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Welcome back to the deep dive. Look, I want to

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start today with a premise that, well, it might

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sound a little crazy to you. OK, lay it on me.

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So we usually give credit for the invention of

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reality TV to Hollywood producers in the early

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2000s, right? Yeah, like Survivor. Exactly. Survivor,

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the real world, that whole era. But if you look

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at the stack of research we have for today, the

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biographies, old newsletters, the archives, There's

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a very strong argument that the true architect

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of blurring the line between script and reality

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wasn't a TV executive in LA at all. No, not even

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close. It was a guy from Lexington, Tennessee,

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working in a wrestling ring in the 1980s. And

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we aren't talking about Hulk Hogan today. We're

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not talking about The Rock. We are taking a deep

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dive into the mind of a man named Eddie Gilbert.

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Yeah, hot stuff, Eddie Gilbert. And it is, I

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mean, it's a fascinating case study because to

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the casual observer, he might just look like

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a mid -card wrestler from the territory days.

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But when you really dig into the source material

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like we did, you realize he was a master manipulator.

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He was a psychological genius who wanted you

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to believe the show was real so badly that he

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was willing to do almost anything And the mission

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for this deep dive is really to figure out how

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he did it. How does a guy who was told he would

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never walk or wrestle again reinvent himself

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into one of the most brilliant and honestly dangerous

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minds in the business. And perhaps more importantly,

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how that obsession with, you know, working the

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audience eventually consumed him. So let's unpack

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this, because with Eddie Gilbert, you can't just

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start with his debut. You really have to go back

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to when he was a literal child. The sources mentioned

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that by the second grade, this kid wasn't just

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a fan. He was obsessed. Obsessed is exactly the

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right word. Most seven year olds are, I don't

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know, drawing stick figures or playing with trucks.

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Eddie Gilbert was writing articles. In second

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grade. Yeah, he was taking photographs for wrestling

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magazines. He was trying to get his name in print,

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trying to get backstage credentials. He was effectively

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acting like a 30 -year -old journalist before

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he even hit puberty. That is just wild. He wanted

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to be in the business before he could even tie

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his own shoes properly. Exactly. And that singular

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focus really defined his entire life. There is

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this incredible detail in the lore, and it's

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widely accepted as fact in the biographies about

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his high school graduation. Oh, I read this part.

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Right. So think about your own graduation. It's

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a big deal, right? The family, the photos, the

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gown. Oh, yeah. Huge milestone. Well, rumor has

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it Eddie skipped his. He skipped his own graduation.

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He allegedly got in his car and drove to the

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Mid -South Coliseum in Memphis to wrestle in

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the first round of an undercard match. Wow. And

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here's the kicker. He lost. Oh, man. Yeah, he

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missed one of the biggest nights of a teenager's

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life to go earn like five bucks and lose a fake

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fight in front of a half empty arena. I mean,

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that is a special kind of dedication or madness.

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It's definitely both. and it sets the stage perfectly.

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He started his career officially in 1977 as Tommy

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Gilbert Jr., which was honoring his father, the

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legend Tommy Gilbert. And at first, he played

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the role perfectly. He was the baby face, right?

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The good guy. The quintessential baby face. Clean

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cut, polite, technical wrestler. He won tag team

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titles with his dad. He was the guy you'd bring

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home to meet your parents. He even went to the

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WWF, what is now WWE, in 1982 and was touted

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as the protege of the champ. So picture this.

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He's on this trajectory to be this wholesome,

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athletic star. He's doing everything right. But

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then, 1983 happens. Yeah. This is the turning

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point. Honestly, if you take one thing away from

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this deep dive today, it's that you cannot understand

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Eddie Gilbert without understanding the 1983

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car crash. Because this wasn't a fender bender.

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No, not at all. It was catastrophic. He suffered

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severe trauma. We're talking injuries to his

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neck, his back, his chest, his arms. He was broken.

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Geez. The doctors looked at this 22 -year -old

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kid and said, it's over. You are done. You will

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never wrestle again. For a guy who skipped his

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high school graduation to be in the ring, hearing

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you'll never wrestle again must have been an

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absolute death sentence. It was an identity crisis.

