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Picture this if you can. You are standing on

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a quiet, typical suburban street in Albuquerque.

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New Mexico. Right, New Mexico. Yeah. The sun

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is just, it's beating down with that harsh high

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desert glare. Oh, yeah. You look up at a standard

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beige ranch style house. And there, sitting right

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on the roof, right in that little valley where

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the garage meets the main house, is a pizza.

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A massive reach. An extra large uncut pepperoni

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pizza. Yeah. baking in the sun. The cheese is

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probably bubbling by now. The grease is seeping

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right into the asphalt shingles. It is without

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a doubt one of the most absurd images in television

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history. It's completely visually arresting.

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and hilarious. It's iconic. I mean, you see it

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on T -shirts. It's constantly used in GIFs. You

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even see other shows referencing it. It has totally

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taken on a life of its own in Internet culture.

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Oh, absolutely. It's basically the Mona Lisa

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of food based memes. But and this is exactly

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why we're doing this deep dive today. If you

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strip away the meme status, if you stop laughing

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for just a second and look at the actual context

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of that pizza, it is incredibly depressing. It

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really is. It's a monument to a man's total failure,

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a total breakdown of communication. It represents

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a who has completely lost the ability to connect

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with his family using words so he resorts to

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this this pathetic grease -soaked offering of

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fast food. Just to try and bridge a gap that

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he created. Created with murder and lies. Yeah,

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it's tragic comedy at its absolute peak. And

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that is exactly what we are unpacking for you

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today. We are cracking open season three, episode

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two of our favorite Albuquerque saga, the episode

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titled Caballo Sin Nombre. Which, for those who

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don't speak Spanish, translates to horse with

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no name. We are going to go incredibly deep on

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this one. We're not just skimming a Wikipedia

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plot summary. We brought the receipts today.

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We have a massive stack of sources to go through.

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We do. We've got the original production notes.

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We pulled critical reception data from Vulture

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and the Ringer. We're diving into the actual

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legal mechanics of real estate fraud. That part

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is fascinating. It is. And we have some truly

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wild behind the scenes accounts regarding the

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filming locations, the fans and the actual physics

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of that pizza throw. So our mission today is

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to really understand how this specific hour of

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television acts as a critical bridge. Because

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think about it, we are coming right off the absolute

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chaos of the season two finale. The mid -air

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collision. Right. The debris raining down from

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the sky, the pink teddy bear floating in the

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pool. It was explosive. Yeah. But now we're moving

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into the much tighter, more suffocating grip

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of season three. It's a major transition. We're

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going from accidental chaos to organized crime.

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Exactly. And we're going to track three distinct

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threads to show how that happens. First, Walt's

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personal life, which is just loud, messy, and

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humiliatingly out of control. mildly. Second,

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Jesse Pinkman's surprising and very quiet strategic

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power play. And third, the silent, creeping horror

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of the Salamanca Cousins. The Cousins, just walking

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sharks, closing in on the protagonist. Sharks

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in shiny suits. So folks, strap in. This is going

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to be a wild ride. We are talking about the chemical

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composition of pepper spray. We are talking about

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stigmatized property laws. We are talking about

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incredibly shiny axes. And yes, we will break

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down the physics of a pizza throw. Let's start

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at the very top, the title. Right. It's such

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a deliberate, specific choice by the writer.

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Obviously, it connects immediately to the soundtrack.

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The episode is bookended at the very beginning

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and the very end by the song A Horse with No

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Name. by the band America. And that song is such

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a classic earworm, isn't it? You hear those opening

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acoustic chords and you're instantly transported.

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You're on a road trip in 1972. Exactly. I've

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been through the desert on a horse with no name.

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It feels so breezy. It feels like this chill,

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soft rock, easy listening anthem. It feels breezy

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on the surface, sure. But have you ever actually

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sat down and deconstructed those lyrics? Because

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Peter Gould... the writer of this episode, he

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certainly did. Okay, lay it on me. The song isn't

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just about a nice sunny ride in the sand. It

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is about negation. It's about the complete erasure

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of the self. How so? Like literally what in the

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lyrics points to that? Look at the core lines.

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In the desert, you can remember your name, because

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there ain't no one for to give you no pain. The

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song is suggesting that your identity, your name,

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who you are to other people, your relationships,

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that is the source of your pain. The civilized

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world brings pain, so to escape it, you have

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to go into the desert and become totally anonymous.

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You have to be the horse with no name. Wow, that's

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actually incredibly bleak. Very bleak. But it

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fits Walter perfectly at this exact moment in

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the story. It fits him like a glove. Think about

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his status in this episode. He is in this profound

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state of limbo. He's been kicked out of his own

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house. So he's not really dad or husband in any

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functional way anymore. Schuyler stripped those

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labels right off him. Right. But he's also not

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fully Heisenberg yet, at least not openly to

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the public or the law. He's just this guy living

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in a sad furnished condo, drifting. He's just

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floating in the wreckage of his own life. He's

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separated from the moral anchors that kept him

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somewhat human, but he hasn't completely embraced

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the monster role yet either. Precisely. He is

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wandering through a desert of his own making.

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The title underscores that total loss of identity.

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He's trying to figure out who he is, if he isn't

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a father and isn't a teacher. Is he just a criminal?

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Is he a victim? Right now he's nameless. And

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we should definitely mention the pedigree behind

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this script because the credits here are significant.

