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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we're not

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just watching a television episode. We are witnessing

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an excavation. Oh, absolutely. We're strapping

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in to look at the beginning of the end for what

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is arguably the most culturally significant drama

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of the last 20 years. We are talking about Breaking

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Bad. And specifically, we are dissecting the

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season five premiere, the episode titled Live

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Free or Die. It is a massive episode. This is

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the pivot point. It is the moment the show shifts

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its entire gravitational pull, really. We've

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spent four years watching Walter White try to

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survive the chaos of the drug trade, specifically,

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you know, surviving the looming threat of Gus

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Fring. The chicken man. Right, exactly. And now

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we are entering a totally new era. The student

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has killed the master. The king is dead. Long

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live the king. Precisely. And our mission today,

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for you, the listener, is to unpack exactly how

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this single episode sets up the final tragedy

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of the series. We are moving from the Gus Fring

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era straight into a Walter White empire. And

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we have a stack of notes here that are just,

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they're fascinating. We're gonna cover the plot

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mechanics, which include one of the craziest

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heists in the show's history. The magnet. The

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giant magnet, yes. But we also have deep dives

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into... the production drama because, you know,

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this season almost didn't happen the way we know

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it. I saw that in the notes. There were some

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really serious boardroom battles behind the scenes

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regarding the episode count and the budget. We

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will definitely get to that. We also have the

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critical reception from the time, which really

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helps contextualize just how big this was when

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it aired back in 2012. But before we get into

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the magnets and the machine guns and the boardroom

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politics, we really have to start with the title

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itself, Live Free or Die. It's punchy. Yeah.

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It sounds like an action movie tagline. It does,

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but it's actually very specific geography. Yeah.

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Live Free or Die is the official state motto

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of New Hampshire. Oh, right. And that isn't just

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a cool sounding phrase. It thematically frames

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the struggle of this entire final season. It

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is the choice Walt is ultimately left with. And

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the show doesn't wait to hit you with it. It's

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right there in the opening sequence. So let's

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get into it. Section one, the flash forward.

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Because we hit play on the season five premiere

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and we aren't in the meth lab, we aren't at the

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White House in Albuquerque. We are in a Denny's.

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A Denny's. And the atmosphere is all wrong. immediately.

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It feels totally off. It's quiet. It's drab.

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The source material points out the date specifically.

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We see Walt arranging his bacon into the number

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52, which is a huge signal for the audience.

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The show started on his 50th birthday. Seasons

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one through four happened over the course of

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one extremely intense year. Right. So now suddenly

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we are jump cutting another full year into the

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future. Exactly. We are looking at a man who

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has lived another year of this crazy life. But

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look at him. The notes describe him as disheveled.

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He has a full head of hair, which is shocking

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after years of the bald Heisenberg look. Yeah,

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the hair changes everything. He has a thick,

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unkempt beard, giant nerdy glasses. He doesn't

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look like the Heisenberg who just defeated Gus

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Fring. He looks like a man on the run. And he's

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celebrating alone. That is the part that got

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me. No Skyler, no Jesse, no Junior, just a waitress

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and a plate of bacon. That isolation is key.

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And he's using a fake name. The waitress asks

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for his ID for the free birthday meal, and he

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produces a New Hampshire driver's license. There

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is the New Hampshire connection. Right there.

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And later in this sequence, we see a vehicle

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with New Hampshire plates. And right there on

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the metal stamped into the license plate is,

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live free or die. Wow. It implies he has been

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hiding out there. He has escaped Albuquerque.

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He is free in the literal sense. But looking

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at him, coughing, taking pills in the bathroom,

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constantly looking over his shoulder, You have

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to ask yourself, is he really free? He's back

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in town for business, though. He isn't just there

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for the Grand Slime breakfast. He goes out to

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the parking lot and meets a guy. He meets Lawson,

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played by the incredible character actor Jim

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Beaver. I love Jim Beaver. He brings such a gravitas

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to everything he's in. He's great. And this meeting

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is an illegal arms deal. But Walt isn't buying

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a snub -nosed revolver for protection. He isn't

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buying a pistol to put under his pillow. He pops

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the trunk of the car. And inside is an M60 machine

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gun. A literal weapon of war. This is a massive

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escalation in the hardware of the show. The notes

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emphasize this heavily. An M60 isn't for a robbery.

