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So today, we are looking at a really specific

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mechanism in the music industry. Yeah, the anatomy

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of a career pivot. Right. Because if you look

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at the year 1966, the landscape of popular music

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is just undergoing this radical, almost aggressive

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transformation. Absolutely tectonic. Everything

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is shifting. Exactly. And caught right in the

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center of that tectonic shift is a voice that

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you almost certainly recognize. Even if you just

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know from television later on. Yeah. Exactly.

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But today we are exploring the legendary Della

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Reese, specifically focusing on her 1966 studio

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album. I like it like that. Yes, I like it like

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that. And we are putting this entire project

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completely under the microscope. We're going

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to unpack what actually happens in the recording

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booth, the boardroom and even the trade magazines

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when an artist with a massive established background

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in pop and jazz just decides to pivot hard into

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blues standards. It's such a sharp left turn,

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even the title itself. I like it like that, is

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stylized completely in lowercase. Lowercase with

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an exclamation point at the end. Right. Which

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immediately signals a deliberate break from formality.

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It's a total aesthetic choice. It is. So... Our

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mission for this deep dive is to completely deconstruct

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this album. We're looking at the mechanics of

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a label jump, the inherent friction of having

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a manager take over as the creative producer.

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Is it always a risky move? Highly risky. And

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we're also going to look at the fascinating reality

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of what happens when the people trying to sell

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a record in 1966 fundamentally disagree with

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the historians evaluating that same record decades

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later. It really is the ultimate case study in

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the tension between art and commerce. we're treating

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this 12 -trap album not just as a collection

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of songs, but as a physical artifact of an industry

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in transition. Definitely. By looking closely

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at the specific personnel involved, the producers,

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the arrangers, the songwriters, and contrasting

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that contemporary hype with the retrospective

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criticism, we start to really see the gears of

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the 1960s music business turning. We're going

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to examine the very deliberate choices made to

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engineer a specific sound. And whether that engineering

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resulted in a genuine artistic statement or just

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a calculated commercial commodity. OK, let me

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attack this. Because to understand why I like

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it like that is such a fascinating pivot, we

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really have to establish the baseline of power

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Della Reese brought to the table. Right. She

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wasn't a rookie. Not at all. She was not a developing

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artist trying to find her footing. By the time

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we hit the mid -1960s, she is operating from

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a position of undeniable commercial strength.

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Which was largely built during her tenure at

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RCA Victor. Exactly. That RCA Victor era is the

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bedrock of her industry capital. And to quantify

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that power, you just have to look at one specific

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data point from the year 1959. The single. Yes.

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She releases a single called Don't You Know?

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And it climbs all the way to number two on the

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U .S. Hot 100. Number two. Let's just let's contextualize

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what a number two hit on the Hot 100 actually

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meant at the end of the 1950s. It meant everything.

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Yeah. That isn't a niche jazz chart or a regional

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rhythm and blues chart. That is the mainstream

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undisputed metric of American popular culture.

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Exactly. Holding the number two spot on the Hot

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100 in 1959 requires a staggering volume of physical

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unit sales. people physically going to stores

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and buying the 45. Buying the wax, yeah. And

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it requires ubiquitous radio syndication across

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every major market. It means your voice is essentially

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inescapable. You are a proven blue chip commodity.

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You are. And she didn't just have a flash -in

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-the -pan moment with that single either. She

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capitalized on that momentum at RCA Victor by

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building out a really substantial, diverse catalog.

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He was working constantly. Constantly. She recorded

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a steady stream of studio albums. She recorded

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live albums. She proved she could move LP units,

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not just the shorter 45 RPM singles. Which makes

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her next move so compelling to look at. You have

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this massive success, this proven track record

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at RCA Victor. And then we hit 1965. The jump.

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The label jump. She leaves RCA and signs with

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Larry Newton at the ABC Paramount label. And

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a label jump for an artist of that tier is never

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just a change of stationary. It is a massive

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strategic realignment. High stakes. Very high

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stakes. When Larry Newton brings her over to

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ABC Paramount, there is an implicit understanding.

