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OK, so picture the scene. It's February 1860.

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The United States is effectively sitting on a

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powder keg. We're just months away from the election

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of Abraham Lincoln. And the country is, well,

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it's tearing itself apart at the seams. You can

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really feel the tension. Oh, absolutely. It is

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arguably the most volatile moment in American

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history. Everything is uncertain. Right. And

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right in the middle of this chaos on the edge

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of the frontier in Quincy, Illinois. a group

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of German Franciscan friars arrives. Now, looking

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at the timeline, you'd expect maybe they're building

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a fort or maybe just keeping their heads down

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and trying to stay out of the way. But no. No,

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exactly. They decide to plant a flag and build

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a school. And not just a school, really. They

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were building a cultural anchor. That is a really

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important distinction to make right up front.

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It is. So welcome to the Deep Dive. Today we

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are looking at the source material on Quincy

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University. And the mission here isn't just to

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talk about a small college in Illinois. We want

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to figure out how an institution started by 19th

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century friars survives the Civil War, two world

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wars, and the Great Depression. Not to mention

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the modern higher education landscape. Right.

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To end up offering something called sprint football

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and producing an alumni list that includes both

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a candidate for sainthood and a notorious serial

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killer. It's a completely wild trajectory. And

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when you look at the Wikipedia overview we're

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using as our source today, the history, the financial

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reports, the architecture, you realize this is

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a fascinating case study and adaptation. It really

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is. It's about how you hold onto an ancient identity,

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that Franciscan intellectual tradition, while

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desperately trying to survive in the modern cutthroat

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business of higher education. So let's go back

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to that freezing February in 1860. They didn't

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call it Quincy University then. No, it was originally

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St. Francis Solanus College. A bit of a mouthful,

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but it tells you exactly who they were. St. Francis

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Solanus was a Franciscan missionary, and that

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fits perfectly because these friars were missionaries

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themselves. Right. They had left Germany specifically

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to serve the massive wave of German immigrants

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flooding into the Midwest. That's a key piece

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of context I think people miss. Quincy, Illinois

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was a boom town at the time, but it was a German

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boom town. Exactly. If you walk down the street

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in Quincy in 1860, you were just as likely to

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hear German spoken as English. So this college

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wasn't just about hiring in the abstract, it

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was about preserving faith and culture for a

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very specific demographic. And they started at

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8th and Main Street, but the real transformation

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happens a few years later under Father Anselm

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Mueller. Mueller's a fascinating character in

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these notes. He takes over in 1863. Right in

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the middle of the Civil War. Yes. And he stays

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president for 37 years. Which is unheard of.

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Today, a university president lasts, what, maybe

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five years? Seven? It's a notoriously high burnout

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job. If they're lucky. 37 years is a reign. It

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really is. And that kind of longevity allows

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you to build a true legacy. Mahler is the one

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who says we need to move. He buys the property

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on College Avenue, which is where they are today,

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and he oversees the construction of Francis Hall.

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Now, looking at the architectural notes, this

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isn't just a classroom building. This is a fortress

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of German identity. The sources describe it as

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having strong German architectural influences.

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built between 1871 and 1898. I mean, that is

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a 27 -year construction project. They were building

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it to last a thousand years. It's limestone.

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It's heavy. It completely anchors the campus.

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But here is the tension. They built this German

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fortress, but the world around them kept changing.

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And you see this reflected perfectly in the name

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changes over the decades. Right. St. Francis

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Solanus College becomes just Quincy College in

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1917. Now, 1917, that is not a coincidence. Not

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at all. World War I is raging. The United States

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is at war with Germany. Suddenly being a overtly

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German institution with a foreign sounding name

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isn't a selling point. It's a massive liability.

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It's survival mode. You have to read the room.

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Precisely. Changing it to Quincy College grounds

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it in the local American geography. It says we

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are part of this city, not we are part of the

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old world. It's a rebranding exercise forced

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by geopolitics. And then much later, in 1993,

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it shifts again to Quincy University. That's

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a status signal. By the 90s, they had added graduate

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programs like master's degrees in business, education,

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counseling. In the American hierarchy, University

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carries a lot more weight than college. It signals

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professional preparation. It tells prospective

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students that the institution has grown up. But

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this is the thing that really surprised me. Despite

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the rebranding, the wars, and the modernization,

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they kept the original motto. I am the herald

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of the great king. It's the dying words of St.

