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Welcome to the deep dive. If you're joining us

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today, you're probably already tracking the complexities

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of macroeconomic policy. Yeah. Or maybe you're

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prepping for an economics class. Right. Or just,

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you know, trying to make sense of the financial

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news when they talk about the Federal Reserve.

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Or you're just insanely curious about how the

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economy actually works behind the scenes. Which

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is a great reason to be here. It is. Because

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today our mission is to thoroughly unpack a single,

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honestly quite dense Wikipedia article. It's

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about the ISMP model. The investment savings

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monetary policy model. Exactly. And we're going

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to build a mental map of the economy using just

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a few key variables. We're talking interest rates,

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inflation, output, consumer spending, and of

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course, the Federal Reserve. And I know that

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sounds like dry academia. A little bit, yeah.

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But it's actually not. It's really the source

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code for how central banks attempt to manage

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our reality. That's how they map out their decisions.

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And we even have a surprising academic rivalry

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to get into later on. Oh yeah, the controversy.

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Right, about whether this model, which is widely

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used, actually hides the most important parts

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of the economy. But let's start with the blueprint.

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What is the ISMP model? Let's lay the foundation.

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So the core definition from the text we're looking

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at says, the ISMP model is a macroeconomic tool

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specifically designed to display short run fluctuations.

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And we really need to emphasize that phrase,

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short run fluctuations. Why is that so critical?

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Because in macroeconomics, the difference between

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the short run and the long run is, well, it changes

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the entire physics of the economy you're looking

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at. OK, so what does short run imply here? It

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implies that certain things in the economy haven't

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had time to adjust yet. Specifically, prices

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and wages. We call them sticky. Sticky prices.

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Right. If the central bank suddenly changes the

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interest rate today, your local coffee shop doesn't

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instantly print new menus with lower prices.

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Yeah, that takes time. Exactly. And your boss

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doesn't immediately call you in to renegotiate

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your salary because those prices are sticky.

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A shift in monetary policy has a very real immediate

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impact on actual economic output and employment.

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Got it. So the ISMP model is mapping that specific

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window of turbulence, the immediate reaction.

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Yeah, the reactive phase before the broader economy

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has time to reach some new long -term equilibrium.

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OK, so in this short run window, the text lists

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three main things this model tracks, the holy

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trinity of variables here, the interest rate,

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inflation, and output. Those three are inherently

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linked in this closed system. It kind of reminds

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me of a dashboard in a car. How so? Like if you

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change one dial, say you tweak the monetary policy

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dial, it automatically forces the needles to

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move on the other gauges, like inflation and

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output. You can't just change one thing in isolation.

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That is a perfect analogy. It's a highly interconnected

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machine. And to understand the whole machine,

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we really have to look at the individual gears

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first. Let's do that. Let's look at the first

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gear, the MP curve. The Federal Reserve's main

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lever. Right. MP stands for monetary policy.

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So I want you, the listener, to visualize a graph

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with us, just a basic two -axis graph. Keep it

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simple in your mind. The vertical axis, the y

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-axis going up and down, is the real interest

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rate. OK. And the horizontal axis, the x -axis

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going left or right, is the inflation rate. Right.

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And the text points out that the MP curve displays

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a positive relationship. It's an upward sloping

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curve. Upward sloping, meaning as inflation moves

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right, meaning it increases. The real interest

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rate moves up. But why? Like physically, what

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is driving that positive relationship? Well,

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the driver of that entire line is the Federal

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Reserve or whichever central bank you're looking

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at. The upward slope isn't some natural law of

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nature. It's a mechanical rule built into the

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model to represent how the Fed behaves. OK, so

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it's mapping human policy decisions. Exactly.

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When inflation starts to heat up, moving to the

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right on your mental graph, the central bank

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reacts by raising the real interest rate to cool

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things down. They hike rates. To make borrowing

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more expensive. Right. And if inflation drops,

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they lower rates to stimulate things. So the

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curve slopes upward because it mathematically

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assumes the central bank is always going to fight

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inflation by raising the cost of borrowing. So

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a movement along that curve is just the Fed doing

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its normal day to day job. Right. Just following

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the standard playbook. But the text gives us

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a specific scenario where the Fed takes a much

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bigger action. It talks about a target decrease

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in the federal funds rate. Now, that is different.