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that they are either going to breathe new life

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into her existing pop jazz formula, or they are

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going to utilize her massive vocal talent to

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break into new stylistic territory. And their

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initial strategy seems to be, well, establishing

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a solid, perhaps slightly safe beachhead. Right.

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Playing it relatively cool at first. Because

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in 1965, her very first release for the new label

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drops. It's titled Newman and Here, De La Reese.

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And for this introductory statement at ABC, they

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put a highly established producer at the helm.

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Bob Thiel. Bob Thiel. And having Bob Thiel produce

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that initial 1965 record makes perfect sense

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from a label perspective. You want a steady hand

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to transition an RCA star into the ABC Paramount

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ecosystem. You don't want to scare off the fans

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who followed her? Exactly. It is about establishing

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trust both with the artist and with that existing

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consumer base. But the stability doesn't last

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at all. By the very next year, 1966, they are

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preparing her second album for the label. The

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subject of our focus today, I like it like that.

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And there is an immediate seismic shift in the

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personnel. Bob Thiel is out. The producer's chair

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is empty. And the person who steps into that

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role is Lee Majid. Now, Lee Majid is not just

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a random studio hire. No. Lee Majid is Della

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Reese's manager. What's fascinating here is the

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psychological and professional tightrope of that

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dual role. Think about the fundamental duties

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of a manager versus a producer. They're completely

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different jobs. Entirely. The manager is a fiduciary.

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Their mandate is to maximize the artist's earning

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potential, to negotiate the most favorable terms

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with Larry Newton at the label, and to ensure

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the artist's brand remains commercially viable.

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They're looking at the macro level, the market

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landscape. Right. But the producer is supposed

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to be the artistic compass. They're in the booth

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focusing on the micro details. How does the brass

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section sound? Is the vocal take emotionally

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resonant? Does this arrangement actually serve

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the song? So when you merge those two roles into

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one person, when Lee Medjid puts on both hats,

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you are inherently blurring the line between

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creative expression and commercial calculation.

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You have to. Every artistic choice made in that

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studio is now filtered through the lens of a

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manager who is acutely aware of what is currently

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selling on the charts. Let me push back on that

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for a second, though. Isn't it possible that

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a manager who intimately knows the artist's capabilities

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and trusts their talent more than anyone might

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actually be the best person to produce them?

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How do you mean? Well, they don't have to waste

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time translating the artist's vision to a third

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-party producer. They already share a brain in

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a business sense. It is entirely possible. And

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history is full of manager producers who have

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facilitated masterpieces. But the inherent risk

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is the loss of objective friction. The pushback.

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Exactly, the pushback. A great producer often

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challenges an artist, pushes them out of their

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comfort zone, or tells them a commercial idea

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is actually artistically hollow. When the producer

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is also the person whose percentage cut relies

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on the album being a massive hit, the temptation

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to chase contemporary trends rather than artistic

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timelessness is incredibly high. And that dynamic

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is the central lens through which we have to

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view the blues style they decided to adopt for

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this record. Because it wasn't a subtle shift.

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No, it was a hard pivot. And Majid isn't executing

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this vision alone. He knows he needs a musical

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architect to translate this strategy to the studio

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floor. He needs a tactician. Right. And the liner

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notes for the album explicitly credit another

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crucial figure, Bobby Bryant. Bryant is brought

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in to serve as both the arranger and the conductor.

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The arranger is the person who actually builds

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the house. If Majid says, we are doing a blues

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heavy record, Bobby Bryant is the one who decides

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what the rhythm section is going to play, where

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the horn stabs are going to land, and how the

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tempo is going to swing. He is making the blueprints

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real. He takes the theoretical concept of a blues

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style and writes the actual charts for the musicians

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sitting in the room. The fact that Majid and

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Bryant share such a prominent billing on this

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project highlights that this wasn't just some

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loose, let's see what happens jam session. Not

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at all. This was a highly structured, orchestrated

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effort to pivot Della Reese's sound. And that

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structure is incredibly apparent when you look

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at how they built the physical track list. The

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architecture of a 12 -track vinyl album from

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1966 requires a level of deliberate pacing that

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is just completely foreign to the modern playlist

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era. You can't just shuffle it. We have to...

