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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are...

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We're not just scratching the surface here. We

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are excavating an absolute monument. Oh, without

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a doubt. We're talking about a show that didn't

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just capture the cultural zeitgeist. I mean,

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it practically invented a completely new form

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of television chemistry. We are talking, of course,

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about Breaking Bad. Yeah, it's really rare that

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we get to look at a piece of media that is so

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universally acclaimed, yet so deeply complex

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in its morality. It is a crime drama, yes, but

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to call it just a crime drama, feels like a total

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disservice. Right. It's really a tragedy in the

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classical sense. A complete morality play where

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actions have inescapable consequences. Exactly.

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And look, I think we can skip the standard high

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school teacher cooks meth elevator pitch. If

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you are listening to this deep dive, you know

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who Walter White is. You know who Heisenberg

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is. You definitely do. What I really want to

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unpack today, the mission for this deep dive,

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is how a premise that sounds like a bad joke

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or maybe a dark comedy sketch, how that morphed

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into one of the most significant evaluations

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of the human ego in modern history. That is the

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core question. Because honestly, on paper, this

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show should not have worked. No. It shouldn't

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have been made. And frankly, We shouldn't have

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rooted for the protagonist for as long as we

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did. That is the part that always gets me, the

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absolute complicity of the audience. But before

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we get to the psychology of the viewer, I think

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we need to go back to the chemistry of the creation

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itself. Oh, the origin story. Yeah, because I

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was looking through the notes on the origin of

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this series. And it is actually kind of terrifying

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how close this show came to just never existing

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at all. It hangs by a thread. I mean, you have

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Vince Gilligan, who had come off the X -Files,

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and he's in this period of unemployment. And

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The Spark wasn't some grand artistic vision about

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the American dream gone wrong. It was literally

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a joke about desperation. Yeah, he's talking

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to Thomas Schnauss, another writer, and they're

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just complaining about the industry, joking about

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their unemployment. Yeah, they're joking that

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the only way to actually make money is to buy

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an RV and put a meth lab in the back. Which is

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the classic, you know, I'm broke, maybe I should

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turn to crime joke that basically everyone has

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made at a bar at some point. Totally. But Gilligan

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actually wrote it down. And that little seed.

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grew into something very specific. He had this

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goal that was actually quite revolutionary for

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television at the time. The Mr. Chips to Scarface

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thing. Exactly. He called it the Mr. Chips to

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Scarface transformation. We hear that phrase

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a lot now, Mr. Chips to Scarface. But I think

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we really take for granted how incredibly risky

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that was in, what, 2005 or 2006. It was completely

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unheard of. If you look at the history of television,

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the entire medium was built on what we call self

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-imposed stasis. Self -imposed. stasis. Right.

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Think about Gunsmoke or MH or Law and Order.

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You want to be able to tune in whenever. Exactly.

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Even the Sopranos, to a degree. You need the

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main character to be completely recognizable

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in Season 10 as the exact same person they were

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in the pilot. Because that's how syndication

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works? That's how you sell ads. You definitely

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don't want the sheriff to suddenly become the

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villain halfway through the run. Because if the

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sheriff becomes the villain, you break the engine

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of the show. You just can't solve the crime of

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the week if the detective is the one committing

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them. Precisely. But Gilligan wanted to design

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a show that was finite. A show where the entire

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point was the metamorphosis. Reactive change?

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Yes. He wanted to document the chemical reaction

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of a man's soul -changing states. He wasn't interested

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in maintaining the status quo at all. He wanted

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to destroy it. So he takes this radical idea,

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he writes the pilot, and then he just gets rejected

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by basically everyone. Everyone. And this is

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a really fascinating look at the industry lanes

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back then. Showtime passed. HBO passed. TNT passed.

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The Showtime rejection is the one that really

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fascinates me, actually, because they had weeds

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at the time. That was exactly their reasoning.

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They said, we already have a show about a suburban

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parent selling drugs to support their family.

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Which, okay, on the surface is technically true,

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but tonally. I mean, Weeds is a satire, it's

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a dark comedy. Breaking Bad is, I don't even

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know what you call it initially, it's incredibly

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grim. It's an existential Western, but networks

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are incredibly risk -averse. Yeah. They saw the

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drug -dealing parent box was checked, so they

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just moved on. And then there's FX, because they

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actually bought the script, right? They started

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discussions, yeah. It really looked like it was

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gonna happen in FX. But then... The executives

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had to make a choice between Breaking Bad and

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a show called Dirt. Dirt. Starring Courtney Cox.

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I vaguely remember that. It was about tabloids,

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right? It was. And they chose Dirt. It just goes

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to show you that quality isn't always the deciding

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factor in Hollywood. Sometimes it's star power.

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Or just what the network thinks is hot at that

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exact moment. So Breaking Bad ends up at AMC

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almost by default. Pretty much. AMC was known

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for classic movies back then, not original programming.

