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I want you to try and visualize a very specific

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image for a second. Okay, I'm picturing it. Picture

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a piece of heavy, expensive, cream -colored stationery.

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You know, the kind where the ink just sits perfectly

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on the paper. Oh, they're really good stuff.

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Exactly. And at the top, embossed in gold, is

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a name. Princess Patricia Anne, Zoo, Hohenlo,

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Baldenberg, Schilling's first. Wow. I mean, that

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is a name that takes up the entire width of the

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envelope. It really does. It just, uh, it drips

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with old world aristocracy, you hear that, and

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your brain goes straight to Vienna, to centuries

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of lineage, maybe a drafty castle in the Alps

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somewhere. Right. It sounds like someone who's

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just born wearing silk. But the woman who owned

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that stationery, she wasn't born in a castle.

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Not at all. She didn't grow up attending debutante

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balls in Vienna. Yeah. She started her life in

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a chaotic, overcrowded house in Macon, Georgia

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in 1913. A very different world. And back then,

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her name was just Patricia Wilder, or, well,

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to everyone who actually knew her, Honeychelle.

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It is arguably one of the most jarring contrasts

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in 20th century social history. It was wild.

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You have the Honeychelle persona. this dizzy,

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loud southern bell just colliding head on with

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the highest echelons of rigid European royalty.

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And that is exactly what we are unpacking in

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this deep dive. We've pulled a stack of biographical

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records, career archives, and contemporary accounts

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to look at the life of Patricia Wilder. It's

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a fascinating paper trail. It really is. And

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honestly, The mission today isn't just to recount

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a biography. Anyone can just read a timeline.

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We want to figure out the mechanics of this trajectory.

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Right, because on paper this life just does not

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make sense. It really doesn't. How do you go

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from being one of 13 children in the American

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South during a time when social mobility wasn't

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exactly easy? Right, the early 20th century.

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Yeah, to ending your days in Greenwich, Connecticut

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as a European princess with a romantic detour

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involving the King of Egypt in between. I mean,

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it sounds like a screenplay that a studio executive

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would reject for being too unrealistic. Totally.

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But it happened. And if we look closely at the

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sources, it wasn't just a series of lucky accidents.

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It looks much more like a masterclass in personal

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branding, social intelligence, and navigating

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the specific celebrity ecosystem of the 1930s

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and 40s. So let's start at ground zero, the origin

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story. September 8th, 1913. make in Georgia.

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A completely different world from where she ended

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up. And the key detail here, the one that I think

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defines her entire psychological makeup, is the

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household she was born into. Oscar and Laura

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Wilder's house. Yes. She wasn't just from a big

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family. She had 12 brothers and sisters. 13 kids

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in one house. I mean, just pause on that for

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a second. The logistics alone are a nightmare.

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It's a crowd. It's a literal fight for resources.

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And I don't just mean food or clothes, though

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obviously that too. I mean attention. Just to

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be seen. Exactly. In a 13 -child household, silence

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is basically non -existent. And individual visibility

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is incredibly low. You are just one of the pack.

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You're fighting for oxygen in that room. You

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have to develop a strategy just to be noticed

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by your own parents. Precisely. Psychologists

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often talk about birth order and family size,

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and children in that kind of environment often

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develop very loud or very distinct personalities

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as a survival mechanism. It makes sense. You

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have to be the funny one, or the loud one, or

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the chowing one, or you simply disappear into

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the background noise. You become invisible. And

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Patricia Wilder clearly chose charming, but she

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did it with a very, very specific flavor. This

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is where we have to talk about the nickname.

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Honeychelle. Honeychelle. It's iconic. And the

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backstory of the name is actually quite revealing

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about her operating style. Because she didn't

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get it passively. Right. She didn't get the nickname

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because people looked at her and said, oh, aren't

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you a sweet honey child? No, the records say

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it was reciprocal. She got it because she had

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a habit of calling everyone else honey child.

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Which is a brilliant, if perhaps unconscious,

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bit of personal branding. It really is. Think

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about it. She leaves Georgia, heads north to

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New York, and eventually out west. In those environments,

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a thick, syrupy southern accent could actually

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be a liability. Oh, for sure. It could mark you

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as provincial or uneducated to certain high society

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crowds. Especially in the 30s, right? When everyone

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in movies and radio was trying to do that sharp

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clipped transatlantic accent. Exactly. The mid

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-Atlantic voice was the absolute standard for

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sophistication. But instead of trying to hide

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her roots, Wilder just leaned all the way in.

