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Welcome back to The Deep Dive. Today we are cracking

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open a really specific, a very intense chapter

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in the whole saga of Walter White and Jesse Pinkman.

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Oh yeah, a really dark one. Yeah, it is. We're

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looking through a huge stack of notes, articles,

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and all this great production trivia regarding

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the second episode of the fourth season of Breaking

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Bad. An episode titled 38 Snub. Exactly, but...

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Before we really get into the nuts and bolts

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of it all, I want to pose the question to you,

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the listener. How do you handle it when you realize

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you have absolutely no control over your own

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life? That is, I mean, that's the fundamental

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question of this entire hour of television. Right.

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Because we are looking at two men reacting to

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that exact realization in, you know, polar opposite

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ways. Literally opposite. Yeah. One buys a gun

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he doesn't know how to use and the other buys

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a massive stereo system he can't even stand to

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listen to. It's just wild. And our mission today

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is to really unpack this. We aren't just going

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to recap the plot. No, we never just do that.

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Right. Though we obviously will get into Walter's

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totally ill -fated attempt to become an assassin

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and Jesse's descent into absolute chaos. But

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we're going to look under the hood. The production

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side. Yeah, the production secrets. Like how

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they filmed a mirror shot that totally confuses

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your brain, or why they needed a 180 -foot crane

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for a single shot of a guy just standing in the

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street. And how a literal physicist ended up

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playing a car wash owner. Yes. I can't wait to

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get to that. So good. We also really have to

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talk about the sound. The audio landscape of

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this particular episode is frankly a character

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in itself. Totally. But before we get into all

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the technical wizardry, let's set the stage for

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you. Where exactly are we in the story? OK, right.

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Context time. We are in the immediate aftermath

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of the box cutter incident. And a hangover. The

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ultimate hangover. Gus Fring has just brutally

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murdered his own henchman, Victor. right in front

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of Walt and Jesse. And he did it to send a message.

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A very loud, very clear, and very bloody message.

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It was so visceral. You know, the season premiere

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was all about shock. It established Gus as a

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very real physical threat, not just this, you

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know, quiet managerial guy in a suit. Right.

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He's not just the fast food boss anymore. Exactly.

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So now in 38 Snub, the initial adrenaline has

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kind of faded, but the terror absolutely hasn't.

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Walt is terrified. He is convinced that he is

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a dead man walking. He thinks Gus is just waiting

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for an excuse to take him out. And then on the

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other side, you have Jesse. he is trying and

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really failing to numb the guilt of murdering

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Gale Boetticher at the very end of season three.

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And that's just the cartel side of things. Right,

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then you have the domestic front. Skylar is maneuvering

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to buy a business to launder all this drug money,

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and Marie is dealing with a very depressed, completely

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bedridden Hank. It's basically a pressure cooker.

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Yeah. And the creative team behind this specific

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pressure cooker included writer George Mastros

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and director Michelle McLaren. Oh, Michelle McLaren.

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Yeah, McLaren is a name we are going to say a

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lot today because her visual stamp on this episode

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is just undeniable. It really is. So let's dive

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right into the A -flat. The Walter White narrative.

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It all starts with the title of the episode itself,

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38 Snub. Which refers, of course, to the .38

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caliber snub -nosed revolver that Walter illegally

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purchases right at the beginning. Yeah, and this

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scene really sets the tone for the next hour.

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Walt is in this dingy motel room meeting a black

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market dealer. And the moment that dealer turns

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around, if you are a fan of genre television,

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you probably shouted at your screen, Jim Beaver.

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Jim Beaver, the legendary character act. I mean,

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you might know him as Ellsworth from Deadwood

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or deeply beloved as Bobby Singer from Supernatural.

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Yes. Seeing him in the Breaking Bad universe

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was such a massive crossover moment for TV nerds.

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It really was. But getting him there was actually

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a complete logistical nightmare. Really? Yeah,

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you have to remember, this was filmed back in

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2011. Jim Beaver was a series regular on Supernatural

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at the time. Which shoots in Canada, right? Right.

