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Hello and welcome back to the deep dive. If you're

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joining us today, you are clearly ready to go

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way beyond the surface. You're not just here

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for, you know, the basic summary. Right. You

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are here because you want to understand the actual

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machinery under the hood. So today we are turning

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our attention to a very specific, incredibly

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volatile moment in television history. Extremely

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volatile. Yeah. We are cracking open the archives

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and looking at Breaking Bad, but we aren't just

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doing some general overview. We are zooming in.

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really microscope style on season four, episode

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seven. That's right. The episode is titled Problem

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Dog. And honestly, just that title alone gives

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you a shiver if you know the context. Oh, absolutely.

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It's evocative. It's really heavy. It implies

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something messy, something that just... needs

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to be dealt with. Definitely. Now for the learner

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joining us, let's just set the stage a bit. We

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need to orient ourselves in time because context

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is everything with this show. Right. The timeline

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is crucial here. Exactly. So this episode originally

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aired on August 28th, 2011. It is the 40th overall

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episode of the series. And being 40 episodes

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in, the tension is just, it's suffocating. I

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mean, this is right in the middle of the fourth

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season. Yeah, right in the thick of it. Critics

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and fans often argue that this specific stretch

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of episodes represents the absolute peak of the

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show's slow burn intensity. We are past the initial

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setup of the super lab, but we aren't quite at

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the explosive finale yet. Right, we're in the

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pressure cooker. Exactly. The heat has turned

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up, the lid is rattling, but it hasn't blown

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off just yet. It's that sweet spot of anxiety.

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And we have some really interesting credits here

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that are worth noting before we get into the

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plot itself. This episode was written and directed

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by Peter Gold, which is incredibly significant.

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I mean, Peter Gold isn't just a hired gun director

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stepping in for a week. He is a key creative

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force in this entire universe. He really is.

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He's the writer who introduced Saul Goodman way

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back in season two. He's the guy who later went

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on to co -create Better Call Saul. So when you

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see his name as both writer and director, you

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know you're in for a very specific kind of ride.

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You know it's going to be good. You know it's

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going to be heavily character driven, and you

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know it's going to explore the absurdity and

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really the tragedy of the criminal life. So here's

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our mission for today. We have the source material,

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we've got the plot summaries, the reception notes,

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the production details, and the critical analysis.

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All of it. All of it. And we are going to strip

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this episode down to its bolts. We're going to

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look at the shifting power dynamics, the crushing

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weight of guilt, and frankly, the totally bizarre

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financial logistics of running a meth empire.

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And we really have to talk about that title.

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The metaphor of the problem dog. It is central

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to understanding Jesse Pinkman's psychology in

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this hour. It's the key. It's the key that unlocks

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his entire arc for the season, and maybe even

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for the whole series. And on the other side of

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the spectrum, we have Walter White's ego, which

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I think we can agree is basically becoming its

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own character at this point. Oh, without a doubt.

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It's growing limbs. It's taking up physical space

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in the room. It's volatile. It's dangerous. And

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in this episode, it creates a literal explosion.

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OK, let's untack this. I really want to start

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with what I call the eruption of Walter White

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because this episode starts with a bang. Literally.

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Literally. It does. And what's so fascinating

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is that it stems from something so mundane. Right.

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A domestic dispute. A simple conversation about

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a car return. Yeah. So let's look at the setup.

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Skylar White, Walter's wife, has negotiated the

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return of a Dodge Challenger. Now, for context.

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Remind us about this car, because it's not just

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a car. No, it's a massive symbol. This is the

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car Walter bought for his son, Walter Jr. It's

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a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8. A beast of a car.

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A total beast. It is bright red with black racing

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stripes. It's loud, it's aggressive, and it's

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very expensive. And most importantly, to Skyler

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at least, it absolutely screams drug dealer money.