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She owned it. By calling everyone Honey Child,

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she turned her background into a trademark. She

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wasn't just a girl with an accent, she was a

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character. She was Honey Child. It's so disarming,

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too. Yeah. It's hard to be intimidated by or

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dismissive of someone who just called you honey

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child with a big smile. It breaks down barriers

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immediately. Yeah, it creates instant intimacy.

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It's a social lubricant. And that ability to

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disarm people became her primary currency because

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she didn't stay in Macon very long. By the mid

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1930s, she's in New York City. Moving fast. And

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she isn't working a quiet shift at a library

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somewhere. She's at the Palace Theater. The Palace.

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Now, for those who aren't deep into theater history,

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that's not just a theater. That was the venue

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for Vaudeville, right? It was the absolute summit.

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There's a famous saying, you haven't played Vaudeville

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until you've played The Palace. If you were on

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that stage, you had made it. And working there

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as a showgirl put her in the immediate orbit

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of the era's biggest talent. And this is where

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we see the first and arguably most important

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connection of her life. The big break. She starts

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working for Bob Hope. Bob Hope. And this wasn't

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just a quick hello goodbye situation, was it?

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No, and this is crucial for understanding her

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career longevity. This wasn't a one off gig.

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The archives show this established a professional

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relationship, an alliance really that lasted

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her entire career. That's a massive jump. One

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minute, you're fighting for a scoop of potatoes

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with 12 siblings in Georgia. The next, you're

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in the inner circle of one of the fastest -rising

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entertainers in American history. It shows she

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had grit, certainly. But more than that, she

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had... Incredible social intelligence. You don't

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stay in Bob Hope's orbit just by being a quirky

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character. Exactly. You stay there because you're

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reliable, you're funny, and you add actual value

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to the act. Bob Hope needed people who could

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feed him lines, who could react, who understood

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comedic timing. She clearly could hold her own

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on stage. So she conquers New York. Or... at

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least makes a very solid dent in it. Then, naturally,

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the gravity shifts west. It's the 1930s. If you

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want to be famous, you go to Hollywood. The Hollywood

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Hustle. She arrives in town, and again, looking

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at her filmography, she skips the whole extra

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phase where you're just a blur in the background

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of a crowd scene. Right, to do credits. Her first

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credited film role is in 1936. The movie is called

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Speed. and her co -star, which is a guy named

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James Stewart. Jimmy Stewart. Now, granted, 1936

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is early for him too, but he's already clearly

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on the projectory to becoming a legend. Oh, absolutely.

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For her to walk onto a set for her first credited

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gig and be opposite a talent like that, that's

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as the studio saw something in her right away.

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They saw a spark. She was busy that year too.

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She wanted Jane Turner in Walking on Air in 1936

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as well. And Walking on Air is the key one there,

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because who else is in Walking on Air? Bob Hope

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again. Exactly. She brought her network with

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her. The text notes she stayed in close alliance

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with him working on radio shows alongside the

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films. That ecosystem strategy you mentioned?

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Yes. She wasn't out there auditioning alone in

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the wilderness. She was part of the Bob Hope

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package. It's so smart. If he gets work, you

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get work. It's the buddy system. but for Hollywood

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stardom. And Bob Hope was a multimedia giant

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film radio stage. By attaching herself to his

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projects, she ensured constant visibility. Right.

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She might not have been the top billed star on

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the poster. She wasn't the romantic lead usually,

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but she was always in the mix. But she wasn't

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just in Bob Hope movies. I was looking at her

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credits for 1937 and 1938, and the list of co

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-stars is basically a who's who of the era. It

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really is. She's in New Faces of 1937 with Milton

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Berle. She's working with Robert Woolsey. These

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are the absolute kings of comedy. And don't forget,

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the biggest star on the planet at the time. Shirley

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Temple. Right. Patricia Wilder was in Little

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Miss Broadway with Shirley Temple. And my lucky

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star with Buddy Ebsen and Cesar Romero. Just

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paints a picture of someone who was omnipresent

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on the lot. She was everywhere. She was what

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we would call a featured player. In the studio

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system, these were the people who filled out

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the world. The character actors. Exactly. They

