate classical symphony composed in

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1996 based entirely on Bowie's album. Glass took

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that art rock experimentation and translated

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it into a six movement orchestral work. So you

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have Bowie deconstructing the hero with irony

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and then Philip Glass turning that deconstruction

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into high classical art. that feels like the

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peak of the word's dignity right there. It really

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is. And then the cliff drops off. The cliff drops

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off hard. The genre whiplash on this list is

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incredible because it seems like everyone in

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literally every genre wants that hero's energy.

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It's the ultimate genre agnostic title. Just

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look at the country music entries. You have the

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1986 album Heroes by Johnny Cash and Waylon Jennings.

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Two absolute titans of the genre. And then decades

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later Willie Nelson releases an album called

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Heroes in 2012. In country music, the word hero

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signals something very specific. The outlaw,

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the loner, the person standing against the wind.

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It fits the genre perfectly. But then you pivot

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to the rock and metal section. You've got the

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Swedish power metal band Sabaton with an album

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called Heroes in 2014. Now I know Sabaton, they

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write songs about historical wars, so for them

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the word is literal. They're singing about actual

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people with medals. Right, but right next to

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them on the page is Shinedown, the American rock

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band, with a song called Heroes in 2006, and

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the Spanish rock band Heroes del Silencio. Heroes

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of Silence. That is arguably a cooler name than

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just Heroes. It adds a layer of mystery. But

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this is where the word really starts to shift.

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In metal and rock, heroes is about grit. It's

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about struggle. But as we move down the list

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into pop and dance, the meaning flips completely.

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It becomes euphoric. Exactly. You have Alesso's

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huge hit, Heroes, we could be, from 2014. And

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you have Manzell Marlowe winning Eurovision in

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2015 with a song called Heroes. And Conchita

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Worst has an entry too. Eurovision seems obsessed

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with this word. Because in pop, heroes isn't

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about what you do. It's about how you feel. It's

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an anthem. When Mon -Zelmerlo sings it, he's

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telling the audience, we are special. It's a

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pure dopamine hit. We've gone from Bowie's ironic

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desperation to pure sugar -coated empowerment.

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And it keeps going. Rap and hip -hop are in there

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too. Yeah. Macklemore released a song called

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Heroes in 2023. Tiny Tempo had one back in 2013.

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It spans the entire spectrum from 1977 art rock

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to 2023 hip hop. The key takeaway here for you

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listening is that Heroes is a universal hook.

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Musicians use it because it instantly signals

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something epic, something emotional. It does

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the heavy lifting for the songwriter. Speaking

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of heavy lifting, let's move from the speakers

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to the screen. Because if you think the music

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list was crowded, the film and TV section is

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just a juggernaut. And there is one 800 -pound

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gorilla in the room here. The NBC show, Heroes.

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2006 to 2010. If you were around then, you couldn't

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escape it. Save the cheerleader, save the world.

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Right. But looking at the source list, you realize

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just how much stuff that one show generated.

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It wasn't just four seasons of television. No,

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the list is exhaustive. There's an original soundtrack,

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an original score, a novel called Heroes Saving

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Charlie, and a miniseries reboot called Heroes

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Reborn. It feels like this was the moment where...

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Heroes stopped doing a descriptor and became

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a brand. They tried to trademark the concept

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of regular people getting powers. And it worked.

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For a while. But what I find fascinating about

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the source material is that while NBC was trying

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to own the word in America, the rest of the world

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was using it for totally different things. The

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international entries are wild. The list has

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a Chilean miniseries called Heroes. From 2007.

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But this isn't about flying men in tights. The

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source describes it as a historical drama. It's

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an anthology about the liberators of Chile. So

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in the US, heroes means fiction. In Chile, it

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means history with a capital H. Exactly. And

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then you swing over to South Korea, there's a

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show called Heroes listed as a variety show.

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A variety show. That's a totally different energy.

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That's game shows, comedy skits. And we can't

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forget the anime entry Heroes, Legend of the

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Battle Disks. Well, of course. battle disks.

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So within a 10 year period, Heroes is a gritty

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historical drama in Chile, a variety show in

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Korea, an anime about battle disks in Japan,

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and a superhero soap opera in the U .S. Oh, and

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I should mention the film contrast too. The list

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has a 1977 American drama film called Heroes.

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And right alongside it, a 2008 Indian Hindi film

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also called Heroes. It really shows that the

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word is an empty vessel. You can pour anything

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into it. But my favorite My favorite part of

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the TV section, and maybe the funniest part of

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this whole document, is the episode section.