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aside from Mad Men, which was really just starting

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to find its footing. So it lands at AMC. And

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now we have to talk about the setting. Because

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when I close my eyes and think of Breaking Bad,

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I see the desert. Wide open spaces. I see the

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Sandia Mountains. I see that specific yellowish

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filter. But none of that was the original plan.

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No, not at all. The script was actually set in

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Riverside, California. It was supposed to be

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the Inland Empire. Which makes a lot of sense

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for a meth story, honestly. It totally does.

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But Sony, the production studio, came to Gilligan

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and said, look, New Mexico has a 25 % tax rebate.

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We need you to shoot there. Financial incentives

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driving art. Always. But this is where the genius

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comes in. Gilligan didn't try to make Albuquerque

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look like Riverside. He didn't try to frame the

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shots to hide the mountains. He embraced it.

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He realized that if he turned the camera east,

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he had this massive mythic landscape right there.

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It fundamentally changes the genre, doesn't it?

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I mean, if you shoot in Riverside, it's a gritty

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suburban drama. But if you shoot in the New Mexico

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desert with those incredible wide horizons, it

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becomes a Western. Exactly. It becomes a neo

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-Western. The isolation is palpable. In a California

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suburb, you're always watched by neighbors. In

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the desert, you are completely alone with your

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morality. Those wide angle shots that just dwarf

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the RV in the middle of nowhere. That's visual

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rhetoric. It literally says, there is no law

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here. There is only what you decide to do. It's

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absolutely amazing that a budget line item created

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the show's most iconic visual signature. But

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speaking of happy accidents, we really have to

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talk about the writer's strike of 2007 to 2008.

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This is probably the single most important event

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in the show's entire history. narratively speaking

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explain that for the listener because usually

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when we talk about strikes they kill shows they

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don't save them right well season one was supposed

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to be nine episodes the strike cut it short to

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seven Now Gilligan had a major plan for that

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finale of episode 9. He wanted to be ballsy He

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was planning to kill off a major character just

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to stake his claim and show the audience He meant

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business and that character was either Hank Schrader

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or Jesse Pinkman most likely Jesse Okay, let's

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just pause on that for a second. Can you imagine

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the show without Jesse Pinkman? It would be a

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fundamentally different series if Jesse dies

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in season 1 Walt is just He's just a monster

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or maybe a victim seeking revenge, right? Jesse

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provides the heartbeat. He's the one who actually

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suffers. Walt schemes. But Jesse feels everything.

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Without Jesse, you lose the odd couple dynamic.

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You lose the entire father -son proxy war. You

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lose the moral counterweight. But because the

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season was cut short by the strike, they couldn't

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film that death scene. Thank goodness. And during

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the break, Gilligan watched the dailies. He saw

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the incredible chemistry between Bryan Cranston

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and Aaron Paul. It's that lightening in a bottle

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you just can't plan for. He realized that killing

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Jesse would be a colossal mistake. The strike

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forced them to slow down. It forced them to let

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the characters actually breathe rather than rushing

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to a shocking plot twist. It proves that sometimes

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external constraints save writers from their

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own worst impulses. It gave them the time to

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realize what they actually had on their hands.

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So we've got the setting, we've got the lucky

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breaks with the strike. Now let's move into section

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two and talk about the man himself, Walter White.

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Casting Bryan Cranston seems so obvious to us

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now, but at the time, this was a massive gamble.

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A huge gamble. To the executives at AMC, Bryan

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Cranston was just Hal from Malcolm in the Middle.

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He was a goofy, roller skating, frantic sitcom

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dad. I can honestly see why they were hesitant.

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It's hard to see the intense danger in Hal. They

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wanted a movie star. They wanted John Cusack.

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They even wanted Matthew Broderick. I'm sorry,

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but Matthew Broderick is Heisenberg, Ferris Bueller

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saying, say my name. It just does not work in

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my head at all. It would have been a completely

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different energy. But Gilligan had this card

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up his sleeve. He'd worked with Cranston on an

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episode of The X -Files called Drive. I've actually

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seen this episode. Cranston plays a guy who basically

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has to keep driving Wes at high speeds or his

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head will explode. Right, but the character,

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Crump, is a virulent anti -semite. He's nasty,

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he's incredibly mean, but the role required the

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audience to somehow feel bad for him when he

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inevitably dies. Which is a tough tightrope to

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walk. Gilligan realized that Cranston had this

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completely unique ability to be loathsome and

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sympathetic simultaneously. And that right there

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is the secret sauce of Walter White. It is the

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underlying humanity that makes the entire tragedy

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work. If Walt is just a mustache twirling villain

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from day one, we tune out. We need to see the

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desperate father. We need to see the guy who

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just wants to leave something for his kids. Cranston

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brought that warmth, which made the chilling

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moments later on so much worse. And he transformed

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physically for this, too. This wasn't just acting

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from the neck up. No, not at all. He gained 10

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pounds to look a bit softer, a bit doughy. He

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dyed his hair brown to look completely unremarkable.