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written by Peter Gould, directed by Adam Bernstein.

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It originally aired on March 28th, 2010. It's

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the 22nd episode overall. And Peter Gould is

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a name that every fan should venerate. He is

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the writer who really developed the Saul Goodman

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character. He eventually co -created the spinoff,

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of course. Exactly. And you can see his fingerprints

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all over this script, particularly in the legal

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maneuvering we're going to discuss later with

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Jesse. Gould just loves that intersection of

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the hilarious and the terrifying. He totally

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masters that specific tone. where you're sitting

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there and you don't know if you should laugh

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or scream. Which is basically the sweet spot

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of his entire franchise. It really is. Okay,

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let's get right into the action. Segment two.

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Walt's spiraling lack of control. The episode

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opens with Walt driving his Pontiac Aztec, and

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immediately the visual language of the scene

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tells you something is deeply wrong. It's the

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windshield. That blue tape? Right. The director

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of photography, Michael Slovis, makes a very

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specific, deliberate choice here. He shoots Walt

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through the windshield repeatedly. We keep seeing

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that jagged awful spiderweb crack with the bright

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blue painter's tape struggling to hold it together.

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It's literally obstructing Walt's face. And for

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anyone who might have forgotten between seasons,

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that crack isn't just from a stray rock on the

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highway. Oh no, that crack is debris. It is a

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direct result of the Wayfarer 515 plane crash

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from the Season 2 finale. The crash he indirectly

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caused. Exactly. That is a literal piece of the

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wreckage caused by his inaction regarding Jane's

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death. So metaphorically, every single time he

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looks at the road, he is looking straight through

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the consequences of his own sins. He is viewing

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the world through a fractured lens of his own

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making. And the fact that he hasn't fixed it

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yet, that speaks volumes. I mean, he is driving

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around with a giant, I am guilty sign plastered

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to his car, but he's too stubborn or maybe too

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depressed to just call an auto glass repair shop.

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So he's driving, he's drifting along, he's singing

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along to America on the radio. And then the red

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and blue lights flash. He gets pulled over. Just

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a standard routine traffic stop. The officer

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sees the windshield, which is a massive safety

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hazard. He pulls Walt over. Now, any normal person

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in this situation, even a normal criminal, would

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think, OK, keep your head down. Be polite. Take

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the ticket. Do not draw attention to the fact

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that you are the region's top meth cook. Right.

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The survival instinct should be screaming, yes,

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officer. Sorry, officer. I'll get it fixed first

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thing tomorrow. But Walt, Walt chooses violence,

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not fi - violence but this intense verbal violence.

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This is a massive flare -up of his ego. It's

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what the ancient Greeks would call hubris. Walt

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is sitting in that driver's seat and in his own

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head he is a kingpin. He's a big deal. He survived

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Tuco Salamanca. He has half a million dollars

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in cash sitting in a duffel bag. He feels untouchable.

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So when this officer, this normal civilian cop,

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tries to tell him what to do, Walt just snaps.

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He feels insulted. He completely tries to big

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league the cop. He starts arguing about the ticket,

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getting highly technical, saying it's ridiculous,

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citing regulations. It's a full blown masculinity

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crisis. Look at his life. Schuyler has completely

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stripped him of his power at home. He feels utterly

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impotent there. So he's trying to assert dominance

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here on the side of the road. He gets out of

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the car, which, by the way, is the absolute number

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one rule of things you do not do during a traffic

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stop. Never get out of the car. And he gets right

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up in the officer's face. He's shouting. He's

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pointing his finger. It is so cringy to watch

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because we the audience know he has zero actual

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leverage in this situation. He expects the universe

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to bend to him. just because of his intellect.

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He thinks, I am vastly smarter than this cop,

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therefore I should win this argument. But the

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street doesn't run on IQ points, it runs on force.

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And the force arrives very quickly in the form

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of pepper spray. The great equalizer. Talk to

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me about that moment, because it isn't like a

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clean movie punch where a guy just gets knocked

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out. It's incredibly messy. It is deeply visceral.

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Pepper spray or OC spray, it causes the immediate

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involuntary closure of the eyes. You get difficulty

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breathing, your nose starts running uncontrollably,

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and there is this intense blinding burning sensation.

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It completely incapacitates him in seconds. We

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see Walter White, the great and powerful Heisenberg,

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literally writhing on the asphalt, snot pouring

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down his face, just screaming in agony. It's

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a total complete humiliation. It violently strips

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away all that fake kingpin armor he thought he

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was wearing. It reminds us, and it certainly

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reminds him, that underneath the hat and the

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sunglasses, he is just a frail man in his 50s.

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He has no army behind him. He has no physical

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protection. If he acts out in the real world,

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the system will just crush him like a bug. So

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he gets arrested. He's sitting in the station,

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eyes all red and puffy. And who is the one who

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comes to pick him up? Hank Schrader. And the

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irony in this scene is so thick you could choke

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on it. The head of the local DEA task force is

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personally picking up the region's biggest meth

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manufacturer from the drunk tank. Hank is such

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a genuinely good guy in this scene, too. He's

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worried. He sees Walt looking like an absolute

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wreck. His eyes are swollen. He looks entirely

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defeated. And this is exactly where Walt shows

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his manipulative brilliance. He knows he needs

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to explain away why he's acting like a lunatic.