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Francis Solanus. It's their way of saying, you

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can call us Quincy, you can give us graduate

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programs, but at the core, we are still friars.

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Let's dig into that academic aspect because the

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history here is surprisingly practical. I think

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we have this stereotype that religious schools

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in the 1800s were just teaching Latin, theology,

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and maybe some philosophy. The classic ivory

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tower stereotype? Right. I'm looking at the notes

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from the 1870s, and they are teaching commercial

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programs. They're teaching accounting alongside

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Aquinas. That is the Franciscan pragmatism coming

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through. You have to remember who their students

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were. They were the sons of immigrants. They

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needed to run hardware stores, breweries, farms.

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They needed to build a local economy. They needed

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jobs. Exactly. The Friars understood that if

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you want to elevate a community, you can't just

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feed the soul. You have to feed the family. That

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DNA feels very present in how they're structured

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today. They have five schools now, Fine Arts

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and Communication, Humanities, Science and Technology,

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Education and Human Services, and the Oakley

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School of Business. But the source material highlights

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a specific initiative launched in 2020 called

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Success by Design. This is probably the most

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critical thing they are doing right now. And

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to understand why, you have to understand the

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current crisis in higher education. The enrollment

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cliff. Exactly. There are simply fewer 18 year

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olds in America right now. Small colleges are

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fighting for their lives. Parents and students

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are asking if this degree is actually worth the

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debt. So Quincy launches Success by Design. It

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is essentially a promise of hyper personalization.

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The documentation says every undergraduate gets

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an individual Student Success Plan. And not just

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once, but updated every single year. Think about

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the massive labor that requires. At a giant state

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university, you are often just a number. You

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might see an academic advisor for 10 minutes

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once a semester. Quincy is flipping that model

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completely. They are saying, we are small and

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that is our superpower. We'll curate your entire

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four years to make sure you get a return on your

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investment. It includes what they call high -impact

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learning. research, internships. But they pair

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it with something called the Bonaventure program.

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Which is their general education core. And the

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non -negotiable part of that program is service.

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It doesn't matter if you are a nursing major

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or a computer science major, you have to do service

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hours. That ties directly back to those friars

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in 1860. It does. They are telling students,

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get your job, make your money, but remember you

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are part of a broader community. It's that exact

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blend of the commercial and the spiritual again.

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It really does seem like they are trying to produce

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a very specific type of person. Now, we talked

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about Francis Hall being the anchor, but let's

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mentally walk the campus for a second so you

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can really picture it. It's described as compact

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and walkable. It's nice, but I love the quirks.

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The quirks are always where the history hides.

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The quirks tell the best stories. What stood

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out to you? The chapel. built in 1911, a beautiful,

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holy space. But the notes say the design was

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shortened and modified for a very specific reason.

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To save the baseball field. Yes, I love that

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detail so much. 1911, they were building a literal

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house of God and someone says, well, if we build

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the nave too long, we lose center field. And

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the baseball field won. Or at least it forced

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a serious architectural compromise. It speaks

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volumes about the American college experience.

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Athletics and faith have always been competing

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religions in a way, but it also shows how incredibly

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tight the campus fumbprint is. They are locked

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into a residential neighborhood near the business

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district. They have to fight for every square

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inch. Speaking of fighting for space, they did

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expand to what they call North Campus. Which

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is a fascinating example of adaptive reuse. That

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facility used to be a Franciscan seminary. It

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was where they specifically trained priests,

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but as the number of vocations dropped over the

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decades, they didn't just sell it off, they converted

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it. Now it houses the science and technology

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division and the Connie Nieman Center for Music.

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So the chapel where they used to pray is now

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a media studio. Essentially, yes, it houses the

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Quincy Media Incorporated television studio,

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too. They turn the sacred into the scientific

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and the broadcast. Though, again, a Franciscan

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will probably tell you that studying biology

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or communicating truth is just another way of

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studying creation. It's a very practical use

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of their asset. And we can't talk about the campus

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without mentioning the limestone walls around

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the athletic fields. built in the 1930s. It gives

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the place a real gladiator vibe. It feels historic,

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very rooted, and that naturally leads us to the

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Hawks. Right, the Hawks. Victor E. Hawk is the

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mascot. Colors are brown and white. Standard

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stuff. Yeah. But the athletics program is where

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I got a bit confused, and I need you to untangle

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this for us. They are NCAA Division II. They

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play in the Great Lakes Valley Conference. That

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is exactly what you expect for a school with

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1 ,300 students. Mostly. But then I see men's

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soccer. They have 11 NAIA national championships.