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Exactly. They are supposed to be living on a

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car wash owner's salary. You cannot explain a

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$40 ,000 muscle car to the IRS when you're supposedly

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just scrubbing tires for a living. Right. So

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Skyler takes charge. She puts on her responsible

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parent hat or maybe her criminal CFO hat. Her

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risk management hat. Yeah, exactly. She tells

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Walt, I handled it. I talked to the dealership.

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You just need to take it back. There's a restocking

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fee, but it's handled. Just drive it there and

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hand over the keys. It's a completely rational

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move by Skyler. She is the pragmatic force in

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this criminal enterprise, essentially. She's

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trying to keep a low profile. Right. She's protecting

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the family from an audit, from suspicion. But

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Walter, Walter perceives this entirely differently.

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He doesn't see it as protection, does he? He

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doesn't see, oh, thank you for saving us from

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federal prison. No. He perceives it as an insult.

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An attack. Yeah, an attack. He sees it as Skyler

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emasculating him. She is taking away his gift

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to his son. She is taking away his ability to

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be the provider, which is the central lie, he

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tells himself. That he does this all for his

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family. Right. If he can't give the boy the car,

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then what is the point of the money? An insult.

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It's a declaration of war in his head. So, describe

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what happens. He gets in the car to return it,

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but he doesn't just drive it back to the lot

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and hand over the keys, does he? No. He doesn't.

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And this is where we see the absolute petulance

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of Walter White. He drives the Challenger to

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a parking lot. He doesn't go to the dealership.

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He goes to a large, empty, concrete lot. It's

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totally isolated. And he just sits there for

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a second. And then he starts doing donuts. Which

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is such a juvenile, aggressive expression of

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power. He's burning rubber, spinning this high

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-performance machine in circles. The tires are

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screeching. There's thick smoke everywhere. It's

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a total tantrum. It's a tantrum. Yeah. It is

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a middle -aged man screaming, I am in control

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by spinning in circles in an empty parking lot.

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Yeah. It's pathetic, but it's also genuinely

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terrifying because of the raw rage behind it.

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It's visually striking, too. The bright red car,

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the thick white smoke, the drab gray concrete,

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but he doesn't just stop at donuts. That would

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be too simple. Right. He crashes it. He loses

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control, or perhaps he gains control by losing

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it intentionally, you could argue, and he strands

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the car on a concrete parking divider. He just

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beaches it. He essentially beaches this incredibly

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expensive muscle car. The front fascia is smashed

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up. The chassis is stuck on the concrete. The

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rear wheels are just spinning in the air. It

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is completely stuck. And here's the part that

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is just pure chaos. He gets out of the car. He's

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panting. He's furious. He takes the ownership

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papers, the literal title, to the car. Yeah.

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And what does he do? He stuffs them into the

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gas tank. He literally shoves the paperwork into

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the fuel net. He stuffs the papers into the gas

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tank. He lights a match. He throws it in. And

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he just walks away. Boom. Just like that. A massive

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fireball in the middle of Albuquerque. And he

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doesn't even look back? Doesn't even flinch.

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He puts his sunglasses on, or he would if he

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had them. It's a pure action movie moment, but

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in the context of this show, it's sheer insanity.

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It is a striking visual, but let's look at the

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actual fallout of this. Because you can't just

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blow up a car in a parking lot and walk away

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scot -free in the real world, or even in the

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Breaking Bad world. There are real consequences.

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You can't just incinerate a vehicle and expect

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nobody to ask any questions. Right. And this

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is where the criminal tax comes in. The source

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material notes that Saul Goodman, their lawyer,

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has to step in and cover this up. Because you

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can't have the police investigating why a chemistry

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teacher blew up a sports car. Exactly. That leads

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to questions about mental stability, finances,

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literally everything. Saul has to work his magic.

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He has to bribe people, falsify reports, maybe

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pay off the lot owner to say it was an electrical

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fault or something totally ridiculous. Something

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to make it go away. Right. And the cost of this

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little outburst, the source is very specific.

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$52 ,000. $52 ,000. Yeah. Let's really sit with

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that number for a second just to clean up a temper

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tantrum. That is more than the median income

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for a lot of people in the United States. Easily.