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weren't the leads carrying the heavy dramatic

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plot, but they provided the flavor, the comedy,

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the energy. And Patricia Wilder with that honey

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child persona, the voice, the attitude. was perfect

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for that. She was distinct. You remembered her

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when she walked off screen. Her last film was

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Thanks for the Memory in 1938, which, fittingly,

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starred Bob Hope. A very tight loop. Her film

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career is actually incredibly short. Really just

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1936 to 1938. Three years. But packed. But in

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that window, she worked with the absolute heavy

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hitters. So here's the question. She's a working

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actress. She's got this great brand. She's pals

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with Bob Hope. But she stops. She doesn't become

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Bette Davis. She doesn't fight for that Oscar

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-winning role. No, and I think that's because

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her ambition lay elsewhere. Or perhaps she realized

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that the Honey Child Act had a ceiling in Hollywood.

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You can only play the dizzy southern girl so

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many times. But it had no ceiling in high society.

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Thirsty. This is where the story pivots from

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film history to social climbing 101 because her

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romantic resume is honestly more impressive than

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her IMDB page. It is a progression of status

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that is Almost mathematically precise. It's like

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she had a flip chart. Let's look at the latter.

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Rung number one. Husband number one. Robin Curly

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-Harris. Married in 1935. He was a reporter.

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Right. Respectable. Solid. He's a guy who tells

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stories. But in the grand scheme of power and

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influence, he's a civilian. Yeah. This marriage

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ends in divorce, which fits the pattern of a

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starter marriage. Someone from her immediate

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circle when she was just starting out in New

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York. But then, fast forward to 1941. Husband

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number two. Albert Cernados. And his job title

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is significantly better than reporter. He was

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an Argentine millionaire. We have jumped tax

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brackets entirely. We've jumped continents. We've

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jumped social stratospheres. This signals that

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she had successfully moved out of the working

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actress grind and into the international jet

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set crowd. because that meant something very

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specific back then. Oh, definitely. Yeah. You

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have to understand, in the 1940s, Argentine millionaire

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carried a massive weight. It meant old money,

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polo matches, international travel during a time

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when much of the world was literally at war.

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So she's not waiting for a callback anymore.

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She's secured wealth. She's secured access. But

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that marriage also ends. And then we get to the

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1940s and the plot twist that I frankly didn't

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see coming when I first opened the file. She

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wasn't just dating millionaires anymore. She

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entered a relationship with King Farouk of Egypt.

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King Farouk. I mean, this is a man who is a massive

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historical figure. A massive figure and a very

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notorious one. Farouk was the last king of Egypt.

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He was known for this incredibly lavish, excessive

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lifestyle. Just opulent. Very. He was a gambler,

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a gourmand. He had enormous appetites. He was

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a larger -than -life controversial monarch who

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was constantly in the headlines. And here's Honey

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Chilly Wilder. the girl from the crowded house

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in Georgia, hanging out in the palaces of Egypt

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with the king. It feels like a fever dream. It's

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totally surreal. But what I love most about this

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chapter is her reflection on it. Because usually

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when people talk about Farouk, they talk about

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his corruption or his wealth or his endless collection

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of cards. Right. But she gave an interview about

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him, and she didn't mention the jewels or the

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cars. No. She said that of all her lovers, King

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Farouk had the best sense of humor and made her

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laugh the most. I find that so fascinating. It

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humanizes him completely. It does. It strips

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away the crown and the politics, but it also

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tells us something very important about Patricia

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Wilder. What's that? She valued humor. Remember,

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she came up with Bob Hope. She worked with Milton

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Berle. She spoke the language of comedy that

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was her native tongue. Right. The fact that she

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connected with the king on the basis of humor

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suggests she wasn't just there as arm candy.

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She was actively engaging with him. She could

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hold her own. If you can banter with Bob Hope

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on live radio, you can probably handle the wit

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of a king. Exactly. It suggests real agency.

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She wasn't just a passive beauty being collected

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by these powerful men. She was a participant.

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She was fun. And that's rare in those circles.

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Absolutely. For men who are surrounded by sycophants

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like a king, someone who can actually make you

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laugh, who might be a little irreverent, is incredibly

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rare and valuable. But even the king wasn't the

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final destination. The ultimate rung on the ladder

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was still ahead. May 21st. 1951, Greenwich, Connecticut.

