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Welcome back to The Deep Dive. Today, we are

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pulling apart a moment in Hollywood history that

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feels, honestly, it feels almost like a magic

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trick. That is probably the best way to describe

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it, yeah. Because if you look at it one way,

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it's just a classic 1930s action movie. You know,

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loud, fast, incredibly violent, lots of machine

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guns rattling. Right. But if you shift your perspective

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just a little bit, you realize you are looking

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at perhaps the single most successful high -stakes

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PR stunt of the 20th century. It really is. It's

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a rebranding exercise so effective that people

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are still buying into it nearly 100 years later.

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I mean, it is the exact moment Hollywood decided

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to stop fighting the government and, well, start

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marketing it. We are talking about the 1935 film

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G -Men. And to really understand the weight of

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this deep dive, you have to conjure up an image

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of James Cagney. Oh, absolutely. Cagney is the

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whole key to this. Right, because before this

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movie, Cagney was essentially the face of the

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American criminal. He was the guy who, you know,

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he smashed a grapefruit into a woman's face and

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the public enemy. Which was shocking at the time.

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Totally shocking. He made being bad look dangerous,

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exciting, and frankly, incredibly cool. That's

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the core issue they were dealing with. He had

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this electric energy on screen. And then, almost

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overnight, Warner Brothers decides to take that

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specific energy, the sneer, the aggression, the

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street smarts, and just put a federal badge on

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it. G -Men isn't just a movie where Cagney happens

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to play a cop. It's a movie where Hollywood tries

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to save its own skin by turning their absolute

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biggest villain into the ultimate federal agent.

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So our mission today is to walk through exactly

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how this pivot happened. We're going to look

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at the plot, the production context, and the

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massive reception of G -Men to understand how

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Warner Brothers managed to flip the script on

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the gangster film genre. And do it without actually

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changing the formula that made them rich in the

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first place. Exactly. And just so you know, we

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are basing our deep dive today on the Wikipedia

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article for the film G -Men, which covers all

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the production notes, the historical context,

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and the plot summaries. It's a really fascinating

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source to dig into. Let's start with the why.

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Because studios don't usually mess with a winning

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formula unless they are absolutely forced to.

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And the gangster formula in their early 30s was

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definitely winning. Oh, it was printing money.

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But you really have to contextualize the year.

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We're in the early 1930s. The Great Depression

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is in full swing. Things are bleak. Incredibly

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bleak. Yeah. The national mood is at rock bottom.

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Unemployment is sky high. And into that void,

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Warner Brothers is releasing these gritty, hard

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-hitting films like Little Caesar, the original

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Scarface, and the big one, The Public Enemy.

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Which brings us back to Cagney. Right. In The

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Public Enemy, he plays Tom Powers. He's a street

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tough who rises to the top. Now, here is the

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nuance that political and business leaders at

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the time were screaming about. In these movies,

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the bad guy almost always died at the end. So

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the moral of the story was technically there,

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crime doesn't pay. Technically, yes. The crime

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doesn't pay moral was tacked on. But for the

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first 89 minutes? The guy is living the dream.

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Exactly. For the entire runtime leading up to

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that death, the gangster is living like a king.

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He has the best suits, the fastest cars, the

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prettiest girls, total Freedom. Which is quite

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the contrast. It's a massive contrast. If you

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are a guy standing in a bread line, unable to

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feed your family because the system has failed

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you, looking up at the silver screen and seeing

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a guy who just takes what he wants. That is incredibly

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seductive. So the criticism wasn't just that

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the movies were violent. It was that they were

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making the depression -era audience root for

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the wrong side. Precisely. You had political

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leaders, religious groups, and business leaders

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basically attacking Hollywood. They claimed the

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studios were actively glorifying criminals. But

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there was a second part to this complaint in

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the source material, which I think is even more

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interesting. It wasn't just that the criminals

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looked cool. It was that the government looked

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pathetic. Right. The police were depicted as

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totally impotent. The critics actually describe

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the cinematic police forces as derelict and largely

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absentee fathers. That's a great quote. And it's

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true. They were either too slow, too dumb or

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too corrupt to stop the bad guys. So Warner Brothers

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is painted into a corner. They were being told

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by very powerful people to stop making the movies

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that keep the lights on. But they can't just

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start making, you know, romantic comedies. They

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have James Cagney under contract. He's not going

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to do a tap dance routine. Well, actually, he

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was a great dancer, but that's not what the audience

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wanted from him. No, they wanted the tough guy.

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They wanted the guy with the gun. So the studio

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executives, and we really have to give credit

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to the sheer strategic brilliance here, decide

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to execute a massive bait and switch. They said,

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OK. We will stop glorifying the criminal protagonist.

