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Welcome to the deep dive. I am absolutely thrilled

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you're joining us today because we're looking

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at a story that honestly, it completely rewrites

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a massive piece of pop culture history. It really

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does. It changes the entire perspective. Yeah.

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So I want to start by asking you, the listener,

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a question, and I want you to picture this really

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clearly in your head. Think about professional

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wrestling in the 1980s. Right, the big boom period.

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Exactly. When you think of the absolute peak

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of that mountain, the global face of the industry.

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You almost certainly picture Hulk Hogan. Unquestionably.

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You picture the, you know, the bleach blonde

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hair, the massive pythons and two very specific

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universally recognized trademarks. A pose in

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the name. Right. The word Hulkamania and that

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iconic pose where he cups his hand to his ear,

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listening to the crowd roar. It's totally etched

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into the bedrock of American pop culture. But

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what if I told you that Hulk Hogan didn't invent

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either of those things? This is where it gets

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crazy. What if I told you that in a twenty twenty

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three interview on the Joe Rogan experience.

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Hulk Hogan flat -out admitted that he took the

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cupped ear pose and the concept of Hulkamania

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from a regional Mid -South wrestler. A guy who

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called his own movement Idle Mania. Yes. I don't

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mean it. It's one of those admissions that forces

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you to completely reevaluate the timeline of

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wrestling history. It really is. You're looking

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at the foundational elements of a billion dollar

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global phenomenon and you realize they were lifted

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directly from a guy operating in a highly localized

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regional market. Exactly. And today we're going

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to unpack exactly who that guy was. The universal

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heartthrob. We are looking at the extensive biographical

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and historical accounts detailing the life, the

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career, and the unbelievable legacy of Michael

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McCord. Far better known to the world as Austin

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Idol. Right. And our mission today is to figure

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out how a construction worker from Florida survived

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a catastrophic deadly plane crash. Which we'll

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get into. It's harrowing. Yeah. Completely rebuilt

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his shattered body and his persona and used an

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absolute master class in psychological manipulation

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to become one of the greatest regional villains

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in the history of the business. And you know

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what's fascinating here is that You don't even

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need to be a wrestling historian to appreciate

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the mechanics of this story. Not at all. This

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is a profound case study in the art of the career

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pivot. Yeah. It's an exploration of the sheer

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power of charisma and psychological manipulation

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over over pure technical ability. Over just doing

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the moves. Right. And perhaps most interestingly,

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it's a look at how severe personal limitation.

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Like a phobia. Exactly. A massive trauma -induced

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fear of flying can inadvertently carve out a

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legendary, highly focused niche. Because he couldn't

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travel. Austin Idle is a man who was forced by

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circumstance to operate within incredibly strict

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geographical boundaries. He had to stay close

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to home because of that. He had to maximize his

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impact in a way that modern. globally touring

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superstars rarely have to think about. Right.

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He couldn't just leave town when the audience

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got bored of him. He had to keep reinventing

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the wheel to keep them furious. OK, let's unpack

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this from the very beginning, because Michael

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McCord's origins do not immediately scream, you

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know, flamboyant wrestling mastermind. No, not

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at all. He was born in Tampa, Florida in October

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of 1949. We were up right there. Yeah. Graduates

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from Robinson High School in 1966 and immediately

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goes into construction. Heavy blue -collar work.

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He's a working -class guy building things with

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his hands, doing grueling physical labor under

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the Florida sun. Which builds a certain type

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of toughness. Definitely, but he has this intense

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burning interest in becoming a professional wrestler.

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The bug bit him. And he eventually persuades

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a man named Mike Graham to train him. Which is

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a huge deal. Right. For anyone who knows Florida

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wrestling, Mike Graham is royalty. He's the son

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of Eddie Graham. The fiercely powerful promoter

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of championship wrestling from Florida. Yes.

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But the training he undergoes, it isn't just

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learning how to properly run the ropes or take

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a theatrical fall. Oh, no. Not in that era. McCord

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is thrown to the wolves. He is stretched by legendary

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tough guys like Bob Roop, Hiro Matsuda, and Jack

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Briscoe. The absolute enforcers of the territory.

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Break down what it actually meant to be stretched

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in the early 1970s Tampa scene. Well, to understand

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stretching. You really have to understand the

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immense paranoia of the territory era locker

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room. They were very protective. Fiercely protective.

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The promoters and the established veterans were

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heavily guarding the illusion or kayfabe that

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what they were doing was legitimate. un -choreographed

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combat. Right, they couldn't let just anyone

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in. Exactly. If an outsider, especially a powerfully

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built construction worker who thinks he's tough,

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walks into the gym, they don't teach him the

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choreography. They don't just hand him a script.

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They break him down to see if he'll quit. Wow.

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When we talk about guys like Hiro Masuda and

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Jack Berthka, we are talking about world -class

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legitimate amateur catch wrestlers. Well, they're

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tough guys. Masuda, in particular, is infamous

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in wrestling history. He was the gatekeeper of

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Florida wrestling. His reputation was terrifying.

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His philosophy was essentially to physically

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torture trainees to weed out the weak ones. Literally

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torture them. He would trap guys in excruciating

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submission holds. Legitimate joint locks. cross

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faces, neck cranks, and apply real pressure.

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Just crank on it until they gave up. If a trainee

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panicked or cried or quit, they were thrown out

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and told never to come back. So it was a hazing

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ritual, but with a very real threat of bodily

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harm. Precisely. I mean, Mitsuda would literally

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break people's bones if he felt they didn't respect

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the business. Wait, really? Look at Hulk Hogan's

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own entry into the business. Mitsuda famously

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broke his leg on his first day. On his first

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day? That is insane. So the fact that Michael

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McCord survived being trained by the Graham family

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and stretched by Matsuda implies that he possessed

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an immense reservoir of physical resilience.

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He had to be incredibly tough. This was a painful,

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exhausting gauntlet. The fact that he made it

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through tells us he had extraordinary, legitimate

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toughness before he ever put on a pair of wrestling

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boots. He didn't just walk in and get handed

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a gimmick. He earned their respect not by being

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flashy. but by suffering in silence. It sets

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up this incredible baseline of toughness for

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him. It really does. So he survives this torture

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chamber, debuts around 1972, wrestles a bit in

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Florida and Alabama, and then fast forward to

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1973. He heads north. Right. McCord finds himself

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in the Northeast, working for Vincent J. McMahon's

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WWWF. The precursor to modern WWE. He adopts

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this rugged tough guy persona. Iron Mike McCord.