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That is a legitimate dynasty. It is. Before they

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moved to the NCAA, they were an absolute powerhouse

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in the NAIA. That legacy still attracts talent

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today. But the real anomaly, the thing that makes

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sports data nerds look twice, is men's volleyball.

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Explain this. They were Division II, but they

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play against the Giants. Men's volleyball is

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unique in the NCAA. There just aren't enough

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teams across the country to have separate divisions.

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So the championship is open. Quincy plays in

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the MIVA, the Midwestern Intercollegiate Volleyball

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Association. That means this small Franciscan

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school is lining up across the net from Ohio

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State, from Penn State, from massive Division

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I powerhouses. Yeah, and they hold their own.

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They are punching way above their weight class.

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It brings a level of national visibility to the

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university that they just wouldn't get otherwise.

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David versus Goliath story every weekend. But

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the weirdest addition, and the source says this

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just started in fall 2022, is sprint football.

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I honestly didn't know what this was. I thought

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maybe it meant, you know, really fast football,

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like you have to snap the ball every 10 seconds.

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A logical guess, honestly. But no. Sprint football

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is regular American football. Same pads, same

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hits, same exact rules. But with one major catch,

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there is a strict weight limit. 178 pounds. Correct.

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If you weigh 179 pounds, you do not play. It's

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not governed by the NCAA at all. That changes

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the game completely. No 300 -pound lineman. It

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makes it a game of pure speed, agility, and strategy.

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It's a very new sport. Historically, it was played

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almost exclusively at military academies like

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Navy and Army or Ivy League schools like Penn

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and Cornell. So why is Quincy, a small Catholic

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school in Illinois, adopting this Ivy League

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military sport? It goes right back to the enrollment

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cliff we talked about earlier. Think about the

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high school football player who loves the game,

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is incredibly athletic, but weighs 165 pounds.

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He is never going to play division two or division

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one football. He's just too small. Quincy says,

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come here. You can play varsity football for

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four years. It's a brilliant recruitment tool.

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It opens up an entirely new market of students

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who wouldn't have looked at Quincy otherwise.

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It is brilliant, actually. It fits that whole

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theme of success by design, find a niche, serve

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it well. But all these pivots, the name changes,

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the new sports, the master's degrees, they usually

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come from a place of necessity. And the financial

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records show things got pretty scary recently.

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They did. It wasn't all smooth sailing. In 2016,

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the music stopped. The university announced a

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$5 million deficit. For a school with an endowment

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the size of Quincy's, $5 million is not a rounding

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error. That is an existential threat. It is.

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The source material uses the phrase significant

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financial issues, which is essentially polite

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corporate speak for we might have to close our

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doors. So what actually happened? A combination

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of things. Enrollment dips, the massive maintenance

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costs on those historic limestone buildings we

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talked about, but the recovery is the truly interesting

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part. Usually when a small college hits a wall

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like this, they enter a death spiral. Quincy

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didn't. They pulled off a turnaround. Was it

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just cutting costs? Cuts were part of it, certainly.

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But you can't cut your way to long -term growth

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they had to be invested in. And in 2021, the

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Oakley family gave $6 .5 million. That is more

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than double the previous largest gift in the

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school's history. Hence the naming of the Oakley

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School of Business. Right. But... You don't give

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$6 .5 million to a sinking ship. You give it

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to a ship you believe can be fixed and steered

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back on course. That donation signaled to everyone

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else that Quincy is staying. And then in 2018,

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they secured a major federal grant, $2 .25 million

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from the Department of Education specifically

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for STEM access. So you have local philanthropy

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and federal tax dollars coming together to prop

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this up. It proves that the community, both the

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local business community and the broader academic

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community, saw immense value in keeping the university

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alive. They recognized that if Quincy disappears,

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the region loses something irreplaceable. And

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part of that value is the output, the alumni.

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We really need to talk about this list because

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Eclectic doesn't even begin to cover it. You

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are looking at the full spectrum of humanity

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here. It is a study in contrasts, absolutely.

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Let's start with the light. We have a legitimate

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candidate for sainthood, the Venerable Father

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Augustine Tolton. An incredibly significant historical

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figure. He lived from 1854 to 1897. He was the

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first openly African American Catholic priest

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in the United States. His story intersects with

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the college right at the very beginning. It does

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and it was not an easy path. You have to remember

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the racial climate of the 1860s and 70s. No American

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seminary would accept him because he was black.