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He obviously can't say, well, I cook meth and

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the stress is getting to me. So he tells Hank

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the truth, but just a very specific curated slice

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of the truth. He tells him Skyler wants a divorce.

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He essentially uses Hank's natural sympathy for

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a marital breakup to camouflage the criminal

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behavior. Exactly. He weaponizes his own domestic

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misery. He knows Hank is a traditional guy who

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will attribute all this erratic behavior, the

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fighting with the cop, moving into a sad condo

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purely to the stress of a separation. It's a

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perfect cover story. Hank is patting him on the

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back, feeling so sorry for him, completely unaware

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that he is literally comforting the villain he's

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been hunting. It's brilliant and it's sickening.

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But after this whole ordeal, Walt realizes he

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needs actual legal advice, not for the traffic

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ticket, but to figure out his exposure with Skyler.

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So he goes to see Saul Goodman. And I just love

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the visual and tonal contrast here. Walt is emotional.

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He's messy. He's romanticizing his family and

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his role as a provider. And Saul, Saul is cold.

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hard and strictly pragmatic. Saul hears about

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the separation and he's basically just like,

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great, good riddance. Saul is the ultimate realist.

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He sits whilst down and explains the spousal

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privilege dynamic. He tells Walt that, legally

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speaking, Skyler cannot be forced to testify

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against him in a criminal court. Right, they

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can't compel a wife to take the stand against

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her husband. Exactly. But Saul goes a crucial

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step further. He analyzes Skyler's underlying

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psychology. He tells Walt that she won't go to

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the police voluntarily either because she is

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terrified of the fallout. She doesn't want Walt

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Jr. to find out his dad is a drug dealer. He

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doesn't want the house and the bank accounts

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seized by the government. Right. Saul correctly

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identifies that in this situation, fear is a

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much stronger silencer than love or loyalty.

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He tells Walt point blank, she's bluffing. She

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will not blow up her own family just to get you."

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And then he pivots and gives Walt some very classic

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Saul Goodman advice. Go find a new woman. Find

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someone who appreciates the bad boy vibe. He

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literally suggests Thai women. He suggests just

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moving on entirely. Saul sees Walt purely as

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a money -making machine. To Saul, a wife is nothing

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more than a liability that slows down meth production.

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He wants Walt to just embrace the bachelor life

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of a wealthy, unencumbered criminal. But Walt

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flat out refuses. He is so stubborn. He says,

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I am not leaving my family. He absolutely refuses

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to accept that he has already burned that place

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to the ground. And that stubborn refusal forces

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Saul to take out an insurance policy. Because

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Walt is acting highly irrational and emotional,

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Saul decides he needs a professional to monitor

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the situation. So he hires Mike Ehrmantraff.

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Well, this is a great milestone, too. This is

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the first time we really get to see Mike doing

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his primary thing, right? In a pure surveillance

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capacity, yes. Saul hires Mike to bug the White

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residents, to keep a close eye on Skyler and

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on Walt. It's a really crucial plot point because

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it firmly establishes Mike as the all -seeing

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eye of the Albuquerque underworld. Which perfectly

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sets the stage for the moment everyone has been

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waiting for. Segment three. The pizza on the

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roof, the deepest dive of the episode. Yeah,

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the main event. So Walt completely ignores Saul's

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advice. He decides he's going to force a romantic

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reconciliation. He shows up at the family house.

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But Skyler has changed the locks. He literally

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cannot get his key to turn. But he brought a

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peace offering, the pizza. And not just the pizza.

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He specifically mentions he brought dipping sticks.

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Oh, that detail just kills me. It is so pathetic.

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Yeah. He honestly thinks. I have destroyed the

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moral fabric of our entire lives. I have lied

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to your face for months. I have directly endangered

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our children. But hey, maybe these breadsticks

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with little marinara sauce will smooth things

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over. It really highlights how deeply delusional

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he is at this. Now we really need to stop right

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here and talk about the physical reality and

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the production of this specific moment because

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what we actually see on the screen seems mathematically

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impossible. It's a giant floppy heavy disk of

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dough, sauce, and cheese. Right. If you or I

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walked outside right now and tried to throw an

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extra large uncut pizza at a cardboard box onto

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a roof, what would happen? It would be a disaster.

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The box would catch the wind and fly one way,

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the pizza would slide out and fly the other way,

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the cheese would immediately separate from the

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crust, it would just land in a greasy heap on

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the lawn. Exactly. Basic centrifugal force dictates

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that the pizza should have been destroyed midair.

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And the prop department on the show fully knew

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this. They were reportedly terrified of filming

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this shot. They had a massive stack of backup

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pizzas, some production counts say 10, some say

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up to 20, just sitting in a truck ready to go.

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They assumed this one shot would take all afternoon

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to get right. They're ready to rig it, right?

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Yeah. They figured they would eventually have

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to wire the pizza together, maybe glue the cheese

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down, or even use CGI in post -production. They

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were braced for a long frustrating day of wasted

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pepperoni. And then Bryan Cranston steps up to

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the mark. Adam Bernstein, the director, calls

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action. Cranston swings his arms in this fit

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of rage, releases the box, and the laws of physics

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just decided to take a coffee break. That's magical.

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The pizza perfectly slides out of the cardboard

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box midair. It somehow maintains total structural

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integrity. It spins horizontally like a heavy

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frisbee, and it lands perfectly flat on the roof.