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analyze the psychology of the sequence, side

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one and side two. They have to hook the listener,

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sustain their attention, and convince them to

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physically interact with the turntable. They

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have to want to flip the record over. Right.

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And the overarching aesthetic they chose to glue

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these 12 tracks together was an explicit lean

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into blues standards. They didn't just write

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12 new blues songs. They packed the album with

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covers of established, heavy -hitting compositions.

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And covering established standards is a very

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specific type of music currency. It provides

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immediate context for the listener. Let's look

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at the specific composers they chose to tackle.

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This is where the ambition of the project really

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shows. They include a cover of Billy Eckstein's

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Fool That I Am. And then serving as absolute

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pillars of the album, we have two tracks written

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by the iconic Johnny Mercer. Track one, opening

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the entire album, is Travel in Light. And later

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on, we have Drinking Again. Let's analyze the

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decision to open the album with Johnny Mercer's

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Travel in Light. Mercer is an absolute titan

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of American songwriting. His work is ingrained

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in the cultural subconscious. Everyone knows

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a Mercer tune. By placing his composition as

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the very first thing the listener hears, when

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the needle drops on side one, Majid and Bryant

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are making a declarative statement. It's an anchor

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of legitimacy. It really is. It tells the traditional

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jazz and pop audience, the people who bought

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the RCA Victor Records, don't worry, we are still

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engaging with the great American songbook. We

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are still operating at the highest level of compositional

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quality. We haven't abandoned you. Right. But

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it also allows Della Reese to reinterpret a familiar

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text through this new orchestrated blues lens.

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It is much easier to introduce a new sonic style

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to your audience if the underlying song is already

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a trusted friend. But the pressure of that, if

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you are going to record Traveling Light or Billy

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Eckstein's Fool That I Am in 1966, you are acutely

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aware that your audience has already heard legendary

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definitive versions of these songs. Oh, the definitive

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versions were already out there. You are actively

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inviting direct comparison to the absolute greats.

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That is the gambit. If you succeed, you elevate

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yourself to their peer group. You prove that

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your vocal chops can handle the heaviest material

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in the genre. And if you fail. If you fail, you

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sound like a lounge act doing an imitation. Maded

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acting as the manager producer. Clearly believe

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Della Reese had the vocal sheer force to not

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just survive those comparisons, but to weaponize

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them to prove her blues authenticity. But they

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didn't solely rely on the safety net of Mercer

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and Eckstein. This is the detail in the track

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list that completely shifts how I view this album.

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The original credits. Yes. Della Reese wasn't

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just a vocal interpreter on this project. She's

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actively credited as a songwriter. Which completely

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alters her agency in the creation of the album.

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She holds writing credits on two distinct tracks.

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We have Every Evening credited to Dee Reese,

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and I ain't ready for that, also credited to

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Dee Reese. And the placement of these originals

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is vital. Both of them are on Side 1. If we connect

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this to the bigger picture of album sequencing,

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putting the artist's original compositions on

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the A -side is a massive vote of confidence from

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the label and the producer. Because Side 1 is

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where the commercial battle is won or lost. Exactly.

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You open with Johnny Mercer to hook the audience.

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You establish the blues atmosphere. And then...

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seamlessly woven into that same sequence, you

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introduce Dee Reese, the songwriter. You sneak

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it in right past the gate. You do. It forces

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the listener to evaluate her original work on

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the exact same terms as a Mercer standard. It

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is a brilliant way to establish artistic credibility.

