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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we're opening

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up a file that is quite honestly a bit of a paradox.

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Yeah, it really is a ghost story in a way. Right.

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We are looking at a work of art that is widely

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considered a masterpiece, perhaps the absolute

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masterpiece of its genre. And yet, if you were

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to look at the physical manuscript, it doesn't

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really exist. Not in full, anyway. Exactly. We

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are talking about... Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's

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Great Mass in C minor, catalog number K, 427.

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And for you listening, this isn't just another

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piece by Mozart. If you look at the canon of

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Western music, this sits right at the top of

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the mountain. Oh, absolutely. You'll see it listed

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right next to his Requiem or the Jupiter Symphony.

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But unlike those, this one is a fragment. It's

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essentially a torso. It is. It's the musical

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equivalent of a magnificent cathedral where the

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architect built the nave and the altar, made

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them more beautiful than anything else in the

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country, and then, well, he just walked off the

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job site before putting on the roof. That is

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exactly the mystery we are trying to solve today.

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Why would a composer at the absolute peak of

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his powers, young, ambitious, arguably the most

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talented musician in Europe, pour his heart into

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this massive, deeply personal project, and then

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just leave it unfinished? To answer that, we

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have to look at the sources we've pulled for

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this dive. We are dealing with historical letters,

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modern musicological analysis by scholars like

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Ulrich Conrad and, of course, the musical scores

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themselves. The picture they paint is pretty

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complicated. Very. It involves a secret engagement,

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a heavily disapproving father, a sudden intense

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obsession with Johann Sebastian Bach, and the

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frantic attempts by modern editors to fix what

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Mozart left behind. Let's start with the sound

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itself. Before we get into the biography, we

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really need to set the stage for you. When we

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say Great Mass or Missus Alumnus, we aren't talking

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about a quiet Sunday service with a single organist

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playing softly in the background. Not at all.

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No, this is big speaker music. In the 18th century,

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a Missus Alumnus was the blockbuster movie of

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church music. The absolute biggest scale possible.

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Right. It is scored for a massive apparatus.

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We're talking two soprano soloists, a tenor,

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a bass, a large orchestra. And this is crucial.

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A double chorus. Which means the choir is split

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into two distinct groups. Yes. So they're essentially

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singing against each other. Exactly. It creates

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this immense stereo effect, this massive wall

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of sound. It is grand. It is complex. And it

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is incredibly demanding for the performers. This

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wasn't something you just threw together for

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a standard paycheck. So we have this massive

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sonic ambition, which brings us to the context

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of it all. Why was he writing this? The source

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is Protestant Vienna. Around 1782 and 1783. Right.

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Mozart is about 26 or 27 years old. And his life

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is kind of a mess at this point. I think this

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is a very fair description. He has just made

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a radical break from his past. He quit his job

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working for the Archbishop in Salzburg, literally

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getting kicked out the door, by the way, and

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moved to Vienna to be a freelance artist. Which

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was incredibly risky back then. Huge risk. But

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the bigger drama is actually in his personal

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life. He has fallen in love. With Constanze Weber.

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Right. And this is where the Great Mass gets

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its romantic legend. The popular story, which

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you will see in almost every concert program

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note, is that this music was a vow. A vow to

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God or a promise to Constance. Well, a bit of

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both. The source of this legend is a specific

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letter Mozart wrote to his father, Leopold, on

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January 4th, 1783. You have to remember, Leopold

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Mozart absolutely hated the idea of Wolfgang

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getting married. He thought constancies were

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just a distraction. A distraction, yes. He thought

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her family were parasites who were going to ruin

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Wolfgang's career. So Wolfgang is basically trying

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to smooth things over. He is walking on eggshells

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with his dad. He is. He writes this letter saying,

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essentially, I made a promise in my heart to

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write a mass if I could successfully bring her

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to Salzburg as my wife. It's a very romantic

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image. The young genius. besotted with his new

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bride, writing this monumental music as a thank

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you note to the universe for their marriage or

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perhaps as a plea for her health because she

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had been quite sick. That is the implication

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people draw from it. But we do have to be a bit

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careful with Mozart's letters. Why is that? Because

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Mozart was a master manipulator, especially when

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he was writing to his dad. The musicologist Ulrich

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Conrad, who we have heavily featured in our notes

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today, throws a bit of a bucket of cold water

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on this whole romantic vow theory. What does

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he say? He points out that this letter is the

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only piece of evidence we have that connects

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the mass to the marriage. So there's no diary

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entry from Constanze saying, Wolfie is writing

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this huge piece for me. No other letters to friends

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confirming it. Nothing at all. And Conrad argues

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the text of the letter is actually quite vague.

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Mozart mentions a vow, yes, but he doesn't explicitly

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say, I am writing the C minor mass because Constanze

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recovered from illness. Or because we got married.