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That is a regime change. And the text says, this

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action shifts the entire MP curve to the right.

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Not just moving along the line, but picking the

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whole line up and shoving it to the right. Right.

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And let's painfully break down the dual outcome

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the text explicitly states here, because this

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is huge. It says, shifting the MP curve right

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results in a decrease in the real interest rate

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and an increase in the inflation rate. And that

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right there is the fundamental trade -off of

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monetary policy. It's the package deal. Exactly.

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When the Fed steps in to artificially lower their

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target rate, they are explicitly accepting a

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trade -off. They are saying, we want lower real

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interest rates to help the economy, but we know

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the mathematical cost of that is higher inflation.

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You can't get one without the other. You really

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can't. And that's why understanding this model

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matters so much for anyone trying to decipher

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policy. It removes the illusion that central

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bankers have magic wands. They just have levers.

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Levers with very strict consequences. OK, let's

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switch gears to the second half of the model.

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We've got the MP curve. Now we need the IS curve.

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Investment savings. Right. And this represents

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basically everyone else. Consumers, the government,

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total output. A real physical economy. So let's

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redraw our mental graph. The vertical axis remains

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the real interest rate. Same as before. But now,

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the horizontal axis is not inflation. It's total

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output, which the text labels as Q. Total output,

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Q. Basically think of it as gross domestic product,

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all the goods and services we produce. Now here

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is a crucial difference. The text highlights

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that the IS curve is a negative relationship.

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It slopes downward. Right. From top left down

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to bottom right. And the core rule from the text

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is that an increase in the interest rate produces

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lower total output, Q. Which makes intuitive

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sense if you think about how normal people and

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businesses operate. Walk us through that. If

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the real interest rate is really high, so you're

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way up on that vertical axis, it means borrowing

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money is incredibly expensive. Mortgages are

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high. Car loans are high. Exactly. So what happens?

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You don't buy the new car. A business decides

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not to build that new warehouse because the loan

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is too expensive. They just save their money

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instead. Right. And because everyone stops borrowing

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and spending, total output Q shrinks, it moves

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to the left. But as interest rates drop, loans

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get cheap, people buy things, businesses expand,

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and output moves to the right. It grows. So if

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we connect this back to the M key curve we just

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talked about, if the Fed fights inflation and

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interest rates go up, that directly crushes total

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output on the IS curve. You're seeing the connection.

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Yes. But who actually moves the IS curve? Because

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the Fed moves the MP curve. Who has the steering

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wheel for IS? The text notes it's the actions

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of the government and consumers. So not the central

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bank? No. The Fed has no direct control over

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the IS curve itself. They only control the interest

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rate on the vertical axis. OK, so the text gives

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another step -by -step scenario for this side

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of the model. The action is an increase in either

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consumer spending or government spending. Like

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a massive stimulus bill. Right, like an infrastructure

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package. The movement from that action, according

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to the text, is the IS curve shifts rightwards.

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The whole line moves right. And the result, and

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this is a key phrase, this results in an increase

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in total output for any level of the interest

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rate. That phrase is everything. For any level

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of the interest rate. Meaning the government

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can just brute force economic growth, even if

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borrowing is expensive. Precisely. If the government

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just dumps a trillion dollars into building roads

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and bridges, that directly injects demand into

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the system. It doesn't matter if the interest

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rate is high or low at that exact moment. That

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sheer volume of spending forces total output,

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Q, to expand outward. So summarizing this, the

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Fed controls the MP curve. You, the consumer,

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and the government, you control the IS curve.

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That's the setup. So let's crash them together.

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Section 4, analyzing the intersection. The chain

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reaction. This is where the model actually comes

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alive. We bring both curves onto the same graph.

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Where they cross is the current state of the

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economy. And the text has a very specific analysis

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example that I want to walk through, like, really

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slowly. Economic dominoes falling. Let's do it.