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A very standard 70s gimmick. And he is given

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a mouthpiece, the legendary manager Lou Albano.

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There is a very specific, incredibly chaotic

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match highlighted in the accounts from Madison

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Square Garden in July 1973. This is a wild story.

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McCord is facing Chief Jay Strongbow. A massive

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star at the time. Strongbow gets McCord in a

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sleeper hold, and Lou Albano, who is ringside,

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interferes. As managers do. Albano takes a solid

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cast and absolutely smashes it over Strongbow's

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forehead. Brittle. McCord gets disqualified,

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but Strongbow is cut wide open, bleeding profusely

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in the middle of Madison Square Garden. It's

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a huge angle. This is a massive spot. McCord

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is wrestling the top guys. He's challenging Pedro

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Morales for the WWF Championship. He's in the

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main event picture. He's on the absolute biggest

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stage in the country, positioned as a top tier

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threat. making great money, getting huge exposure.

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And then in January 1974, he just leaves. Just

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walks away. He abruptly quits the WWWF. And the

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reason... This is the best part. He hated the

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cold weather in the Northeast. It is an incredibly

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jarring career move. Wait, let me push back on

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this for a second. Yeah. Isn't that just incredibly

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short -sighted? To us, yes. I mean, I have to

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ask you, the listener, have you ever quit a potentially

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massive lucrative career opportunity just because

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you couldn't stand having to scrape ice off your

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windshield in the morning? It sounds crazy. It

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seems insane to walk away from Madison Square

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Garden main events because you don't like snow.

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It does sound absurd to our modern sensibilities,

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absolutely. But if we connect this to the bigger

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picture of the territory system, it makes perfect

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economic sense. Okay. How so? Today, there's

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a massive corporate monopoly in professional

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wrestling. Walking away from the global juggernaut

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usually means a massive step down in pay, prestige,

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and visibility. Right. Where else are you going

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to go? But in the 1970s, the National Wrestling

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Alliance oversaw dozens of regional promotions

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all across North America. They were everywhere.

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Vince McMahon Senior's WWF was just one of those

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territories. Yes, it was highly lucrative and

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centered around the massive New York market,

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but it wasn't the be all and end all of the industry.

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Right. He had options. Exactly. If a wrestler

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like McCord decided he despised the freezing

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winters of New York and Pennsylvania, he had

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the luxury of simply packing his bags and driving

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back down to Florida or Georgia. And they would

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just hire him. The promoters in the South would

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gladly book him. And in fact, they would pay

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him top dollar because he brought the credibility

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of having just main evented Madison Square Garden.

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Oh, that makes sense. He had that New York shine.

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He was a fresh face with Northeast main event

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credibility. So while leaving over the weather

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highlights a certain quirky, independent streak

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in McCord's personality, it perfectly illustrates

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the immense freedom and leverage that wrestlers

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possessed during the territorial era. They really

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were their own bosses. They were independent

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contractors in the truest sense, and their mobility

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was their greatest negotiating tool. That context

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changes the entire framing. He wasn't throwing

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his career away. No, he was just changing offices.

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So McCord goes back down to the warmth of Florida

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in January 1974. He wrestles under a hood as

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a masked villain called the Super Texan. A classic

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wrestling trope. He hangs out in Georgia for

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a bit and everything seems fine. Until it isn't.

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And then we hit February 20, 1975. A very dark

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day in wrestling history. And the tone of our

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story has to violently shift here because this

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is where everything changes forever. Completely

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alters his life. The accounts detail a completely

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tragic event. McCord along with legendary manager

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Gary Hart and a very promising young wrestler

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named Bobby Shane are passengers on a Cessna

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182 Skylane. A very small plane. The plane is

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being piloted by another wrestler. Buddy Colt.

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They are flying from Miami to Tampa. Just a puddle

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jumper flight, really. The conditions that night

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are atrocious. Heavy fog, terrible visibility.

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The worst possible flying weather. And as they

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attempt to land at Peter O 'Knight Airport, the

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plane crashes directly into Tampa Bay. The specifics

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of the crash are deeply harrowing. I can't even

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imagine. You have to imagine the sheer terror

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of that moment. You are in a small cramped single

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engine aircraft. You are disoriented by the fog.

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You can't see anything out the windows. The plane

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impacts the water with incredible violent force

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and immediately the cabin begins filling with

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the freezing waters of Tampa Bay in the dead

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of night. The toll is devastating. Bobby Shane,

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who many believed was on his way to becoming

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one of the biggest stars in the business, is

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killed. A massive tragedy for the industry. The

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others are injured, but McCord suffers horrific

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physical trauma. Life -altering injuries. He

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sustains two broken ankles, several severely

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broken ribs, and deep traumatic lacerations to

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his feet. His lower body was basically crushed.

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He is pulled from the wreckage of this plane.

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Incredibly lucky to be alive. But his body, the

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very instrument he uses to make his living, is

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completely shattered. The physical and psychological

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trauma of an event like this simply cannot be

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overstated. It had to be a nightmare. From a

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purely physical standpoint, McCord is completely

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incapacitated. He couldn't even stand up. Right.

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For a professional wrestler, your feet and your

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ankles are your foundation. You need them for

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everything. You need them to base yourself, to

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run the ropes, to pivot, and most importantly,

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to properly absorb the impact of taking a bump.

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Actually hitting the mat. Exactly. Taking a bump

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without destroying your spine requires strong

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ankles and legs. With two shattered ankles, his

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career was ostensibly over. People probably thought

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he'd never wrestle again. He is inactive for

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months, undergoing grueling, agonizing rehabilitation.

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The wrestling community recognized the sheer

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willpower it took. just to learn to walk properly

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again. Which makes sense. Which is why Pro Wrestling

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Illustrated named him their most inspirational

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wrestler of the year for 1975 simply for attempting

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a return to the ring. Just for trying. But the

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ripple effects of this crash were massive and

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twofold. First, because the profound physical

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inactivity, the inability to train, and the stress

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of recovery, McCord's weight ballooned. How heavy

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did he get? By 1977, he was carrying around 300

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pounds on his frame. 300 pounds. He had entirely

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lost the rugged athletic physique that he had

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suffered so much under Hiro Matsuda to build.