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Crust down, cheese up. Even the landing was flawless.

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It didn't bounce, didn't slide slowly down into

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the gutter. It just... And if you watch Cranston's

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reaction in the clip, he barely even flinches.

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That is the absolute genius of his acting. He

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does this tiny, almost imperceptible double take,

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which was real. That was actually Bryan Cranston,

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the actor, being shocked that it worked. But

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he immediately stays in character. He just angrily

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gets into the Aztec and drives away. If they

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had cut the scene right when it landed, it would

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have been amazing. But the fact that they held

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the wide shot and kept his reaction, pure serendipity.

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It's one of those rare cinematic moments where

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reality is just fundamentally better than anything

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you could have scripted or animated. If they

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had used CGI, our brains would have subconsciously

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flagged it as fake. The fact that is a real physical

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object behaving so bizarrely is what makes it

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so memorable. It's perfect. But we do have to

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talk about the real -world fallout because this

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scene eventually became entirely too popular.

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The dark side of meme culture. Exactly. because

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this house is a real physical residence. It's

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not a set built on a Hollywood backlot. A real

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woman named Frances Padilla lives there with

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her family. And the fans. They really didn't

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respect that boundary, did they? Not at all.

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As the show exploded in popularity, people started

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making pilgrimages to the house in Albuquerque,

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which, you know, is fine, usually taking a picture

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from the sidewalk. But they wanted to recreate

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the moment. Meaning they're actually throwing

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real pizzas onto this poor woman's roof. Constantly.

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Frances Padilla actually told NPR in a 2015 interview

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that it had become a total nightmare. She said,

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we've had pizzas on our roof, we've had pizzas

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on our driveway, pizzas until we're sick of looking

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at pizzas. Just imagine that. Imagine waking

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up, walking outside in your bathrobe to get the

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morning newspaper, and finding a giant sun -baked

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pepperoni pizza melting all over your roof shingles.

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That is maddening. Not to mention the mess. It

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attracts ants. It ruins the roofing material.

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It smells terrible in the desert heat. It's pure

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vandalism. Plain and simple. And it got so entirely

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out of hand that Vince Gilligan, the creator

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of the show, actually had to intervene personally.

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He went on the Better Call Saul Insider podcast

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and issued a very stern public warning to the

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fan base. He called the people doing it, jag

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-offs. He said directly into the mic, there is

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nothing funny or original or cool about throwing

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a pizza on this lady's roof. Ms. Padilla even

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mentioned to reporters that she started sitting

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outside in her driveway with a shotgun at one

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point. She did. She said she felt like granny

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from the Beverly Hillbillies. Just sitting there

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trying to protect her own property. It really

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highlights a deeply toxic element of modern fandom,

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this bizarre entitlement where people think that

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because they saw a place on your television screen,

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they somehow own a piece of it. They completely

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forget that real, ordinary people live inside

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those walls. It actually changed how the television

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industry operates in New Mexico, didn't it? It

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really did. The pizza incident became a major

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cautionary tale for location scouts across the

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industry. When they later filmed the movie El

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Camino and the series Better Call Saul, the production

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teams became vastly more wary of using highly

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visible occupied homes for iconic character locations.

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They started building more fake facades or they

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made sure to use houses that were set much deeper

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on private property behind gates. that one single

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pizza throw completely changed the logistical

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protocols for filming in Albuquerque. That is

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just wild. A literal one -in -a -million miraculous

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throw that ended up causing a million real -world

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headaches. It really is the butterfly effect

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in action. Okay, let's pivot away from Walt's

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failures. Because while Walt is striking out

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with dipping sticks, Jesse Pinkman. Jesse is

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actually quietly getting a massive win. Segment

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four. The real estate revenge. Oh, this is easily

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one of the most satisfying storylines in the

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entire series. It operates like a heist movie,

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but it's a completely legal heist. So let's set

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the stage. Jesse desperately wants to move back

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into his aunt's house. This is the house he painstakingly

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took care of her in before she died, and it's

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the house he lived in during season one. But

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his parents legally evicted him and kicked him

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out. Since then, they've completely renovated

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it. They're flipping it. They put in high end

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new countertops, fresh paint, new floors. They

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are methodically trying to erase every single

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memory of Jesse. And more importantly, they're

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trying to erase the fact that there was a functioning

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meth lab in the basement. They listed the property

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for eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars,

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which. If you're looking at the 2010 Albuquerque

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housing market is a very very nice chunk of change.

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It's a premium listing. Jesse tries to go visit

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the property just to see it and his dad literally

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blocks the front door. He won't even let his

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own son step inside the foyer. It's incredibly

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cold. The parents look at Jesse like he's an

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infectious disease. So Jesse feeling completely

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alienated goes to see Saul Goodman and this is

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exactly where we see that brilliant Peter Gould

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legal writing shine through. They hatch a scheme.

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Jesse wants to buy the house outright, but he

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knows for a fact his parents will never ever

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sell it to him. So Saul steps in to represent

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an anonymous buyer and Saul confidently walks

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into the closing meeting with Jesse's parents

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and their high priced lawyer. And Saul just low

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balls them hard. The house is listed at eight

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hundred and seventy five thousand. Saul slides

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a piece of paper over and offers four hundred

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thousand. The parents are instantly insulted.

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They are practically laughing in Saul's face.