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Oh, this is a classic Wikipedia quirk. A list

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of every TV show that decided to name a single

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episode heroes. It reads like a fever dream.

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You have the serious high -stakes dramas. CSI,

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NY, Stargate SG -1. The professionals. Shows

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where people actually save lives, where the word

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hero fits the dictionary definition. And then

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sitting right next to them on the list, Beavis

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and Butthead. Yes, the 1993 episode. I'd love

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to know the plot of that episode. I can't imagine

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there was much heroism involved unless they managed

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to open a jar of salsa. It has to be ironic,

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right? But then you have Thomas and Friends.

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The Tank Engine. There is an episode from 1992

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titled... Heroes. You know, that actually highlights

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something deep about the word. To a toddler watching

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Thomas the Tank Engine, a train pulling a heavy

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load is a hero. To a Sargate fan, saving the

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galaxy is a hero. The scale changes, but the

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emotional hook is exactly the same. Someone did

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a good job. Someone did a good job. That might

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be the most cynical definition of a hero I've

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ever heard. Well, wait until we get to the video

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games. Because in that world, hero doesn't even

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mean you did a good job, it just means you showed

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up. The gaming section of the list is huge. And

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you're right, the branding power of the word

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functions differently here. Take the series Heroes

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of Might and Magic. A classic strategy series.

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But think about how the world is used there.

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A hero is a unit type. It's a resource. You buy

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a hero. You upgrade a hero. You can lose a hero

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and just buy another one. It strips the morality

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out completely. In a game... Being a hero isn't

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a moral choice, it's a job description. Exactly.

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Same with Heroes of the Storm, Blizzard's 2015

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game. Or Sonic Heroes from 2003. Sonic Heroes

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is interesting because it uses the word to mean

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team. You play as a trio. Right, but again, it's

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mechanical. It signifies power, agency, the player

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character. It doesn't necessarily signify goodness.

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Even in tabletop RPGs, the list mentions a 1979

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game called Heroes and an Avalon Hill magazine

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also called Heroes. The word just means you were

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the one rolling the dice. That's a little disturbing.

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We've gamified the concept. Yeah. But if games

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strip the morality away, literature seems to

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be trying to put it back in. Authors definitely

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treat the word with a bit more respect, or at

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least more nuance. The list mentions Stephen

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Fry's 2018 book, Heroes. Which is a collection

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of ancient Greek stories. So he's going back

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to the root, the Greek demigods. And if you know

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your Greek mythology, those guys weren't always

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good. They were flawed, violent, sometimes terrible

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people. But they were great. They were larger

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than life. So Fry is reminding us that hero originally

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meant powerful, not nice. Precisely. Then you

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have Robert Cormier's 1998 novel, Heroes. Cormier

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wrote very dark YA fiction and Alan Gratz has

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a 2024 novel by the same name. There's even a

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book series for young boys called Heroes. And

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the 1996 DC Comics title, Naturally. Naturally.

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But then there's a theater entry, a play translated

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by Tom Stoppard, simply titled Heroes. I'm guessing

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that's not about flying men either. No, it's

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a translation of a French play about three World

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War I veterans living in a retirement home. So

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no capes, no powers, just memory. Stoppard uses

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the word to evoke dignity. Quiet Dignity. It's

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the exact opposite of the Eurovision anthem version.

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It's not about being loud. It's about endurance.

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So we've looked at the fictional world. We've

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seen heroes in music, movies, TV, games, and

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books. But the other uses section of this wiki

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page is where reality crashes in. And this is

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where I think the word gets fascinatingly specific.

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This is where the word spills out of the dictionary

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and onto the streets. Literally. Let's start

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with sports. The source lists the Kiwoom heroes.

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A South Korean baseball team. It's a great team

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name. In sports, we always use martial language

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attack, defend, conquer. Calling the team Heroes

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suggests that every player is a potential savior

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of the game. Well, what if you get hungry at

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the baseball game? You might grab a box of Heroes.

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Yes, the confectionary brand by Cadbury, Chocolates.

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This one always cracks me up. Heroes implies

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greatness, bravery, epic deeds. And here, it's

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a miniature version of a chocolate bar. It is

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brilliant marketing, though. A box of heroes

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contains the all -stars of the Cadbury lineup.

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They're positioning the chocolates themselves

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as the heroes of the snack world. It's incredibly

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low stakes. We started this deep dive talking

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about rushing into burning buildings, and now

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we're talking about eating a tiny piece of chocolate.