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And the second ripple effect. I have to imagine

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the mental toll was even worse than the physical

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one. The second and arguably much more historically

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significant consequence was the psychological

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scarring. Which is completely understandable.

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Unsurprisingly, surviving a fatal plane crash

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caused McCord to develop severe crippling aviophobia.

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An intense paralyzing fear of flying. Exactly.

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This phobia fundamentally altered the landscape

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of professional wrestling history. Because he

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wouldn't get on a plane. Because McCord adamantly

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refused to get on an airplane for regular travel,

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he effectively localized his career. He couldn't

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go back to New York. He couldn't jump on a flight

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to work a quick tour in California or head up

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to Calgary or seamlessly return to the Northeast

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on a regular schedule. He was stuck driving.

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He restricted his career almost entirely to the

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Mid -South region, territories he could comfortably

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reach from behind the wheel of a car. like Tennessee,

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Alabama, Georgia, and Texas. He effectively boxed

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himself in. He did. If we connect this to the

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bigger picture, this fear prevented him from

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ever becoming a touring national or global star

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during the impending national expansion of the

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1980s. When Vince Jr. took over and went national?

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Right. But conversely, it forced him to pour

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all of his immense talent and creative energy

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into a hyper concentrated geographic area. He

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had to make it work where he was. It allowed

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him to maximize his impact locally. He became

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a regional deity because the fans in those specific

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towns saw him constantly. Okay, let's unpack

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this transformation because this is where the

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legend of Austin Idol is truly born. The Metamorphosis.

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We are looking at a guy who is pushing 300 pounds,

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he's traumatized, he refuses to fly, his ankles

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have been surgically repaired. Not exactly a

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prime candidate for super startup. Right. He

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drops off the radar for a couple of years and

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then he re -emerges in March of 1978 in Fritz

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Von Erich's NWA big time wrestling promotion

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down in Texas. World class championship wrestling

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later on. Exactly. But he doesn't come back as

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Iron Mike McCord. The tough guy is gone. The

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300 pound, dark haired, rugged guy is dead and

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buried. He entirely reinvents himself as the

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universal heart prob Austin Idol. Or the greatest

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names in wrestling. And the look. The visual

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contrast is staggering. He has dropped a massive

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amount of weight. Got completely shredded. He

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has completely rebuilt his physique into a chiseled

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bodybuilder aesthetic. He bleaches his hair bright,

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obnoxious. He starts wearing these incredibly

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flamboyant, tight -eyed ring outfits, and his

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entrance alone becomes this meticulously crafted

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spectacle. You read the accounts of guys watching

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him walk to the ring, step through the ropes,

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and he wouldn't just take his robe off. Oh no,

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it was the whole production. He would step to

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the center of the ring, slowly outstretch his

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arms into a perfect crucifix position, deliberately

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flexing every muscle in his torso, and then he

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would do these excruciatingly slow, arrogant

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hip swivels as he continued to disrobe. So obnoxious.

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It was pure theater. It was an absolute masterclass

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in character reinvention. completely shed his

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past identity. Just erased Mike McCord entirely.

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And what's fascinating here is the underlying

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psychology behind this new gimmick. Let's look

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closely at the evaluations from wrestling journalist

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Dave Meltzer and legendary manager Scott Bowden

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regarding Austin Idol's actual mechanical wrestling

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ability. Because he couldn't wrestle the same

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way anymore. Bowden describes Idol as a marginal

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worker who was somewhat limited in the ring.

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Right. Meltzer echoes this sentiment precisely,

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stating flatly that Idol was not considered a

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strong worker. Now, for the listener, a worker

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is the industry term for someone who mechanically

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executes the physical moves, holds and sequences

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of a match. The actual athletics. They are both

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saying that, technically speaking, Austin Idol

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was not putting on 45 minute technical grappling

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clinics like a Ric Flair or a Ricky Steamboat.

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Not even close. However, They immediately follow

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that up by explaining exactly why he was a massive

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ticket -selling superstar. Which is the most

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important part. Meltzer points out he got over

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on his looks and his arrogant interviews. To

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get over, meaning to connect with the crowd,

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make them care. Yes. Bodhi notes he had an excellent

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grasp of psychology and was great on the stick,

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meaning he was a virtuoso on the microphone.

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Great on the stick. I love that phrasing. It's

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classic terminology. But let me challenge you

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on this. Are we giving him too much credit? What

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do you mean? Was he actually a genius of psychology,

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or was he just really good at hiding the fact

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that his ankles were ruined and he couldn't wrestle

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a fast -paced match anymore? That is the exact

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genius of it. The limitation birthed the innovation.

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Oh, I see. Wrestling psychology. At its core

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is the ability to elicit a specific visceral

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emotional response from the audience. To make

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them feel something. To make them invest deeply

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in the narrative of the conflict without necessarily

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relying on complex physical maneuvers. You don't

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need a thousand flips if they already hate you.

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Idle realized a profound truth about the entertainment

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business. Emotional investment will always trump

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athletic exhibition. People pay you to see a

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fight they care about. He knew his body couldn't

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handle doing a hundred high impact wrestling

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holds every night. So he adapted. He talked them

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into the building. He understood that if he spent

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five minutes on a microphone explaining exactly

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why he was physically superior, genetically blessed

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and universally desired by women while insulting

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everyone in the crowd, simultaneously insulting

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the intelligence and hygiene of the hardworking

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local audience, he would generate immense heat,

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which is the industry term for crowd anger and

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hostility. He weaponized his own vanity. Exactly.

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By the time he actually stepped into the ring

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and did his slow, arrogant crucifix pose and

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those hip swivels, the audience was already in

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an absolute frenzy of hatred. They were foaming

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at the mouth. They despised his arrogance so

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deeply that they would pay top dollar at the

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box office just for the chance to see the gritty

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local hero punch him right in his perfectly bleached

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jaw. They wanted to see him destroyed. He hid

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his physical limitations behind an impenetrable

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wall of pure, unadulterated charisma. It's brilliant.

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He understood that anticipation, character work,

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and emotional manipulation are often far more

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powerful and memorable than the physical action

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itself. That is just brilliant. He figured out

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how to work smarter, not harder. Absolutely.

