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Okay, so, usually when we prep for these deep

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dives, I am wading through just this massive

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mountain of PDFs. Oh yeah, the usual suspects.

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Right, you know the drill. Peer -reviewed studies,

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news articles, maybe a 50 -page manifesto if

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we get lucky. But for today, the stack is thin.

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I mean... suspiciously thin. It is practically

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non -existent, honestly. We are looking at a

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topic that consists of a few sparse taxonomic

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records, some dates from the jazz age, and a

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Wikipedia entry that is literally classified

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as a stub. Which is pretty right for us. It is.

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And honestly, that's exactly why I wanted to

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do this one. We are always talking to you, the

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listener, about what science knows. But today,

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I want to talk about a glitch in the matrix.

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I want to talk about what science forgot. It's

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a really fascinating exercise because usually

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we analyze the data, right? Today, we are effectively

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analyzing the silence. We are looking at the

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negative space in the library of biology to see

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what shape it makes. And that shape is a frog.

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Specifically, the mimic tree frog. Ah, yes. Hyla

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imitator. Or... If we are being rigorous about

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the source text, and we really should be, it

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is quote unquote Hyla imitator. Yeah, we definitely

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have to talk about the punctuation there. Yeah.

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Because that was the very first thing that jumped

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out at me. Hard to miss. Right. So in the amphibian

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species of the world database, which for anyone

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who doesn't know, is like the gold standard hosted

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by the American Museum of Natural History. The

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genus name Hyla is written inside quotation marks.

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Like, scare quotes. It is not a typo. I can assure

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you of that. It looks so sarcastic, though. Like,

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the scientists are sitting there saying, yeah,

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sure, it's a hyla. Whatever you say, buddy. It

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really does look that way to a layperson. But

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in taxonomy, the actual science of classification,

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those quotes are a very loud, formal warning

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siren. Oh, warning siren. Yes. They signify that

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the species is inserta sadis within that group.

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Okay. Translation, please. It means that while

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it is currently parked in the Gemus Hyla, the

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herpetological community knows it does not actually

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belong there. So it's basically squatting. In

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a sense, yeah. It is pending a taxonomic resolution.

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The experts are essentially saying, look, we

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know this frog exists, we have a name for it,

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but we have absolutely no idea who its real family

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is. So we are just leaving it here until we figure

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it out. That seems, I don't know, it seems messy.

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I always imagined science as this rigid, perfectly

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organized filing cabinet. Oh, not even close.

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Right. But this feels like someone just shoved

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a loose paper into the miscellaneous folder and

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walked away for 100 years. That is a harsh but

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incredibly fair assessment of historical taxonomy.

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You have to remember, biological classification

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is always in flux. We have the broad strokes

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down, obviously. We know it is an animal. It's

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a chordate. It's an amphibian. We know it is

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in the order Anura, which are the frogs, and

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the family Hylidae. But the genus level is where

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it falls apart. Exactly. The genus is the immediate

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family, and this frog is effectively an orphan.

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It's a Jane Doe with a Latin name. That is a

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perfect way to put it. And the reason it is stranded

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there brings us right to the history. Because

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this is not a new discovery. No, not at all.

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This isn't something we found last week in a

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drone survey of the canopy. This frog has been

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on the books since 1921. Let's dig into that

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timeline, actually, because I think it explains

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a lot of the mess. The source material lists

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the original description by Thomas Barber and

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ER Dunn. Absolute legends in the field. 1921.

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I just want to pause on that date for a second.

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We are talking about a time before GPS, before

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DNA sequencing, before satellite imagery. Absolutely.

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When Barbara and Dunn were working, herpetology

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was a very rough game. You are trekking into

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the central Amazon, which, let's be clear, is

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an ecosystem the size of a continent. Right.

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It's incredibly hostile, dense with humidity,

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biting insects, diseases. You aren't out there

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taking high -res photos on a macro lens. You're

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just trying to survive. Pretty much. You are

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catching specimens, often by hand, euthanizing

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them and preserving them in jars of alcohol or

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formalin to ship back on a boat to a museum in

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the U .S. or Europe. So the quote -unquote data

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we have today basically comes from a jar that

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has been sitting on a shelf somewhere since the

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Harding administration. Most likely, yes. And

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that context is crucial for understanding the

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taxonomic mess. So in 1921, they named it Pelluticola

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imitator. Okay. Then in 1927, another prominent

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researcher named Parker looked at it and said,

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no, that looks like a hyla, and he moved it.

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And that's where the trail goes cold. That is

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where it freezes completely. But here's the thing

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that drives me absolutely crazy about this whole

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file. The name. Imitator. This specific epithet,

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yes. It is called the mimic tree frog. Now, I

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am not a biologist, obviously, but words mean

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things. Usually, yes. If you call something a

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mimic, you are implying it looks like something

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else. I mean, a stick insect looks like a stick.