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Husband number three. And this is the one that

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changed the stationery we talked about at the

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very beginning. Prince Alexander's Zoo, Hohenlohe,

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Waldenburg, Schilling's first. I'm so glad you

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had to say that, not me. It is quite a mouthful,

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but the pedigree is very real. He was the son

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of an Austrian diplomat, Prince Alfred, and an

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American mother, Catherine Britton of Washington,

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D .C. So officially, Patricia Wilder becomes

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a princess. Princess Patricia. It is the ultimate

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transformation. from Honeychell the showgirl

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to a bona fide European princess living in Greenwich.

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And unlike the reporter and the millionaire,

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this one's stuck. Yes. The records show they

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remain married until the prince's death in 1984.

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That's over 30 years. That's a lifetime, especially

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in that world. where marriages could literally

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last a weekend. It really suggests that she finally

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found where she fit. She had navigated the reporter,

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the millionaire, the king, and settled with the

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prince. She found her level. When you them out

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and look at the full arc, born 1913, died August

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11th, 1995 in New York City. She lived to be

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81. A full life. The geography of that life is

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just breathtaking. Macon, the Palace Theater.

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Hollywood sound stages, Egyptian palaces, Greenwich

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estates. And finally, passing away in New York

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City as an Austrian princess. It really highlights

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something about the mid -20th century that we

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often overlook. What's that? Well, we tend to

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think of class structures back then as very rigid.

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You know, you were born into your station and

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you stayed there. But for entertainers... There

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was a trap door. Exactly. Entertainment was one

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of the few vehicles for rapid social mobility.

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If you had charisma, talent, or just that ineffable

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star quality, you could bypass the traditional

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gatekeepers. You could skip the line. Yes. You

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could enter rooms that were previously totally

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closed to someone of your background. But you

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had to be smart about it. A lot of people entered

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those rooms and just got chewed up. That's the

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key. You had to be a strategist. And looking

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at Patricia Wilder's life, I see a brilliant

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social strategist. She leveraged everything she

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had. She leveraged the Honey Child Web personality.

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It made her memorable but non -threatening. She

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leveraged humor. She knew that making powerful

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men laugh, whether it was Bob Hope or King Farouk,

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was a currency more valuable than just being

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pretty. Pretty is common in Hollywood. Funny

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and charming is rare. And she leveraged connections.

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She didn't burn bridges. That alliance with Bob

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Hope... kept her working for years. It's a literal

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master class in networking. She didn't have the

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film career of a Katharine Hepburn. She didn't

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win Oscars. But she ended up with a title that

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even Hollywood royalty couldn't buy. It makes

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you wonder about the definition of success in

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that town. We focus on the stars whose names

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are on the sidewalk. But maybe the real winners

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were the ones who used the system to build a

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completely different kind of life. I think that's

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the ultimate takeaway here. History is often

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made by the people standing right next to the

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icons. Little true. We focus so much on Bob Hope

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or King Farouk, but there was this woman, this

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vivid, funny, ambitious woman who is right there

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in the mix, influencing the mood, shaping the

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social scene. And proving that you can start

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with nothing, just one face in a crowd of 13

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kids in Georgia and end up wearing a tiara. It

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challenges our assumptions about agency. Was

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she just lucky? I really don't think so. You

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don't marry a prince by accident. You don't befriend

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Bob Hope by accident. That brings me to the thought

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I want to leave you, our listener, with today.

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Yeah. We've talked a lot about her nickname,

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Honeychell. It sounds dizzy, right? It sounds

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like the dumb blonde stereotype of the era, just

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with a southern accent. The dizzy southern belle.

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It's a total cliche. Exactly. But looking at

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this incredibly rich, well -traveled life, I

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want you to consider this. Was that honey child

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persona actually a calculated shield? Oh, that's

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interesting. Was playing the dizzy, charming

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southern girl, the very armor that allowed a

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brilliant social strategist to navigate rooms

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full of wolves, Hollywood producers, kings, millionaires,

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and come out on top every single time. It's the

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ultimate camouflage. If they underestimate you,

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they never see you coming. And nobody saw Patricia

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Wilder coming until she was already a princess.

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Indeed. That's all for this deep dive into the

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life of the one and only Honey Challenge. Thanks

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for exploring this incredible life with us. Until

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next time, keep looking at the people standing

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next to the spotlight. See you then.