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Right. He might have just been trying to impress

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his deeply devout Catholic father. Sort of a,

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look, dad, I'm still a good religious boy. I'm

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writing a mass. Please accept my new wife. Precisely.

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It is a peace offering, a strategic political

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move within the family. But whether the vow was

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genuinely spiritual or just strategic, the music

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itself is very real. And in the summer of 1783,

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he packs up the manuscript, packs up his new

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wife, and they make the terrifying trip back

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to Salzburg to meet the in -laws. I can only

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imagine that dinner table. You get Leopold, the

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sister Neryl, and the new wife they've been fiercely

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gossiping about all in the exact same room. The

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tension must have been thick enough to cut with

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a knife. It was incredibly tense from all accounts.

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Considence had never met them before this trip.

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She fully knew they disapproved of her. And in

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a way, the mask became a vehicle to prove her

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worth to the family. Because she wasn't just

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sitting in the audience for the premiere, was

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she? She wasn't just a passive observer. No,

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not at all. The premiere took place on Sunday,

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October 26, 1783, at St. Peter's Abbey in Salzburg.

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And Mozart put Constanza front and center. He

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wrote the soprano solos specifically for her

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voice. And the performers backing her up were

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the Hoff music, right? The musicians of the Prince

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Archbishop Count Hieronymus von Colorado. Yes,

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his former colleagues, the very people he had

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just spectacularly quit working for. So the stakes

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are incredibly high. This is the part I find

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absolutely fascinating. We have the sheet music,

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so we can essentially reverse engineer what her

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voice sounded like. What does the Great Mass

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tell us about Constance A. Mozart as a singer?

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It tells us she was formidable. These are not

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simple, gentle hymns. If you listen to the Christe,

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the Laudamus Ti sections, they are incredibly

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athletic. They require a huge vocal range and

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very precise coloratura. Those rapid fire runs

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of notes. Exactly. She had to be a true virtuoso.

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She really did. But the ultimate showcase is

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the movement called the Et Incarnatus Est. This

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is the moment in the credo that describes the

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incarnation of Christ. This track stands out

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completely from the rest of the work. If you

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listen to the rest of the mass, it is heavy,

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it's choral, it's almost oppressive in its grandeur.

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And then suddenly... The clouds break and you

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get this gorgeous pastoral scene. It is magical.

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And it has a very unusual orchestration. It is

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just the soprano voice, a flute, an oboe, and

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a bassoon playing against a very light string

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background. It sounds more like a wind concerto

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than a standard church piece. That is a great

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observation. It really is a concerto. Mozart

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treats her voice as an equal partner to the woodwinds.

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There is a section near the end, a written out

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cadenza, where the singer, the flute, the oboe,

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and the bassoon are all... all weaving around

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each other in this intricate, complicated dance.

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And remember the context for you listening. She

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is singing this in Salzburg. Her father -in -law,

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who thinks she is not nearly good enough for

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his son, is sitting right there. Her sister -in

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-law is sitting there. And Wolfgang has written

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a piece that essentially says, listen to what

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my wife can do. It is the ultimate mic drop moment.

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It is intimate. It is incredibly exposed. And

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if you mess it up, there's absolutely nowhere

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to hide. It was a high wire act for Constanze.

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So we have the premiere, we have the family drama,

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we have the vocal showcase. But this brings us

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back to the giant elephant in the room. You mentioned

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earlier the architect walking off the job site.

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What exactly is missing from this mass? When

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we say unfinished, we mean massive structural

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chunks of the standard liturgical text are just

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gone. Walk us through the structure. For anyone

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who isn't familiar with the Latin mass, what

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are the pieces actually supposed to be? Okay,

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so a standard Mass has five main parts. You have

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the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus,

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and the Agnes Dei. And what do we actually have

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in the C Minor Mass manuscript? We have the Kyrie

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and the Gloria completely finished, and they

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are massive. They span about 25 to 30 minutes

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just by themselves. Then we get to the Credo.

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He writes the first movement, the Credo in Unum

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Deum, and the... Et incarnatus est for Constanze.

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And then he just stopped. He just stops, like

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put the pen down and walked away. Literally midstream.

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The manuscript just trails off. The sections

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about the crucifixion, the resurrection, the

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life of the world to come, they simply do not

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exist. And the final movement, the Agnus Dei.

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Not a single note. The Sanctus and Benedictus

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are also partially lost, right? Yes. They require

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editorial reconstruction just to be performed

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today because parts of the orchestration are

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missing from the surviving pages. So wait. They

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performed this in October 1783 at St. Peter's.