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That is a year of work, hard work for a regular

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person. That's a down payment on a house. And

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Walt burns it literally and metaphorically in

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five minutes just because he didn't want to listen

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to his wife. It really highlights his complete

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inability to accept control. If Skyler says return

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the car, returning the car feels like losing

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to destroying the car. That feels like winning.

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Even if it costs him 50 grand. He'd rather pay

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$50 ,000 to destroy something than $0 to admit

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Skyler was right. It's a Pyrrhic victory. It's

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distinctively Walter White logic. I will burn

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my own kingdom down before I let you rule it.

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It shows how his ego is actually an expense line

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item in their business now. Precisely. His ego

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is the biggest liability they have. But this

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scene transitions us perfectly to the next segment,

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which is all about the actual economics of his

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crime. Right. Because right after burning money,

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he feels this intense need to prove exactly how

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much he has. He needs to show Skyler that 52

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grand is nothing to him. It's pocket change.

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So he drops off money to Schuyler. He just dumps

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it on the table. It's his bi -weekly profits.

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And the number here is staggering. It is. He

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hands her approximately $274 ,000. Let's just

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pause on that math for a second. $274 ,000. That

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is every two weeks. It's wild. That is his take

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-home pay for cooking meth for Gus Fring. So

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if we extrapolate that let's do the math for

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you listening because the scale here is Mind

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-boggling compared to his old teacher salary

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if you run that out over a year 26 pay periods

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you are looking at an annual income of over seven

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million dollars Seven point one million to be

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precise seven million dollars a year From cooking

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meth in a basement under a commercial laundry,

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he went from making maybe $45 ,000 a year teaching

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high school chemistry to making $7 million. It's

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astronomical. It puts him in the realm of professional

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athletes or CEOs of major corporations. But here

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is the catch. Right. The source specifically

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mentions Skylar's reaction to this massive pile

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of cash. She isn't doing a happy dance. She isn't

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thrilled. She isn't popping champagne. No. She

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is stunned. And she is terrified. She looks at

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that bag of money like it's a live bomb. Why?

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I mean, just playing devil's advocate here, who

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wouldn't want seven million dollars? Why is she

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scared? Is it just the illegality of it? It's

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the laundering problem. Yeah. She owns a car

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wash. That is their business. Now, the car wash

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is a cash business, which is obviously good for

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laundering. But there is a limit. Right. Imagine

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trying to explain seven million dollars in profit.

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through a single generic car wash in Albuquerque.

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Yeah, that's a lot of premium wax and air fresheners.

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You have to fake a lot of car washes to justify

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that income. You'd need a line of cars stretching

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all the way to the Arizona border every single

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day to make the math work. Exactly. You can't

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just walk into a bank and deposit it. You have

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to create fake receipts, fake customers, dummy

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ledgers. And the source adds a really great detail

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here. The money is mostly in $50 bills. Oh, wow.

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So physically, that is a lot of paper. Exactly.

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It's not a number on a screen. It's not a wire

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transfer from an offshore account. It's piles

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and piles of paper that you have to somehow make

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look perfectly legal. A stack of 274 ,000 in

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fifties is bulky. It takes up a ton of space.

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Skylar looks at that pile and she doesn't see

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financial success. She sees a logistical nightmare.

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She sees the work. She sees hours and hours of

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counting, hiding, and faking ledgers in the back

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room. It's the classic, mow money, mow problems.

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The cash itself is becoming a massive liability.

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It's almost like the cash is physical evidence

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just accumulating in her living room. Where do

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you even hide that much money? Under the floorboards.

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In the air vents. And Walt just drops it there

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like, look what I did. He doesn't care about

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the logistics. He leaves the headache entirely

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for her. Typical. He's the producer. She's the

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launderer. He thinks his job is done the minute

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the cook is over. It's incredibly arrogant. He

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creates the mess, whether it's a blown up car

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or a mountain of illegal cash. And he just expects

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everyone else to clean it up. It's a great juxtaposition.