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It isn't for a hit on one guy. It is for a war.

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It is for mowing down an army. It raises so many

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questions for you as the viewer. Who is he fighting?

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Why does he need that much firepower? Is he planning

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to storm a fortress? The analysis in our documents

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points out that this is a classic flash -forward

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narrative device. It foreshadows the final episode,

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Felina, and it creates a burning mystery. We

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just saw Walt win at the end of season four.

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He is the conqueror. He blew up his enemy. Yeah.

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So how do we get from I -1 to this broken, lonely

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man in a Denny's blinding? Buy your machine gun

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to fight a war we don't understand yet. It completely

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changes how you watch the rest of the episode.

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Because no matter how arrogant Walt gets in the

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present timeline, and oh boy does he get arrogant,

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we know this is where he ends up. It hangs over

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the episode like a dark cloud. It's the Sword

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of Damocles. You know the tragedy's coming, you

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just don't know the route yet. The writers are

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showing us the destination to color the journey.

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So let's snap back to the present. The flash

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forward ends, the title card hits, and we are

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back in the immediate aftermath of the season

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four finale. Section two, clean up on aisle four.

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Right. The Gus Fring is dead timeline. Walt returns

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home. And this is where the domestic horror really

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sets in. You would think, logically, the threat

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is gone. Gus is gone. They should be popping

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champagne. Or at least breathing a sigh of relief.

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But Skyler isn't popping anything. No. Skylar

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White is terrified. The notes describe her reaction

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vividly. Walt comes in, maybe expecting a hero's

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welcome or at least relief that they survived,

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but she is paralyzed. There is that scene in

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the bedroom. He tries to talk to her, just a

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normal conversation, and she barely responds.

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She explicitly tells him, I am scared of you.

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Not scared for you, scared of you. That preposition

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shift is everything. It is the thesis statement

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of her character arc for this season. She realizes

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that the monster wasn't Gus Fring. The monster

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is sleeping in her bed. She knows he killed Gus.

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She suspects he's behind the bomb at the nursing

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home. She knows he is capable of mass violence.

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But Walt. Walt is too busy to process her feelings.

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He brushes it off because he has a sudden oh

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god moment. The loose end. The realization hits

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him like a freight train. The super lab. The

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lab. He just burned down with Jessie. Yes. But

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you remember something crucial about Gus Fring.

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Gus was control freak. Gus watched everything.

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The cameras. There were surveillance cameras

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in the lab. And while the lab burned, the footage

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wasn't stored in the lab. It was sent remotely.

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To a laptop. A laptop that was in Gus Fring's

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office. And where is that laptop now? Well, the

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police are swarming everything connected to Gus.

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The notes tell us the laptop has been seized

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as evidence. It's sitting inside the Albuquerque

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Police Department evidence locker. This is a

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disaster. If the police decrypt that hard drive,

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they have high -definition video of Walter White

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and Jesse Pinkman cooking meth for months. It's

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game over. Instant life sentence. Okay. Maybe

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the death penalty, depending on what else they

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find on there. There is no lawyer in the world

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who can talk you out of video evidence of you

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manufacturing schedule -I narcotics. So they

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need to get it back or destroy it? Which brings

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us to section three, the magnet caper. They can't

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do it alone. They need the third leg of the tripod.

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They need Mike. Mike Ermentrop. The clean -up

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guy. The professional. But Mike isn't exactly

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happy to see them. That's an understatement.

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Remember, Mike was shot in Mexico during the

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salute episode. He has been recovering. He drives

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back to New Mexico, hears Gus is dead, and he

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knows exactly who did it. He finds Walt and Jesse

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in the desert, and he puts a gun to Walt's head.