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And the physical aftermath was just brutal. He

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required extensive plastic surgery to repair

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the damage to his face and upper body. Actually,

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here is a detail that always sticks with me.

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You know the look he became famous for later?

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The flashy suits and the full beard. Yeah, the

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classic hot stuff look. He didn't grow that beard

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because it was trendy. He grew it specifically

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to hide the scars on his face from the plastic

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surgery. Wow. Yeah, he was literally wearing

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the trauma of that accident on his face for the

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rest of his career. But he didn't say retired.

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And this is where we get the first glimpse of

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his genius and his recklessness, really. He returns

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to the ring in August 1983, which is only months

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after this near -fatal crash. Which is medically

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insane, by the way. Completely. But what fascinates

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me is how he handled it creatively. Because most

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people would try to hide the injury, right? Pretend

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they are 100 % healthy so they don't look weak

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to the opponent. Right. That's the instinct.

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Protect yourself. But Gilbert went the exact

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opposite way. He exploited it. He goes on TV.

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And at first, he plays the sympathy card. He

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claims Bob Backlund inspired his recovery. But

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then, they work an angle, a storyline with a

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wrestler named the Masked Superstar. This is

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where it gets really uncomfortable to watch.

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It does. The Masked Superstar executes multiple

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neckbreakers on Eddie. Neckbreakers. On a guy

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who literally just had his neck reconstructed.

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Exactly. And the audience knows about the crash.

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It was in the news. So when they see Eddie taking

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these moves and then... taking a final one on

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the concrete floor and getting stretchered out.

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The fear in that building isn't fake. It's real.

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He used his own real -life excruciating pain

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to manipulate the audience. He established a

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pattern right there. It was like he was saying,

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I will put my actual life at risk to make you

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believe in the show. It blurs the line immediately.

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Is he hurt? Yes. Is it part of the show? Yes.

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And that ambiguity is where Eddie Gilbert lived

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for the rest of his life. That moment really

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seems to kill off Tommy Gilbert Jr., the nice

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guy. He realizes that playing nice isn't going

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to get him to the top. Precisely. He shifts gears

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entirely. He goes to the CWA in Memphis and later

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the UWF, the Universal Wrestling Federation,

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and he becomes hot stuff. He turns heel. He becomes

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arrogant, loud, flashy. He starts managing a

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stable called Hot Stuff International. Think.

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I love looking at the roster of that stable in

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the archives. Because if you look at who he was

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managing before they were megastars, it's actually

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insane. He had a young Sting. Blade Runner Sting

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at the time, yeah. And the Ultimate Warrior.

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Blade Runner Rock. Can you imagine? Eddie Gilbert,

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who wasn't exactly a giant, standing in the middle,

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barking orders at Sting and the Ultimate Warrior.

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It's a great visual, but it makes perfect sense.

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Eddie was the brain. He was the mouthpiece. He

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saw the potential in these guys before anyone

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else did, and he was teaching them how to be

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stars. He was teaching them how to get heat,

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how to make the crowd genuinely hate them, which

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in wrestling equals money. But his genius wasn't

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just on the microphone. By the late 80s, Eddie

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Gilbert wasn't just performing. He was booking

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the territory. And for those listening who might

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not know the term, booking basically means writing

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the show, right? Yes. The Booker is the head

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writer, the director, and the casting agent all

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rolled into one. They decide who wins, who loses,

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and what the overarching dramatic arc is. And

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he was incredibly good at it. He was. In fact,

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the Wrestling Observer Newsletter named him best

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Booker of 1988. That is a highly prestigious

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award in the industry. He was praised for his

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creativity, particularly his work in the Continental

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Wrestling Federation. But his style, it wasn't

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polished, was it? It wasn't the clean, family

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-friendly sports entertainment you saw on Saturday

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mornings with the WWF. Far from it. Gilbert favored

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chaos. He understood that violence, real violence,

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is messy. It's unpredictable. So he booked shows

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that felt like they were literally falling apart.

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The perfect example of this is the Battle of

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New Orleans in late 1987. Oh, this story is legendary.