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He was incredibly busy. And usually in TV production,

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that means it just doesn't happen. Casting directors

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just move on to the next guy on the list. Usually,

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yes. But Beaver really wanted to do it. He was

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a huge fan of the show. So the production basically

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moved mountains. Wow. They flew him into Albuquerque

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and they had him for literally half a day. Half

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a day. That is it. They had to get this incredibly

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pivotal dialogue heavy scene done in just a few

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hours before putting him right back on a plane.

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That adds such a crazy layer of tension to the

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performance when you know that. They didn't have

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time to mess around. Not at all. And despite

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the rush, the performance is just so grounded.

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George Mastros, the writer, noted that he loved

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the irony of this character, Lawson. Yeah, the

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dealer. Right here you have a black market gun

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runner, an actual criminal, who is suddenly acting

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as the sound of morality in the room. It creates

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this wonderful tension. You expect the illegal

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arms dealer to be the chaotic element, pushing

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for violence. Sure, pushing the biggest, baddest

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gun. But Lawson is actually trying to talk Walt

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out of the illegal purchase. Or at least he's

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trying to steer him towards something illegal

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for defense, like a shotgun for the home. Because

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he's looking at Walt, this high school teacher,

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in a beige windbreaker, and he's doing a risk

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assessment. Exactly. He sees a man who is clearly

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way over his head. He's basically saying, you

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do not look like a killer, you look like a liability.

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But Walt insists. He wants the snub nose. He

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wants something highly concealable. Right. And

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that reveals his true intent. He isn't buying

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this for home protection. He is buying it for

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an assassination. He fully intends to walk right

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up to Gus Fring and shoot him. Which, as we will

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see, is a terrible plan. An awful plan. But before

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we leave that motel room... We really have to

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talk about how the scene opens because visually

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it does something very, very tricky. The mirror

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shot. Yes. Let's unpack this shot because it's

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one of those things you might miss if you aren't

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paying close attention. But once you see it,

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it's brilliant. It really is. The episode opens

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with Walter speaking directly into the camera.

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He's asking. So how does it look? And as a viewer,

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you think he's talking to the dealer. You assume

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the camera is the dealer's point of view. Right.

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It establishes this really intimate, almost confrontational

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connection with you, the viewer. But then the

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camera moves, or rather the perspective shifts,

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and you realize he isn't looking at the dealer

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at all. He's looking into a mirror. We're just

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seeing his reflection. It was filmed to be deliberately

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disorienting. Michelle McLaren wanted you to

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feel unmoored, just like Walt feels. It totally

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works. But there is a deeper critical interpretation

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here, too. Logan Hill, writing for New York Magazine,

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pointed out that this is a brilliant symbol for

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self -reflection. He's checking his mask, right?

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Precisely. He is wondering if the internal burden

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he is carrying, all that fear, the murderous

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intent, is actually visible on his face. He's

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asking, can the world see what I am becoming?

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Yes. It's a moment of intense narcissism and

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deep insecurity. He is practicing the role of

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a killer before he actually tries to be one.

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It's such a cool way to start the episode. And,

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you know, here is a little nugget for the set

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design nerds out there. Oh, the room itself.

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Yeah. That motel room. Totally fake. Which is

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surprising because it looks incredibly gritty

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and authentic. It has that, you know, stained

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carpet, cheap wood paneling vibe. Director Michelle

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McLaren wanted a real rundown motel feel. But

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have you ever tried to fit an entire camera crew,

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a boom operator, actors, and full lighting rigs

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into a real Motel 6 room? It is physically impossible.

