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Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're looking

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at a, well, a particularly fascinating piece

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of source material. Yeah, it's a really wild

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one. It really is. We are looking at the Wikipedia

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article for a single song titled I'm Going to

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Find a Cave. Right. And if you happen to catch

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the Apple podcast title and description for this

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deep dive before hitting play, you already have

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a sense of the terrain we're covering today.

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You'd have to. I mean, the title is a mouthful.

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It is. I'm looking at it right now. The title

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reads, The Deep Dive, the bizarre evolution of

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I'm Gonna Find a Cave from 60's Soul to the Banana

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Splints and Seattle Grunge. That really sets

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the stage. And the description lays out our mission

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for today. It says, join us on this deep dive

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as we trace the unbelievable globe -trotting

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journey of the 1965 song I'm Gonna Find a Cave.

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Written by Jimmy Radcliffe and Buddy Scott, this

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track morphed from a 1966 Soul and Psycho Billy

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number into a British mod classic a uruguayan

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garage rock staple and surprisingly a saturday

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morning cartoon hit for the banana splits he's

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just still just so funny to me right It goes

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on to say, we explore how this one song connects

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the 1960s freak beat scene to the early Seattle

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grunge movement with girl trouble on the legendary

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Sub Pop 200 compilation and even spawned a 2011

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campaign to make it the official man cave anthem.

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That's a huge timeline. Huge. And it finishes

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with, if you love music history, rare covers,

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and the strange ways pop culture evolves, this

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deep dive is your ultimate guide to a hidden

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musical gem. And then it lists the SEO keywords,

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which I'll just read because why not? Yeah, lay

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them on us. SEO keywords. I'm going to find a

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cave. Jimmy Ratcliffe, Bananas Bliss, 1960s music

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history, Garage Rock, Psychobilly, music covers,

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Sub Pop 200, Man Cave Anthem. Gotta love the

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algorithm. Exactly. But seriously, we are tracking

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the mutations of a single piece of music. Written

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in 1965. And it just travels across continents.

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It jumps wildly between genres. It survives.

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Yes. It survives decades of cultural shifts.

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So the core mystery we want you to keep in mind

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today is, you know, the mechanics of that survival.

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Right. Like how does it actually happen? Exactly.

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How does a song move from an English mod track

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to a Uruguayan garage rock single to a staple

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of the Seattle grunge scene and eventually become

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a candidate for a, well, an architectural novelty

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anthem? It's a journey. Okay, let's unpack this

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by starting at the very beginning. The genesis

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of the track happens in 1965. Right. It's credited

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to writers Jimmy Radcliffe and Buddy Scott, but

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the song doesn't actually see the light of day

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until 1966. Which is just a wildly unpredictable

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year for the music industry anyway. Totally.

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So the very first recorded version we have on

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record is by a soul singer named Charlie Starr.

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It comes out as a United Artists Records single,

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specifically single number 500 -029. Okay. The

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production is handled by Gary Ganiham, and the

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arrangement is done by Herb Bernstein. Now, that

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initial recording is the absolute baseline we

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need to establish. Right, before we get into

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all the crazy mutations. Exactly. When we look

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at the architecture of a 1966 soul arrangement

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by someone like Herb Bernstein. Who was working

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within that United Artists ecosystem. Right.

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We are looking at a highly structured, very deliberate

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piece of commercial art. How so? Well, arrangers

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of that era were essentially structural engineers

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for pop music. That's a great way to put it.

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They dictated the exact moment the brass section

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would swell to emphasize a lyric, you know. The

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precise pocket the rhythm section needed to sit

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in. It wasn't just musicians jamming in a room.

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No, not at all. They plotted the specific call

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and response dynamics of the backing vocalists.

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This wasn't a loose studio session. It was a

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calibrated framework. Designed to hit mainstream

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R &B and pop radio. Simultaneously, yeah. So

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the original DNA of I'm Gonna Find a Cave is

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deeply rooted in this emotive, slightly dramatic,

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but highly polished structural professionalism.