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A mimic octopus can contort itself to look like

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a sea snake. Correct. That is the biological

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definition of mimicry. So I scoured these records.

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I looked for the field notes. I really wanted

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to know what this thing is mimicking. And what

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did you find? Nothing. Does it look like a leaf?

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Does it look like bird poop? Does it look like

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a poisonous dart frog? The source text is just

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completely empty on this. It is the supreme irony

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of this entire deep dive. We have the label,

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the mimic. But the file does not tell us what

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the model is. How is that even possible? Barbara

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and Dunn must have seen it mimicking something

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in the wild to name it that, right? Not necessarily.

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And this is where the limitations of 1920s science

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really come back to bite us. Remember those jars

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of alcohol I mentioned a minute ago? Yeah. When

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you preserve a frog in alcohol, something really

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tragic happens. The colors fade. Yes. A vibrant

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green, yellow, or red frog turns into a muddy,

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grayish -brown lump within weeks, let alone years.

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Oh, wow. I didn't even think of that. So Barbara

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and Dunn might have seen something spectacular

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in the field. Maybe it was mimicking a toxic

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beetle or a specific lechon pattern on a tree

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trunk, and they enthusiastically named it Imitator.

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But the evidence vanished. Exactly. If they did

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not write down a highly detailed color description

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in 1921, or if those field notes were lost in

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transit or in archive, all we have left is the

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grayish -brown lump in the jar. We have the name,

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but the visual evidence has literally dissolved.

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That is heartbreaking. It is like having the

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punchline, but completely losing the joke. It

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is incredibly frustrating for modern researchers,

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but we can speculate a bit based on the family.

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In Hyalidae, mimicry usually falls into two buckets.

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Okay, what are they? You have crypsis, which

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is essentially camouflage, looking like bark

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or leaves to hide from predators. Blending in.

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Right. Or you have Batesian mimicry. That is

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where a harmless frog evolves to look exactly

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like a highly toxic species to scare things off.

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Given the central Amazon setting, looking like

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a toxic neighbor seems like a pretty smart play.

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It is a very smart play. There are plenty of

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poison dart frogs in that region. If Hyla Imitator

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has bright warning colors or had them, I should

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say it might be pretending to be one of those.

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But without a fresh specimen, we are just guessing

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at shadows. We are entirely guessing. Which brings

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us to the modern reality of this frog. I look

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at the conservation status thinking, OK, surely

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someone has checked on it recently. We have satellites

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now. Yeah. But the IUCN red list status is just

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listed as data deficient. The most frustrating

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two words in conservation biology. It sounds

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like a comp out. Data deficient. It feels like

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the teacher asking for your homework and you

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just saying, I plead the fifth. It does sound

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evasive. Does it mean it's extinct? No. Does

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it mean it's fine? We cannot say that either.

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So what does it actually mean? technically speaking.

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To place a species on the red list as endangered

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or vulnerable you need math the iucn has very

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strict rigorous criteria you can't just guess

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exactly you need to calculate the area of occupancy

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literally how many square kilometers they actually

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live in or you need population trend data showing

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a clear decline over three generations and we

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have zero of that we have a single data point

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from a century ago somewhere in the central amazon

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statistically that is zero you cannot draw a

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trend line with one dot right so data deficient

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isn't a lack of effort from scientists, it is

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a statement of statistical impossibility. We

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cannot assess the risk of extinction because

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we cannot even prove the frog is still there

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to be at risk. Wow. The source actually cites

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an assessment from 2004 by Miguel Trafote Rodriguez

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and Claudia Azevedo Ramos. So 20 years ago...

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Actual experts looked at this file and basically

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just shrugged. They didn't just shrug. They formally

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acknowledged the void. And you really have to

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think about the geography here. The central Amazon,

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that is not a backyard in the suburbs. No. We

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are talking about... Millions of square kilometers

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of dense, multilayered rainforest. It is a needle

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in a haystack, but the haystack is the size of

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the continental United States and the needle

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is actively hiding from you. Precisely. And if

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the frog is arboreal, meaning it lives high up

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in the canopy, you could walk right under it

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every day for 50 years and never know it was

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there. That concept that we can lose a species

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that we technically know about it really hit

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me when I looked at the Wikipedia entry itself.

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The source explicitly calls it a stub. The digital

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echo of the biological problem. Yeah. It says,

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quote, It is poignant, isn't it? It is an open

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invitation to the collective knowledge of humanity

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asking, does anyone know anything about this

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creature? And for decades, the answer has just

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been crickets. Or, I guess, silence. Silence,

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yes. But here is the really weird part. I was

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looking at the metadata, you know, the footer

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stuff that most people completely ignore at the

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bottom of the page. This page was last edited

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on October 3, 2025. Just a few months ago. Exactly.