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Instead, we will glorify the heroic federal police

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officer. They kept the violence. They kept the

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speed. They kept the big star. They just changed

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who he was shooting at. That is G -Men in a nutshell.

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It was the studio's direct answer to the critics.

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And the way they constructed the narrative to

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bridge that gap is what's so fascinating. Because

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they didn't just make Cagney a squeaky clean

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do -gooder from the very first frame. That would

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have been too jarring. The audience wouldn't

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have bought it at all. Right. So let's get into

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the character of James Davis. They call him Brick.

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When we meet Brick Davis, he isn't a cop. He

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isn't a criminal either. He's a lawyer. He is.

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But he's a very specific type of lawyer. He has

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absolutely no clients. Which is usually a pretty

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bad sign for a lawyer. In real life, yes. Yeah.

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But in the logic of the movie, it's a sign of

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virtue. He refuses to compromise his ideals.

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He won't defend guilty people. He won't play

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the dirty games of the legal system. He's just

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sitting in his office with nothing to do because

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he has too much integrity. However, and this

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is the hook that really drags the audience in

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there, is a shadow over him. We find out pretty

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early on that his education, his law degree,

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literally everything he has, was paid for by

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a man named McKay. Mack McKay. who just happens

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to be a very powerful, very wealthy mob boss.

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This dynamic is so interesting to me. You have

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the ultimate lawman to be, and his primary father

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figure is a major criminal. It creates this immediate

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moral gray area. It's not just black and white.

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It's the engine of the whole first act. And McKay

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isn't portrayed as a monster either. He's a benevolent

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mentor. He saw potential in Davis and wanted

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him to have a life away from the streets. He

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essentially groomed Davis to be better than him.

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He wanted him on the right side of the law. Exactly.

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So Davis is trying to live up to that. He's trying

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to be a legitimate, clean lawyer. But then his

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friend enters the picture, Eddie Buchanan. Right.

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Eddie is played by Regis Toomey, and Eddie is

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the recruiter. He's already a federal agent,

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a G -man. He comes to Davis and says, look, you're

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starving as a lawyer. Come join the Department

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of Justice. We need guys like you. And Davis

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says no. Flat out rejects him. He does. He has

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zero interest in being a cop. Yeah. And this

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is crucial for the audience's identification

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with Cagney. If he had just wanted to be a cop

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from scene one, he would have seemed like a square.

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By rejecting it initially, he maintains that

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independence, that edge. Until the catalyst rips.

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Right. The classic tragedy. Eddie Buchanan, the

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well -meaning friend, tries to arrest a gangster

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and is killed. And that is the exact moment the

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switch flips for Davis. It's not about abstract

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justice anymore. It's not about upholding the

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law for the sake of the law. It's about revenge.

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Exactly. Davis joins the Department of Justice

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not to serve the country, but to catch the specific

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man who killed his friend. It grounds the motivation

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in something very primal, which fits Cagney's

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acting style perfectly. But this decision forces

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a really heartbreaking scene. He has to go tell

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McKay, his mobster patron, that he is joining

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the federal government. He's joining the other

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side. Right. And the source material mentions

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a woman in the scene too, Jean Morgan. Yes, played

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by Anne Dvorak. She's the star of McKay's nightclub,

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and it's very clear she has deep feelings for

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Davis. So Davis is walking away from his father

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figure and a potential love interest. He's severing

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his ties with the criminal world to enter the

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legal world. But the movie makes it clear the

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personal connection is still there. He loves

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these people even if he hates what they represent.

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It's a great conflict. So he packs his bags and

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heads to Washington DC for training. In this

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part of the movie... Honestly, if you've seen

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any cop movie from the last 40 years, this sequence

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will feel incredibly familiar. It totally set

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the template. You have the whole boot camp sequence.

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And you have the hardened instructor who rides

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him relentlessly. Jeff McCord, played by Robert

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Armstrong. The dynamic is just instant fiction.

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McCord looks at Davis and sees a soft lawyer.

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He sees a city boy who had his tuition paid for

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by a mobster. He doesn't think Davis has the

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grit to be a federal agent. So he mocks him?

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He rides him? He tries to get him to quit. But

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Davis takes it, which is interesting for a Cagney

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character. Usually he'd just punch the guy in

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the nose and walk out. He swallows his pride,

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partly because he is so determined to get his

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friends killer, but also because in true Hollywood

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fashion, he meets McCord's sister. Of course

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he does. Kay, played by Margaret Lindsay. Right.

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So now the stakes are tripled. He wants the job

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for revenge. He wants the girl for romance. But

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the girl's brother is the one man standing in

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his way. It creates this intense pressure cooker

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environment during all the training scenes. Now

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while they are doing calisthenics and learning

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to dust for fingerprints, there is a historical

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detail in the plot that I found genuinely shocking.