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And she is in good contemporary company on the

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writing side, too. The track list also highlights

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two compositions by Dee Washington. We have If

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It's the Last Thing I Do, placed early on side

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one, and If I Never Get to Heaven, featured on

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side two. So you have this remarkably balanced

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ecosystem on the vinyl. You have a historical

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weight of Mercer and Eckstein, the contemporary

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contributions of Washington, and the deeply personal

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original statements from Reese herself. It's

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bulletproof on paper. It really is a carefully

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curated portfolio designed by Lee Magid and Bobby

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Bryant to present Della Reese as a comprehensive

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blues artist. Someone who can respect the history,

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sing the contemporary hits, and write her own

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chapters. It is a phenomenal theoretical strategy.

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You can just see the logic perfectly laid out

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on the manager's whiteboard. But theory has to

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survive the reality of the marketplace. And the

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critics. Always the critics. When the album was

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finally released in February 1966, the reaction

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it sparked was intensely polarizing. And it provides

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us with a perfect case study in how the immediate

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commercial metrics of the music industry often

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clash violently with the long -term evaluations

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of music historians. Let's dive into the critical

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whiplash. The dichotomy between the trade magazines

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in 1966 and the retrospective jazz critics is

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the most revealing aspect of this entire deep

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dive. It shows us exactly exactly what the industry

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valued in the moment versus what historians value

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in hindsight. Let's start with the immediate

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reaction because the contemporary hype was palpable.

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The trade magazines, the publications read by

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label executives, radio programmers, and record

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store owners were entirely on board with this

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pivot. They loved it. Cashbox magazine reviewed

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the album right at launch in February 1966, and

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their assessment was purely focused on momentum.

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They noted the backing of Bobby Bryant and the

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rhythm section, and they explicitly predicted

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that the album could be a strong candidate for

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chart honors. Chart honors. That specific phrasing

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is the Rosetta Stone for understanding trade

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magazines in the 1960s. It sounds so formal now.

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It does. But Cashbox is not a literary journal

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analyzing the poetic depth of the lyrics. They

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are a business publication. Their job is to tell

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record stores what is going to move inventory.

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When they say chart honors, they are validating

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Lee McGidd's entire managerial strategy. They

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are saying the pivot worked. They are saying

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the pivot is monetizable, they hear the arrangements

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Bobby Bryant put together, they hear the power

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of Reese's vocal delivery, and they recognize

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a product that fits perfectly into the commercial

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demands of 1966 radio. And Billboard magazine

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was even more enthusiastic and a lot more visceral

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in their description. Their review from March

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1966 praises her great gospel style. And then

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they summarize the record as an exciting package

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of both raunchy, hot, funky blues ballads. We

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really need to pause and examine the phrase raunchy,

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hot, funky. I am obsessed with this detail. It

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is clearly a 1966 print typography error. It

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has to be. It is painfully obvious that the reviewer

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wrote raunchy, endy, funky blues ballads, and

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someone at the printing press made a mistake

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setting the type immortalizing hod funky into

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the historical record forever. It's the charm

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of analog media. Exactly. But even looking past

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the typo, look at the vocabulary Billboard is

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employing. Exciting, raunchy, funky. Think about

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those adjectives in contrast to the polished,

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pristine pop jazz image of a vocalist who had

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a number two Hot 100 hit in 1959. Raunchy and

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funky are earthy terms. They imply sweat, They

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imply a groove. They imply something slightly

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dangerous and heavily commercial. It's a grittier

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brand. Yes. Billboard is confirming that the

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blues style Majid and Bryant engineered is hitting

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the listener on a physical rhythmic level. It's

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the ultimate validation for a manager. Majid

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takes over as producer, pivots the sound to something

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heavier and bluesier, and the two biggest trade

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magazines in the country immediately declare

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it a funky, exciting candidate for the charts.

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In 1966, this album is a success story. But the

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verdict of 1966 is not the final verdict. And

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this is where the historical perspective radically

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alters the narrative. Here comes the whiplash.

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When you remove the album from the immediate

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commercial pressures of the 1960s charts and

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evaluate it purely as an artistic statement within

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the jazz and blues continuum, a very different

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picture emerges. Enter the retrospective criticism.