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They're way too small. You'd be shooting everything

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in extreme close -up and the actors would just

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be bumping into the equipment. Exactly. Production

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designer Mark Freeborn built a set completely

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from scratch. But get this, it had removable

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walls. Oh, wild wall set? Yeah. They could pull

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a wall out to get a camera angle from a distance

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that would be literally impossible in real life,

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and then just slot the wall right back in for

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the reverse shot. That kind of control is essential

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when you are on a super tight schedule with a

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guest actor like Jim Beaver. Right, because they

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only had him for half a day. Exactly. It allowed

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McLaren to get those really cinematic, wide angles

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that make the characters feel isolated in the

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space without being constrained by actual drywall.

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So Walter gets the gun, he has the tool, and

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he practices his draw in his apartment, which

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is just another scene that oozes awkwardness.

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He's literally posing with it. It's Taxi Driver

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without the cool factor. He is desperately trying

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to psych himself up. And then he decides to make

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his move. He drives to Gus's house at night.

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Here we go. He puts on this black hat Heisenberg

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mode, fully activated. He's marching up the street.

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And then he gets intercepted. He doesn't even

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get close to the front door. Not even close.

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Tyrus, the new henchman who replaced Victor,

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just calls him on the phone. Walt answers, looking

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totally confused, spinning around. And the message

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is chillingly simple. Go home, Walter. It's so

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defeating. He is all revved up, adrenaline pumping,

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thinking he's the hunter. And with three words,

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they turn him right back into the prey. They're

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watching him the entire time. It perfectly emphasizes

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the asymmetry of information. Gus's organization

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sees absolutely everything. Walt sees nothing.

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Nothing at all. But the way they filmed his defeat,

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I mean, this is where the deep dive really gets

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good. There is a shot at the very end of the

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scene where the camera is looking straight down

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on Walt from way, way up high. Oh, man. This

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is one of the most discussed shots in the entire

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episode. It is an extreme overhead crane shot.

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Yes. Now, usually for television, a standard

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crane might go up 30 feet. Maybe 40 if you're

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getting really fancy. Michelle McLaren rented

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a 180 foot tall crane. 180 feet. That is 18 stories

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high. Just for this one single shot. Think about

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the logistics of that for a second. They're shooting

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at night. They have a very limited window of

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darkness. Yeah, I read the sources on this. They

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only had four hours to shoot the night scenes

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before they lost the permit time or the sun came

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up. So they had to set up this monster piece

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of machinery as the very first shot of the evening.

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Which is terrifying for a crew. Completely. If

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the crane malfunctioned or if the setup took

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too long, the whole night schedule would have

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been completely ruined. It was a massive financial

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and practical risk. So why do it? Why go to that

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kind of trouble and expense for a shot that lasts,

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what, maybe 10 seconds on screen? Because it's

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about scale. If you shoot Walt from eye level,

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he just looks like a man standing on a street.

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If you shoot him from 30 feet up, he looks like

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a man being watched from a rooftop. Sure. But

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from 180 feet up, he is just a tiny, helpless

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dot in the middle of a vast, dark world. It minimizes

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him completely. Exactly. McLaren wanted to convey

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Walter's absolute insignificance in that moment.

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He thinks he is this powerful player, this kingpin

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in the making. Right. But from the perspective

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of the universe, or from the perspective of Gus

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Fring, he is an ant. He is entirely alone, and

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he is totally out of his depth. literally a god's

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-eye view of a very pathetic man. And practically

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speaking, it's just a stunning piece of cinematography.

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Yeah. It elevates the show from a standard crime

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drama to something almost operatic. And that

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theme of, you know, pathetic aggression continues

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because Walt doesn't just give up. He can't.

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Right. He learns he can't get to Gus directly.

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So he tries to find a proxy. Which leads to the

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bar fight. Or, well, I should really say the

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bar beat down. Yes, the confrontation with Mike

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Ehrmantraut. So Walt tracks Mike down to a local

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bar, which, by the way, McLaren filmed so beautifully,

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she backlit Walt as he enters the bar. So he

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appears as just a stark silhouette in the doorway.

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It felt exactly like a scene out of a Western.