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He worked with the costume designer to pick these

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drab colors. The greens and the beiges. You want

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to look like part of the wallpaper. And we cannot

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forget the mustache. The dead caterpillar, as

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he called it. It's so pathetic. It really is.

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It practically screams impotence. That was the

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exact point. Walt at the beginning is a man with

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absolutely zero agency. He's overqualified, underpaid,

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scrubbing cars at the car wash to make ends meet,

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and literally being laughed at by his own teenage

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students. The mustache was the physical symbol

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of a man who had completely given up. So you

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have Cranston anchoring the show with this incredible

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nuanced performance. And then you have Aaron

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Paul. as Jesse. Who, as we said, was never supposed

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to be the co -lead. He was just a former student,

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a lost soul. Aaron Paul brought this incredibly

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frantic, nervous energy to the screen. But he

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also brought a really deep vulnerability. Yeah.

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You look at his eyes in those early seasons,

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he's just a kid pretending to be a gangster,

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while Walt is a literal genius pretending to

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be a novice. It's a perfect inversion. It really

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is. Now we have to wade into the Schuyler problem.

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because you simply cannot talk about the legacy

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of Breaking Bad without talking about the intense

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vitriol directed at Skylar White. It is definitely

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one of the most intense audience reactions in

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television history. Anna Gunn, the actress who

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played Skylar, actually wrote an op -ed for the

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New York Times about it. It was called I Have

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a Character Issue. She was getting actual death

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threats. People were creating I Hate Skylar White

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Facebook pages with thousands of members. It

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was incredibly ugly. And we have to unpack why

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that happened impartially. based on the analysis.

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Obviously, there is a layer of sexism there,

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this ingrained idea of the nagging wife standing

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in the way of the male hero's exciting adventure.

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Right. But there is also a structural narrative

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manipulation happening that we have to acknowledge.

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Right, because the show is heavily POV locked

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to Walt. Exactly. Gilligan actually admitted

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this. years later. He said the storytelling was

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rigged. We see Walt's fear. We see his quote

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unquote noble intentions. So when Skylar asks

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a perfectly reasonable question like where were

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you all night or where did this duffel bag of

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cash come from? She isn't framed as a rational

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partner trying to protect her family. She is

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visually and narratively framed as an antagonist.

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She is an obstacle to the fund. It's the buzzkill

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effect. We want Walt to blow things up and outsmart

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the cartel and she wants to pay the bills legally

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and do the laundry. And yet, if you re -watch

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the show now, completely removed from that weekly

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hype cycle of rooting for the bad guy, Skyler

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is often the only rational actor in the room.

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As Anna Gunn noted, she has a backbone of steel.

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She doesn't just collapse. She protects those

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kids with a ferocity that easily rivals Waltz.

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but entirely without the massive ego. It's a

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huge testament to Anna Gunn that she held her

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ground against that massive wave of hate. It

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really makes the performance even more impressive

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in hindsight. Absolutely. She played the reality

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of the situation, not the fantasy the audience

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wanted. I also want to touch on the supporting

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cast, because the texture of this world is so

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incredibly rich. Jam Carlo Esposito as Gus Fring.

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The absolute anti -Tuco. Yes. Tuco was chaotic,

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screaming, constantly snorting meth off a hunting

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knife. Gus was, he was just dead. Dead calm.

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Esposito based that performance on Edward James

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Olmos in Miami Vice. He actually practiced yoga

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to get that intense stillness. He wanted to be

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a man completely hiding in plain sight. It's

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terrifying because you never know what he's thinking.

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He's just so still in the fire. And then there's

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Bob Odenkirk as Saul Goodman. I read that he

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based the voice on Robert Evans. The legendary

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film producer, yes. The kid stays in the picture.

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You can completely hear it in Saul's cadence.

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That rapid fire slick Hollywood schmooze. Odenkirk

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would literally do a Robert Evans impression

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before scenes to find the rhythm. Yeah. It brought

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a comedic relief that the show desperately needed

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as the plots got darker and darker. It's incredible

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that Odenkirk, who was a sketch comedy legend

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for Mr. Show, became the absolute pivot point

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for this entire Albuquerque universe. And we

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definitely should mention R .J. Mideas -Walt

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Jr. He has cerebral palsy in real life. just

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like the character. But a milder form than the

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character. Yes. He actually had to learn to walk

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on crutches and purposefully slur his speech

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more than he naturally does for the role. It

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adds such a crucial layer of authenticity to

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the family dynamic. Walt isn't just providing

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for a generic family, he's providing for a son

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with very specific long -term medical needs,

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which really ramps up his justification for needing

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the money early on. So we have the players. Now

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let's get into the game. The philosophy of it

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all. Section three. You mentioned earlier that

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this is a tragedy. Vince Gilligan has a very

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specific moral worldview that informs all of

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this, doesn't he? He does. He has this fantastic

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quote about his own beliefs. He said, I want

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to believe in heaven, but I need to believe in

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hell. That is heavy. Need to believe in hell.

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It means he deeply believes in consequences.