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He is ready to execute Walt right there. In Mike's

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eyes, Walt is a chaotic amateur who just blew

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up the best job they ever had. Mike liked the

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order of Gus's operation. It was safe. It was

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profitable. Wart is entropy. Walt is chaos. You

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are a time bomb. Tick, tick, tick. Exactly. But

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Jesse, Jesse steps in between them, and they

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manage to convince Mike that they have a mutual

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problem. The laptop? If Walt goes down, Mike

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is on that camera too. Mike's guys are on that

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camera. Everyone falls. So they form this uneasy

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alliance. And they start brainstorming. I love

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this scene because it shows the different worldviews.

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Mike, the seasoned criminal, says, we leave.

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We skip town. Mike knows when the heat is too

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hot. He is pragmatic. Live to fight another day,

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disappear, get new identities. But Walt refuses.

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He just won the crown. He is not going to abdicate

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and live in a hole. Walt's ego is driving the

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bus now. He demands a solution that lets him

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stay. And they go back and forth. Walt suggests

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bombing the police station or raiding it like

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a commando. Mike shoots all of these down as

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suicidal. Until Jesse Pinkman, the guy they always

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underestimate, looks at the problem differently.

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Magnet. Magnets. The idea is brilliant in its

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simplicity. Why try to steal the physical object?

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The object doesn't matter. The data matters.

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If you can wipe the hard drive, the laptop is

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just a paperweight. So they go to the jinkyard.

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They meet old Joe. Old Joe is such a great minor

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character. He's this legally savvy junkyard owner

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who knows way too much about Fourth Amendment

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rights and electromagnets. They acquire an industrial

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electromagnet. This isn't a fridge magnet. This

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is used for lifting cars into shredders. It requires

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massive amounts of power. And the plan is audacious.

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They're going to put this thing in a box truck,

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drive it right up against the wall of the police

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evidence locker, which they have located on the

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blueprints, and turn it on. They test it at the

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junkyard first, and the visual of the laptop

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flying across the room and smashing into the

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truck wall. It sells the power of this thing.

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It creates a sense of believable physics, even

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if it is a bit heightened. You see the sheer

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force involved. So they do it. Night time. Outside

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the police station. Mike is driving the getaway

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car. Walt is at the controls. Jesse is in the

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truck. The tension is incredible. They crank

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the dial. And inside the evidence room, we see

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the chaos. It's almost like a poltergeist. The

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metal shelves start bending. Guns fly off the

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racks and stick to the wall. And the laptop.

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We see it in the evidence bag. It slides across

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the shelf and slams into the wall. The hard drive

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is being scrambled. It's working. But Walt gets

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greedy. He cranks it to the max. He pushes it

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too far. The truck tips over onto the wall because

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the magnet is pulling it. The battery short out.

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The noise is deafening. They have to bail? And

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because the truck tipped, they can't drive it

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away. I have to leave the truck behind. They

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pile into the getaway car with Mike and speed

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off just as the cops come running out. It is

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a success, technically. The lap hop is destroyed.

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But this leads to the aftermath conversation,

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which I think is crucial for the character dynamics.

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It is. They are driving away. Adrenaline is pumping.

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Jesse is ecstatic. But Mike, Mike is looking

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in the rearview mirror. Mike says. I don't think

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we're out of the woods. He is thinking about

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the truck. He is thinking about the serial numbers,

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the trail. He knows police work. And Walt turns

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to him. And this is the new Walt. He doesn't

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offer reassurance. He offers arrogance. He says,

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because I said so. He believes he can dictate

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reality. The notes highlight this as hubris.

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He thinks because he beat Gus, he can beat physics,

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he can beat the police, he can beat logic. He

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is high in his own supply of power. He dismisses

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the professional's concern because he feels invincible.