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It really is. It involves Chris Adams, Terry

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Taylor, and Sting. Gilbert booked a match that

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just dissolved. It spilled out of the ring, went

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into the stands, and ended up in the concession

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area. We're talking about a food fight. A very

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dangerous food fight. They were throwing beer

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kegs, steel chairs, trash cans, tables. Even

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the popcorn machine wasn't safe. It was absolute

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bedlam. And the reason it worked so well was

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that it didn't look choreographed. It looked

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like a riot. It looked like the promotion had

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completely lost control of the fighters and security

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couldn't do anything about it. That's the hot

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stuff signature. Making you feel like you're

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watching something forbidden. But if you want

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to talk about truly manipulating the audience,

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about really tricking people, we have to talk

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about the feud with Jerry the King Lawler. This

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is the peak. This is 1990 in the USWA. Now, context

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is key here. In Memphis, Tennessee, Jerry Lawler

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is not just a wrestler. He is a god. He is royalty.

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Like the mayor and the star quarterback combined.

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Exactly. And Eddie Gilbert knew that to get real

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heat, to get the crowd to genuinely despise him,

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he had to do something unthinkable. So he scripts

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a firing angle. Yeah. He and his brother Doug

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Gilbert get fired on air. Standard wrestling

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trope. The disgruntled ex -employees. But they

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took it 10 steps further. They filmed a segment

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where they are driving a car and they run over

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Jerry Lawler. A hit and run on television. A

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vehicular assault and they flee the scene. Now,

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today, if you saw that on TV, you'd check Twitter,

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you'd see the behind -the -scenes photos, and

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you'd know it was a skit. But in 1990? In 1990,

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in Memphis, people bought it. They bought it

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hook, line, and sinker. They didn't just boo

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the TV screen. They panicked. Home viewers were

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watching this, and they believed they had just

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witnessed a murder attempt on their local hero.

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They started calling the police. The actual police?

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Yes. The local police switchboards lit up. People

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were screaming, Jerry Lawler has been hit by

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a car. Eddie Gilber— He's driving a Chevy. Go

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get him. The police were literally getting ready

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to go arrest Eddie Gilbert for attempted vehicular

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homicide. That is unbelievable. It got so bad

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that Lawler, who was supposed to be selling the

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injury in the hospital, had to immediately go

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on live television. He had to break character,

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show his face, and basically say, I'm alive.

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I'm OK. Please stop calling the cops. That is

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the ultimate magician's trick. Eddie Gilbert

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convinced an entire city that he had committed

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a felony. It speaks to the sociological impact

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of his work. He understood that if you present

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violence in a rough, unpolished way, people revert

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to believing it's real. He was playing with fire,

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quite literally. He wanted that reaction. He

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wanted the police involved because that meant

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he had done his job perfectly. It's fascinating

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because he spent so much energy protecting the

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business, protecting K -Fabe. The idea that wrestling

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is real. He went to these extreme lengths. But

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then... only a few years later in 1994, he does

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something that completely contradicts all of

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that. This is a pivotal moment that often gets

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overlooked in wrestling history. In 1994, he

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sits down for a filmed interview titled Looking

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for Mr. Gilbert. And this wasn't hot stuff shuttling

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at the camera, right? No, he sat down as himself.

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Thomas Edward Gilbert Jr. And he spoke openly

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about the machinations of the business. He talked

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about booking, about the politics, about how

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the matches were put together, who decided the

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finishes. This must have been treason. It was

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taboo, strictly forbidden. You did not pull back

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the curtain. You certainly didn't sell a videotape

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explaining how you tripped everyone. But Gilbert

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did. This interview is considered the first professional

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wrestling shoot interview. So he basically invented

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the genre of content we consume today, the inside

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baseball of wrestling. He did. He paved the way

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for a massive industry of shoot videos and behind

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the scenes content. He was the first one to realize

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that there was an audience who wanted to know

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how the magic trick was done. So he went from

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being the master of the illusion, the guy who

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made you call the cops, to the first one to sell

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you the blueprints. It's such a contradiction,

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but it fits him perfectly. She was always ahead

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of the curve. And speaking of being ahead of

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the curve, we really have to talk about ECW.