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Right. The lyrics deal with it. need to escape,

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to retreat from the world. And in the context

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of a 1966 soul ballad, that translates directly

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into a passionate, heartbroken plea. Okay, but

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I want to push back on that highly polished idea

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slightly. Okay, go for it. Or at least I want

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to examine how quickly that polish wears off.

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Because in the exact same year, 1966, Billy Lee

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Riley gets his hands on the track. Oh, I already

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did. He releases it on Crescendo Records, single

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number 371. And the sources describe his version

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as early psychobilly. Which is a huge pivot.

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It is. Now, obviously, the term psychobilly is

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a retroactive label. Right. Nobody in 1966 was

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walking into a record store asking for the psychobilly

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section. Exactly. That is a crucial distinction.

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The term didn't really crystallize until much

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later. primarily around bands like The Cramps

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in the late 70s and early 80s. But when historians

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look back at what Billy Lee Riley was doing in

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1966 with this specific crescendo release, they

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apply the term. Because he was injecting this

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frantic, unhinged, almost paranoid energy into

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standard rockabilly structures. Right. But here's

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my question. How does an arrangement engineered

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for a smooth soul delivery survive that kind

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of manic acceleration? That's a good question.

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If Bernstein built this song with sweeping horns

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and a tight R &B pocket, doesn't speeding it

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up and playing it with frantic rockabilly instrumentation

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just break the song entirely? You would think

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so. Are we sure Riley wasn't just hijacking the

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lyrics and discarding the original melody? He

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wasn't, and it doesn't break the song. That points

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directly to the underlying brilliance of Radcliffe

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and Scott's songwriting. Okay, how so? A poorly

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constructed song shatters when you change the

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tempo or the instrumentation. A robustly written

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song reveals a new facet of its core identity.

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Like holding up a diamond to the light. Exactly.

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Think about the lyrical premise. Wanting to retreat

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into a cave to escape the world. When Charlie

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Starr sings it with a soul arrangement, the cave

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is a metaphor for a broken heart. He wants to

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hide because he's wounded. Right. But when Billy

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Lee Riley sings those exact same words at a frantic

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tempo with aggressive distorted guitars, the

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context shifts entirely. It's not a broken heart

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anymore. No. The cave is no longer a place to

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nurse a wound. It becomes a bunker. It becomes

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a paranoid demand to get away from a society

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he can no longer tolerate. That's a completely

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different vibe. Completely. Right. But the melody

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is strong enough to carry both the sorrow of

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the soul version and the manic aggression of

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the rockabilly version without losing its structural

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integrity. That dual nature of the lyrics is

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just fascinating. A song acts as a psychological

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mirror for whoever is performing it. That's exactly

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what it is. a lot of people were looking into

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that mirror in 1966. Oh, for sure. Because if

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we look across the Atlantic to the British music

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scene during that same 12 month period, the song's

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malleability gets put to a very rigorous, almost

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scientific test. We're talking about Mickey Dallin

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now. We are. We have a singer, songwriter, and

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record producer named Mickey Dallin. He runs

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an independent label called Strike Records. Right.

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And Dallin doesn't just cover the song. He releases

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his own mod version on Strike Records as Single

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306. But he doesn't stop there. No, he does not.

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Over the course of 1966, Dallin produces versions

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of this exact same song for two other acts. In

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the same year. In the same year. He produces

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it for the British freak beat group, The Sorrows.

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and the London R &B act Jimmy Powell. and the

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dimensions. The sheer volume of altitude from

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one producer on a single track in one year is

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highly unusual. It's obsessive. It is. We really

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have to analyze the producer mindset here. Dallin

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is operating in the epicenter of the 1966 London

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scene. It's just fiercely competitive. And moving

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at breakneck speed. Subcultures are fracturing

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and evolving month by month. You have the mods.