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And there is absolutely nowhere he utilized the

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psychology more effectively than in Memphis,

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Tennessee, working for the Continental Wrestling

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Association or the CWA. The defining territory

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of his career. We have to talk about his defining

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rivalry, the feud that cemented his legacy. This

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is the stuff of legend. If Austin Idol is the

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flamboyant, arrogant, bleach blonde outsider,

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then his perfect foil, his ultimate arch nemesis,

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was Jerry Lawler. The king. Lawler was the gritty,

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working class, hometown hero in Memphis. He was

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literally the king of Memphis. Nobody was more

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beloved there than Lawler. When Idol arrived

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in December 1978, he almost immediately defeated

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Lawler for the AWA Southern Heavyweight Championship.

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Struck gold right away. And from there, they

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kick off a feud that defines the territory for

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the better part of a decade. Ten years of drawing

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massive houses. What was it about the dynamic

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between these two specific men that made it so

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incredibly potent? It's the classic, timeless

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dynamic of archetypal opposites. If you analyze

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the demographics of Memphis in the late 1970s

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and 1980s, you have a very passionate, blue -collar,

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working -class audience. All right, working people.

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Jerry Lawler was their avatar. He wasn't a chiseled

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bodybuilder. He had a very average physique.

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He looked like a guy you'd see at a local bar.

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Exactly. But he was incredibly tough. He threw

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arguably the best working punch in the history

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of the business, and he constantly defended the

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honor of his city. He was Memphis. Then you introduce

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Austin Idle. Idle bills himself as being from

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Las Vegas, Nevada. Sin City. A city synonymous

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with glitz, glamour, money, and superficiality.

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The exact opposite of Memphis. He has the bleached

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hair, the deep tan, the enormous muscles, and

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an ego the size of the Mississippi River. He

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represents everything the local audience distrusts.

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The arrogant outsider. When Idle cut a promo,

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he wasn't just threatening to beat Jerry Lawler.

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He was insulting the very lifestyle of the people

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sitting in the arena. Calling them fat, lazy,

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poor. The chemistry was explosive because they

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perfectly understood their roles within that

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sociological framework. Lawler was the emotional

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anchor of Memphis and Idol was the invading force,

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the arrogant interloper who desperately needed

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to be humbled. And the lengths they went to in

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order to try and humble each other are just staggering.

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The angles were insane. The specific storylines

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they ran were wonderfully chaotic and deeply

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personal. Let's jump ahead to 1981. Okay. Jerry

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Lawler is embroiled in a bitter feud with a legendary

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manager named Jimmy Hart. The mouth of the South.

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Jimmy Hart decides he needs to eradicate Lawler

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once and for all, so he starts bringing in bounty

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hunters. Hiring mercenaries. And one of the most

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lethal bounty hunters he brings in is Austin

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Idol. The returning villain. They have a match.

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And Idol manages to trap Lawler in his finishing

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submission move, which he called the Las Vegas

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leg lock. Essentially a variation of the figure

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four leg lock. Lawler is trapped in the center

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of the ring. He's in utter agony. His shoulders

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are about to be pinned. So what does the heroic,

00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.039
honorable hometown good guy do? He resorts to

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extreme measures. He reaches into his trunks,

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pulls out flash paper and a lighter, and literally

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throws a fireball directly into Austin Idol's

00:23:02.980 --> 00:23:05.970
face, supposedly burning his neck. Just a massive

00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:08.950
explosion of flame. It is so incredibly over

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the top. It is extreme, but it serves a very

00:23:11.609 --> 00:23:14.710
specific, calculated narrative purpose. It sets

00:23:14.710 --> 00:23:17.710
a tone. Throwing a fireball is a highly visual,

00:23:18.029 --> 00:23:21.569
deeply shocking act. It establishes to the audience

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that the hatred between these two men has escalated

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to a point where the normal rules of athletic

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competition no longer apply. It's not a wrestling

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match anymore. This is a blood feud. It also

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serves a practical booking purpose. It gives

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Idol a legitimate reason to retreat from the

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territory, sell the severity of the burn injury,

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and plot his revenge. He has an excuse to leave

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TV for a while. Which, of course, sets up one

00:23:44.980 --> 00:23:47.299
of the most brilliant slow burn long cons in

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wrestling history. Yes. The Mexican luchador

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angle. Oh, this is a masterpiece. Here's where

00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.960
it gets really interesting, and I want you, the

00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.440
listener, to picture the television studio where

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Memphis Wrestling was broadcast every Saturday

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morning. Because now it's at you. It's the WMC

00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:05.900
TV studio. It's not a massive arena. It's a small,

00:24:06.220 --> 00:24:08.400
intimately packed studio filled with a couple

00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.380
hundred screaming fans right up against the ring

00:24:11.380 --> 00:24:13.720
guardrails. Very tight quarters. The legendary

00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.140
announcer Lance Russell, who is the voice of

00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:19.119
reason and trust for that audience, is standing

00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.920
at the podium. The fans hung on his every word.

00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:25.099
He announces to the crowd with total sincerity

00:24:25.099 --> 00:24:28.519
that he has received an official telegram from

00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.880
Salvador Lutteroff. Now, for the wrestling purists,

00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.940
Salvador Lederoth was a very real, incredibly

00:24:34.940 --> 00:24:38.539
powerful promoter who founded the EMLL promotion

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down in Mexico. It grounds the story in reality.

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You're very smart. Lance Russell reads the telegram,

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which states that Jerry Lawler has been voted

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:49.519
the absolute most popular wrestler in all of

00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:51.960
Mexico City. Massive honor. The studio crowd

00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.619
is cheering wildly. They love this international

00:24:54.619 --> 00:24:57.019
recognition for their hometown boy. They're eating

00:24:57.019 --> 00:24:59.980
it up. Lance Russell then introduces a masked

00:24:59.980 --> 00:25:03.019
Mexican luchador named Black Diamond who has

00:25:03.019 --> 00:25:05.259
supposedly traveled all the way from Mexico City

00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:07.599
just to present Jerry Lawler with a beautiful

00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:09.460
commemorative plaque on behalf of the Mexican

00:25:09.460 --> 00:25:12.400
fans. A beautiful gesture. So Black Diamond comes

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.740
out wearing a traditional mask carrying this

00:25:14.740 --> 00:25:18.059
large wooden plaque. He steps into the ring and

00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:20.660
hands it to Lawler. Lawler is totally unsuspecting.