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They say, is this some kind of joke? We have

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multiple offers right near our asking price.

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And this is exactly the moment where Saul drops

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the hammer. He very casually mentions that he

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happens to know the detailed history of the house.

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He knows for a fact that it was a meth lab. No,

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help me out here with the actual legal side of

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this. Why does that matter so much? Can't the

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parents just invoke buyer beware and wash their

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hands of it? Not in real estate law, no. This

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specific situation falls under the legal concept

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of stigmatized property and material defects.

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In the vast majority of states, and definitely

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in New Mexico, a seller has a strict legal duty

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to disclose any material facts that could significantly

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affect the value or the physical safety of the

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property. And a former meth lab, I mean that

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is a massive safety issue. It's huge. Meth production

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involves highly volatile toxic chemicals, phosphine

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gas, iodine, various acids. These toxic compounds

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literally seep into the porous drywall, they

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soak into the carpets, they contaminate the HVAC

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ventilation systems. Professional environmental

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remediation for a meth lab costs an absolute

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fortune. So by failing to disclose that the basement

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was a chemical lab, the pigments weren't just

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being sneaky, they were actively committing real

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estate fraud. They were trying to pass off a

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toxic hazard zone as a luxury family home. Exactly.

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Saul calmly points out that if this fraudulent

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sale went through to, say, a nice young family,

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and they found out later, the pigments wouldn't

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just be sued in civil court for the full value

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of the house, they could easily face serious

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criminal charges for reckless endangerment. So

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Saul isn't even negotiating at this point. straight

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up blackmailing them with their own lie. He is

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holding a giant mirror up to their hypocrisy.

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Think about it. They kicked Jesse out onto the

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street for being a criminal, but here they are

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actively committing a felony real estate fraud

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just to make a quick buck on a house flip. Saul

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leverages their fear of exposure perfectly. The

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look on their faces when the trap springs shut

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and they realize they are completely cornered.

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It's just delicious to watch. They have zero

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options. They either sell it for the four hundred

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thousand or they risk going to prison and losing

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everything. And the payoff to all this tension

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is the final scene of this arc. The parents are

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out in the driveway packing up the very last

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boxes into their SUV. They hand over the house

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keys to Saul, who is acting on behalf of the

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anonymous buyer. And then who rolls up the street?

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It's Jesse. Driving his bright red Monte Carlo.

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The hydraulics are bouncing, the bass is thumping.

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He's wearing his signature oversized hoodie.

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He walks right at the driveway, right past his

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stunned parents. He reaches out, jingles the

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keys, and just says, I bought the place. It is

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the ultimate mic drop. It is a profound reclamation

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of his own self. His parents literally tried

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to paint over his existence. They tried to erase

00:24:09.779 --> 00:24:12.720
his history from that house. And Jesse took the

00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.440
dirty money he made from the exact thing they

00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.240
hate him for, meth, and he weaponized it to buy

00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.019
his way back into their world. It's a dark paradox,

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:22.779
sure, but for Jesse as a character, it is a moment

00:24:22.779 --> 00:24:26.579
of immense, undeniable empowerment. He's no longer

00:24:26.579 --> 00:24:29.160
the disappointment sleeping in an RV. He is the

00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:31.740
homeowner. He holds the deed. It is such a boss

00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:33.700
move. But, you know, while Jesse is celebrating

00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:36.500
his victory, Skyler is dealing with her own increasingly

00:24:36.500 --> 00:24:39.480
murky moral gray areas, which brings us to segment

00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:43.039
five. The moral dilemma. This specific storyline

00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:45.319
often gets overlooked in favor of the pizza or

00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.119
the cartel assassins, but it is absolutely crucial

00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.400
for Skyler's character development. She decides

00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.440
to go back to work as a bookkeeper for her old

00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.579
boss, Ted Benike. And pretty quickly, she discovers

00:24:54.579 --> 00:24:56.960
that Ted is cooking the company books. He is

00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:00.160
committing massive tax fraud, hiding undeclared

00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.519
revenue to avoid the IRS. It's incredibly messy.

00:25:03.859 --> 00:25:06.779
It's highly illegal. And to an auditor as smart

00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:10.259
of Skyler, it's glaringly obvious. Skyler, trying

00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:12.480
to be an honest accountant, flat out refuses

00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.819
to sign her name to those fraudulent documents.

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But I want you to listen closely to Ted's defense

00:25:16.940 --> 00:25:19.900
here. When she confronts him, he tells her, I

00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:22.000
didn't do this for me. I did it for the business.

00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.539
I did it to save my employees' jobs. I did it

00:25:24.539 --> 00:25:27.799
for my kids. Now, does that rationalization ring

00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:31.440
a bell? It is the exact Exact script Walt uses.

00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:34.059
I did it for the family. Word for word. Schuyler

00:25:34.059 --> 00:25:36.880
is essentially hearing Walt's core justification

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.000
coming straight out of Ted's mouth. It is a brilliant

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.740
narrative mirror placed right in front of her.

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.559
She is starting to fully realize that so -called

00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.720
good men, or maybe just weak men, will effortlessly

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.500
rationalize terrible illegal actions if they

00:25:50.500 --> 00:25:52.440
feel financially cornered. And she asks Ted a

00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.359
question in that office that is very clearly

00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.859
meant for Walt. She looks at Ted and asks, What

00:25:56.859 --> 00:25:58.859
would your daughters think if they knew? That

00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:00.980
is the haunting question of the whole series.