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How do you perform a church service that stops

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halfway through the core belief system of the

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religion? Did everyone just awkwardly shuffle

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out of the church? We have had to piece that

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exact question together. The general consensus

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among historians is that at the premiere, they

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likely just performed the parts that were fully

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ready. So just the Kyrie and Gloria? Mostly,

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yes. And they maybe filled in the dapps with

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simple plainchant or maybe just skipped them

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entirely. The Sanctus and Benedictus were there,

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but likely in a sketchy form that needed to be

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fleshed out on the fly by the performers. That

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is wild to think about. It really suggests that

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getting the work out there, performing it in

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Salzburg to make a point, was much more important

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than it being perfect. Or that he simply ran

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out of time. He only arrived in Salzburg in late

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July and the performance was in late October.

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He might have planned to finish it while he was

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there and just got distracted by seeing old friends,

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dealing with bad memories. and going on hiking

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trips. But he never went back to it. That's the

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real kicker. He lived for another eight years

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after this. He wrote The Marriage of Figaro,

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Don Giovanni, The Jupiter Symphony. Why leave

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this specific masterpiece broken? This is where

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we have to look closely at the style of the music,

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because there is a strong argument that this

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piece was actually quite difficult for him. Not

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technically difficult, but intellectually difficult.

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In what way? How is it different from his other

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stuff? If you listen to this mass, it doesn't

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sound like the Mozart of I Incline Enough music.

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It sounds much darker, heavier, and more archaic.

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It embodies the pomp of the old Salzburg traditions,

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but it also anticipates the big symphonic masses

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of Joseph Haydn. I notice our source notes specifically

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mention a heavy Baroque influence, and specifically

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Johann Sebastian Bach. And George Friedrich Handel.

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Yes. And this is a crucial piece of the puzzle.

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Just before writing this mass in Vienna, Mozart

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had started hanging out with a man named Baron

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Gottfried von Sweden. He was a diplomat, right?

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A diplomat and a very serious music nerd. Then

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Sweden had a massive personal library full of

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music by Bach and Handel. You have to understand,

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in 1782, Bach was considered old -fashioned.

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He was ancient history. The public wanted light.

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elegant catchy melodies not heavy complex counterpoint

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you would be like a major pop star today suddenly

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deciding to write an album exclusively in gregorian

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chant a little bit yes But Mozart sees these

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Bach scores in the library and it completely

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blows his mind. He becomes obsessed. He starts

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writing fugues. He starts studying intensely

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how Bach weaves independent voices together.

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And the great mass is the direct unfiltered result

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of that study. So that double chorus we mentioned

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earlier, that massive wall of sound, that is

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him channeling Bach. Exactly. It is Mozart actively

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trying to fuse his own modern operatic style,

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like those solos for Constanze, with the ancient

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rigorous. power of Bach, which you hear clearly

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in the choruses. That is a really heavy lift,

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trying to seamlessly combine two totally different

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musical languages into one piece. It is. And

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some scholars think that maybe he wrote himself

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into a corner creatively. The sheer weight of

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the piece, the intense complexity of it, maybe

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he just lost the spark. Or, more pragmatically,

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once he left Salzburg and went back to Vienna,

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there was simply no market for it. Right. Because

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in Vienna, the Emperor Joseph II had actively

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restricted church music. He didn't want big orchestras

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in church. He wanted everything simple and austere.

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So Mozart, being a working freelancer who needed

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to pay rent, probably looked at this massive

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pile of incomplete sheet music and thought, well,

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no one in Vienna is going to pay me to finish

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this. I need to write a piano concerto I can

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actually sell tickets for. He was a pragmatist

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at the end of the day. Ruthlessly so. In fact,

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he didn't even let the music he'd already written

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go to waste. A few years later, he took the music

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from the Kyrie and Gloria and recycled it into

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a cantata called Davide Penitente. Reduce, reuse,

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recycle. Exactly. He kept the music almost exactly

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the same. he just changed the Latin mass text

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to Italian poetry and added two new arias. So

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the music itself survived and got performed,

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but the mass as a complete entity remained a

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fragment. Which brings us to today. Because if

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you go on your streaming app right now and search

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for Mozart mass in C minor, you will find dozens

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of recordings. And they sound completely finished.

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You don't hear the track stop abruptly in the

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middle of a phrase. Who is doing the finishing?

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Welcome to the editorial puzzle. This is a huge,

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highly debated topic in modern musicology. Since

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the work is unfinished, if you want to perform

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it in a concert hall today, you have to decide

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exactly how you're going to patch the holes.

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It seems from the sources like there are two

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main philosophies here. Right. Philosophy number

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one, the purists. These are editors like H .C.

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Robbins Landon, Helmut Dater, and Franz Bayer.

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Their entire goal is to do the absolute minimum

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necessary. So they just make the existing notes

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playable. Completion via orchestration, basically.

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Correct. They take the sketches Mozart left,

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fill in a missing viola part, or clean up a trumpet

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line, because Mozart often wrote in shorthand,

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but they absolutely do not compose new music.