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Lawler is smiling, waving, the crowd is applauding

00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.839
warmly. And then, without any warning whatsoever,

00:25:27.500 --> 00:25:29.380
Black Diamond grabs the plaque and violently

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smashes it right over Jerry Lawler's head. Just

00:25:32.259 --> 00:25:34.359
obliterates him with it. Lawler crumbles to the

00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.759
mat in a heap. Black Diamond stands over him,

00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:39.660
grabs his own mask, rips it off. And the reveal.

00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:42.019
And it's Austin Idol. The crowd goes ballistic.

00:25:42.180 --> 00:25:44.539
The studio crowd absolutely loses their minds.

00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.859
It is a masterpiece of shock and awe. It is a

00:25:47.859 --> 00:25:51.200
phenomenal example of narrative misdirection.

00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:53.920
Let's break down the mechanics of exactly why

00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.400
that works so flawlessly. These do. First, they

00:25:56.400 --> 00:25:58.700
grounded the angle in reality by using the name

00:25:58.700 --> 00:26:02.099
of a real respected Mexican promoter, Salvador

00:26:02.099 --> 00:26:04.640
Luteroff. Like we said, it added that layer of

00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.279
trust. It added a vital layer of legitimacy that

00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.480
bypassed the fans' natural skepticism. Second,

00:26:10.619 --> 00:26:12.420
they played directly to the audience's pride.

00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:15.000
The Memphis Pride. Telling the Memphis fans that

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.359
their local hero was internationally beloved

00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.299
in Mexico lowered their guard. They wanted to

00:26:20.299 --> 00:26:22.359
believe it, so they accepted the premise. They

00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.539
bought into the feel -good moment. Idle. Understanding

00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:28.579
crowd psychology perfectly allowed the positive

00:26:28.579 --> 00:26:31.039
emotion to build in the room. He didn't rush

00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.720
the attack. He let it simmer. He let Lawler enjoy

00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.400
the applause. He let the fans feel a moment of

00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.779
genuine joy and pride. And then he violently,

00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:42.480
unexpectedly shattered it. Ripped the rug right

00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.819
out from under them. The juxtaposition of the

00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:47.839
heartwarming presentation and the sudden brutal

00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.589
betrayal. generated a level of heat that you

00:26:50.589 --> 00:26:53.009
simply cannot get from a standard wrestling match.

00:26:53.130 --> 00:26:56.029
It was pure evil. It was deeply personal, highly

00:26:56.029 --> 00:26:59.250
theatrical, and flawlessly executed. It's the

00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:01.829
ultimate bait and switch. And that hatred just

00:27:01.829 --> 00:27:04.309
simmers and boils for years. They kept it going.

00:27:04.430 --> 00:27:06.990
They feud on and off, but it reaches an absolute

00:27:06.990 --> 00:27:09.970
boiling point in April of 1987. With a cage match.

00:27:10.269 --> 00:27:12.710
They're booked in a steel cage match. But it's

00:27:12.710 --> 00:27:14.809
not just any cage match. The stakes are raised

00:27:14.809 --> 00:27:17.630
to the absolute limit. It is a hair versus hair

00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:19.970
match. The ultimate humiliation stipulation.

00:27:20.170 --> 00:27:23.130
Whoever loses has their head shaved bald right

00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.059
there in the middle of the ring. Now, Austin

00:27:25.059 --> 00:27:29.059
Idol is famous for his beautiful, flowing, perfectly

00:27:29.059 --> 00:27:32.099
quaffed, bleached blonde hair. It's his trademark.

00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:34.700
It's central to his vanity. And Jerry Lawler

00:27:34.700 --> 00:27:38.599
has his own iconic regal look. They battle inside

00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.339
this steel cage at the Mid -South Coliseum in

00:27:41.339 --> 00:27:44.359
front of a sold -out, rabid crowd. Over 10 ,000

00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:47.880
fans. And Idol wins. Which nobody expected. But

00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.160
of course, he doesn't win cleanly. He only wins

00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.079
because his ally, a very popular wrestler who

00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:56.240
had recently turned villain named Tommy Rich,

00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.339
interferes. Wildfire, Tommy Rich. But Tommy Rich

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:01.720
didn't just run down the aisle and break into

00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.740
the cage. No, that would be too simple. The incredible

00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:08.079
detail here is that Tommy Rich had secretly hidden

00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:10.660
underneath the wrestling ring for the entire

00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:13.180
event. This is legendary. He crawled into the

00:28:13.180 --> 00:28:15.259
floorboards before the doors even opened and

00:28:15.259 --> 00:28:18.160
he sat in the dark in the dust for hours just

00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.509
waiting for the main event. He had to stay completely

00:28:20.509 --> 00:28:22.750
silent while matches were happening right above

00:28:22.750 --> 00:28:25.029
his head. He pops out from under the ring, slips

00:28:25.029 --> 00:28:28.390
into the cage, and helps Idol absolutely destroy

00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:30.769
Lawler. A two -on -one beat down inside a locked

00:28:30.769 --> 00:28:34.009
cage. And then Idol and Rich physically beat

00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:37.269
Lawler down, strap him to a chair, and shave

00:28:37.269 --> 00:28:39.410
his head bald in front of his hometown fans.

00:28:39.769 --> 00:28:42.710
The heat was nuclear. The crowd in the Mid -South

00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:46.250
Coliseum was so enraged by this injustice that

00:28:46.250 --> 00:28:49.730
it nearly incited a full -blown riot. The logistics

00:28:49.730 --> 00:28:52.309
alone of Tommy Rich hiding under the ring for

00:28:52.309 --> 00:28:55.470
a multi -hour event demonstrate the extreme lengths

00:28:55.470 --> 00:28:58.130
they were willing to go to protect the surprise

00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.730
of the angle. They commit it to the bit. Completely.

00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:04.329
But let's focus on the emotional outcome. Shaving

00:29:04.329 --> 00:29:06.970
a wrestler's head, particularly a deeply beloved

00:29:06.970 --> 00:29:10.509
hero like Jerry Lawler, is a ritualistic humiliation.

00:29:10.670 --> 00:29:13.210
It's very visual. It is a visual stripping of

00:29:13.210 --> 00:29:15.779
his dignity and his power. The Memphis audience

00:29:15.779 --> 00:29:17.759
viewed Lawler as an extension of themselves.