00:26:01.660 --> 00:26:03.859
She isn't just asking Ted about his tax fraud.

00:26:04.339 --> 00:26:06.599
She is desperately projecting her own waking

00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.559
nightmare. She is absolutely terrified that one

00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.380
day Walt Junior will find out his seemingly boring

00:26:12.380 --> 00:26:16.019
dad is actually a violent drug monster. And speaking

00:26:16.019 --> 00:26:18.440
of Walt Junior, he is carrying so much anger

00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.359
in this episode. He lashes out at Skyler repeatedly.

00:26:21.460 --> 00:26:23.779
He yells at her, why are you doing this to dad?

00:26:23.859 --> 00:26:26.480
Why won't you let him come home? He has no idea

00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.380
about the meth. He doesn't know the truth. And

00:26:28.380 --> 00:26:30.660
Skyler just takes it. She eats all of that venom

00:26:30.660 --> 00:26:33.259
from her own son. This is the underlying tragedy

00:26:33.259 --> 00:26:35.920
of Skyler White throughout season three. In order

00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:38.519
to protect her teenage son's innocence, she has

00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:41.299
to allow him to openly hate her. If she sits

00:26:41.299 --> 00:26:43.319
him down and tells him the truth, hey, your dad

00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.519
is a major manufacturer of crystal meth, she

00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.680
completely destroys his worldview and ruins his

00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:50.319
life. But if she keeps quiet, she has to play

00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.779
the role of the cold, irrational villain who

00:26:52.779 --> 00:26:54.920
broke up their happy family for seemingly no

00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:57.700
reason at all. And she actively chooses to be

00:26:57.700 --> 00:27:00.599
the villain. It is an incredibly selfless, incredibly

00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.559
painful sacrifice. She even threatens Walt with

00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:05.940
a formal restraining order later in the episode,

00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:08.259
just desperately trying to build some kind of

00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:10.460
legal wall around the house. But the emotional

00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.700
damage to the family is already done. But, you

00:27:12.700 --> 00:27:14.400
know, while Skyler is sitting there worried about

00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:17.180
IRS audits and restraining orders, there is a

00:27:17.180 --> 00:27:19.680
physical threat coming to Albuquerque that a

00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.200
piece of paper absolutely cannot stop. Segment

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six. The cousins we really have to talk about

00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:29.579
these guys Leonel and Marco Salamanca They step

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:31.740
straight out of a horror movie into the desert.

00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:34.759
They literally do not speak. They just move They

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:36.839
were those perfectly tailored metallic silver

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.279
suits the boots with the silver skull tips on

00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.500
the toes They are basically walking land sharks

00:27:42.500 --> 00:27:45.099
and they are systematically tracking the mythical

00:27:45.099 --> 00:27:48.339
Heisenberg To find him they go visit their uncle

00:27:48.339 --> 00:27:50.720
Hector Salamanca at his nursing home and that

00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.960
scene with Hector is genuinely chilling Because

00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:54.500
Hector can't speak either, right? He just has

00:27:54.500 --> 00:27:57.059
that bell on his wheelchair. But using a Ouija

00:27:57.059 --> 00:27:59.160
board -style letter chart, he spells out the

00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:04.079
name for them. W -A -L -T -E -R. W -H -I -T -E.

00:28:04.539 --> 00:28:07.019
That right there is the pivotal moment where

00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:09.920
the abstract threat becomes terrifyingly specific.

00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:13.079
Before this, they were hunting a ghost. They

00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.579
were hunting a street legend named Heisenberg.

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:18.599
But the second Hector rings that bell, They are

00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.779
hunting a flesh and blood man who has a home

00:28:20.779 --> 00:28:22.920
address. And they drive straight to that address.

00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.160
This sequence, honestly, has got to be one of

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.900
the most unbearable tense sequences in the entire

00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:32.339
show up to this point. Adam Bernstein directs

00:28:32.339 --> 00:28:35.319
it exactly like a slasher film. All the ambient

00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.339
background sound design just drops out entirely.

00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.619
There's no swelling musical score. It's just

00:28:39.619 --> 00:28:42.660
the eerie sound of the desert wind outside and

00:28:42.660 --> 00:28:45.519
the slow heavy creaking of the wooden floorboards

00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.380
inside. Meanwhile, Walt is completely oblivious.

00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:50.319
He's actually broken into his own house through

00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.700
the crawl space to fix a patch of dry rot in

00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:55.299
the floorboards. He has absolutely no idea they

00:28:55.299 --> 00:28:57.440
are walking up the driveway. The cousins just

00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.180
silently let themselves in through the front

00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:02.099
door and they are carrying that axe. That axe.

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.259
It is so incredibly shiny. It looks like they

00:29:04.259 --> 00:29:06.700
spent six hours just polishing the steel. It's

00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:08.700
deeply ritualistic for them. To the cousins,

00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.640
this isn't just a mob hit. It's a blood sacrifice.

00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.400
It's an offering to Santa Muerte. The shine on

00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.839
that axe shows that to them, this is a religious

00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.440
act. So Walt, completely unaware, decides to

00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.619
take a shower. He's standing under the water,

00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.799
singing a horse with no name to himself again.