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You have the burgeoning freak beat scene. You

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have the traditional club R &B scene. Everyone

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is fighting for space. Exactly. And Dallin hears,

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I'm going to find a cave. Yeah. And clearly recognizes

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it as the perfect sonic vehicle for the broader

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youth dissatisfaction of the era. But instead

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of betting on just one subculture, May. He uses

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his position as a producer to essentially A -B

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test the track across the entire spectrum of

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London's underground. Let me play devil's advocate

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here for a second, though. Is this actually a

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case of a producer having a grand artistic vision

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about youth dissatisfaction? You're wondering

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if it's just about money. I am. Is this just

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pure cynical economics? I mean, if you own the

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publishing rights or you've secured a favorable

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mechanical license, isn't it just a smart financial

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hedge to force every band on your roster to cut

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the track, hoping one of them hits the charts?

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It's absolutely a financial hedge. Okay. But

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in the 1960s British record industry, the economics

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and the artistic vision were inextricably linked.

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They weren't mutually exclusive. Right. You couldn't

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force a hit just by sheer repetition. if the

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subculture rejected the sound. That makes sense.

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The kids would know if it was fake. Exactly.

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Dallin had to tailor the song specifically to

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the aesthetic demands of each group's audience.

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So how did he do that? Well, his own mod version

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would have emphasized a clean, sharp, rhythmic

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groove, reflecting the stylized, fashion -conscious

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nature of the mod movement. The sharp suits,

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the scooters. Yeah. But when he handed the track

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to the Sorrows, he had to recalibrate completely.

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Because the Sorrows were a Freakbeat band. Right.

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And Freakbeat took the foundations of American

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R &B and aggressively distorted them. It was

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a much harsher sound. It was the sound of British

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musicians pushing their amplifiers to the absolute

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limit of failure. They were experimenting with

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early fuzz pedals, creating a denser, more abrasive

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wall of sound. So the sorrows version of the

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cave metaphor becomes much heavier and more aggressive

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than the mod version. Chris Laisley, it's a completely

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different emotional texture. And what about Jimmy

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Powell? And the dimensions. They were a staple

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of the live London R &B club circuit. So for

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them, Dallin would strip away the freak beat

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distortion and focus on a grittier, sweatier,

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blues vamp approach. More traditional, in a sense.

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Yes. The fact that Dallin successfully mapped

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the identical chords and lyrics of I'm Gonna

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Find a Cave onto these three distinct sonic templates.

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proves the inherent elasticity of the composition.

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It really does. He wasn't just throwing spaghetti

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at the wall. He was demonstrating how a single

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piece of American songwriting could be reverse

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engineered to soundtrack three different factions

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of British youth culture simultaneously. It really

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highlights how much power independent producers

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wielded as tastemakers and cultural conduits

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during that era. They were the gatekeepers. But

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the transmission of this song doesn't stop in

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London. Not even close. Here's where it gets

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really interesting. While Dallin is blanketing

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the British underground with the track, the song

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simultaneously surfaces 6 ,000 miles away. In

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South America. Yes. Still in the year 1966, a

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Uruguayan garage rock quintet called Lost Bulldogs

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records their own version. Which is just staggering

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to think about. It gets released as an RCA Victor

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single and later appears on their second full

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-length LP. This is where we have to look closely

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at the physical mechanics of global music distribution.

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in the mid -1960s. Because they couldn't just

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download it. Exactly. Yeah. The idea that a relatively

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obscure track currently being volleyed between

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American soul studios and British free beat clubs

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lands in Montevideo, Uruguay in the exact same

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calendar year. It's crazy when you consider the

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technological limitations of the era. It really

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is. They aren't monitoring a global digital chart.

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Right. They are relying on physical media. How

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does a Uruguayan quintet even acquire the record

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in time to learn it, record it, and press their

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own version before the year is out? It was an

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entirely physical supply chain, driven by the

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merchant marine, international radio DJs, and

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global distribution deals. The actual movement

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of objects. Exactly. Port cities like Montevideo

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were crucial nodes in this network. Sailors and

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travelers would buy 45s in London or New York

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and sell or trade them at independent record

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shops near the docks in South America. So a literal

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sailor just handed the song off? Potentially.