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Very Sergio Leone. We see that influence all

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over this season, really. The tense silence,

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the focus on the eyes, the wide framing. But

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the dynamic here is crucial. Walt sits down and

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tries to pitch Mike. He says, look, we're in

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the same boat. Gus killed Victor. He could easily

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kill you. Put me in a room with him so I can

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use this gun. It is such a desperate sales pitch.

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He's trying to use pure logic to recruit the

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guy who actively hates him. And Mike. Mike is

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simply not buying it. No. Mike reveals he was

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steps ahead the whole time. He knew Walt was

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tailing him all day. He even knew Walt was carrying

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the pistol into the super lab. That part is so

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embarrassing for Walt. It is. Mike basically

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tells Walt, you are not a partner in this. You

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are just a problem. And when Walt pushes too

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hard, when he implies that Mike is actually in

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danger, that is the trigger. The physical explosion.

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Mike just punches Walt, knocks him down and then

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kicks him hard while he's on the floor. And then

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he just walks out, leaves him there. It's brutal.

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And here's where it gets really interesting regarding

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the production and the stunt work. You might

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naturally assume, oh, they use stunt doubles

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for that. Especially with older actors. Nope.

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Bryan Cranston and Jonathan Banks performed the

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stunts themselves. Which adds a level of gritty

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realism you just can't fake with a wide shot

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and a double. Exactly. Stunt coordinator Al Godo

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arranged it, but the actors executed it. Now,

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safety is obviously paramount on a set. To make

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the kicking safe, they placed a really large

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sandbag against Bryan Cranston's torso. Oh, hidden

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under his clothes. Either hidden under his clothes

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or just blocked entirely by the camera angle.

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So when Jonathan Banks is winding up and kicking

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him on the ground, he's actually kicking the

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sandbag with full force. So Cranston is getting

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physically jolted by the real impact, but his

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ribs aren't shattering. Right. It allows Banks

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to really commit to the violence without holding

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anything back. But there was also a really specific

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editing choice that Vince Gilligan made that

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totally changed the feel of the fight. Oh, right.

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Originally, the scene was blocked so that after

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the conversation at the bar, they both stand

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up, square off, maybe exchange a look, and then

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the punch happens. It was more of a traditional

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fight start. Like a duel in a saloon. Exactly.

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But in the editing room, Gilligan decided to

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cut the standing up part entirely. Really? Yeah.

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So in the final broadcast version, Walt is just

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sitting there talking, trying to convince him,

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and then suddenly, bam! He is on the floor. Mike

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punches him almost out of nowhere. It makes it

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so much faster. It's incredibly surprising. It

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emphasizes Mike's raw efficiency as an operator.

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He doesn't posture. He doesn't need to square

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up or warn you. He just strikes. It makes Mike

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scarier and makes Walt look even more helpless.

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So that is Walt's journey in this episode. He

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buys a gun. He tries to use it. He gets told

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to go home by a guy on a phone. He tries to recruit

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a grumpy ally and he gets punched in the face.

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He is just flailing. He is trying to control

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his fate through aggression, and he is failing

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miserably. Now let's pivot to the other side

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of the coin, Jesse Pinkman. Yeah. If Walt is

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trying to control everything, Jesse is trying

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to drown everything out. Jesse's storyline in

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38 Snub is, it's honestly just heartbreaking,

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and some of the darkest, most oppressive stuff

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the show has done. He is totally miserable, he

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killed Gale, and now he is completely terrified

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of his own thoughts. So what does he do? He buys

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stuff. He engages in sheer manic consumption.

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He buys a very high -end stereo system. And famously,

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he buys a Roomba. The Roomba. I love that detail.

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Why a Roomba? Well, Raider George Mastras included

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the Roomba specifically because it is inane.

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Right. Think about it. It's a robot vacuum. Jesse

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lives in what is essentially a frat house mixed

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with a meth den. He does not care about cleaning.

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Right. Hygiene isn't really his priority right

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now. He wants the Roomba simply because it is

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a thing that moves. It's like a little robotic

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pet. It makes a humming noise. It occupies physical

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space. It's activity for the sake of activity.