00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.019
He is butt naked, scrubbing his back with his

00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:29.279
eyes closed. It is the ultimate deployment of

00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.519
traumatic irony. The audience is sitting on their

00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.880
couches, literally screaming at the screen, turn

00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.420
around, look behind you. We see the cousins walk

00:29:36.420 --> 00:29:38.759
down the hall. They sit down side by side on

00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.410
Walton Schuyler's bed, just waiting. One of them

00:29:42.410 --> 00:29:44.430
picks up the shiny axe and rest is on his knee.

00:29:44.869 --> 00:29:47.049
They can hear the shower water running. They

00:29:47.049 --> 00:29:49.730
slowly stand up. They walk right up to the frosted

00:29:49.730 --> 00:29:51.990
glass of the bathroom door. They stand there

00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:54.390
just watching Walt's blurry shadow move around

00:29:54.390 --> 00:29:58.789
inside. This is it. Walt is a hundred percent

00:29:58.789 --> 00:30:01.109
dead. There is no secret weapon. There is no

00:30:01.109 --> 00:30:03.769
chemical explosion he can rig up. He is trapped

00:30:03.769 --> 00:30:06.849
in a glass box, unarmed and naked. And then just

00:30:06.849 --> 00:30:09.509
as the hand goes to the door, the VIGRATION,

00:30:09.630 --> 00:30:11.990
a single text message arrives on one of the cousin's

00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:14.269
burner phones. They open it up and look at the

00:30:14.269 --> 00:30:17.980
screen. It's just one single word. Palos. and

00:30:17.980 --> 00:30:20.000
instantly everything just stops. The tension

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.400
in the room just completely snaps. The cousins

00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.440
look at the phone screen, they look back at the

00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.380
frosted glass door, and they just turn around

00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:30.380
and quietly walk right out of the house. This

00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:33.119
specific moment is so critical for understanding

00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.400
the actual power structure of the Breaking Bad

00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.359
universe, because you have to ask, who sent that

00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.490
text message? Gus Fring. The Chicken Man. But

00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:44.029
how did Gus possibly know that the cousins were

00:30:44.029 --> 00:30:46.549
standing inside Walter White's bedroom at that

00:30:46.549 --> 00:30:49.630
exact second? Because of Mike. Mike had literally

00:30:49.630 --> 00:30:51.930
just bugged the house earlier that day for Saul.

00:30:52.190 --> 00:30:55.670
Exactly. Mike is acting as this invisible, highly

00:30:55.670 --> 00:30:58.210
competent guardian angel. He was sitting in his

00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:00.289
car down the street, watching the cousins on

00:31:00.289 --> 00:31:03.130
his wiretap video feed. He immediately called

00:31:03.130 --> 00:31:06.380
Gus. Gus immediately sent the text. It perfectly

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:09.180
illustrates that Gus Fring has absolute godlike

00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:11.819
control over this territory. Gus isn't even in

00:31:11.819 --> 00:31:13.720
the room. He might not even be in the same zip

00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.339
code, but one single six -letter text message

00:31:16.339 --> 00:31:19.599
from him is enough to stop two psychopathic cartel

00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.799
hitmen dead in their tracks. It also starkly

00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.160
highlights Walt's utter vulnerability. I mean,

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:28.680
Walt eventually builds this mythology where he

00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:30.420
thinks he's the one who knocks. He thinks he

00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:34.900
is the danger. But in this scene, He is just

00:31:34.900 --> 00:31:37.180
cattle. He was literally five seconds away from

00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:39.440
being slaughtered in his own shower, and he was

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:42.240
only saved by a kingpin he barely knows, acting

00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.940
through a henchman he doesn't even trust yet.

00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.880
He's just a tiny pawn on a chessboard that is

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.200
much, much bigger than his own ego allows him

00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.400
to realize. He owes his continued existence entirely

00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.539
to the corporate bureaucratic structure of the

00:31:54.539 --> 00:31:56.940
drug trade, not to his own scientific genius.

00:31:57.339 --> 00:31:59.720
That is a deeply humbling reality, even if Walt

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.240
himself doesn't know it happened yet. So Walt

00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.920
unknowingly survives the axe, the pizza remains

00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.839
on the roof, Jesse gets his childhood home back.

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:10.920
Let's wrap all this up with segment 7, Reception

00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.400
and Legacy. When this episode first aired back

00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.960
in 2010, it was generally well received by critics,

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:18.160
but it wasn't immediately hailed as an all -time

00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:20.500
classic the way later episodes like Ozymandias

00:32:20.500 --> 00:32:23.230
or Crawl Space were. Right. Donna Bowman writing

00:32:23.230 --> 00:32:25.750
for the A .V. club gave it a solid B plus stage.

00:32:25.990 --> 00:32:29.089
She praised the tension, specifically that incredibly

00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:31.450
stressful final five minutes with the axe. But

00:32:31.450 --> 00:32:34.210
if you look at modern retrospective series rankings,

00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:36.549
it usually sits somewhere in the bottom tier.

00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:40.329
The Ringer ranked it 55th out of 62 total episodes.