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Oh? Or, simultaneously, major labels like RCA

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Victor had aggressive international licensing

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divisions. A stack of promotional 45s could be

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loaded onto a cargo flight from London, arrive

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at a radio station in Uruguay, and be broadcast

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the next day. That's incredible. Los Bulldogs

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likely heard either the original American release

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or one of Dallin's British productions. immediately

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identified the structural similarities to their

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own garage rock sensibilities and cut it. Okay,

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but one detail from the sources that stands out

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to me is that Lost Bulldogs chose to sing I'm

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Gonna Find a Cave in English. Yeah, that's a

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very specific choice. If the goal was to capitalize

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on a great melody and bring it to their local

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Uruguayan audience, wouldn't it make more sense

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to translate the lyrics into Spanish? So the

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local teenagers could actually understand the

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angst of the cave metaphor. Exactly. Why keep

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it in a foreign language? Because in the context

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of the 1960s global garage rock, movement, English

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wasn't primarily functioning as a language of

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communication. What was it functioning as? It

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was an instrument. It was a sonic aesthetic.

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Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Translating the

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lyrics into Spanish might have conveyed the literal

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meaning, but it would have fundamentally altered

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the rhythmic cadence of the vocal line. It wouldn't

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sound like British or American rock anymore.

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Right. And more importantly, it would have stripped

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the song of its imported, rebellious cachet.

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the coolness factor exactly for a garage rock

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band in montevideo singing in the original english

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signal to their audience that they were fully

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plugged into the vanguard of the global rock

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and roll youth movement the specific meaning

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of the words mattered less than the attitude

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and the phrasing precisely It was all about the

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vibe. But that edgy, authentic rock and roll

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attitude gets severely undercut by the other

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side of their single. Oh, the B -side. Yes, the

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B -side. Lost Bulldogs paired their English -language,

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angst -ridden cover of I'm Gonna Find a Cave

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with a cover of Winchester Cathedral. It is such

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a funny juxtaposition. It really is. But that

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juxtaposition is deeply revealing about the realities

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of working as a rock band in the 1960s outside

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of the major Anglo -American markets. Because

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Winchester Cathedral was huge, right? It was

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a massive Grammy -winning global hit in 1966

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for the new vaudeville band. But it is unapologetically

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a novelty song. Right. It's a pastiche of 1920s

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dancehall music, featuring Rudy Vallee -style

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vocals sung through a megaphone effect. So you

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have this raw, driving garage rock track about

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societal alienation on one side and a whimsically

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nostalgic, toe -tapping vaudeville novelty tune

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on the other. It feels like musical whiplash.

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It totally does. It is, but it's a calculated

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survival tactic. For a band like Lost Bulldogs,

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operating in a smaller market, you couldn't always

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afford to be a purist. You had to pay the bills.

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Exactly. The A -side and the B -side of a single

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often served entirely different economic functions.

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The Winchester Cathedral cover was likely the

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commercial bait. The safe bet. Yeah. It was a

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proven, highly recognizable melody that radio

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programmers would gladly play and older generations

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might purchase. But the inclusion of I'm Gonna

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Find a Cave... was the band carving out their

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actual artistic identity. They were smuggling

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a genuine garage rock ethos onto the same piece

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of vinyl that housed a mainstream novelty hit.