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He believes that the universe has a moral arc,

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and if you break it, it snaps back on you. Wrongdoers

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must be punished. This isn't a nihilistic show

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where everything is random. It's a show entirely

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about karma. But it's a very specific kind of

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karma. It's not immediate lightning bolts. No,

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it's slow. But it is entirely inevitable. The

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central question the show constantly poses to

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you is about the nature of evil. Is Walt bad

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because of his actions? Is he bad because of

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his motives? Or was the badness always in him

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just waiting for the right catalyst? There's

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the classic comparison to Tony Soprano. Tony

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was born into the mob. He didn't really have

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a choice in a way. Tony Soprano was born in darkness

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and actively refused the light. Walter White

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lived in the light. He was a teacher, a father,

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a law -abiding citizen, and he actively chose

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the darkness. He walked into it with his eyes

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wide open. And I think we can pinpoint the exact

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moment he made that conscious decision. It's

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not the pilot episode. It's the gray matter offer.

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Oh, absolutely. This is the Rosetta Stone of

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Walter White's entire psyche. For listeners who

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might have forgotten the exact details, in season

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one, his old partners, Gretchen and Elliot Schwartz

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from Grey Matter, they offered to pay for his

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cancer treatment. They offer him a job. It is

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a complete golden parachute. It is the solution

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to every single one of his problems. His family

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is provided for. He gets the best medical care.

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He gets his dignity back in the scientific community.

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He says no. He says no. And that is the exact

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moment the show stops being about a desperate

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man doing what he has to do to survive and starts

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being about an incredibly prideful man doing

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what he wants to do. It was never actually about

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the money or the family. It was always about

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the ego. He felt cut out of Grey Matter years

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ago, which was his own fault, by the way, for

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walking away, and he just couldn't stand the

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idea of taking charity from them. He would literally

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rather cook meth and kill people than say thank

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you to his ex -girlfriend. That intense pride

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connects directly to the finale. The confession

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scene with Skylar in the kitchen. I did it for

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me that line gives me chills every single time

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It's the moment the whole eye collapses. He finally

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admits to her I did it for me. I liked it. I

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was good at it. It brilliantly deconstructs that

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provider archetype that toxic masculinity relies

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on so heavily. Duskfring uses that exact archetype

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as a weapon against Walt. Remember when he manipulates

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Walt by telling him a man provides and he does

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it even when he's not appreciated or respected

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or even loved. It sounds so incredibly noble

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when Gus says it. It's seductive. But it's a

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trap. It's a convenient way to justify absolute

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monstrosity. Walt latches on to that because

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it allows him to feel like a martyr and a hero

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while he's literally dissolving bodies in acid.

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But in the end, Walt admits that the provider

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thing was just a cover story he told himself

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to justify his own massive ambition. And that

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ambition leads us inevitably to Ozymandias. The

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absolute collapse. We have to geek out on this

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for a second because it's so good. The season

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five episode title comes from the Percy Bish

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Shelley poem. They even used Cranston reading

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it in the promotional material. Look on my works,

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you mighty and despair. It's a poem about a traveler

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finding a shattered ruined statue of an ancient

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king in the desert, two vast and trunkless legs

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of stone. The inscription basically says, look

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at how powerful I am, but there's absolutely

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nothing around it but endless sand. The empire

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is completely gone. And that is exactly what

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happens to Walt in that specific episode. It

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is a perfect one -to -one mapping. He has his

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literal barrels of money, his works buried in

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the desert, but what actually happens, Hank is

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killed. Jesse is enslaved. His family is completely

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destroyed and terrified of him. He loses everything

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that gave the money meaning in the first place.

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There's that incredible shot of Walt falling

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to the ground in the desert in slow motion. He

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looks so small against the landscape. He is the

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fallen king of kings. It perfectly encapsulates

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the theme of the futility of hubris. You can

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build a massive empire. But time and sand conquer

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absolutely everything. It really elevates the

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show from a pulpy crime story to a true literary

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tragedy. It really does. Now let's pivot from

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the literary themes to the literal mechanics,

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the science and the craft. Section four. This

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is a show about a chemistry teacher. How much

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of the science was actually real? More than usual

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for television, but definitely less than you

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might think. They had a real advisor, Dr. Donna

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Nelson. She's a chemistry professor, and she

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vetted scripts and actually drew the accurate

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chemical structures on the whiteboards. So the

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jargon was right. But what about the blue meth,

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the famous blue sky? This is the single biggest

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scientific liberty they took in the entire run.

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Break it down for us. Why can't it be blue? Because

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pure methamphetamine is a crystal. It should

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be totally clear or white. If it's blue, that

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inherently implies an impurity. So if Walt is

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making the purest product ever recorded 99 .1%,

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it should logically be perfectly clear. Exactly.

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The blue color was purely a creative liberty,

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a marketing gimmick by the writers. They needed

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a very clear visual signifier so the audience

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could instantly recognize Walt's meth versus

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the generic street meth. It's brilliant for television,

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but chemically. It makes absolutely no sense.

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And then there's the manufacturing method itself.