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I had to double check the context on this. At

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the beginning of G -Men, these federal agents,

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they aren't allowed to carry guns. It sounds

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completely insane to a modern audience considering

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how we view the FBI today, but that is historically

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accurate. The movie makes a huge plot point out

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of this. When G -Men starts, the agents are basically

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just investigators. They are accountants and

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lawyers. Exactly. If they wanted to arrest a

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violent criminal, they had to get a warrant,

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go to the local police, and ask the local cops

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to make the arrest for them. Which perfectly

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explains why the critics were calling them impotent.

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You're chasing guys with Tommy guns and you have

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to ask a local sheriff for permission to stop

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them? It was a massive handicap. And the film

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dramatizes this brilliantly. It shows the agents

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being humiliated, outgunned, and just unable

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to do their jobs. It builds this incredible frustration

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in the audience. You're watching and thinking,

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give these guys a break. Give them some firepower.

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And the movie ramps up the threat to justify

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exactly that. We find out that McKay, the good

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mobster, if we can call him that, retires. He

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buys a lodge in Wisconsin to get out of the game.

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But without him in charge, his old gang goes

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completely off the rails. They're entirely off

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the leash. No code, no restraint, just pure violence.

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And the G -Men are powerless to stop it because

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of these restrictive laws. So we get a scene

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where the head of the G -Men is literally...

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pleading with the government for new legislation.

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And in the movie universe, Congress moves remarkably

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fast. Very fast. The laws are enacted with great

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speed. And suddenly, the dynamic shifts. The

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agents are armed. They have federal power. They

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don't need local cops anymore. It marks the transition

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from that weak, absentee father figure the critics

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hated to the powerhouse FBI image we know today.

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It's almost like a superhero origin story. They

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finally get their powers. It really is. So now

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Davis is armed, he has his badge, and he is on

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the hunt. He identifies one of the bad guys,

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a perpetrator named Danny Leggett. And I really

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love the detective work here. It's not high -tech

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surveillance, it's a character quirk. The gardenia.

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Yes. Leggett has the superstition. He always

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wears a Gardini flower. It's a great visual shorthand.

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It allows Davis to track him down through florists

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and sightings. It shows the audience that these

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guys are smart detectives, not just thugs with

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badges. They actually use their brains. But eventually,

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they do use the guns. The investigation leads

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them to Wisconsin, to that exact lodge McKay

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bought. And this is where all the plot threads,

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the personal, the professional, the revenge,

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just smash together. The gang is hiding out at

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McKay's lodge. And it's important to note, they

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are there against McKay's will. He's retired.

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He doesn't want them there. But they've taken

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over his place. Davis and the G -Men surround

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the lodge and we get the big shootout. This is

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the climax of the second act. And it ends in

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a tragedy that I think gives the movie its real

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moral weight. It does. In the chaos of the raid,

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the villains use McKay as a human shield. And

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Davis, in the heat of the battle, he shoots and

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he hits McKay. He kills the man who paid for

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his law school. The man who is practically a

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father to him. It is devastating. Davis is absolutely

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distraught, but the movie needs to absolve him

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so we get a deathbed scene. McKay, as he's dying,

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forgives Davis. He tells him it's OK. That feels

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like a very symbolic moment. The old way the

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benevolent criminal has to die for the new way

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the federal agent to fully emerge. That's a really

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great reading of it. He clears the board. Davis

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is no longer beholden to the criminal world in

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any way, but the guilt is heavy. He actually

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tries to quit the force right there. He's done.

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He feels he can't take it. But then we get the

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turn from McCord, the instructor who hated him.

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This is the big bonding moment. McCord steps

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up. He tells Davis it wasn't his fault. He talks

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him out of quitting. They move from being enemies

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to being brothers in arms. The shared tragedy

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solidifies their partnership. Which they're going

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to need because one bad guy got away from the

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lodge. Collins. And Collins is the worst of the

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bunch. He is the purely evil antagonist. And

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now that his crew has decimated, he makes it

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intensely personal. He goes after the women in

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Davis's life. First, he goes to the nightclub.

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Right. He finds Jean, the singer who was in love

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with Davis, and he shoots her. Then he goes for

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Kay, the love interest, and kidnaps her. Meanwhile,

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Davis is actually in the hospital. He took a

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bullet earlier in the action, and specifically,

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he took a bullet that was meant from a cord.

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Which cements the bromance even further. He saved

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his former enemy's life. Exactly. So he's lying

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in a hospital bed, wounded, bandaged up. But

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then the news comes in that Kay has been taken.

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I love the cinematic trope, the ripping out the

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IVs scene. It's classic. He doesn't care what

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the doctors say. He bolts. He runs out of the

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hospital bandage and all. He actually manages

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to have a final scene with the dying gene, which

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gives us closure on that relationship before

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heading to the garage where Collins is hiding.