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Yes, absolutely. Now, most people hear ECW and

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they immediately think of Paul Heyman. They think

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of the extreme violence, the barbed wire, the

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counterculture movement of the late 90s. Right.

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But before it was extreme championship wrestling,

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it was Eastern championship wrestling. And in

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1993, the head booker was Eddie Gilbert. He was

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running the show. He wasn't just running it.

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At one point, he owned 49 % of the company. He

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was the creative force. He brought his chaotic,

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brawling, Battle of New Orleans style straight

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to Philadelphia. So the DNA of ECW, that gritty,

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dangerous feel that actually started with Gilbert.

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Absolutely. Gilbert laid the groundwork. He eventually

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passed the torch and the booking position to

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Paul Heyman in September 1993. And Heyman, being

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a genius in his own right, took what Gilbert

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started and dialed it up to 11. He renamed it

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Extreme Championship Wrestling. But if you look

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at the genesis of that third major brand, Eddie

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Gilbert's fingerprints are all over the foundation.

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It seems like everywhere you look in wrestling

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history from that era, Eddie Gilbert was there,

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starting fires that other people would eventually

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tend to. But sadly, his own flame burned out

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incredibly fast. It did. His personal life was

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just as fast paced as his booking. He had high

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profile marriages to valets like Missy Hyatt

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and Medusa. He was living the gimmick 24 -7.

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He didn't seem to have an off switch. And then

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we get to February 18th, 1995. Isla Verde, Puerto

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Rico. Eddie Yilbert is found dead in his apartment.

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It's tragic. He was so young. He's 33 years old.

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33. That is heartbreaking. It was a massive heart

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attack. He died in his sleep. But here is the

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tragic connection that brings us all the way

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back to the beginning of the discussion. A car

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accident. Yes. His father, Tommy Gilbert, stated

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later that the chest and heart muscle injuries

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Eddie suffered in that 1983 crash contributed

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to his heart condition. The physical trauma never

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really went away. There wasn't just the physical

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trauma. It was how he managed it, right? Exactly.

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Chronic pain. Remember, he was told he would

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never wrestle again. But he wrestled for 12 more

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years. To do that, to get through the night,

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the allegations are that he relied heavily on

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painkillers. So the very thing that created his

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hot stuff persona, that accident, that refusal

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to quit it, was slowly killing him the entire

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time. It's the ultimate tragedy of his life.

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He spent his career convincing the world that

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the fake violence in the ring was real. But in

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the end, the real violence of his past, that

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car crash, caught up with him. It's a heavy realization.

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He gave everything to the business. I mean, his

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last match, and I actually had to double check

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this in the source notes because it sounded completely

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fake. His last match was against a bear. It's

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true, a wrestling bear. It just shows the carnival

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nature of the business he was in. He worked right

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up until the very end, entertaining the crowd

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no matter what it took. Despite the tragedy,

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his legacy is absolutely cemented. He's in the

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Hardcore Hall of Fame. He was just inducted into

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the Indie Wrestling Hall of Fame in the Class

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of 2024. People are still starting his tapes.

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And they really should be because he understood

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the psychology of the audience better than almost

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anyone. He was a bridge. He bridged the gap between

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the old school territorial wrestling of the 70s

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and the modern edgy crash TV era of the 90s.

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He taught the next generation how to talk, how

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to walk and how to riot. And he taught us that

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sometimes The most captivating stories are the

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ones where you truly can't tell what is real

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and what is scripted. Exactly. He was the boy

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who cried wolf, but he made the wolf look so

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convincing that we all ran for cover. It really

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makes you think we live in an era now of constant

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information. We have the Internet, social media,

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dirt sheets, Reddit. We think we know everything

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about everyone. We're a very cynical audience

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now. So here is the question I want to leave

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you with today. Couldn't Eddie Gilbert exist

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now? Could a magician like him actually fool

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us today? Or was he the last of a dying breed

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who could truly make us call the police because

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we believed the show was real? That's the big

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question. I'd like to think there's still room

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for magic, but I haven't seen anyone do it quite

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like Eddie since. A true original. Thanks for

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listening to this deep dive into the chaotic

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life of Eddie Gilbert. We'll catch you on the

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next one.