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They actually depict two different methods on

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the show. Which is historically accurate to how

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real -world meth production evolved over time.

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They start with the pseudoephedrine -based method.

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The Nagai red phosphorus and iodine method. Cooking

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down cold medicine. Right. But to scale that

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up, you need hundreds and hundreds of boxes of

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pills. It creates a massive bottleneck for production.

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So they switch to the PDP method. Phenyl 2 -propanone.

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The reductive amination method. The heavy barrel

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with the golden moth on it. Methylamine. Exactly.

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Now here's the actual scientific catch. The P2P

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method is much easier to scale up industrially,

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but it naturally produces what's called erasemic

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mixture. Okay, let's slow down for a second.

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Explain erasemic mixture to us. Sure. Chemistry

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101. Molecules can have a handedness to them,

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like your left and right hands. They're exact

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mirror images of each other, and they're called

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enantiomers. Right. In meth, one version gets

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you high. The mirror image version does basically

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nothing or acts like a mild decongestant. The

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PDP method naturally creates a 50 -50 mix of

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both. So it's only 50 % potent by default. So

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Walt's true genius wasn't just cooking it, it

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was filtering it somehow. That's the scientific

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implication, that he found some revolutionary

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way to isolate the good in antiumer using a highly

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specific reduction method. The show smartly glosses

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over exactly how he does that because, well,

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They understandably don't want to give a literal

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step -by -step tutorial on how to make super

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potent cartel meth. Probably a very responsible

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choice by AMC. But the show Mythbusters actually

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did step in to test some of the more explosive

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scientific claims. They did. They did an entire

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Breaking Bad special. It was fantastic. Let's

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talk about the bathtub scene from season one.

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Jesse tries to dissolve Emilio's body with hydrofluoric

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acid in a ceramic bathtub. It melts the tub,

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melts the wooden floor, and drops the whole gruesome

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mess into the hallway downstairs. It's an incredibly

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memorable visceral scene. but MythBusters completely

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busted it. Hydrofluoric acid is nasty, dangerous

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stuff, but it is impossible for it to eat through

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a ceramic bathtub and a solid wood floor that

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quickly. So it wouldn't happen like that? It'd

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take a very long time, and it wouldn't be anywhere

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near that dramatically destructive to the floorboards.

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Good to know. And what about the Mercury fulminate?

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This is the famous scene where Walt goes to Tuco's

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office, throws a little crystal on the ground,

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and violently blows out all the windows. This

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is not math. Iconic moments. But is it real?

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Bust it again. Mercury fulminate is a real explosive,

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yes. But to get an explosion that completely

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shattered all the windows and blew the heavy

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AC unit out of the wall? He would have needed

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a significantly larger amount than that little

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crystal. And the blast radius. Right. Physics

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is physics. If the shockwave was strong enough

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to blow out the windows, it would have turned

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Walt's internal organs into jelly right where

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he stood. He would have needed to throw it much

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faster, and it would have killed everyone in

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the room. So Walt essentially has superhero durability

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in that scene? A little bit of TV magic to establish

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Heisenberg. Yeah. But, and this makes me very

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happy, they tested the machine gun in the trunk

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from the series finale. The M60 on the automated

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swivel mount. Yes. Mythbusters tested it, and

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it is actually plausible. You really can build

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a remote -controlled turret that sweeps back

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and forth using a garage door opener motor. It

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is mechanically sound. That is extremely satisfying.

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I really wanted that one to be real. Now, moving

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from science to visual language, let's talk about

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the symbolism. Because Vince Gilligan absolutely

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loves his motifs. The pink teddy bear. It falls

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from the sky into Walt's pool in season two.

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It's missing an eye. It's a brilliant harbinger.

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It represents the innocent lives completely destroyed

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by Walt's actions. The plane crash was a direct

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result of Walt letting Jane die. That bear is

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the judgment of God. It's the universe looking

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down and saying, I see the damage you are responsible

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for. And it's in color. Right. The flash -forward

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teasers in season two were entirely in black

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and white, but the bear was bright pink. It's

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a very direct homage to Schindler's List, the

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little girl in the red coat. It forcefully draws

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the viewer's eye to the tragedy and the loss

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of innocence. And then there's the book, Leaves

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of Grass by Walt Whitman. To my other favorite,

00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:23.400
WW. Gale Buititre gives it to him. It's such

00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.380
a small, innocuous prop, but it literally brings

00:24:26.380 --> 00:24:28.640
the whole empire crashing down when Hank finds

00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.200
it in the bathroom. It's incredibly fitting thematically.

00:24:31.369 --> 00:24:34.549
Walt Whitman wrote Song of Myself. He was a poet

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of the mass of ego, in a way. And the specific

00:24:37.569 --> 00:24:39.490
poem featured in the show when I heard The Learned

00:24:39.490 --> 00:24:42.009
Astronomer is entirely about the difference between

00:24:42.009 --> 00:24:44.430
studying the stars on a chart in a classroom

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and actually going outside to look up at them

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in perfect silence. Which perfectly mirrors Walt's

00:24:49.630 --> 00:24:51.910
journey from the theory of the classroom to the

00:24:51.910 --> 00:24:54.789
visceral practice of the meth lab. Exactly. But

00:24:54.789 --> 00:24:57.309
it's the sheer arrogance of keeping that book

00:24:57.309 --> 00:25:00.609
that ultimately kills him. He couldn't burn it.