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It's the final showdown. Davis rescues Kay from

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the garage. Collins is trying to get away in

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a car. And who takes the final shot? It isn't

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Davis. It's McCord. The instructor shoots the

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villain as he tries to drive off. It brings the

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whole narrative arc full circle. The rookie and

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the veteran, the lawyer and the cop working together

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to end the threat. And we get the neat Hollywood

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wrap -up. The bad guys are dead, the girl is

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safe, and Kay is driving the wounded Davis back

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to the hospital. And she drops that great line.

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I'll handle your case personally. Very smooth.

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So the credits roll, the lights come up, and

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Warner Brothers holds its breath. Did the gamble

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work? Did the audience buy James Cagney as a

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federal cop? The numbers speak for themselves.

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GMN wasn't just a hit. It was a phenomenon. It

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was one of the top grossing films of 1935. It

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brought in nearly two million dollars globally.

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Two million dollars in 1935. That's hard to even

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calculate in today's money. But for a budget

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of what was it? The budget was around three hundred

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and seven thousand dollars. So the return on

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investment was massive. Warner Brothers proved

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their point. They satisfied the audiences who

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wanted action and violence, but they also completely

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satisfied the censors and the politicians who

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wanted law and order. They essentially legitimized

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the action movie. They wrapped the violence in

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the flag. And by doing that, they secured the

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genre's future. Now, we mentioned the PR stun

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aspect at the very beginning of the deep dive,

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but there is a detail in the reception history

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from the source that takes this to a whole new

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level. It involves the FBI itself. This is where

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the line between Hollywood and history gets really

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blurry. So the movie comes out in 1935. It's

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a huge hit. Fast forward to 1949. The FBI is

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celebrating its 25th anniversary. To mark the

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occasion, G -Men is re -released in theaters.

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OK, a re -release. That's standard practice.

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But it's not just a re -release. They altered

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the film. They added a prologue. They filmed

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a brand new scene depicting a senior FBI agent

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showing the movie G -Men. to a group of recruits.

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Wait, so they framed the Hollywood movie as a

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literal training video? Essentially, yes. The

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framing was sit down rookies, watch this film

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to learn the history of how our bureau was formed.

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The PR stunt became official lore. The FBI embraced

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the myth making completely. That is wild. It

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shows how much the Bureau valued this specific

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portrayal. They didn't say, oh, that's just a

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movie. They said, that's our story. It definitely

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helped that the screenplay had some heavy hitters

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behind it. It was partially written by Daryl

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F. Zanuck. though he went uncredited. And it

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was based on a story called Public Enemy Number

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One. It was crafted from the ground up to be

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this mythic narrative. We should also give a

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quick nod to the supporting cast, because it

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wasn't just Cagney doing all the heavy lifting.

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Oh, absolutely. We mentioned Regis Toomey as

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the doomed friend Eddie, but we also have Lloyd

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Nolan making his film debut here. The casting

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was top -notch. It gave the film a gravitas that

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elevated it far above a cheap B -movie. And clearly

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the quality held up over time. Because I saw

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in the notes that in 2008 the American Film Institute

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gave it a nod. They nominated G -Men for their

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top 10 gangster films list. Which is deeply ironic

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if you think about it. Because it was explicitly

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made to counter the gangster film. Exactly. It

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was the anti -gangster movie. But it used the

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language of those films, the slang, the pacing,

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the violence, so effectively that history has

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essentially grouped it in with the very movies

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it was trying to destroy. So when we look back

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at G -Men, what is the big takeaway here? We

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have a studio under immense pressure, a star

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known for playing criminals, and a government

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agency that desperately needed a win. It's a

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master class in adaptation. Warner Brothers realized

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they couldn't fight the tide of public opinion,

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so they surfed it. They proved that you didn't

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have to stop showing violence to appease the

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moral guardians. You just had to make sure the

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violence was being committed by the right people.

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It's all about the target. It is. And in doing

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so, they likely did more for the public image

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of the FBI than any actual news report, press

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release, or recruitment drive ever could. They

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made the G -Man cool. Which brings us to the

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end of our deep dive. But before we let you go,

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here is something I want you to mull over. This

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movie ends with the good guys winning, but only

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after the laws are changed to give them more

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power, more weapons, and less oversight. Right.

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The handcuffs are taking off the agents. Considering

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G -Men was essentially a blockbuster PR campaign

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for the FBI, it makes you wonder how much of

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our actual perception of government authority,

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what we think they can do, And more importantly,

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what we think they should do was shaped not by

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a civics textbook, but by a movie studio just

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trying to protect its bottom line. It's a powerful

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question. Cinema doesn't just reflect history.

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Sometimes it helps write it. Thanks for listening.

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We'll catch you on the next Deep Dive.