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He destroys a car to feel powerful, then dumps

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money on his wife to feel powerful. But in both

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cases, he's really just creating massive structural

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problems for the people around him. Which brings

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us to the other side of the law. While Walt is

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creating headaches for Skyler, Hank Schrader

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is creating headaches for everyone else. Hank

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is on an absolute tear in this episode. This

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brings us to segment two, The Silent War. Hank

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versus Gus. Now, Hank has been recovering from

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his injuries. He was shot multiple times. He's

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been bedridden. He is not 100 % physically. He's

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walking with a cane. He's clearly in constant

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pain. But his mind... His mind is razor sharp.

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It really is. He's closing in on Gus Fring. He

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has this working theory that Gus, who is a pillar

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of the community, a friend of law enforcement,

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a massive booster for the DEA, is actually a

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major drug lord. And nobody believes him? Nobody.

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His boss doesn't believe him. The entire department

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thinks he's chasing ghosts or that the trauma

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from the shooting has made him paranoid. So what

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does he do? He goes straight to the source. He

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visits Los Palos Hermanos. The lion's den. He

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goes right to the headquarters of the operation.

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But he doesn't go alone. He takes Walter Jr.

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with him. Which is absolutely fascinating and

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a little disturbing. He takes his teenage nephew.

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to a ruthless drug lord's restaurant for a casual

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lunch. That is so bold. Is he using Walter Junior

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as a shield or just a prop? It's tactical. He's

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using the guise of a casual lunch. You know,

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hey, just grabbing a bite with my nephew. It

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disarms Gus. Right. It makes Hank look like he's

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just there for the fried chicken. If he went

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in alone with a notepad and a scowl, Gus would

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be on high alert instantly. But with a teenager

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eating curly fries, it looks perfectly innocent.

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But he manages to get something crucial while

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he's there. The cup. The cup. He manages to secure

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a standard paper soda cup that Gus Fring drank

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from. Or at least handled. How does he even pull

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that off? Because Gus is careful. Gus is meticulously

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careful. It's a brilliant bit of social engineering

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by Hank. Gus comes over to the table, to be polite,

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to ask how the meal is. He's playing the role

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of the Friendly, hands -on owner, Hank asks for

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a refill of his soda. Gus, being the gracious

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host, takes the cup to go refill it. But in the

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shuffle, or perhaps by grabbing a cup Gus had

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used or touched, Hank secures the evidence. It's

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sleight of hand. This is such a classic detective

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move. It really reminds me of Columbo, you know,

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playing the fool, playing the, oh, just one more

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thing guy, while actually being the smartest

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person in the room. Exactly. Despite everything,

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despite the PTSD, despite the physical limitations,

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Hank is actively gathering hard forensic evidence

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while looking like he's just enjoying a combo

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meal. And this directly leads to the meeting

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with Stephen Gomez and A .S. tech George Merkert.

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Hank calls them in. He lays it all out on the

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table. This is the big reveal. He has the cup.

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He has the prints pulled from it, and he has

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a match. The fingerprints on the cup from Los

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Polos Hermanos match the fingerprints found in

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Gale Boetticher's apartment. Boom. For you listening

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who might have forgotten, let's connect that

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specific dot. Gale Boetticher was the eccentric

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meth cook who was murdered at the end of season

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three. The police found his apartment full of

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libertarian literature, vegan food, and unidentified

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fingerprints. Exactly. And until now, those prints

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were just unidentified latents in a file. But

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now, Hank has a direct, undeniable match. He

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has connected the owner of a massive fast food

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chain to the apartment of a murdered meth cook.

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There is no innocent explanation for that. None.

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Why would a fast food CEO be hanging out in the

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apartment of a weird reclusive underground chemist?

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It completely destroys Gus's narrative. He can't

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claim he's just a legitimate businessman anymore.

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He was there. It validates literally everything

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Hank has been saying. But Hank goes even further

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in this meeting. He drops a name that completely

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changes the scope of the entire series. He isn't

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just looking at Gus anymore. Madrigal Electromotive.