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And that hubris is terrifying because we know

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about the flash forward. We know this confidence

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is a bubble that is gonna burst. But for now,

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the laptop is dead. However, that wasn't the

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only loose end from season four. We have to talk

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about section four, the human loose ends. Ted

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Benicki. The Ted situation. This is dark comedy

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that turns into just straight horror. So refresh

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the listeners. Skyler gave Ted money to pay the

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IRS so her own tax fraud wouldn't be exposed.

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Ted refused to pay the IRS. Skyler sent Saul's

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goons, Huell and Cooby, to convince him. Ted

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tried to run, tripped on a rug, and smashed his

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head. We all thought he was dead or paralyzed.

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The last we saw of him, he was twitching on the

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floor. But Saul Goodman approaches Skyler at

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the car wash and drops the bomb. Ted is alive.

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Skylo has to go to the hospital to see him. And

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the visual reveal of Ted McKee here is it's haunting.

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He's in that halo brace. Bolts screwed directly

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into his skull to keep his neck straight. His

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head is shaved. He looks broken. Physically,

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he is a wreck. And Skyler expects him to be angry.

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She expects him to scream, you did this to me.

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Instead, he cowers. He's utterly terrified of

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her. He promises he won't say a word. I won't

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tell the IRS. I won't tell the police. He thinks

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she is the godfather. It's tragic, really. Skyler

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is just a suburban mom who made bad choices.

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But in Ted's eyes, she is a monster who sends

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hitmen to break necks. And Skyler real... is

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she is trapped in that role now. She doesn't

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correct him. She just says, good. She accepts

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the mask of the villain because it is the only

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thing that keeps them safe. It's a parallel to

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Walt. Walt chooses to be the villain. Skyler

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is forced into it. That is a great distinction.

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Meanwhile, Walt is cleaning up his own loose

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ends with Saul. And we finally get the answer

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to the biggest mystery of the season four finale,

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the Ricin's cigarette. This was the question

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on every fan's mind during the break between

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seasons. Jesse had a cigarette with ricin in

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it, intended for Gus. It went missing. Jesse

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thought he lost it, or that Gus took it. He saw

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Gus poison Brock with it. Which was the catalyst

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for Jesse helping Walt kill Gus. Right. But here,

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in Saul's office, the truth comes out. Saul is

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furious. He reveals that he had Hewlett pickpocket

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the cigarette off Jesse. So Walt ordered it.

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Walt orchestrated the whole thing. He needed

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the cigarette gone so Jesse would panic. He needed

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Jesse to believe Gus was killing kids so that

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Jesse would agree to kill Gus. It's four -day

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chess, but it is incredibly evil. He used a child

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as a pawn. He manipulated his partner's worst

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fears. And even Saul Goodman, who has a very

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flexible moral compass, is disgusted. The notes

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describe Saul trying to fire Walt as a client.

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He pulls out the cigarette, which is in a plastic

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bag, and says, I'm done. I didn't know you were

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going to poison a kid. Saul has a line. Who knew?

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Apparently, poisoning children is the line. But

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you don't fire Walter White. Not anymore. This

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is the scene, the power shift. Saul tries to

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leave. Walt steps into his space. He backs him

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up against the desk. And he delivers the line.

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We're done when I say we're done. Chills every

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time. The notes highlight this as the definitive

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transition. Before this, Walt manipulated people

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by playing the victim or by using logic. Now.

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He uses pure intimidation. He is acting like

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Gus Fring. He owns Saul now. It really cements

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the idea of the Walter White Empire. He is conscripting

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soldiers. Exactly. He is not a partner. He is

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a commander. Now, I want to take a breather from

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the plot for a second and look at section five,

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the production context, because reading these

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notes, it seems like season five was almost a

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disaster before it even started. It was a very

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rocky road. We assume Breaking Bad was always

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this juggernaut. But back in 2011, during the

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negotiations for the season, things got ugly.