00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.180
An attack on him was an attack on Memphis. Exactly.

00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:23.700
So when Austin Idol and Tommy Rich unfairly cheated

00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:26.960
to win and then violently publicly humiliated

00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.640
Lawler, the fans didn't just feel disappointed

00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.339
that their guy lost a match. They felt personally

00:29:32.339 --> 00:29:34.740
violated. They wanted blood. The threat of a

00:29:34.740 --> 00:29:36.920
riot was very real in territorial wrestling.

00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:39.339
This wasn't modern, sanitized sports entertainment.

00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.009
Fans were dangerous. Fans would throw chairs.

00:29:42.049 --> 00:29:44.210
They would try to jump the barricade with weapons.

00:29:44.269 --> 00:29:46.869
They would slash tires and attack the wrestlers

00:29:46.869 --> 00:29:49.450
in the parking lot. Idle actually needed a massive

00:29:49.450 --> 00:29:51.569
police escort just to get out of the building

00:29:51.569 --> 00:29:55.589
alive. The fact that Idle and Lawler were able

00:29:55.589 --> 00:29:58.410
to manipulate the emotions of 10 ,000 people

00:29:58.410 --> 00:30:02.170
to the point of genuine dangerous near violence

00:30:02.170 --> 00:30:06.009
is exactly why the Wrestling Observer newsletter

00:30:06.009 --> 00:30:08.710
rightfully awarded them the Feud of the Year.

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:11.940
for 1987. It totally deserved it. It was the

00:30:11.940 --> 00:30:15.240
absolute zenith of emotional storytelling in

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.420
that era. It's just staggering to think about

00:30:17.420 --> 00:30:20.039
the absolute psychological control they had over

00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.859
that audience. They held them in the palm of

00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:24.220
their hands. And Idol was doing incredibly innovative

00:30:24.220 --> 00:30:27.519
things outside of Memphis too. Let's look at

00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.000
his time in the Carolinas, working for Jim Crockett

00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.619
promotions between 1981 and 1982. A very traditional

00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:35.599
wrestling territory. There's a specific tactic

00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.359
he used that I think is just brilliant and it

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.240
shows how far ahead of his time he was. The camera

00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.900
gimmick. Austin Idol started bringing an 8mm

00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:45.319
film camera down to ringside. Just walking down

00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.490
the aisle with it. While other wrestlers were

00:30:47.490 --> 00:30:50.049
having their matches, Idol would stand on the

00:30:50.049 --> 00:30:53.029
floor holding this camera and physically record

00:30:53.029 --> 00:30:54.789
them. Pointing it right at them. And you read

00:30:54.789 --> 00:30:56.890
the accounts from guys in the locker room back

00:30:56.890 --> 00:30:59.809
then? The other wrestlers were genuinely furious

00:30:59.809 --> 00:31:02.410
about this. Oh, they hated it. Now, in today's

00:31:02.410 --> 00:31:05.529
world, everyone has a 4K camera in their pocket.

00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:08.470
We are constantly recording everything. But in

00:31:08.470 --> 00:31:11.829
1981, this was a massive deal. Why was this such

00:31:11.829 --> 00:31:14.589
an effective way to get under both the fans and

00:31:14.589 --> 00:31:16.730
the wrestler's skin? What's fascinating here

00:31:16.730 --> 00:31:19.730
is how it played on the specific paranoia of

00:31:19.730 --> 00:31:24.029
the era. The KFA protection again. Yes. In 1981,

00:31:24.490 --> 00:31:27.509
video equipment was bulky, expensive, and generally

00:31:27.509 --> 00:31:30.569
restricted exclusively to the television production

00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.970
crew. He didn't just carry a camera around. By

00:31:32.970 --> 00:31:36.509
bringing his own 8mm camera to ringside, Idol

00:31:36.509 --> 00:31:38.930
was violating the unwritten rules of the locker

00:31:38.930 --> 00:31:42.170
room. In the kayfabe reality of the show, it

00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:44.630
was viewed as a massive invasion of privacy.

00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:46.990
He was crossing a line. He was effectively saying,

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.650
I am scouting you. I am studying your weaknesses.

00:31:49.890 --> 00:31:51.950
I am looking for your flaws so I can exploit

00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:54.269
them and take your championship. And he didn't

00:31:54.269 --> 00:31:56.869
care who saw him doing it. It projected an immense

00:31:56.869 --> 00:31:59.109
amount of arrogance because he wasn't even bothering

00:31:59.109 --> 00:32:01.509
to hide his intentions. He was doing it right

00:32:01.509 --> 00:32:04.369
in their faces. It's incredibly disrespectful

00:32:04.369 --> 00:32:07.430
in the context of the sport. Furthermore, It

00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:09.990
created a visually unique silhouette for the

00:32:09.990 --> 00:32:12.269
television viewers. Oh, visually. Yeah. When

00:32:12.269 --> 00:32:16.009
fans saw Idol at ringside with a camera peering

00:32:16.009 --> 00:32:18.549
through the lens, it immediately communicated

00:32:18.549 --> 00:32:21.210
that he was up to something devious and calculating.

00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:24.329
He looked like a spy. It was a subtle, nonviolent

00:32:24.329 --> 00:32:27.690
way to generate immense dislike, proving once

00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:30.769
again that his grasp of psychological manipulation

00:32:30.769 --> 00:32:33.890
was far superior to his physical wrestling abilities.

00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:36.250
He was playing 3D chess while everyone else was

00:32:36.250 --> 00:32:38.250
just practicing headlocks. That's a great way

00:32:38.250 --> 00:32:40.250
to put it. And speaking of doing the unexpected,

00:32:40.329 --> 00:32:42.349
there's another detail in his career map that

00:32:42.349 --> 00:32:44.650
seems completely contradictory. And I really

00:32:44.650 --> 00:32:47.549
want your take on this. The Japan trips. Yes.

00:32:47.789 --> 00:32:50.369
We spent a lot of time talking about how the

00:32:50.369 --> 00:32:55.190
1975 plane crash left Austin Idol with a severe,

00:32:55.410 --> 00:32:58.349
crippling fear of flying. The defining limitation

00:32:58.349 --> 00:33:00.549
of his career. It kept him locked in the Mid

00:33:00.549 --> 00:33:04.319
-South territories. But. His career record clearly

00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.799
shows that he embarked on multiple tours of Japan.