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So someone or something is maintaining this file.

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But they didn't add any biology. They didn't

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add a photo. They didn't add a diet or a mating

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call. It was almost certainly a bot. Or maybe

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a taxonomy enthusiast updating a broken link

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or a category tag. Just shuffling the paperwork.

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Exactly. And this highlights a very modern problem

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in science. We have excellent metadata today.

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We have the taxon identifiers. I saw the list

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in the source. Wikidata Q3143873. IDAS ID 662518.

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Alphabet soup. But important alphabet soup. We

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have a flawless digital passport for this frog.

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But the passport has no photo and no stamps.

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That is the perfect analogy. We have the entire

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bureaucratic infrastructure ready for the frog,

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but we lack the frog itself. It's crazy. It exists

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perfectly in the database, but it might not exist

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in the forest anymore. Or conversely, it is thriving

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in the forest, and our database is just a hollow

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shell. The categories on that page are wild,

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too. It is categorized under endemic frogs of

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Brazil and amphibians described in 1921. It is

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defined entirely by its past. Yes. It's like

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a ghost of the 1920s haunting the 2020s server

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rooms. And that is exactly why stubs like this

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matter so much. We tend to think of the Internet

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and science by extension as this complete finished

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repository of all human knowledge. If it is not

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on Google, it does not exist. Right. We all think

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that. What Hyla Imitator proves that is false.

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The map still has holes in it. Big Amazon sized

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holes. Massive ones. Data deficient species actually

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make up a huge chunk of global biodiversity.

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Oh, absolutely. We focus on the tiger and the

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panda because they are big, they are charismatic,

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and we have tons of data on them. But the library

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of life is full of books with blank pages. This

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frog is just one of thousands of Jane Does out

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there waiting for a detective. So let's try to

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land this play and summarize what we've actually

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got here for you guys listening. Good idea. We

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have a frog from the central Amazon. It was found

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by the Indiana Jones generation of biologists

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over a century ago. It was named the Mimic, but

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we have absolutely no idea what it mimics because

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the color likely faded in a jar of alcohol 80

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or 90 years ago. Correct. And it is currently

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stuck in taxonomic purgatory with scare quotes

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around its genus name because we do not have

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the fresh DNA required to place it properly on

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the family tree. And despite satellites and AI

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and the entire globe being connected by the Internet,

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nobody has been able to fill in the blanks for

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a century. That is the situation in a nutshell.

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It is a humble and frankly necessary reminder

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of how little we actually know about our own

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planet. You know, I was thinking about the why

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of all this as I was prepping. Why haven't we

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found it? Is the Amazon just too big? That is

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the Occam's razor answer. The simplest explanation.

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Exactly. The Amazon is vast. The global funding

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for herpetological field research is incredibly

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low. And the specific area is extremely hard

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to access. It is by far the most likely explanation.

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But can we go back to the name one last time?

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Imitator. Sure. If you are a creature that has

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evolved specifically to look like something else,

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to blend in, to deceive, to go completely unnoticed.

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isn't it possible that we actually have found

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it? What do you mean by that? I mean, maybe researchers

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have picked it up a dozen times in the last 20

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years, but they looked at it and said, oh, that

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is just a common tree frog, or that is just a

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juvenile of this other widespread species, and

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they just threw it back. That, wow, that is a

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distinct possibility. Right, if it is a genuinely

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good mimic, its entire survival strategy is literally

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do not let them know I am me. Cryptic species.

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Yes, it happens more often than you'd think.

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We distinguish species in the field very often

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by morphology, their shape, and their color.

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Which is exactly what a mimic is trying to hack.

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Exactly. If the shape and color are designed

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by evolution to deceive, then yes, human eyes

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could easily be fooled. So they wouldn't even

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know they had the Holy Grail in their hands.

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They wouldn't. It might actually require genetic

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sequencing of hundreds of supposedly common frogs

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to suddenly realize that Hyla Imitator has been

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hiding in the data set the whole time. So it

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is not a ghost at all. It's an undercover agent.

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It is hiding in plain sight. I love that. That

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makes the data deficient label feel a lot less

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like a scientific failure and a lot more like

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a massive success story for the frog itself.

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Oh, absolutely. From the frog's perspective,

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staying completely off the radar for a century

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is the ultimate evolutionary win. Well, on that

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note, I think I'm going to go look at some leaves

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in my backyard and wonder if they're actually

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frogs in disguise. Always a healthy exercise

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to question your reality a bit. This has been

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The Deep Dive. We will catch you next time, assuming

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we can find you. Keep looking.