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But that's the commodification curve. You take

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a sacred concept and you dilute it until it fits

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on a plastic tub. Hero implies greatness. Buying

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this tub makes you feel subconsciously like you're

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participating in something great. Or maybe you're

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just the hero for bringing the snacks to the

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party. That is probably the intended message.

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Save the party. Bring the heroes. Before we get

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too cynical about candy, though, there is one

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category left in this infrastructure section

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that I think redeems the word a little bit. This

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was the big surprise for me. The list has multiple

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entries for physical places, bus stations and

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metro stops named heroes. Right. Heroes is a

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trans -millennial bus station in Bogota, Colombia.

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Heroes Canosas is a BRT station in Mexico. And

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Los Heroes is a metro station in Santiago, Chile.

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This speaks to a massive cultural difference.

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In the U .S., we name stations Main Street or

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Union Station. In Latin America, the concept

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of the national hero, the liberator, is woven

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into the geography of the city. You don't just

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read about them in books. You commute through

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them. Exactly. It grounds the word. It's not

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an abstract concept. It's a physical place. It

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suggests that the foundation of the city, literally

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the concrete, is built on the legacy of these

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people. That feels much more significant than

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a backronym bill in Congress. Oh, the Heroes

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Act. We have to talk about it. The list mentions

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the Heroes Act as a piece of proposed American

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legislation. This is the ultimate example of

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a backronym. And to be clear, we are just looking

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at the naming convention here, not the politics

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of the bill itself. Politicians love to name

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a bill something like Heroes because it's a tool

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for persuasion. Wait, what does it actually stand

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for? according to the source. It stands for the

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Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency

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Solutions Act. That is a stretch. That is a painful

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stretch. It's clumsy, but it's calculated. It

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shows that the word has intense political capital.

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If you label your legislation heroes, you are

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trying to frame the conversation before anyone

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even reads the text. It's branding, pure and

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simple. So let's zoom out a bit. We have traveled

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from the high art of a Philip Glass symphony

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to a box of chocolates. We've looked at South

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Korean baseball, public transit in Chile, and

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a proposal in the U .S. Congress. And Beavis

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and Butthead. And Beavis and Butthead. Never

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forget. What stands out to me looking at this

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whole list is that heroes is a vessel. What do

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you mean by that? It's a container. The word

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itself doesn't just mean one thing anymore. You

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can pour anything into it. You can pour a tragic

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romance into it, like the 1977 film. You can

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pour a high -energy dance track into it. You

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can pour a legislative agenda into it. The word

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is strong enough to hold all of these different

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meanings without breaking. It really is one of

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the most flexible words we have. It works for

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a three -minute pop song just as well as it works

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for a sprawling video game franchise. And it

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works across languages. The fact that the source

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lists heroes with the accent alongside the English

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version shows that the concept is totally translatable.

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It resonates everywhere. But it does make me

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wonder. We started this deep dive talking about

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courage and self -sacrifice. Right. If we name

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our chocolates heroes and our bus stations heroes

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and our variety shows heroes, are we diluting

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the meaning? That is the big question. If everything

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is a hero is nothing a hero. That's the risk

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of semantic satiation. You say a word so many

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times it loses all meaning. When every smack

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is epic and every bill is heroic, maybe we lose

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sight of what the word actually costs. Or does

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it prove that we are just desperate to find heroism

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in everything? Maybe we name our snacks and our

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teams heroes because we want that energy in our

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lives. Yeah. We want to believe that even a chocolate

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bar can be a little bit legendary. That's a hopeful

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way to look at it. We are projecting our desire

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for greatness onto the world around us, even

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onto the tank engine. Especially onto the tank

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engine. Here's a thought to leave you with, something

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that wasn't in the source but feels like the

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inevitable next step. What's that? With all this

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commercialization, from games to candy, what

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if the word hero eventually loses its connection

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to human beings entirely? Oh, wow. What if, 50

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years from now, hero is just a purely commercial

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prefix? Yeah. Like ultra or mega. You don't buy

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the standard size, you buy the hero size. It

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just means bigger or more. That is a chilling

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thought. A world where the word has completely

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forgotten the firefighter and the cape. Something

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for you to mull over. This has been a fascinating

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look at a single word. It's amazing what you

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can find when you just stop and look at the list.

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Always check the disambiguation page. You never

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know what you'll find. Thanks for listening to

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this deep dive. Next time you see the word hero,

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take a second to ask yourself, are we talking

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about Bowie, baseball, or a bus station? See

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you next time.