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That's brilliant, actually. It perfectly encapsulates

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the dual existence of international rock bands

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at the time, satisfying the commercial demands

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of the local industry while desperately trying

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to participate in the global underground. That

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concept of smuggling a raw song into a mainstream

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commercial vehicle is the perfect bridge to our

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next timeline jump. Oh yeah, here we go. We are

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moving from the frenetic energy of 1966 into

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1968. This is the moment the song achieves actual

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mainstream household recognition. And not the

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way anyone would have expected. Not at all. It

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doesn't happen via a prominent soul singer or

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a breakout British rock band. It happens through

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the vehicle of a Saturday morning children's

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television show. The Banana Splits. In 1968,

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the Banana Splits recorded I'm Gonna Find a Cave

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for their album. We're the Banana Splits on Decca

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Records. Let's give the catalog number for the

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record nerds. Of course. The specific catalog

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number is DECA DL 75075. The lead vocals are

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handled by Ricky Lancelotti. And this track becomes

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heavily featured on the Banana Splits Adventure

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Hour, beaming it into millions of living rooms.

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This is the era of what we might call cultural

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laundering. Cultural laundering. I like that

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term. It really applies here. How do you take

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a song that was previously the domain of manic

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psychobilly rockers, heavy British freak beat

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groups, and Uruguayan garage bands, and make

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it palatable for children eating cereal on a

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Saturday morning? You put a guy in a giant dog

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suit. Well, yes, but musically, you strip away

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the cultural signifiers of rebellion and wrap

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it in the aesthetics of bubblegum pop. I think

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we need to look closely at the relationship between

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garage rock and bubblegum pop here. They are

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more closely related than people think. On the

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surface, they seem like diametric opposites.

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One is raw, distorted, and rebellious. The other

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is manufactured, polished, and intensely commercial.

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But musically, don't they share almost exactly

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the same DNA? They absolutely do. And that was

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the brilliant insight of the Hanna -Barbera Studio

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executives and the Decca Records producers. Both

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Garage Rock and Bubble Gum Pop rely on economy.

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They use standard three -chord progressions.

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Relentless, striving 4 -4 rhythms, and most importantly,

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massive, undeniable vocal hooks. The producers

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behind the Banana Splits recognized that the

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underlying structure of a song like I'm Gonna

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Find a Cave was intrinsically catchy. The melody

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of the chorus, the rhythmic punch of the verses,

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it was already perfect. All they had to do was

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change the presentation. So they just cleaned

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it up. They removed the heavy fuzz pedals that

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the Sorrows used. They dialed back the manic

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aggression of Billy Lee Riley. And they brought

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the vocals forward in the mix with a bright,

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clean production style. And suddenly the lyrics

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mean something else entirely again. Right. When

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a guy in a giant cartoon dog suit sings about

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needing to hide in a cave, the metaphor shifts

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yet again. It's no longer about heartbreak or

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societal alienation. It's just a fun, slightly

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goofy concept that kids can easily grasp. Exactly.

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The song was culturally laundered, but its structural

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integrity remained completely intact. And what's

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incredible is that this wasn't an isolated incident

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regarding the song's original writers. Jimmy

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Radcliffe had quite the footprint there. He really

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did. The sources note that four other Jimmy Radcliffe

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songs were featured on the Banana Splits Adventure

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Hour. Four other songs. Show Must Go On, Don't

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Go Away, Go Go Girl, and Soul. This represents

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a massive hidden influence on an entire generation

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of consumers. Jimmy Ratcliffe essentially became

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the secret architect of late 60s childhood nostalgia.

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A songwriter whose work originated in the sophisticated

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R &B and soul markets of the mid -60s is suddenly

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writing the soundtrack for Saturday morning cartoons.

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Millions of children were sitting in front of

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their televisions absorbing complex brilliantly

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crafted pop soul melodies without ever knowing

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his name. He was providing the soundtrack to

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their formative years by proxy. He was. And that

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proxy influence echoes forward in really surprising

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ways. The sources mentioned that the track Don't

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Go Away Go Go Girl, one of those other Radcliffe

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songs from the cartoon, was later recorded by

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the indie pop punk band The Mr. T Experience.