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Exactly. He just wants something moving in the

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house so he doesn't feel alone with his brain.

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And when the gadgets aren't enough, he brings

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in the people. He has Badger and Skinny Pete

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arrange this multi -day non -stop party. This

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is the Sound and Fury segment of our deep dive.

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The party was a huge, fascinating production

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challenge. They couldn't film this in a real

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house. They're messy. Way too messy. You've got

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graffiti, pizza, drugs, hundreds of extras, and

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they needed to do things with the camera that

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you simply can't do in a real living room. So

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this was also shot entirely on a soundstage.

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And the camera work here gets really experimental.

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We talked about the mirror shot and the crane

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shot for Walt, but for Jesse... They went totally

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gonzo. We actually have shot from the point of

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view of the Roomba. Which is such a weird low

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angle scurrying perspective. It makes you feel

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like vermin scuttling across the floor through

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a forest of legs. And we also have a shot from

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the point of view of a pizza box. It creates

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this intense sense of nausea. You are trapped

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in this party and there is a specific editing

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trick called a match cut that director Michelle

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McLaren conceived on the fly. Oh, explain that

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for us. So you have a shot of Badger. out of

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the frame to snort meth. The camera just holds

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on the empty space for a split second and then

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instantly Skinny Pete pops up into the frame

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in the exact same spot. It basically loops them

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together. It creates this weird endless loop

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effect like one junkie leaves another appears

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and they are essentially the same entity. Exactly.

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It visually suggests that these people are completely

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interchangeable. They aren't real friends to

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Jesse. They are just warm bodies filling the

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empty space. The party feels like this This endless,

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repetitive nightmare, it is not fun, it is dizzying.

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And the music supervisor, Thomas Galubic, chose

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tracks that heavily reflected that nightmare

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vibe. It's not party anthems, it's variations

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of punk rock, hip hop, and heavy dubstep. Songs

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like Money by Dee, Slash R, Period, or Digital

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Animal by Honey Claws. It's super aggressive.

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It's an assault. It's not background music. It

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is an active weapon against silence. And that

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leads us to the final breakdown. The party eventually

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clears out. Everyone leaves. And Jesse is left

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alone with the exact silence he's been dreading.

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So he sits directly in front of his massive speakers.

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This is really the climax of the episode for

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me. He turns the volume all the way up and sits

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inches away. He is literally vibrating against

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the speaker to stop himself from thinking. Now,

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here's a tech challenge I honestly hadn't thought

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about until reading the sources. How do you film

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a speaker pulsing like that without totally deafening

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the actor? Right. You can't actually blast music

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at 120 decibels right into Aaron Paul's ear.

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It would cause permanent hearing damage in minutes.

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Yeah. Safety regulations wouldn't allow it. And

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you wouldn't be able to give the actor or any

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direction during the take. So they tried special

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effects. They tried a lot of things. They tried

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shaking the speakers manually off camera. They

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tried pulling the cones with invisible strings

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from the back to make them bounce. But it all

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looked incredibly fake. It didn't have that violent,

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rapid vibration of a real subwoofer pumping air.

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So what was the solution? How did they get it?

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Michelle McLaren went shopping. Right. She went

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to a local stereo store in Albuquerque and just

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explained the problem to the guys working there.

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She said, I need a speaker to move like it's

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blasting, but I need it to be quiet. That is

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just classic on the ground problem solving. She

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actually found a device there called a bass tester.

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It's meant to test the limits of audio equipment.

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It allows a system to push air and move the speaker

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cones at what they call maximum excursion. That

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means the cone moving in and out as far as it

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can physically go, but it does it at a frequency

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that doesn't generate the loud audible booming

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sound. No way. So the speaker's physically thumping,

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pushing real air, but it's basically silent.