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Exactly. Hank reveals that he was investigating

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this German company. This is the parent company

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of Los Palos Hermanos, right? Yes. Los Palos

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isn't just a local southwestern chain. It's a

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subsidiary of a massive multinational German

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conglomerate. Wow. And Hank reveals that his

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initial investigation into Madrigal was abruptly

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stopped by an attorney. Oh, interesting. But

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the implication is massive. This isn't just a

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local drug ring in New Mexico. This is a global

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corporate conspiracy. It's huge. You have this

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massive German conglomerate, Madrigal, shielding

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this fast food chain in Albuquerque. Hank is

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connecting dots that nobody else even sees on

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the board. He's pulling a thread from a chicken

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restaurant that leads all the way to Europe.

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From his bedroom. He's uncovering international

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corporate crime from his bedroom while recovering

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from gunshot wounds. And the walls are closed.

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in on Gus. Think about it from Gus's perspective

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for a second. He can handle the cartel, maybe.

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Sure. He can handle rival street gangs. He can

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handle erratic employees like Walt, but a relentless

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federal agent. who has physical forensic evidence

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linking him to a murder scene. That's different.

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That is a different kind of threat entirely.

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It's an existential threat. It really shifts

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the genre of the show. It becomes a high stakes

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cat and mouse thriller. And Gus realizes the

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mouse has very sharp teeth. Speaking of threats,

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let's talk about the threat coming from inside

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the house, or rather, inside the lab. We have

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to talk about the assassination plot. We do.

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Segment three, the ricin returns, Chekhov's gun.

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Or rather, Chekhov's poison. Walt is really feeling

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the heat. He knows Gus wants to replace him.

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He wants Gus gone. And he convinces Jesse to

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be the one to do it. He manipulates Jesse. He

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uses Jesse's new position within the organization.

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Remember, Jesse has been getting closer to Mike

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and Gus. He's becoming a henchman, as the source

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puts it. He's riding along on pickups. He's providing

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backup. Walt sees this not as Jesse growing,

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but as an opportunity. Use your access. That's

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the pitch. You can get close to him. I can't.

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You have to do this. Exactly. So, while concocts

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the rice and poison in the super lab, And they

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hide it. Where do they hide it? In a cigarette.

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A single cigarette. They switch out the tobacco

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for a small glass vial of rice, and they put

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it back in the pack, which is such a terrifying

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image. You have this incredibly potent weapon

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of mass destruction basically hidden in something

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you routinely put in your mouth. One mistake,

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one absent -minded mix -up, and you're dead.

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So Jesse is carrying this death sentence in his

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pocket. Everywhere he goes, he's walking around

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with it. And he finally gets his chance. Mike

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Ehrman -Trout takes Jesse to a sit down. This

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is a high stakes meeting. It's not just a low

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level drug deal. It's Gus Fring meeting directly

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with the cartel. And the tension at this location

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with this cavernous industrial distribution center

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is palpable. And Jesse is there to... essentially

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make coffee. Basically, he's the junior guy in

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the room. He's not a boss. He's told to make

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the coffee for the bosses while they wait. And

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there it is, the opportunity. He has the poison

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in his pocket. He has the coffee pot. He could

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end it right there. Just slip the raisin in the

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brew. Gus drinks it. He's dead in 36 hours. And

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it looks like natural causes. The source says

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he actually contemplates it. He stands there

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staring at the coffee maker. He fingers the cigarette

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pack in his pocket. He really thinks about poisoning

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it. But he is interrupted before he can act.

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Mike calls him over or the meeting suddenly starts.

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It's one of those incredible sliding doors moments.

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If he hadn't been interrupted, the entire trajectory

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of the show changes. Gus dies. The cartel probably

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kills Jesse and Mike immediately. Total chaos

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ensues. But let's talk about the meeting itself.