00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.619
He sure did. He wrestled for All Japan Pro Wrestling

00:33:09.619 --> 00:33:15.069
or AJPW in 1980, 1987 and 1988. Now, last time

00:33:15.069 --> 00:33:17.670
I checked a map, you cannot drive a Ford pickup

00:33:17.670 --> 00:33:20.190
truck from Memphis, Tennessee to Tokyo, Japan.

00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:22.269
No, you certainly cannot. He had to have gotten

00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:25.089
on an airplane. He did. He's over there teaming

00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:28.829
with massive hard -hitting stars like Stan Hansen,

00:33:29.009 --> 00:33:31.690
facing guys like Jumbo Saruta and the great Kabuki.

00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:34.380
Legendary Japanese and foreign talent. He and

00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:37.440
Hanson even win the PWF World Tag Team Championship

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:41.039
in 1987. How on earth does a man with severe

00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.759
aviophobia, who refuses to fly from Memphis to

00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.619
New York, manage to fly 14 hours across the Pacific

00:33:46.619 --> 00:33:49.019
Ocean? It is a remarkable contradiction, and

00:33:49.019 --> 00:33:51.460
it highlights a very pragmatic human element

00:33:51.460 --> 00:33:53.740
of the wrestling business. The fear of flying

00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:57.299
was very real, and it demonstrably dictated 95

00:33:57.299 --> 00:34:00.119
% of his career choices and limited his national

00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.400
exposure. However, the financial incentives offered

00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:05.390
by Japanese prom - during the 1980s were astronomical.

00:34:05.630 --> 00:34:08.010
They paid incredibly well. All Japan Pro Wrestling,

00:34:08.409 --> 00:34:10.969
run by the legendary Giant Baba, paid incredibly

00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:14.170
well, treats a foreign talent like absolute royalty,

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:16.750
and offered a level of prestige that was hard

00:34:16.750 --> 00:34:19.070
to ignore. You could make a year's salary in

00:34:19.070 --> 00:34:21.789
a few weeks. We can only speculate on the exact

00:34:21.789 --> 00:34:24.650
mechanics of how he managed it, but it is highly

00:34:24.650 --> 00:34:27.980
likely that Idol simply gritted his teeth. perhaps

00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:30.800
utilized heavy medication or severe mental conditioning

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.139
to endure those excruciating 14 -hour flights

00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:37.239
strictly for those massive concentrated paydays.

00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.440
So everyone has a price for facing their worst

00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.219
nightmare. Exactly. What this tells us is that

00:34:42.219 --> 00:34:44.539
while his phobia was a massive limitation, he

00:34:44.539 --> 00:34:47.079
possessed the sheer willpower to override it

00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.320
when the stakes or the paycheck were high enough.

00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:51.320
He forced himself to do it. And what's equally

00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.239
impressive... is his success once he got there.

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.860
How did his style translate? Well, the Japanese

00:34:56.860 --> 00:34:59.340
fans during that era strongly preferred strong

00:34:59.340 --> 00:35:02.760
style or royal road wrestling, highly legitimate,

00:35:03.019 --> 00:35:05.219
hard hitting, technically proficient grappling.

00:35:05.500 --> 00:35:08.139
Very serious athletic competition. Idol style

00:35:08.139 --> 00:35:10.519
was the exact opposite. It was all stalling,

00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:13.460
posing in Memphis theatrics. Walking around the

00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:16.380
ring, arguing with the referee. Yet winning a

00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:19.719
major tag team title alongside a legendary brawler

00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.960
like Stan Hanson. proves that his charisma and

00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.880
character work translated across vast cultural

00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.019
and language barriers. They didn't even speak

00:35:28.019 --> 00:35:30.519
English, but they understood the arrogance. The

00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.860
Japanese fans still responded to the sheer magnetism

00:35:33.860 --> 00:35:37.019
of the universal heartthrob. That is just incredible.

00:35:37.179 --> 00:35:40.280
He faces his ultimate terror, flies across the

00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.619
world, wins a championship doing his arrogant

00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:44.159
gimmick in front of a crowd that doesn't even

00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.340
speak his language, and then flies right back

00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:48.719
to Memphis to keep terrorizing Jerry Lawler.

00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.650
A truly unique career path. So we move into the

00:35:51.650 --> 00:35:54.889
late 1980s and the 1990s. The territory system

00:35:54.889 --> 00:35:57.909
starts to collapse entirely as the WWU goes national

00:35:57.909 --> 00:36:01.599
and buys up all the local television time. Idle

00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.320
starts winding down his in -ring career. He wrestles

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:06.739
less frequently, does some shows for the USWA,

00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:09.000
and officially retires from active competition

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:12.300
in 1998. Steps away from the ring. And what does

00:36:12.300 --> 00:36:14.840
the universal heartthrob do when he hangs up

00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.500
the tie -dyed boots? Something completely different.

00:36:17.699 --> 00:36:19.900
He becomes a real estate investor. Which is pretty

00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:22.039
fine. Which honestly feels like a very fitting

00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.420
career for a guy who knows how to sell a big

00:36:24.420 --> 00:36:27.019
idea and negotiate a deal. He was always a great

00:36:27.019 --> 00:36:29.300
salesman. But the story doesn't end there, does

00:36:29.300 --> 00:36:32.300
it? Because there is an entire Idolmania renaissance

00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.239
that takes place in the modern era, proving that

00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:38.079
his mind for the business never dulled. Indeed

00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:40.599
there is. Idol transitions out of full -time

00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:43.159
wrestling, but his legacy and his ability to

00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.639
communicate never faded. He stays connected to

00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.019
the fans. In 2011, he breaks his retirement for

00:36:49.019 --> 00:36:52.010
a single night. winning a five -way match just

00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:54.289
to prove he still could. Just a cameo, really.

00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:56.750
He starts dipping his toes back into the industry

00:36:56.750 --> 00:36:59.409
through media, launching a radio show in 2012,

00:36:59.829 --> 00:37:02.070
and eventually hosting his own show, Austin Idol

00:37:02.070 --> 00:37:04.909
Live, in 2017. Getting back on the microphone.