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That's a great band. It proves that the melodies

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Radcliffe crafted were so durable they could

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survive the transition from 60s soul into 60s

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cartoons and emerge decades later as fodder for

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90s punk rockers. us directly into our next major

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shift yes let's look at the late 1980s the kids

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who were watching the banana splits in 1968 are

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now young adults exactly and in 1988 a punk band

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from tacoma washington named girl treble releases

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their version of the song slightly retitled as

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gonna find a cave Right. And this track is included

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on the highly influential Sub Pop 200 compilation,

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which is a three LP boxed set carrying the catalog

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number SP25. The inclusion of this track on Sub

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Pop 200 is a massive historical pivot point.

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It really is. This compilation is widely regarded

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as one of the foundational documents of the early

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Seattle grunge movement. You have bands on this

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roster that would go on to reshape global music

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in the 1990s. Nirvana is on there. Soundgarden

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is on there. Exactly. So we have to ask, why

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would a gritty Tacoma punk band operating in

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a scene defined by heavy, sludgy, confrontational

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rock choose to cover a song that a large portion

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of their audience would primarily associate with

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a guy in a cartoon animal suit? Because underneath

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the cartoon presentation, they could hear the

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original garage rock bones. They heard what Miki

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Dallin heard in 1966. Yes. The Pacific Northwest

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has a long, deep lineage of respecting raw 1960s

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garage rock. Bands like the Sonics set a blueprint

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in that region long before punk or grunge existed.

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The early grunge and punk scenes in the Pacific

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Northwest weren't exclusively looking to 1970s

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heavy metal or 1980s hardcore for inspiration.

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They were looking backward. They were deeply

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indebted to the freak beat and garage sounds

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of the mid -60s. They were rejecting the overproduced,

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highly synthetic pop music of the 1980s, and

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they found kindred spirits in the raw, unpolished

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recordings of the 60s underground. covered Gonna

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Find a Case, they weren't performing a novelty

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cover of a cartoon theme. No, they were engaging

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in an act of musical reclamation. They stripped

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away the bright, clean Decca Records production

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that Hanna -Marbera had layered over the track

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in 1968. And they brought back the heavy distortion,

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the aggressive tempo, and the raw vocal delivery

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that characterized the earlier Miki Dallin freakbeat

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productions. It's a fascinating cycle of cultural

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recycling. It really is. The original 1965 soul

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lyric, becomes a template for 1966 garage rock,

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gets sanitized for 1968 morning television, and

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then gets violently unsanitized to serve as a

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1988 punk manifesto. The song is continually

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drafted to serve the emotional needs of whatever

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youth culture discovers it. But the story continues

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past the 20th century. We have to bring it into

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the modern era. The final facts we have from

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the sources bring us into the 2000s, where the

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song undergoes a completely different type of

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linguistic and cultural recontextualization.

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This part is so wild. In February 2011, Jimmy

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Radcliffe's son launched a campaign to make I'm

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Gonna Find a Cave, the international man cave

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anthem. This development is arguably the most

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radical shift the song has ever experienced.

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Because it doesn't just change the musical genre.

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No, it completely alters the fundamental meaning.

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of the core lyric. Throughout all the previous

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iterations, whether it was soul, psychobilly,

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freak beat, or grunge, the word cave in the song

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functioned as a psychological metaphor. It represented

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a desperate need to withdraw from pain or society

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or alienation. It was an expression of angst.

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But by 2011, the cultural definition of a cave

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in a domestic setting had shifted entirely. Completely

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entirely. The phrase man cave had become a ubiquitous

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term for a specific type of suburban consumerism.

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It no longer meant a psychological retreat from

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a harsh world. It meant a physical basement room

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outfitted with a flat screen television, a recliner,

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and sports memorabilia. It became a sanctuary

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of leisure. And Jimmy Ratcliffe's son. recognized

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this linguistic shift and playfully hijacked

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it. He took a 50 -year -old song about emotional

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isolation and pitched it as the perfect soundtrack

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for a modern interior design trend. It is an

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incredibly savvy piece of retroactive marketing.