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We have to look at the assessment of Wilfried

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Wald. the author of a biographical guide to the

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great jazz and pop singers. He represents the

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historian's viewpoint here, and his evaluation

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of I like it like that is brutal in its specificity.

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He completely rejects the enthusiasm of Billboard

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and Cashbox. Completely. Friedwald's critique

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is centered on the concept of authenticity, and

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his choice of words is devastatingly precise.

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He called the album an occasionally overly jukeboxy

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attempt to bring out Reese's blues strengths.

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Overly jukeboxy. That is such a loaded, weaponized

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term in the context of music criticism. Let's

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break down why that is an insult coming from

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a jazz historian. Well, to a trade magazine,

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being suitable for a jukebox is the ultimate

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compliment. It means people in bars and diners

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are willing to feed quarters into a machine just

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to hear your song. It means mass appeal. Right.

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It means cash flow. But to a historian like Friedwald,

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jukeboxy implies pandering. It implies that the

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music was manufactured to trigger a cheap, immediate

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response, rather than offering complex, lasting

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artistry. It suggests that Lee Magid wasn't trying

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to capture De La Rees' soul, he was trying to

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capture the loose change of the American public.

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And Friedwald doesn't stop there. He elaborates

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on this jukeboxy attempt by claiming the album

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was actively evoking Dinah Washington and Aretha

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Franklin. Now on the surface, Being compared

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to Aretha Franklin or Dinah Washington sounds

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like the highest praise a vocalist could ever

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receive. You would think. But in the context

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of Friedwald's critique, evoking is a polite

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synonym for imitating. Exactly. He is accusing

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the album of being derivative. He is looking

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at the landscape of 1966. Aretha Franklin and

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Dinah Washington were the undisputed titans of

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that soulful, blues -driven sound. Friedwald

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is essentially arguing that Lee Majed, acting

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as the manager producer, looked at what was dominating

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the market, looked at his artists and said, we

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need you to sound exactly like them. What on

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this costume? Precisely. He is criticizing the

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album, not for lacking talent. He actually concedes

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in his review that her performance on the ballads

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is outstanding, but for lacking originality.

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He views the up -tempo blues tracks as a calculated

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costume rather than a genuine evolution. And

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that sentiment seems to be echoed by the broader

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retrospective community. If we look at the aggregator

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AllMusic, they handed the album a dismal two

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out of five stars. Ouch. And perhaps the most

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damning part of that rating is that they didn't

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even bother to write a review to justify it.

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It was just quietly relegated to two -star status.

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A silent two -star rating from an archival site

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suggests that they view the album as inessential.

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a footnote in her broader career rather than

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a defining masterpiece. So you have this incredible

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tension. A manager produces an album that is

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lauded as an exciting raunchy chart contender

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in its own era, but is later dismissed as a pandering

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jukeboxy imitation by the gatekeepers of jazz

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history. It's a fascinating paradox. But regardless

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of how history would eventually judge it, in

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the spring of 1966, ABC Paramount had a product

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to sell. And the mechanics of how they sold it,

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the physical rollout of the artifact is just

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as fascinating as the music itself. Let's examine

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the single strategy. The life cycle of an album

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in the 1960s was entirely dependent on the strategic

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deployment of singles. You didn't just put the

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record on shelves and hope for the best. You

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had to actively work the market over a period

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of months. And their opening move is very telling.

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In February 1966, the exact same month the full

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LP hits the market, they release the lead single.

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The A -side they choose is Taint nobody's business

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if I do. Choosing that specific standard as the

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lead single is a highly calculated, relatively

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safe choice. It's familiar. It is an established

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blues classic. It immediately communicates this

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stylistic pivot of the album to radio programmers.

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It's recognizable, it's comfortable, and it provides

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an easy on -ramp for listeners. But the B -side

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is where the real strategy lies. The B -side

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to that February single is, I ain't ready for

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that. Which, as we discussed earlier, is one

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of the tracks credited to Dee Reese. This is

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a classic industry Trojan horse. I love that

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concept. Let's explore how that actually works.