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Relatively silent, yes. Just the mechanical sound

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of the physical movement. They even hired the

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actual store employee to come to the set and

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run the system for them. That is amazing. So

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Aaron Paul is literally leaning against this

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violently throbbing speaker, acting his heart

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out, physically shaking from the vibration. But

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the actual deafening dubstep music we hear on

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TV was dubbed in... later in post -production.

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That is pure movie magic. It explains why the

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performance is so visceral. He's actually physically

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interacting with the prop. It's pushing against

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him. And the critical reception to that scene,

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I mean, critics were floored. Tim Surrett from

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TV .com said, Karen Paul's acting ripped his

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heart out. Yeah. Emily van der Werf from the

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Los Angeles Times called it the most chilling

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thing so far this season. It's a genuine portrait

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of a man in hell. It really is. Yeah. So we have

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Walt completely failing to be a gangster. and

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Jesse failing to escape his guilt. But the world

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of Breaking Bad is bigger than just them. We

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have to check in on the supporting cast because

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there's some serious drama happening elsewhere.

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Let's talk about Skylar White. She is taking

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the initiative. She actively wants to buy the

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car wash where Walt used to work as a cover to

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launder the drug money. The A wanted car wash

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and she has to go deal with the current owner.

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Bogdan. A man with the eyebrows? The eyebrows.

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They are absolutely legendary. Now Bogdan is

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played by Marius Stan and here is a fact from

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the sources that completely blew my mind. Marius

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Stan is not an actor by trade. No he is not.

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Do you want to tell everyone what he actually

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is? He is a Physicist. A physicist. Yeah. Like

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an actual working scientist. A literal PhD scientist.

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He was teaching at the University of Chicago

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during the filming of the show. How on earth

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does a physicist end up playing a car wash owner

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on a prestige television drama? Well, he was

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living in Albuquerque for work at the time, and

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he just has a very distinctive look. The casting

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directors saw him and just loved his presence.

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He'd never acted professionally before in his

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life. That is wild. So you have an actual physicist

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playing a car wash owner. yelling at a fictional

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chemistry teacher who is secretly a drug lord.

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Only on Breaking Bad, but in this episode, Skyler

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approaches him with an offer and he shuts her

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down hard. He is still furious about how Walt

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insulted him when he quit back in the pilot episode.

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That's a great narrative callback. It shows that

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Walt's past ego trips, like when he grabbed his

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crotch and told Bogdan, wipe down this, are creating

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very real obstacles for their current criminal

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enterprise. Exactly. Walt scorched the earth

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because of his pride, and now Skyler has to try

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to plant seeds in it. It is not going well. And

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then we have the Schrader household. Yeah. Hank

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and Marie. Yeah. It is. It's really grim. It

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is very difficult to watch. Hank is bedridden,

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recovering from the massive shooting injuries

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with the Salamaka cousins from last season. He

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is deeply depressed, incredibly bitter, and taking

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it all out on Marie. He is just so relentlessly

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mean to her. He is. There's a scene where he

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celebrates a small victory with his physical

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therapist. He manages to move his leg or stand

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for just a moment. And in that moment, he's charming.

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He's happy. He's the old Hank. But then the therapist

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leaves. Right. The therapist leaves, and Marie

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tries to share in that excitement. She is genuinely

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thrilled for him. And he just walls her off completely.

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He absolutely refuses to share the joy with her.

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He goes totally cold. Critics really noted that

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this script effectively conveyed Marie's increasing

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isolation. She is trying so, so hard to be the

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supportive wife, and he is punishing her simply

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for witnessing his weakness. It's devastating.

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And speaking of witnessing things, we also get

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introduced to a new face. in the criminal underworld,

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Tyrus Kitt. Played by Ray Campbell, he is the

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new Victor. The permanent replacement. Interestingly,

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the script just called him new Victor for a long

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time. It was the writer, George Mastros, who

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finally gave him the actual name Tyrus. How does

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he compare to Victor in your view? He is colder.