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It really is, utilizing the literal title of

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the song to bridge a massive gap in cultural

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context. I'm going to find a cave. To put my

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pool table in. Exactly. It completely neuters

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the original angst of the track, but in a way

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that guarantees the song's continued survival

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in the digital age. And that instinct for survival

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brings us to the final specific event in our

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timeline. Which brings us back to the emotional

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core of the song in a weird way. In October 2017,

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a group of retro rockers known as Spider 45 released

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a tribute version of the song. What makes this

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release stand out is the dedication. They specifically

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dedicated their version to the recently deceased

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bingo of the banana splits. That 2017 tribute

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is where the complex, tangled web of this song's

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history collapses into a single, deeply poignant

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moment. Let's examine the layers here. You have

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a modern garage band, Spider 45, dedicating themselves

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to preserving the specific sonic aesthetics of

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the 1960s. They are recording a song written

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by a Brill Building era soul writer. But the

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emotional weight of their tribute isn't directed

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at Jimmy Radcliffe. Or Miki Dallin or Girl Trouble.

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It's directed at the actor who wore a fictional

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cartoon gorilla suit in 1968. They are mourning

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the character who acted as the vessel, bringing

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the song into their childhood living rooms. Precisely.

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It demonstrates how the origin of a piece of

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art often matters less than the point of entry

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for the audience. For Spider 45, the definitive

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version of I'm Gonna Find a Cave wasn't the United

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Artists' soul release or the sub -pop punk cover.

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It was the Decker Records' bubblegum pop version

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they absorbed as children. By recording a raw,

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retro -rock tribute to a bubblegum cartoon character

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lip -syncing a soul song, they are acknowledging

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the bizarre, interconnected nature of pop culture.

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It honors the entire messy, contradictory journey

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the song took over five decades. So when we look

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at the complete lifespan of I'm Gonna Find a

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Cave, we see a single set of lyrics and chords

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that served as a blank canvas for over 50 years.

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It's an incredible timeline. We started with

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the polished structural engineering of a 1965

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soul arrangement. We moved through the frantic

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acceleration of early psychobilly. We watched

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Mickey Dallin aggressively A -B tested across

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the London Mod and Freak Beat scenes. We track

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its physical shipment to a Uruguayan seaport,

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where it was sung in English. alongside a vaudeville

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novelty track. We saw it culturally laundered

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for Saturday morning cartoons in 1968, only to

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be violently reclaimed by Tacoma punks in 1988.

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And finally, we watched its core metaphor pivot

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from psychological angst to suburban leisure

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in 2011, before coming full circle as a heartfelt

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tribute to a cartoon gorilla in 2017. The overarching

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narrative here is that music history is rarely

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linear. It's not a neat progression from the

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writer to the definitive performer to the history

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books. True music history relies on an underground,

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chaotic network of eccentric producers, physical

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distribution anomalies, and the constant friction

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between commercial demands and artistic expression.

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A song survives the decades not simply because

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it is technically proficient, but because its

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fundamental structure is adaptable enough to

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withstand constant radical reinterpretation.

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I'm going to find a cave. proves that a truly

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robust melody doesn't belong to any single genre,

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era, or subculture. It belongs to whoever has

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the audacity to reshape it for their own needs.

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I think the concept of cultural laundering we

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discussed earlier is the key takeaway here. Stripping

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the song of its original context and putting

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it in a cartoon is precisely what allowed it

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to survive long enough to be rediscovered by

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those Seattle punks. It's a brilliant paradox.

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We want to leave you, the listener, with a final

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thought to mull over. Think about the theme song

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to your own favorite childhood television show,

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the music you passively absorbed while eating

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breakfast before school. What if the upbeat,

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seemingly innocent track you remember is actually

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a recycled, heavily sanitized version of an underground

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garage punk anthem from a completely different

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era? What other raw, aggressive pieces of musical

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history have been culturally laundered and hidden

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in plain sight, just waiting for someone to dig

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them up and reclaim them? Thank you for joining

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us on this deep dive. Keep your ears open. Keep

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questioning the media you consume and keep exploring

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the hidden stories buried in the soundtracks

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of your life.