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The label knows that radio stations are going

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to play the A side. People are going to buy the

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45 RPM record for the classic standard they recognize.

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But once that physical piece of vinyl is in the

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consumer's home, they are inevitably going to

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flip it over. You're going to play the other

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side eventually. Exactly. By placing Reese's

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original composition on the B side of the lead

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single, they are guaranteeing that millions of

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people will be exposed to her songwriting. It

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is a way of forcing her original artistry into

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the market, riding on the coattails of a safe

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cover song. It's brilliant. It serves the commercial

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need for a hit while simultaneously serving the

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artist's need for creative validation. And then

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we see the pacing of the rollout. They let the

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February single do its work, they let the album

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percolate in the culture, and they wait until

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June 1966 to strike again with the follow -up

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single. That four -month delta is a masterclass

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in extending the commercial lifespan of a project.

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In June, they release, if it's the last thing

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I do, as the A -side. This is one of the tracks

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penned by D. Washington. And they back it with

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a B -side called A Stranger on Earth. By June,

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the initial burst of album sales from the dedicated

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fan base has likely subsided. The first single

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has peaked and is falling off the radio rotation.

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Dropping a second single four months later is

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designed to reignite the entire campaign. It

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gives the sales team an excuse to call the record

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stores again. Exactly. It gives radio a fresh

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track for the summer, and it reminds the general

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public that the album exists. It proves that

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ABC Paramount was fully committed to working

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this blues -style pivot for the long haul. And

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their commitment wasn't just temporal, it was

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technological and geographical. The release formats

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alone tell a huge story about the state of the

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industry. In February 1966, ABC Paramount issued

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the LP in both mono and stereo formats simultaneously.

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This was a vital commercial necessity at that

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specific moment in time. The transition from

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monorail to scariophonic sound was not instantaneous.

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I think we often forget that. We assume once

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stereo was invented, everyone just switched overnight.

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Far from it. Stereo was the premium product.

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It offered spatial separation, a richer, more

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immersive listening experience for audiophiles

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who could afford the new expensive home console

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setups. The fancy living room setups. Right.

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But mono was still the undisputed king of mass

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consumption. AM radio stations, which drove the

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majority of single sales, broadcast entirely

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in mono. Millions of teenagers and casual listeners

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only had inexpensive mono record players. So

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if you only release in stereo, you are alienating

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a massive percentage of your potential buyers.

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Precisely. By absorbing the significant cost

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of mastering, pressing, and distributing two

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separate versions of the album, ABC Paramount

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was ensuring that they captured every single

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dollar available in the marketplace. They were

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covering all their bases. And they were covering

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the globe, too. The distribution network for

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this album was immense. It wasn't just a domestic

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release on ABC Paramount. The record was also

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distributed internationally through labels like

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His Master's Voice and Ampar. The involvement

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of His Master's Voice HMV is particularly significant.

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That label had massive cultural cache and distribution

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power in the United Kingdom and across Europe.

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Huge reach. Ampar functioned as the international

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arm for ABC. This demonstrates that the label

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didn't view Delarise's blues pivot as a localized

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American experiment. They believed that this

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exciting raunchy sound had international viability.

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They were exporting the 1966 American blues pop

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aesthetic to the rest of the world. Which makes

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the final piece of the album's physical legacy

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so incredibly satisfying. Because for all the

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international distribution and all the contemporary

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trade magazine hype, we know that history eventually

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marginalized the album. The Jazz Purists won

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the historical narrative. Right. The two -star

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news and the jukeboxy insults took their toll,

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but the album refused to disappear entirely.

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For all the vinyl crate diggers and physical

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media purists out there listening, this record

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actually had a resurrection. It did. The archival

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data shows a very specific, very telling reissue.

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Soca 1984, an astonishing 18 years after it was

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initially released, I like it like that, was

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reissued on the Jasmine label. If we connect

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this to the bigger picture of musical legacy,

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a reissue on a label like Jasmine speaks volumes.