00:37:05.170 --> 00:37:07.550
But his most significant modern contribution

00:37:07.550 --> 00:37:10.690
begins in 2017 when he returns to television

00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:13.599
as a manager. first for Nick Aldis, and then

00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.920
forming a massive dominant faction in the modern

00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.039
incarnation of the National Wrestling Alliance,

00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.239
the NWA. Yes, Idolmania Sports Management. This

00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:26.400
part of his career completely blew me away. It's

00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.440
a great late career run. In 2021, he founds the

00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:32.679
stable in the NWA. He is the mouthpiece, the

00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:34.900
mastermind, the overarching architect. Doing

00:37:34.900 --> 00:37:36.980
what he does best. He takes a wrestler named

00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:41.190
Tyrus. a massive, imposing, heavily tattooed

00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:45.050
guy, and manages him all the way to the NWA World's

00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:47.690
Heavyweight Championship. The top prize. He brings

00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:50.570
in a masked wrestler named Sion, who is portrayed

00:37:50.570 --> 00:37:53.489
in the storyline as Idol's own son, and helps

00:37:53.489 --> 00:37:55.349
him win the National Heavyweight Championship.

00:37:55.630 --> 00:37:57.630
Keeping it in the family, so to speak. At one

00:37:57.630 --> 00:38:00.570
specific point, between November 2022 and February

00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:04.210
2023, Idol's stable held nearly every single

00:38:04.210 --> 00:38:07.050
men's championship in the NWA. Complete dominance

00:38:07.050 --> 00:38:09.590
of the promotion. He is in his 70s, and he is

00:38:09.590 --> 00:38:12.909
still orchestrating total dominance. It really

00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:14.670
serves as a reminder to you listening right now

00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:17.030
that true talent, especially the ability to speak,

00:38:17.210 --> 00:38:19.590
to manipulate a crowd, to understand exactly

00:38:19.590 --> 00:38:21.409
what people want to see that doesn't age out.

00:38:21.510 --> 00:38:23.750
It's a timeless skill. Your knees might give

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out. Your impaired ankles might hurt. But if

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you have a great mind for the psychology of your

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industry, you can remain relevant forever. That

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is precisely the takeaway. Austin Idol in the

00:38:34.780 --> 00:38:37.960
2020s is utilizing the exact same psychological

00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.719
tools he developed in 1978. The same playbook.

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He doesn't need to take a bump or run the ropes

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anymore. He stands at ringside, commands attention

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with his voice and his presence, draws the ire

00:38:48.019 --> 00:38:50.639
of the crowd, and elevates the wrestlers under

00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.260
his charge. He takes the heat off them and puts

00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:56.119
it on himself. He contrasts Tyrus' silent physical

00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.199
menace with his own loud flamboyant arrogance.

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It proves conclusively that the foundation of

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his legendary status was never his physical athleticism.

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It was always his intellect and his deep understanding

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of human emotion. So what does this all mean?

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When we pull back and look at the entirety of

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.480
Michael McCord's life, what is the ultimate legacy

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.099
of Austin Idol? If we synthesize everything we've

00:39:18.099 --> 00:39:20.199
discussed today, Austin Idol is the ultimate

00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.440
example of the power of pivoting in the face

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of disaster. Surviving and adapting. He faced

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a devastating, life -altering event in the 1975

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plane crash. It shattered his body, and the resulting

00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.840
phobia severely restricted his geographical mobility.

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It should have ended his career. For the vast

00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.119
majority of athletes, that would be the definitive

00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:44.960
end of the road. Instead, he completely reimagined

00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.550
his physical presentation. He became a new person.

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He recognized his own newly acquired technical

00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:53.510
limitations and consciously chose to master the

00:39:53.510 --> 00:39:56.349
psychological aspects of wrestling. The promos,

00:39:56.429 --> 00:39:58.230
the character work, the emotional manipulation.

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He turned his weakness into an absolute weapon.

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Because he couldn't travel the world, he focused

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his immense energy intensely on a single region,

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the Mid -South, and cultivated a rivalry with

00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:11.369
Jerry Lawler that became the stuff of absolute

00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:13.760
legend. He turned a massive career restriction

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into a focused laser -like beam of success. I

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love that. He took the strict boundaries that

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were forced upon him by trauma and he built an

00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.559
absolute empire inside of it. An empire of heat.

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Which brings us to a final lingering thought.

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I want to take you back to the very beginning

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of this deep dive to that 2023 Joe Rogan interview.

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Tell me full circle. Hulk Hogan, the undisputed

00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.449
global icon of the 1980s wrestling boom. openly

00:40:38.449 --> 00:40:40.949
admitted that he watched Austin Idol. He was

00:40:40.949 --> 00:40:43.230
taking notes. He saw the bleach blonde hair.

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He saw the unmatched charisma. He heard the term

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Idol mania. He saw the crowd erupt when Idol

00:40:49.590 --> 00:40:52.449
cut his hand to his ear to draw out the booze.

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And he took it. And Hogan took those exact elements,

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flipped them to make himself the hero, put them

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on a national television platform with the expanding

00:41:01.909 --> 00:41:05.389
WWE and became a billionaire pop culture deity.

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It's the ultimate butterfly effect. So I want

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to leave you with this provocative question to

00:41:10.130 --> 00:41:13.190
mull over. If Michael McCord had never gotten

00:41:13.190 --> 00:41:16.110
onto that Cessna in February of 1975, if the

00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:18.269
weather was clear, if that plane had landed safely

00:41:18.269 --> 00:41:20.889
in Tampa and he had never developed a crippling

00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:23.849
fear of flying, would Austin Idol have eventually

00:41:23.849 --> 00:41:26.570
taken that flamboyant act back to New York? It's

00:41:26.570 --> 00:41:28.269
entirely possible. Would he have been the one

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to capture the imagination of the world instead

00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:32.550
of Hulkamania running wild? Would the entire

00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:35.309
1980s have been defined by the global dominance

00:41:35.309 --> 00:41:38.389
of the universal heart grab? We will never know,

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but it is fascinating to consider. It is truly

00:41:41.610 --> 00:41:44.469
one of the greatest what ifs in the history of

00:41:44.469 --> 00:41:46.570
entertainment. Thank you so much for joining

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us on this deep dive. Keep questioning the narratives.

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Keep looking for the true origins of the pop

00:41:51.650 --> 00:41:54.090
culture you love and keep exploring the hidden

00:41:54.090 --> 00:41:55.409
histories all around you.