00:25:00.670 --> 00:25:02.970
He couldn't throw it away. His pride demanded

00:25:02.970 --> 00:25:05.369
he keep the trophy of his own brilliance. Let's

00:25:05.369 --> 00:25:07.150
also look at the colors. We mentioned the clothes

00:25:07.150 --> 00:25:09.250
a bit earlier with Cranston, but the color theory

00:25:09.250 --> 00:25:11.589
applied across this entire show is borderline

00:25:11.589 --> 00:25:14.410
obsessive. Oh, it really is. There's a specific

00:25:14.410 --> 00:25:16.450
color chart Gilligan and the production team

00:25:16.450 --> 00:25:19.289
used. Wardrobe colors represented characters

00:25:19.289 --> 00:25:23.089
exact states of mind. Walt starts in beige, completely

00:25:23.089 --> 00:25:26.509
neutral, bland, basically nonexistent. As he

00:25:26.509 --> 00:25:29.009
gets deeper into the meth trade, he starts wearing

00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:31.960
dark green. representing money and his dark growth.

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And as he fully becomes Heisenberg, he wears

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:37.460
stark black. And Marie Schrader is almost always

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:40.480
in purple. Always. Purple traditionally represents

00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:43.299
royalty. But in this context, it's also deception.

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She's a kleptomaniac. She lives in an incredibly

00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.279
manicured fantasy world. And Skylar. She starts

00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.299
out in a lot of blue. Innocence. Clear sky. But

00:25:53.299 --> 00:25:55.920
as the seasons progress, she moves steadily toward

00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:58.140
darker colors as she gets dragged further into

00:25:58.140 --> 00:26:00.980
the mud with Walt. The wardrobe literally tells

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the story before the characters even open their

00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.980
mouths. We also really need to appreciate the

00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:07.579
cinematography. They shot on 35mm film, right?

00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.799
Yes, which was robust, relatively economic at

00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.599
the time, and brilliantly allowed for 4K transfers

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:17.240
later on. But beyond the format, it's the specific

00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:20.099
visual style. The POV shots. The classic Breaking

00:26:20.099 --> 00:26:22.400
Bad shot. Looking up from the bottom of a plastic

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bucket. looking out from inside a spinning dryer,

00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.559
looking directly through the glass of a coffee

00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:30.680
pot while it's brewing. It's weird. One major

00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.539
critic perfectly called it trans -fixing weirdness.

00:26:34.200 --> 00:26:36.940
It intentionally forces you to look at completely

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:40.519
mundane objects from a brand new, unnatural perspective.

00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:43.420
It makes the world feel slightly alien. which

00:26:43.420 --> 00:26:47.039
is exactly how Walt feels. He is completely alienating

00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.180
himself from normal human life. OK, we've completely

00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:52.119
dissected the show's inner workings. Now let's

00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.480
look at the blast radius. Section five, reception,

00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.380
legacy and real world impact. The footprint of

00:26:58.380 --> 00:27:00.400
this show is just immense. You look at the critical

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.160
rankings from Rolling Stone, Empire, Variety.

00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.660
It's consistently ranked as one of the greatest

00:27:05.660 --> 00:27:08.380
TV shows of all time. usually top three, if not

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:10.400
number one. It actually holds a Guinness World

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:13.440
Record. Yes, the 2013 record for highest rated

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TV series. Season five hold a Metacritic score

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.099
of 99 out of 100. That is statistically absurd.

00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:21.259
That essentially means every single major critic

00:27:21.259 --> 00:27:23.079
agreed it was flawless. And then you have the

00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:25.279
Anthony Hopkins letter. This is genuinely my

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.700
favorite piece of trivia about the show's reception.

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:30.000
Sir Anthony Hopkins actually binge watched the

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.299
entire show in two weeks. Which is very relatable

00:27:32.299 --> 00:27:35.900
for all of us. And he was so moved, he wrote

00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:39.019
an incredible fan letter to Bryan Cranston. He

00:27:39.019 --> 00:27:42.140
literally said, your performance as Walter White

00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:45.690
was the best acting I have seen ever. Imagine

00:27:45.690 --> 00:27:47.930
waking up to that email from Hannibal Lecter

00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:50.450
himself. He compared the show to Shakespeare

00:27:50.450 --> 00:27:53.529
and Greek tragedy. It really validated the series

00:27:53.529 --> 00:27:56.210
as high art in the eyes of the old guard. But

00:27:56.210 --> 00:27:59.369
art influences life and not always in good ways.