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OK, domino one, a lowering of the federal funds

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target. The central bankers make their decision.

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Domino two, the MP curve shifts to the right.

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The policy takes effect on the graph. Domino

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three. we get a lower interest rate and higher

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inflation. The mechanical trade -off we discussed.

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The cost of borrowing drops. And here is Domino

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Four, the crossover. The text says this newly

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lowered interest rate causes a downward movement

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along the IS curve. Notice it says a movement

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along the curve, not a shift of the curve. Right.

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And this was kind of an aha moment for me reading

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this, because the output of the MP curve, that

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new lower interest rate, it literally becomes

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the input for the IS curve. Yes. It's a handoff.

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The central bank did their part. They lowered

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the rate. Now the consumers and the businesses

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react to that new low rate. They slide down their

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existing demand curve. Because debt is cheap

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again. Exactly. And that leads to the final domino.

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Domino five. Output increases. The grand finale.

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The elegant machine at work. The Fed pulls a

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lever in a boardroom, which manipulates the MP

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curve, which lowers the interest rate, which

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slides down the consumer and government IS curve,

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ultimately resulting in a boom in total output.

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Cue. It's honestly beautiful when you lay it

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out like that. It's a very satisfying tool for

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economists to use. It maps cause and effect so

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cleanly. But it wasn't always the standard tool,

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was it? No, not at all. Yeah, the text introduces

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an older model, the predecessor. It's called

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the ISLM model. The classic ISLM. OK. If you

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took econ a few decades ago, this is what you

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lived and breathed. So defining ISLM, the text

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notes, it describes equilibrium in two markets,

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the commodity market and the money market. Right.

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The IS part is the exact same. Investment savings,

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the commodity market, the real economy. But the

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LM part is different. LM stands for liquidity

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preference and money supply. So why do we have

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ISMP now? The text specifically calls ISMP an

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upgraded version. What was wrong with the old

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one? Well, the text says the upgrade better reflects

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the impact of monetary policy and the central

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bank's role in managing the economy. Meaning

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the central banks changed how they operate in

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the real world. Exactly. Under the old ISLM model,

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The assumption was that a central bank controlled

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the economy by strictly managing the actual supply

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of physical money, the quantity of dollars out

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there. But they don't really do that anymore.

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Not primarily, no. Modern central banks shifted

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to targeting specific short term interest rates

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instead. They adjust the rates and they let the

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money supply kind of float to whatever level

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is needed to maintain that rate. So the map had

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to change to reflect the new territory. Right.

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And the academic context the text gives for this

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is really interesting. It cites a foundational

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paper from the year 2000. By David Romer. Yes.

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Titled Keynesian macroeconomics without the LM

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curve. Without the LM curve. So Romer just straight

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up deleted the money market from the model. He

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looked at it and said if central banks aren't

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obsessing over the money supply anymore why should

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our baseline model obsess over it. He deleted

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the LM curve and replaced it with the MP curve

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which focuses purely on the central bank's interest

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rate actions. It centers the Fed. Completely.

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It puts their policy lever right in the spotlight.

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OK, but before we get into the pushback on Roemer's

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big deletion, because there is pushback, we need

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to scale up a bit because the text reminds us

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of a major limitation. The short run limitation.

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Right. ISMP only displays short run fluctuations.

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It's the immediate reaction. But obviously economists

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care about what happens next year or five years

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from now. You can't just look at the short run.

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So the text introduces the bigger picture. It

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says the ISMP model is actually used as a foundation

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for the ADAS model. ADAS, aggregate demand and

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aggregate supply. What's the connection there?

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Think of the ISMP model as the engine that powers

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the ADAS model. Okay. The ISMP model tells us,

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hey, the Fed cut rates today, so output is booming

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right now. The ADAS model takes that immediate

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boom and tracks how it ripples out over time.

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When those sticky prices get unstuck. Exactly,

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when the sugar high wears off. Because if output

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is booming, eventually companies have to hire

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more workers, which drives up wages, which increases

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costs, which forces them to finally raise their

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prices. Meaning inflation. Systemic long -term

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inflation. The text specifically says that when

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ISMP is plugged into the ADA framework, economists

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can drive long -term movements in inflation and

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interest rates. It transitioned from the base

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short -run movements to the long -term reality.