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The cartel pulls a massive power move here. They

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fin only one man. His name is Gaff. One guy for

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a sit down with the biggest distributor in the

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entire Southwest. It's an intentional insult.

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And it's a very clear message. Gus brought his

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team. He brought Mike. He brought Jesse. The

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cartel sent one messenger. Wow. And the man delivers

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an ultimatum to Gus. He basically says, surrender

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or else. He offers Gus a terrible, unacceptable

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deal. And how does Gus handle it? Does he try

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to negotiate? Does he haggle? Well, Gus was actually

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prepared to negotiate, according to the source

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material. He had an offer of $50 million ready

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to make the cartel problem go away. $50 million?

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$50 million. But when he sees this this blatant

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disrespect. When he sees they only sent one messenger

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to threaten him in his own territory, he rejects

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the ultimatum entirely. He stands his ground.

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He does. It's icy cold. He looks the man dead

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in the eye and refuses. He just says no. And

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as the cartel representative leaves, we get another

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moment of hesitation from Jesse. Right. The source

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notes that Jesse contemplates shooting Gus as

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the cartel guy leaves. The situation is extremely

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volatile. Right. The cartel guy had actually

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sniped one of Gus's men earlier at the farm as

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a warning. There is a gun available. Jesse has

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a gun. Chaos is happening all around them. He

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could do it. He could end his Gus problem right

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there in the confusion. But he doesn't. He actively

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decides not to pull the trigger. Why do you think

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that is? Fear. Loyalty. Pure confusion. Maybe

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he's just paralyzed by the sheer gravity of what

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he's about to do. It's complex. But I think Mike's

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observation later in the episode tells us a lot.

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Mike tells Jesse that Gus is actually impressed

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by his loyalty. Loyalty. That word just keeps

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coming up. Over and over. Gus thinks Jesse didn't

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shoot because he's loyal to Gus. Gus thinks he's

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successfully winning Jesse over. He thinks he's

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turning Walt's student against him. But Mike

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sees it differently. Mike sees right through

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it. Mike adds a stinging caveat to that observation.

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What does he say? He tells Jesse that he thinks

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that loyalty is for the wrong guy. Oof. Implying

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Walt. Exactly. Mike is telling Jesse, you're

00:22:05.819 --> 00:22:08.980
loyal to Walter White. And that is a fatal mistake.

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Mike knows Walt is a ticking time bomb. He knows

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Walt is purely manipulative. He's trying to warn

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Jesse. That is the central tragedy of Jesse Pinkman,

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isn't it? His loyalty is his best quality. He

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is fiercely, fiercely loyal. He is. But he gives

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it to people who completely manipulate him. He

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gives it to Walt, who eventually poisons a child

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to keep him in line. He gives it to Gus, who

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just uses him as a pawn against the cartel. He's

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a loyal soldier in an army of generals who literally

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do not care about him. Which leads us directly

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to the emotional core of this entire episode.

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The scene that gives the episode its title. This

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is where all that pressure, all that manipulation

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finally cracks him open. Segment four. The title

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track, Problem Dog. This is the scene that everyone

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remembers. Jesse returns to his narcotics anonymous

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group. Now, let's be honest about what Jesse

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has actually been doing there up to this point.

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He hasn't been going for recovery. No, he's been

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going there with his friends Badger and Skinny

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Pete to sell meth to recovering addicts, which

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is it's just despicable. It really is. It's one

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of the darkest, most cynical things Jesse does

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in the entire series. It's rock bottom behavior.

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It's totally predatory. He's preying on people

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actively trying to get better. But in this specific

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session, something breaks in him. He discreetly

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shares his feelings, but he speaks in a very

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specific code. He talks about a dog. He tells

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the group he put down a problem dog. But we know,

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and you listening know, he isn't talking about

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a canine. He's talking about Gale Bowediture.

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The innocent chemist. The innocent chemist he

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shot in the face at the end of season three just

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to save Walt's life. Right. He says the dog did

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nothing wrong. It wasn't sick. It wasn't biting

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anyone. But he just he had to do it. It's a confession

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of murder thinly veiled as a story about a pet.