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Victor was a bit of a hothead, always kind of

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eager to please Gus. Tyrus is quiet. He's hyper

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-efficient. He feels much more corporate, but

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in a very, very dangerous way. Right. He's the

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one who makes that chilling phone call to Walt

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outside Gus's house. Go home. Just ice cold.

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Moving on to the broader production style of

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the episode. We touched on the Western vibes

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earlier with the bar scene, but this episode

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is absolutely drenched in them. Totally. Reviewers

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were constantly comparing it to Sergio Leone

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movies like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

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What specifically gives it That vibe, do you

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think? Well, according to the sources, it's the

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extreme close -ups on the eyes and hands. It's

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those tense, drawn -out silences where nobody

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is talking, just staring each other down. It's

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the saloon fight feel of the bar scene. Entertainment

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Weekly writer Melissa Maris actually specifically

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pointed that out in her review. It's a modern

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Western. Instead of horses, we have Aztecs and

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Monte Carlos. Instead of a six shooter. Well,

00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:35.940
actually, Walt literally buys a six shooter.

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A .38 snub. Exactly. The iconography is completely

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intact. We really can't ignore the pop culture

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references. This show always grounds itself in

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the real world so well. At Jesse's party, amidst

00:24:48.059 --> 00:24:51.410
all the darkness and the drugs. Badger and Skinny

00:24:51.410 --> 00:24:53.910
Pete are having this incredibly heated debate

00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:57.130
about zombie video games. A classic Badger and

00:24:57.130 --> 00:25:00.130
Skinny Pete conversation. They are debating the

00:25:00.130 --> 00:25:02.809
mechanics of different zombie franchises. Left

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4 Dead, Resident Evil 4, and Call of Duty. World

00:25:06.509 --> 00:25:08.500
at War. They are arguing about whether zombies

00:25:08.500 --> 00:25:11.180
can run, right? The classic slow versus fast

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zombie debate. Right. And Badger has that hilarious

00:25:14.500 --> 00:25:17.339
line describing the Nazi zombies in Call of Duty

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as the Taliban's of the zombie world. It adds

00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:22.940
that perfect layer of absurd humor that Breaking

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Bad is so famous for. Even in the midst of Jesse's

00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.700
total psychological breakdown, you have these

00:25:28.700 --> 00:25:31.440
two guys arguing passionately about video game

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logic. It serves a narrative purpose too, though.

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It shows that life goes on. Jesse is falling

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apart, but his friends are just being their usual

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kind of oblivious selves. It actually isolates

00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.759
Jesse even more because he can't participate

00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.200
in that innocent stupidity anymore. He's seen

00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:47.460
way too much. That's a great point. And there's

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a pizza callback. Yes. The large, unsliced pizza

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at the party. It's a direct visual reference

00:25:53.059 --> 00:25:55.900
to the season three episode, Caballo Sin Nombre,

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where Walt famously throws the pizza on his own

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roof. I love that they keep that strange continuity.

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In Albuquerque, apparently they just don't slice

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their pizza. Fans were totally obsessed with

00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:08.549
that detail. Vince Gilligan eventually had to

00:26:08.549 --> 00:26:11.049
explain it on a podcast or an interview that

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this particular fictional pizza chain just doesn't

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cut their pies. They pass the savings on to you.

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It's so funny. So let's look at how this episode

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was actually received by the public when it aired.

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Ratings -wise, it had about 1 .97 million household

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viewers. Is that considered good for season four?

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Well, it was the third most watched episode by

00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:33.069
that point in the fourth season, but it was actually

00:26:33.069 --> 00:26:35.849
a significant drop from the premiere, which had

00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:39.089
over 2 .5 million. But, you know, this is pretty

00:26:39.089 --> 00:26:42.289
common in TV. Premiers grab everyone who's curious,

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and then the audience settles into its core base.

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And what about the reviews? Generally positive,

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but definitely with some caveats. people widely

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praised the attention and the visual innovation,

00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:55.680
the camera work we discussed, the crane shot.