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We have to talk about the cultural impact and

00:28:01.630 --> 00:28:04.410
the controversies, the Breaking Bad effect. This

00:28:04.410 --> 00:28:06.509
is the dark side of that massive popularity.

00:28:07.269 --> 00:28:09.269
Law enforcement actually started reporting blue

00:28:09.269 --> 00:28:12.009
meth appearing on real streets. Real drug dealers

00:28:12.009 --> 00:28:14.690
were intentionally dying their meth blue. Yes.

00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.470
They were actively branding it to cash in on

00:28:17.470 --> 00:28:19.589
the show's popularity. It actually made the drug

00:28:19.589 --> 00:28:21.829
significantly more dangerous because buyers thought

00:28:21.829 --> 00:28:25.009
blue meant pure, just like on TV, when in reality

00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:26.890
it just meant some copycat added food coloring

00:28:26.890 --> 00:28:29.269
or harsh industrial chemicals. That is deeply

00:28:29.269 --> 00:28:31.910
disturbing. Life imitating art in the worst possible

00:28:31.910 --> 00:28:34.630
way. And then there were the literal copycats.

00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:36.990
There were actual chemistry professors caught

00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:39.579
running meth labs after the show aired. And then

00:28:39.579 --> 00:28:43.279
there are the slightly lighter but still intense

00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.460
controversies. The Toys R Us saga. Oh, the action

00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:49.599
figures. Right. Toys R Us was selling a Walter

00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.920
White action figure. He came with a little tiny

00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.799
bag of blue crystals and a little plastic duffel

00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.319
bag of cash. And a Florida mom was walking down

00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.059
the aisle and thought, you know, maybe this isn't

00:28:59.059 --> 00:29:01.579
appropriate for a children's toy store. Which.

00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:04.259
To be completely fair, she has a valid point.

00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.380
It's a toy of a ruthless murderer selling narcotics

00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:09.859
next to the Lego sets. She started a petition.

00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:12.619
Toys R' Us quickly pulled them from the shelves.

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:15.960
Bryan Cranston, being the joker he is, tweeted,

00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:19.039
I'm burning my Florida mom action figure in protest.

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.079
But the fans, the fans are intense. We have to

00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:24.220
talk about the pizza throwing. The pizza on the

00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:26.140
roof. Set the scene for us real quick. Season

00:29:26.140 --> 00:29:29.509
three. Walt brings a massive dipping sticks pizza

00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:32.109
to Skylar as a peace offering. She locks him

00:29:32.109 --> 00:29:35.049
out of the house. In a fit of petty rage, he

00:29:35.049 --> 00:29:37.549
throws the pizza. It sails perfectly out of the

00:29:37.549 --> 00:29:39.750
box and lands flat on the garage roof. And that

00:29:39.750 --> 00:29:43.309
was one take, right? One single take. Cranston

00:29:43.309 --> 00:29:44.970
couldn't have done it again if he tried all day.

00:29:45.309 --> 00:29:46.990
But the fans thought it was the most hilarious

00:29:46.990 --> 00:29:48.849
thing ever. So they started traveling to the

00:29:48.849 --> 00:29:52.680
real house in Albuquerque where a real very normal

00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.480
lady lives, and actually throwing large pizzas

00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.299
on her roof. It became a weird pop culture pilgrimage.

00:29:58.660 --> 00:30:00.880
It became an absolute nightmare for the homeowner.

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.940
She had to put up a huge iron fence. Vincent

00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:06.079
Gilligan actually had to go on a podcast and

00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.759
publicly beg people to stop doing it. He said

00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.920
there is nothing cool or funny about throwing

00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:13.819
a pizza on a lady's roof. It really shows how

00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:16.279
the line between fiction and reality blurred

00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:19.019
for people. They just desperately wanted to physically

00:30:19.019 --> 00:30:21.410
participate in the meme. And Albuquerque has

00:30:21.410 --> 00:30:23.589
had a very complicated relationship with the

00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:26.509
show because of that intense fandom. On one hand,

00:30:26.769 --> 00:30:28.930
it brought millions of dollars in tax revenue

00:30:28.930 --> 00:30:32.029
and a thriving film industry to the state. On

00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:34.490
the other hand, it inextricably linked the city

00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:37.029
to meth production in the global consciousness.

00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:38.950
But they did lean into it eventually. They put

00:30:38.950 --> 00:30:41.670
up statues in twenty twenty two. Yes, bronze

00:30:41.670 --> 00:30:43.829
statues of what and Jesse at the Albuquerque

00:30:43.829 --> 00:30:46.430
Convention Center, which naturally caused quite

00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:49.490
a stir. It did. It's important to note the differing

00:30:49.490 --> 00:30:51.940
views here. Some conservative politicians and

00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:55.500
radio hosts strongly criticized the move, arguing

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:57.920
that erecting monuments to fictional drug dealers

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.799
glorifies crime and sends the wrong message to

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:04.440
the community. On the other side, the mayor defended

00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.359
the statues, arguing that it wasn't about glorifying

00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.319
drugs at all, but rather acknowledging the massive

00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.000
positive economic impact the production had on