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So they nest inside each other. ISMP handles

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the today, ADAS handles the tomorrow. That's

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a great way to put it. Alright, let's get back

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to David Romer deleting the money supply from

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the model, because not everyone loved this upgraded

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version. It was a very bold move, and in economics

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bold moves invite serious critiques. And the

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text introduces a massive critique from economist

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Greg Mankiw. A huge name in the field. And Mankiw

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has this great quote in the text. He says, the

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ISMP model has quirky features. Which is, in

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academic speak, calling a rival's model quirky

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is basically throwing down the gauntlet. It's

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a very polite insult. Mankiw explicitly prefers

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the old ISLM model. He does. And the text gives

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us his core argument for why. It says, ISLM focuses

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on the important connections between the money

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supply, interest rates, and economic activity.

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And here's the kicker, whereas the ISMP model

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leaves some of that in the background. Leaves

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it in the background. That is the fundamental

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blind spot Mankiw is pointing out. So Romer wanted

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to center the Federal Reserve and interest rates

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because that's what they actually talk about

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in their press conferences. Right. But Mankiw

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is arguing that by doing so, by literally erasing

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the money supply curve, you're hiding a massive

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structural force in the economy. Mankiw is basically

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saying, Just because the Fed isn't staring at

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the money supply doesn't mean the money supply

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stopped mattering. It's still there. It's definitely

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still there. And Mankiw argues that the sheer

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quantity of money circulating is a critical driver

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of inflation and economic health. If your model

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just assumes the money supply will magically

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adjust itself in the background without causing

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any weird side effects, you're going to get caught

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off guard. So who is right? Which is more important

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for understanding the economy, the interest rate

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lever, or the actual pool of money? Well, it's

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a trade off, right? Roemer's model is incredibly

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accurate for normal times. When the economy is

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functioning normally, the Fed tweaks the interest

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rate, and the ISMP model predicts the outcome

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beautifully. But what about abnormal times? That's

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exactly when Mankiw's critique hits hardest.

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So we've taken this massive journey today through

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the ISMP model. We really have. We started with

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the basic short -run fluctuations of interest

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rates, inflation, and output. We mapped out the

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Federal Reserve's MP curve and how they trade

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higher inflation for lower rates. And we looked

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at the IS curve, where consumer and government

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spending can drive output regardless of what

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the Fed is doing. Right. And then we brought

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them together to watch the chain reaction from

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the boardroom to the cash register. And we debated

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the evolution of the model itself, from ISLM

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to ISMP, Roemer versus Manki. There's a lot to

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take in. It is. But what is the real listener

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value here? Like, why keep this model in your

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head? The value is that the next time you hear

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a news report saying the central bank is lowering

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interest rates, you aren't just hearing abstract

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financial jargon anymore. Right, you have the

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blueprint. You possess the exact mental blueprint.

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You can visualize the MP curve shifting right.

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You know exactly how that decision is meant to

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cascade down the IS curve, making borrowing cheaper,

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to artificially boost total output in the short

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run. You can see the matrix. You can see the

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matrix. I love that. But I want to leave everyone

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with a final provocative thought built on Mankey's

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critique. Oh, this is a good one. Because if

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the ISMP model became the modern standard by

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placing the central bank's interest rate policy

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in the spotlight and leaving the actual money

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supply in the background, what happens to our

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understanding of the economy when those traditional

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interest rate tools stop working? Like when interest

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rates hit zero? Exactly. When rates hit zero

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and the central bank resorts to just printing

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trillions of dollars quantitative easing, suddenly

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the money supply is the only thing that matters.

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But our modern model left that in the background.

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Right. Are we relying on a map that is fundamentally

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blind to the very money supply we ignored? It

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really makes you wonder if our models are shaping

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our reality or blinding us to it. A great question

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to end on. Thank you for joining this deep dive

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and keep questioning the models that shape our

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world. We'll see you next time.