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The Hollywood Reporter called the photography

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and direction masterful. Which it is. Salon .com

00:27:01.779 --> 00:27:04.759
praised the luxuriating pace and specifically

00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.359
highlighted that massive overhead shot of Walter.

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But not everyone was completely happy. No. Some

00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.099
critics, like those at Crave Online, felt Jesse's

00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.480
storyline was getting a bit repetitive. Like,

00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:19.380
we get it, he's partying, he's sad, let's move

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on. And Hank was so incredibly unsympathetic

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.059
that it made the Marie subplot really hard for

00:27:25.059 --> 00:27:27.509
some people to enjoy watching. And CNN even called

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it a placeholder episode. Which is a fair criticism

00:27:30.269 --> 00:27:32.910
if you were only looking for massive plot advancement.

00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:35.369
Walt ends the episode largely right where he

00:27:35.369 --> 00:27:37.910
started, totally helpless. But if you are looking

00:27:37.910 --> 00:27:40.170
for character depth and visual storytelling,

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I think it's absolutely essential. In the grand

00:27:42.490 --> 00:27:44.549
scheme of things, where does it rank historically?

00:27:45.069 --> 00:27:47.990
The Ringer did a definitive ranking in 2019 of

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all 62 Breaking Bad episodes. They placed 38

00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:54.950
snub at number 58. Ooh, that is pretty low. That's

00:27:54.950 --> 00:27:57.440
bottom five. It is definitely toward the bottom.

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But you have to remember, a so -called bad episode

00:28:00.579 --> 00:28:04.140
of Breaking Bad is still better than most incredible

00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:06.759
episodes of other television shows. It's a bridge

00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.819
episode. It moves the emotional pieces into place

00:28:09.819 --> 00:28:12.359
for the really explosive conflict that comes

00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.980
later in the season. So let's wrap this up. We

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have thoroughly unpacked the gun, the mirror,

00:28:18.539 --> 00:28:21.579
the 180 -foot crane, the silent base tester,

00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:24.920
and the physicist car wash owner. We really have.

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So what is the big takeaway here? For me, it

00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:30.220
is entirely about the illusion of action. Walt

00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:32.299
thinks buying a done is doing something. Jesse

00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:34.880
thinks throwing a massive party is doing something.

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But really, they are both just reacting blindly

00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.099
to their own helplessness. The production team

00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:42.279
used every technical trick in the book, from

00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.099
sky -high cranes to vibrating speakers, to visually

00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:47.759
represent that feeling of being small, trapped,

00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:50.589
and completely isolated. It transforms a quote

00:28:50.589 --> 00:28:53.230
unquote placeholder plot into a genuine piece

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:55.609
of visual art. Well, here's a final thought to

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leave you with listeners. Consider the profound

00:28:58.170 --> 00:29:01.529
contrast we talked about today. One man, Walt,

00:29:02.109 --> 00:29:04.769
looks into a mirror, practices his hardened face

00:29:04.769 --> 00:29:07.349
and tries to buy a weapon to control his fate.

00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:10.069
The other man, Jesse, surrounds himself with

00:29:10.069 --> 00:29:12.589
hundreds of people and deafening noise just to

00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:15.250
drown out his reality. Yet how does the episode

00:29:15.250 --> 00:29:17.650
actually end for both of them? They both fail.

00:29:17.809 --> 00:29:20.279
Exactly. Walt is lying battered on the floor

00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.599
of a bar, totally alone. Jesse is vibrating against

00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:25.920
a massive speaker in an empty house, totally

00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.140
alone. It really raises the question, is noise

00:29:28.140 --> 00:29:30.519
just another form of silence when you are truly

00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.960
suffering? Something to mull over. Yeah. If you

00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.140
want to see that crazy crane shot or the mirror

00:29:35.140 --> 00:29:37.640
trick yourself, definitely go rewatch 38 Snub.

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It is absolutely worth a second look with all

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this in mind. Thanks for joining us for this

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deep dive. Until next time.