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And he describes the dog looking at him. That's

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the part that clearly haunts him. The way Gale

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looked at him right before he pulled the trigger.

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And how does the group react to this story, the

00:24:07.849 --> 00:24:09.910
group leader specifically? The group leader.

00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.759
does what group leaders in those settings are

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trained to do. He offers absolution. He tells

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Jesse, don't judge yourself. He tries to rationalize

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it for him. Right. He says, you did what you

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.500
had to do. Sometimes we have to make hard choices.

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And that is exactly the wrong thing to say to

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Jesse Pinkfin in that exact moment. That is the

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match in the powder keg. It triggers an absolute

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explosion. Jesse completely rejects the forgiveness.

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He snaps. He doesn't want to be told it's OK.

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He stands up. He gets right in their faces. He

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reveals everything. Well, not the murder, but

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the meth. He tells them he's been using the sacred

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space of the group as a market to peddle meth.

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He just throws it in their faces. I made you

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my customers. I sat here and listened to your

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tragic stories just so I could figure out who

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was weak enough to sell to. He wants to be judged.

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He genuinely believes he deserves punishment.

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He's begging for it. He is begging for someone

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to look at him and tell him he's a bad person.

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Right. Because he feels like a bad person. Right.

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He can't live with the crushing guilt of murder

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if everyone keeps telling him, oh, it's OK, forgive

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yourself. He needs the moral universe to make

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sense again. And in a sensible universe, he should

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be punished for what he did to Gail. And he finally

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gets it. The group leader finally turns on him.

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The source says the group leader finally expresses

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disapproval. That silence in the room must have

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been deafening. The group leader realizes he's

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been played. He looks at Jesse with pure disgust.

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You know, weirdly that is exactly what Jesse

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wanted. It is. Jesse burns that bridge to the

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ground because he can't stand the hypocrisy of

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being forgiven for something he considers totally

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unforgivable. We really have to talk about the

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performance here. The source mentions the critical

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reception specifically highlighting this one

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scene. Yes. IGN called Aaron Paul's acting in

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the scene the performance of the series. The

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series. That is incredibly high praise considering

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he is sharing the screen every week with Bryan

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Cranston who won four Emmys for playing Walt.

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It's well deserved though. It is raw, it is ugly,

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and it is totally pivotal. Aaron Paul does this

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thing where his voice cracks, his eyes swell

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up, you can physically feel the self -hatred

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radiating off him. It's visceral. This is the

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moment Jesse officially stops pretending he's

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okay with any of this. He is a completely broken

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man. He is screaming into the void, basically

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asking for consequences. It's interesting to

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look at how the critics viewed this episode as

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a whole, because when you have a powerhouse scene

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like that, you expect the episode to be universally

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considered legendary. Right. But looking at the

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stats and the source material, it's a bit of

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a mixed bag historically. Let's look at segment

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five. Critical reception. The numbers are incredibly

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strong from the time of airing. IGN gave it a

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9 .5 out of 10. That is nearly perfect. That

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is masterpiece territory for television. TV Fanatic

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gave it a 4 .5 out of 5. The AV Club gave it

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an A minus. So universally acclaimed at the time.

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Critics uniformly cited the acting, especially

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Aaron Paul, and the incredibly high tension.

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They loved the character work. But there is a

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discrepancy. And I really love digging into things

00:27:18.500 --> 00:27:23.329
like this. In 2019, The Ringer, a major pop culture

00:27:23.329 --> 00:27:26.009
website, did a definitive ranking of all Breaking

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Bad episodes. All 62 of them. And where did Problem

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Dog land on that list? 51st. 51st out of 62.

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That is bottom tier. That is comfortably in the

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bottom 20 % of the entire show. It is really

00:27:39.150 --> 00:27:42.910
surprising. A 9 .5 at the time it aired, but

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ranked so low. years later. So how do we explain

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that massive gap? How does an episode go from

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nearly perfect in the moment to largely forgettable

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in the retrospective rankings? I think it comes

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down to the fundamental nature of the episode.