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If Mozart didn't write in Agnes Day, you don't

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get an Agnes Day. So the piece still feels fundamentally

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incomplete when you listen to those versions.

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It feels historically honest. You hear exactly

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what he wrote and nothing else. But for a liturgical

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church service or even a musically satisfying

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concert, it can feel a bit abrupt. It just stops.

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And the second philosophy. Philosophy number

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two. The completists. These are editors like

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Jorg Alois Schmidt, Philip Wilby and Robert Levin.

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Their argument is Mozart clearly intended a full

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mass. So let's give the audience a full mass.

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But how do you write a fake Mozart movement without

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it sounding terrible? I mean, you can't just

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noodle around on the piano and hope it sounds

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like one of history's greatest geniuses wrote

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it. You use the parody technique we talked about

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earlier. Just like Mozart recycled his own music

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for that Davide Penitente Cantata, these editors

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take movements from Mozart's other masses or

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sketches he never ended up using, and they adapt

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them to fit the missing text. So they build a

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Frankenstein monster, but they use only genuine

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Mozart body parts. That is a great way to put

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it. It's a very sophisticated, highly educated

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collage. Robert Levin, for example, composed

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a new credo section, but he based it strictly

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on Mozart's existing themes and style. The idea

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is to create something that theoretically could

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have been what Mozart wrote. It is deeply controversial,

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though. Oh, highly. Some purists think it is

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incredibly presumptuous. They say, how dare you

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try to finish a genius's work. Others think it

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is totally necessary to bring the work to life

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for modern audiences. You also have composers

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like Robert Xavier Rodriguez, who just went ahead

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and composed a totally new Agnes Di to finish

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it off. It really makes choosing a recording

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difficult. It does. If you listen to the famous

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Leonard Bernstein recording, or the John Eliot

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Gardner one, or Neville Mariner, you aren't just

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hearing Mozart. You are hearing a specific editor's

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interpretation of the manuscript. It is a total

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rabbit hole. You even have versions like the

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one by Benjamin Gunnar Kors, where he just gives

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you a standalone credo in Agnes Day and says,

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here, mix and match this with whatever other

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edition you want to use. It truly is a choose

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-your -own -adventure mass at this point. So

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looking at the big picture here, we have this

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piece of music that is torn between two worlds.

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It is torn between Salzburg and Vienna, between

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the old Bach counterpoint style and the new melodic

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gallant style. between a love letter to his wife

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and a peace treaty with his father. And fundamentally

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between existence and non -existence. Exactly.

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Why do you think we obsess over this specific

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one so much? Mozart wrote plenty of totally finished

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masses. Why is the broken one the most famous?

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I think the fragment quality actually helps it

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endure. It is the exact same reason we stare

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at the Venus de Milo or ancient Greek ruins.

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The missing parts actively invite our imagination

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to participate. we fill in the blanks with our

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own idea of perfection we do But also looking

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at the music itself, this was Mozart leveling

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up. You can visibly hear the struggle in the

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music. You can hear him wrestling with Bach's

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influence, trying to expand what a mass could

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even be. It has a gravity and a darkness that

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his earlier pretty Salzburg masses just do not

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have. It is the sound of an artist becoming an

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independent master. Yes. And there is a real

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provocation here for the listener. If Mozart

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had finished it, if we had a perfectly polished

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standard Agnes Day. tied up with a neat bow,

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would we analyze it as closely? That is a great

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point. Or does the silence where the credo cuts

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off force us to really listen to the notes that

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are there? I want to build on that for a second

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because there is something we haven't touched

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on yet. If he had finished it, he would have

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had to make it fit into a standard church service.

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He might have had to dilute that intense radical

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Bach counterpoint just to please the archbishop

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or the emperor. That is a very real possibility.

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So by leaving it unfinished, by literally walking

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away, he actually preserved its radical nature.

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It never got smoothed out into a polite, conventional

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piece of church music. It remains this wild,

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boundary -pushing experiment forever. I absolutely

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love that interpretation. The silence isn't just

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a failure to finish. It's a boundary that protects

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the genius of what he did right. Exactly. The

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silence is part of the music. Well, for those

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of you listening, I have a homework assignment

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for you. Tonight, find a recording of this mass,

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it doesn't matter which editor's version, and

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skip straight to the et incarnatus est. Good

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choice. Close your eyes and just imagine that

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cavernous stone abbey in Salzburg in 1783. Imagine

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Constance standing there, terrified but completely

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ready, singing those complex lines to a family

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that didn't want her there. And listen to that

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flute, oboe, and bassoon weaving around her.

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It really brings the history right into the room

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with you. It does. Thank you so much for helping

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us unpack this unfinished giant today. It has

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been a real journey through the archives. It

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was a pleasure. And to our listeners, keep diving

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deep. We'll see you on the next one.