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The friars at St. Francis' Solana, specifically

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the Franciscans there, stepped in. They helped

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educate him so he could eventually go to Rome

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to be ordained. So the university played a pivotal,

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hands -on role in breaking that color barrier

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in the church. Exactly. He is a hero of the faith.

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But then... You scan further down the alumni

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list. And you see Michael Swango. Yes. Now, for

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anyone listening who doesn't follow true crime,

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Michael Swango was a physician, but he was also

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a prolific serial killer. He is suspected of

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fatally poisoning up to 60 of his patients and

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colleagues over his career. It is genuinely jarring

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to see those two names, Tolton and Swango, on

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the exact same Wikipedia overview. The Saint

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and the Serial Killer. No. We are just stating

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the facts here without sensationalizing. But

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the contrast with the Franciscan values is stark.

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It is stark. But I think it serves as a rather

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sobering reminder of what a university actually

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is at its core. It is a tool provider. Quincy

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gave both of those men an education. It gave

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them knowledge. What they ultimately did with

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that knowledge comes down to human free will.

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The Franciscan tradition heavily emphasizes hospitality

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and service, but an institution cannot force

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you to be good. Swango is a factual statistical

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anomaly in their history, but he is part of the

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record. And in between those two extreme polls,

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you have just really successful, interesting

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people doing their thing. You've got the guy

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from the band Chicago. James Pankow, the trombonist,

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he wrote Make Me Smile and a bunch of their hits.

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I had no idea he was a Quincy alum. And then

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John Mahoney. The dad from Frasier. Absolutely

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brilliant actor. It just shows that despite the

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commercial focus we talked about earlier, the

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fine arts program there is serious and produces

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real talent. And on the sports side, Josh Kinney,

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who was a relief pitcher for the Cardinals, Josh

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Rabe for the Minnesota Twins. And then in politics,

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you have Francis G. Slay, who was a former mayor

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of St. Louis, and Lindell Shoemake in the Missouri

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House. It shows that the school consistently

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produces leaders, whether that's in City Hall,

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on a Major League Baseball diamond, or on a rock

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stage. It is clearly not a factory stamping out

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identical widgets. It is a community that gives

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people the foundation to find their specific

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lane. So when we step back and look at the whole

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picture for you from the German Friars arriving

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on the frontier in 1860 to this Sprint football

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team lining up in 2024, what is the big takeaway?

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What is the narrative arc of Quincy University?

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For me, synthesizing all of this, Quincy University

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is a master class in resilience through identity.

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Unpack that a little bit. Well, look at everything

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that changed. The name changed three distinct

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times. The actual physical buildings changed.

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They went from speaking and teaching in German

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to English. They went from primarily training

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priests to training modern business owners and

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educators. But the soul of the place never changed.

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The Herald of the Great King. Exactly. They are

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still hyper focused on hospitality. They are

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still deeply community oriented. They survived

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the massive financial crisis and the world wars

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because they knew exactly why they existed. They

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weren't just a business selling degrees. They

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were serving a specific mission. And when you

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have a remarkably clear mission like that, you

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can adapt your tactics like adding spring football

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or rolling out success by design without losing

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your way. It's the difference between being stubborn.

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and being steadfast. Stubborn is refusing to

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change anything at all as the world moves on.

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Steadfast is changing everything around you so

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you can keep doing the one core thing that actually

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matters. That is a perfect way to synthesize

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it. They adapted the vessel to protect the cargo.

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So here is the provocative thought I want to

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leave you in today. We are currently living in

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the age of massive online degrees, of AI generated

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coursework, of educational efficiency at all

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costs. Quincy is essentially betting its entire

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institutional future on the exact opposite approach.

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They're betting on success by design. They're

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betting on human -to -human mentorship, highly

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individualized plans, small classes, and mandatory

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community service. It is a massive high -stakes

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bet. They are betting that high -touch ultimately

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beats high -tech when it comes to human development.

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So the question to mull over, is this in an era

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of mass education, is this the only way small

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private colleges actually survive? Do they have

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to revert back to becoming the bespoke tailors

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of education in a world flooded with off -the

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-rack degrees? Or is that highly personalized,

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mentor -based model just too expensive and doomed

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to eventually fade away? That is the exact question

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that will define the next 166 years for them.

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But if their history is any indicator at all,

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I certainly wouldn't bet against the Friars.

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Thanks for diving in with us. We'll catch you

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on the next one.