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It is a setup episode. Right. It's moving pieces

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on the chessboard. It's moving Hank closer to

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Gus. It's moving Jesse closer to the edge. It's

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moving the money to the car wash. It's arranging

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the furniture for the massive finale. It doesn't

00:28:09.230 --> 00:28:12.269
have the huge explosive payoff like face off,

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which is the season four finale or Ozymandias

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in the final season. It doesn't have a major

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character. Well, except for the challenger. Exactly.

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When you look back at the series as a whole,

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the episodes with the explosions other than the

00:28:25.069 --> 00:28:28.660
car. and the major deaths, tend to naturally

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rank higher in our memory. Problem Dog is a deeply

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psychological episode. It does all the heavy

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lifting, so the later episodes can actually fly.

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It's the bridge. And sometimes people forget

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the bridge when they're looking at the destination,

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but if the bridge wasn't there, you'd never get

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across. Precisely. Without this episode, Jesse's

00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:47.859
arc just doesn't make any sense. If he doesn't

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break down here in the NA meeting, his later

00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.000
actions don't work. Hank's discovery doesn't

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happen without the soda cup. This episode provides

00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:58.519
the structural integrity of the entire season.

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If you skip this, the rest just falls apart.

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So what does this all mean for us? Let's just

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recap what we've learned today. It has been a

00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.660
really dense hour. We've got Walt blowing up

00:29:07.660 --> 00:29:10.779
$52 ,000 worth of his own ego in a parking lot

00:29:10.779 --> 00:29:13.579
just because he felt small. He turned a midlife

00:29:13.579 --> 00:29:16.380
crisis car into a fireball. We've got Skyler

00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:19.039
staring at a seven million dollar laundering

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.160
headache that she genuinely doesn't know how

00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.140
to solve, realizing the money is a trap, not

00:29:24.140 --> 00:29:26.690
a blessing. We've got Hank Schrader. defying

00:29:26.690 --> 00:29:29.509
every odd, getting the exact fingerprints that

00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:32.450
link Gus Fring to a murder. Right. Blowing the

00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:35.069
case wide open using nothing but a paper cup

00:29:35.069 --> 00:29:37.670
and his own gut instinct. And we've got Jesse

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Pinkman, the problem dog himself, confessing

00:29:39.789 --> 00:29:42.789
his soul in a church basement, aggressively rejecting

00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:44.730
forgiveness because the guilt is the only thing

00:29:44.730 --> 00:29:47.049
that feels real to him anymore. It is a dense,

00:29:47.190 --> 00:29:49.650
heavy hour of television. It explores the true

00:29:49.650 --> 00:29:53.900
cost of crime, financial, legal. deeply psychological.

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It really is. Now before we sign off I want to

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leave you listening with a thought. You mentioned

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Mike's line about loyalty earlier. You're loyal

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to the wrong guy. As we look at these characters,

00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:06.220
Walt's utter selfishness, Gus's cold calculation,

00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:09.680
Jesse's crushing guilt, it really raises a profound

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question. It does. Who actually deserves loyalty

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in this world? Is Jesse the problem dog because

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he bites? Or is he the problem dog because he

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is the only one in this entire criminal underworld

00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.660
who actually still feels bad about biting? Is

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the conscience the actual problem? Exactly. Is

00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.240
his humanity the defect here? In their specific

00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.759
world, yes. Yes. Having a conscience makes you

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a massive liability. It makes you weak. It makes

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you a problem dog. In a world entirely populated

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by wolves, the dog that feels bad about killing

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is the one that inevitably gets put down. That

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is a chilling thought to end on. If you have

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the time, go back and watch that NA scene again

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with all of this context in mind. Really watch

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Aaron Paul's face. It is a total master class

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in regret. It absolutely is. Thank you for taking

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this deep dive with us today. We will catch you

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on the next one. Goodbye. End of transmission.