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Because they aren't a massive corporate conglomerate

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looking for a guaranteed platinum hit. Exactly.

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Jasmine was a label that specialized in catering

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to highly specific, dedicated niches of jazz

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and vocal enthusiasts. The fact that they chose

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to license, remaster, and physically press this

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specific album in 1984 means that a market still

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existed for it. someone still wanted to buy it.

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It means that Will Friedwald's assessment, while

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valid from a critical standpoint, didn't represent

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the entirety of the listening public. It proves

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that there were people in the mid -1980s who

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didn't care if the album was a calculated manager

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-driven attempt to evoke Aretha Franklin. They

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just wanted to hear Della Reese belt out Traveling

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Light and Every Evening Blues. The sheer power

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of her performance outlasted the cynical context

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of its creation. It is the ultimate vindication

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for the artist. Critics can dissect the intentions

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of the producer, they can mock the typographical

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errors of the trade magazines, but they cannot

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erase the emotional connection a listener makes

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with the vinyl. The 1984 reissue proves that

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the jukeboxy sound Lee majored chased actually

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had enduring undeniable appeal. It really forces

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you to reevaluate the entire concept of a commercial

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compromise. So we have pulled apart every thread

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of this 1966 artifact. We started with an artist

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sitting at the absolute peak of the pop tarts

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at RCA Victor, and we followed her through a

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strategic label jump to ABC Paramount. We debated

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the inherent friction of Lee Majors replacing

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Bob Thiel. Navigating the treacherous waters

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of being both the business manager and the creative

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producer. We analyzed the architecture of the

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track list from the anchoring weight of to the

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strategic deployment of her own original writing.

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We experienced the critical whiplash, standing

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in the crossfire between the chart honor predictions

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of Cashbox and the overly jukeboxy dismissals

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of later historians. And finally, we tracked

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the physical vinyl itself from its dual mono

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stereo launch through its four -month single

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strategy, all the way to its quiet resurrection

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on the Jasmine label in 1984. So what does this

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all mean for you, the listener? Why does dissecting

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a forgotten pivot from 1966 matter to how we

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understand music today? It matters because the

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mechanics of the industry have evolved, but human

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nature and corporate strategy have not. The story

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of I Like It Like Dat is the definitive blueprint

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for understanding how an artist's catalog is

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actually built. It is never just a magical, uninterrupted

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flow of pure inspiration. It is a grueling series

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of calculated risks. It involves label executives

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demanding a return on investment, managers trying

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to secure relevance in a rapidly changing market,

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and artists trying to slip their own authentic

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voice into the gaps between the cover songs.

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What a critic deems a derivative failure might

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just be the exact sound a niche audience will

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cherish for decades. This raises an important

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question and it is the thought I want to leave

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you with today. We have spent this deep dive

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dissecting how a 1966 attempt to capture the

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popular blues sound was retrospectively attacked

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for being too commercial, for trying too hard

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to evoke the titans of the era. At what exact

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point does adapting to the cultural zeitgeist

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stop being viewed as a brilliant strategic move

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by a manager and start being condemned as a hollow

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artistic compromise? The line between brilliant

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pivot and jukeboxy pandering is razor thin. It

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is almost invisible. So the next time you are

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listening to the reigning pop star of our current

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era, the artist currently dominating the streaming

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charts, and they suddenly announce a pivot into

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a completely new genre, whether it's a country

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album, a dance record, or a rock revival, ask

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yourself this. When the historians look back

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at this moment in 50 years, will they praise

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the artist as a fearless, genre -defying visionary?

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Or will they look at the producers, look at the

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market trends, and dismiss the whole project

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as an overly jukeboxy attempt to cash in on the

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sound of the moment? History is a harsh critic,

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but as we learned today, the music itself always

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has the final word. Thank you for joining us

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on this incredibly deep dive. Keep questioning

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the consensus, keep looking past the reviews,

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and keep exploring the history hidden in the

00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:17.859
grooves of your favorite records. We will see

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you next time.