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The notes mention AMC wanted to cut costs. AMC

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proposed a shortened fifth season. They wanted

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to wrap up the entire series in six to eight

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episodes. Six to eight episodes? That is insane.

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We just spent all this time talking about one

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episode. Imagine trying to cram the ending of

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the whole show into six hours. It would have

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been a creative disaster, a rushed ending that

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would have ruined the legacy. But Sony Pictures

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Television, who produces the show, played hardball.

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They essentially said, fine, if you won't pay

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for a full season, we will take the show to another

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network. Can you imagine Breaking Bad airing

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on FX or HBO for the final season? It was a real

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possibility. They shopped it around. And that

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threat worked. AMC blinked. In August 2011, they

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agreed to the 16 episode order that we got. Thank

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goodness. But they split it into two parts, airing

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a year apart, which is a compromise. But it gave

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the writers a breathing room. There was also

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that drama with Dish Network, right? Oh, right.

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In July 2012, right when this premiere was dropping,

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Dish Network dropped AMC due to a contract dispute.

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So millions of people couldn't watch the premiere

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on their TVs. It was a crisis. AMC actually streamed

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this episode, Live Free or Die, online for Dish

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customers. They knew they couldn't alienate the

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fan base at this critical moment. That is smart.

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And a little piece of trivia from the notes,

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this episode is short. It is the shortest episode

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of the entire series, about 43 minutes. It feels

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longer because it is so dense but there is no

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fat on it. It moves like a freight train. Vince

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Gilligan wrote it and Michael Slovis directed

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it. They kept it tight. They knew they had a

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lot of ground to cover to set up the new status

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quo. Let's look at Seption 6, Reception. Did

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people realize what they were watching? Oh, absolutely.

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The hype was off the charts. The viewership was

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a record for the show at that time, almost three

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million live viewers. Which for a dark cable

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drama in 2012 is huge. And the critics were on

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board. Brent Cupp from Pace magazine gave it

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a 9 .4. He called it suspenseful and humorous,

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but noted that lingering sense of doom. That

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doom is the secret ingredient. Donna Bowman at

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the A .V. club gave it an A minus. And even looking

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back, The Ringer ranked it as the 23rd best episode

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out of all 62. is a very strong opener. It does

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everything a premiere needs to do. It resolves

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the cliffhanger with the laptop, sets up the

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new threat with the police and Mike, and establishes

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the new character dynamics. And it ends on a

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character beat that is just devastating. The

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hug. We have to talk about the ending. Walt comes

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home. Skyler is there smoking cigarettes in the

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dark, terrified. And Walt approaches her. She

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flinches. And he hugs her. He holds her tight.

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And he whispers. I forgive you. He forgives her

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for giving the money to Ted. Think about the

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psychological warfare in that statement. She

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is scared he might kill her. She wants him out

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of the house. And instead of yelling, instead

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of hitting, he acts like the benevolent saint.

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I forgive you. It negates her feelings. It says,

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we are fine. I am in control. You are the one

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who made a mistake, not me. It traps her. If

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you were screaming, she could scream back. But

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how do you fight forgiveness? It normalizes the

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insanity of their life. Yeah. It's the ultimate

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gaslight. It connects back to the king idea.

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A king grants pardons. Exactly. He's benevolent

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to his subjects as long as they know he is the

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king. So we have gone from the flash forward

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of a broken man... through the adrenaline of

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the magnets to the chilling confidence of the

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final scene. It leaves us with a massive question

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to chew on. What is that question? The episode

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starts with live free or die on a license plate

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for a man who has lost everything. But it ends

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with Walt feeling invincible. The question is,

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does the flash forward prove that winning in

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Walter White's world is actually just the first

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step toward losing? Is every victory just digging

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the hole deeper? He thinks he's building an empire.

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But we know he is building that lonely birthday

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at Denny's. That is the tragedy of season five

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and we are going to be here to break it down

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every single detail in our future discussions.

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This has been the deep dive on Live Free or Die.

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Thanks for listening. We will see you next time.