00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.559
the city, putting Albuquerque on the map for

00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.319
tourism and film. It's very similar to the debate

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.960
people have about the statue of Rocky Balboa

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.400
in Philadelphia, just with significantly more

00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:25.700
moral baggage attached. Exactly. It's a complex

00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:27.940
civic issue. And the universe didn't just end

00:31:27.940 --> 00:31:30.900
with Breaking Bad. It expanded into a massive

00:31:30.900 --> 00:31:34.099
franchise. We got Better Call Saul. Which is

00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:36.319
an absolute miracle of television, and prequels

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.819
are almost always bad. But Better Call Saul might

00:31:38.819 --> 00:31:41.200
be just as good, if not better, depending on

00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:43.079
who you ask in the fandom. It's definitely a

00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.119
different kind of show. It's quieter, more legal

00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.619
drama. but it proved the incredible depth of

00:31:47.619 --> 00:31:49.799
that writing team. And El Camino, the sequel

00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.579
movie, which finally gave us actual closure for

00:31:52.579 --> 00:31:54.779
Jessie's character. Plus the Spanish language

00:31:54.779 --> 00:31:58.859
adaptation, Metastasis. Yes. So as we hit the

00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:01.190
outter and wrap this up. We've looked at the

00:32:01.190 --> 00:32:04.190
production miracles, the phenomenal acting, the

00:32:04.190 --> 00:32:06.569
science, and the massive real -world legacy.

00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:09.430
We've traced the journey of a desperate chemistry

00:32:09.430 --> 00:32:12.650
teacher turning into a tragic figure of absolute

00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:15.509
hubris. A complete transformation. But I want

00:32:15.509 --> 00:32:17.789
to leave the listener with a final provocative

00:32:17.789 --> 00:32:20.630
thought. We talked about the ending we got. Walt

00:32:20.630 --> 00:32:23.730
dies in the lab. He lovingly touches the stainless

00:32:23.730 --> 00:32:26.970
steel equipment. He falls over, the camera cranes

00:32:26.970 --> 00:32:29.789
up, and the song Baby Blue plays. A very clean,

00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:32.230
structurally satisfying ending. But is it too

00:32:32.230 --> 00:32:34.650
satisfying? That is the ultimate debate among

00:32:34.650 --> 00:32:37.109
critics. The writers actually heavily considered

00:32:37.109 --> 00:32:38.990
an alternate ending, a much, much darker one.

00:32:39.150 --> 00:32:41.099
Tell us about that alternate ending. They toyed

00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:43.480
with the idea that Walt would be the only survivor

00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.460
of the entire ordeal, that Skylar would commit

00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:49.099
suicide or be killed, that Walter Jr. would die,

00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.480
that the baby would be lost, and Walt would be

00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.019
left standing in the ashes, completely alive,

00:32:54.259 --> 00:32:57.119
with all of his bloody money. Oh, wow. That sounds

00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.420
unbearable to watch. It would have been a true

00:32:59.420 --> 00:33:01.940
punishing Greek tragedy, the ultimate karmic

00:33:01.940 --> 00:33:04.000
retribution, living forever with the complete

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.759
void he created. Instead, the ending we got lets

00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.299
him tie up loose ends. He gets to save Jesse.

00:33:09.460 --> 00:33:12.339
He gets to violently kill the Nazis. He manages

00:33:12.339 --> 00:33:14.579
to leave the money for his son through Elliot

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:17.480
and Gretchen, and he dies on his own terms in

00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:20.119
the place he loved most, the meth lab. In a weird

00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:23.420
way. Walt won. He achieved his core goals. He

00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:26.119
became a terrifying legend. He felt alive and

00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.200
he died right before the handcuffs clicked. So

00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:29.759
the question I have for you listening right now,

00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:32.819
something to mull over, is did the show let Walter

00:33:32.819 --> 00:33:35.720
White off the hook too easily? Did we, the complicit

00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.599
audience, get the satisfying action movie catharsis

00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.200
we wanted rather than the brutal punishment Walt

00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.720
actually deserved for the pain he caused? I think

00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:46.099
that's exactly the question Gilligan wants us

00:33:46.099 --> 00:33:49.579
all to ask ourselves. Is a good death really

00:33:49.579 --> 00:33:53.119
redemption? Or is it just one final brilliant

00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.039
manipulation by Walter White? Definitely something

00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.200
to think about next time you see a blue crystal

00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.079
or re -watch the pilot. Keep an eye out for that

00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:03.700
pathetic dead caterpillar mustache and really

00:34:03.700 --> 00:34:05.940
watch the color theory unfold. It changes how

00:34:05.940 --> 00:34:08.039
you view the whole series. Well, thanks for going

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.539
deep with us today. It's been an incredible ride

00:34:10.539 --> 00:34:13.059
unpacking this masterpiece. A completely wild

00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:15.500
one. We'll catch you on the next deep dive. Keep

00:34:15.500 --> 00:34:17.659
looking up at the stars, not just the charts.