00:32:40.750 --> 00:32:43.269
Vulture put it at 48th overall. Why do you think

00:32:43.269 --> 00:32:45.930
it ranks so low, comparatively? Is it just because

00:32:45.930 --> 00:32:49.430
nothing literally explodes? I think that's a

00:32:49.430 --> 00:32:51.849
big part of it. Structurally, it is very much

00:32:51.849 --> 00:32:54.289
a table -setting episode. It is doing all the

00:32:54.289 --> 00:32:56.910
heavy narrative lifting required to set up the

00:32:56.910 --> 00:32:59.329
back half of the season. It has to maneuver Jesse

00:32:59.329 --> 00:33:01.970
into the new house. It has to logically establish

00:33:01.970 --> 00:33:04.130
Mike's surveillance capabilities. And it has

00:33:04.130 --> 00:33:06.329
to firmly introduce the physical threat of the

00:33:06.329 --> 00:33:09.170
cousins. It is all set up with very little immediate

00:33:09.170 --> 00:33:10.930
resolution. It's eating your vegetables before

00:33:10.930 --> 00:33:13.849
you get to the dessert. Exactly. But without

00:33:13.849 --> 00:33:16.109
the foundation built in this episode, the rest

00:33:16.109 --> 00:33:19.150
of the season completely falls apart. You absolutely

00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:21.509
need to see Walt's pathetic humiliation with

00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:24.369
the police and the pizza to fully understand

00:33:24.369 --> 00:33:27.380
his explosive rage later on. You need to see

00:33:27.380 --> 00:33:29.700
Jesse's real estate victory to understand why

00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:31.920
he eventually feels confident enough to challenge

00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.160
the business hierarchy. And the viewership numbers

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:35.960
actually dipped a little bit for this one, too.

00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:39.819
It drew 1 .55 million viewers, which was down

00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:41.960
from the season three premiere. That's a pretty

00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:44.680
standard week two drop off for cable at the time.

00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:47.559
But the fans who stayed tuned in were heavily

00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.039
rewarded with some incredibly deep character

00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.779
psychology. So bringing this all back home, what

00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:56.119
is the grand overarching takeaway from Caballos

00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.579
and Nombre? For me, it all circles right back

00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:01.500
to the title itself. Identity. Every single major

00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:04.140
character in this hour of television is actively

00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:06.000
struggling with their name and their place in

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.260
the world. Walt is desperately trying to play

00:34:08.260 --> 00:34:10.800
the family man while having literally no family

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.639
to go home to. Jesse is trying to play the respectable

00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:15.940
homeowner despite being a traumatized criminal.

00:34:16.090 --> 00:34:18.530
And the cousins. They are the only people in

00:34:18.530 --> 00:34:20.530
the episode who seem to know exactly who they

00:34:20.530 --> 00:34:22.730
are and what their purpose is. And that clarity

00:34:22.730 --> 00:34:25.389
is exactly why they are so utterly terrifying.

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:28.929
But consider the dark irony of it all. By the

00:34:28.929 --> 00:34:31.130
end of the episode, Walt has completely lost

00:34:31.130 --> 00:34:35.130
his good name with his wife and son. He is essentially

00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:39.130
a nobody in his own suburban home, but to the

00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:42.610
cartel. to the deadly cousins. He is definitively

00:34:42.610 --> 00:34:45.010
Walter White. He is the prime target. He lost

00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:46.969
the wholesome identity he desperately wanted

00:34:46.969 --> 00:34:49.190
to keep, and he gained the dangerous identity

00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:51.309
that is actively trying to kill him. That is

00:34:51.309 --> 00:34:53.570
the core tragedy. In trying to be somebody of

00:34:53.570 --> 00:34:55.670
importance, he just became a mark. And he lost

00:34:55.670 --> 00:34:58.289
a perfectly good uncut pepperoni pizza in the

00:34:58.289 --> 00:35:01.260
process. A profound tragedy on all fronts. Well,

00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.119
before we sign off, I want to leave you with

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.639
one final thought to mull over. We've spent this

00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.099
whole time talking about Walt's namelessness

00:35:08.099 --> 00:35:10.860
and the cousins hunting down his real name. But

00:35:10.860 --> 00:35:12.860
I want you to think about the house Jesse just

00:35:12.860 --> 00:35:15.300
bought. It isn't just a piece of real estate.

00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.539
By aggressively weaponizing the trauma of the

00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:21.820
basement meth lab to extort his parents, Jesse

00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:24.539
has fundamentally tethered his new sanctuary

00:35:24.989 --> 00:35:27.789
to the exact same poison that ruined his life

00:35:27.789 --> 00:35:30.909
in the first place. So you have to ask yourself,

00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.349
can a home that was bought using the leverage

00:35:33.349 --> 00:35:36.730
of toxic history ever truly be a safe haven?

00:35:37.010 --> 00:35:38.789
That's a great question. You can't just paint

00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:41.210
over that kind of stain. You really can. Well,

00:35:41.230 --> 00:35:43.230
there you have it, a complete deep dive into

00:35:43.230 --> 00:35:46.210
the desert of Caballo Sin Nombre. If you go back

00:35:46.210 --> 00:35:48.989
and rewatch this episode tonight, Pay close attention

00:35:48.989 --> 00:35:51.510
to that blue tape on the windshield. Pay attention

00:35:51.510 --> 00:35:54.289
to the terrifying way the cousins move. And please,

00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:56.590
for the love of all that is good, do not ever

00:35:56.590 --> 00:35:59.409
throw a pizza on anyone's roof. Please, leave

00:35:59.409 --> 00:36:01.349
the pizza eating to the professionals on your

00:36:01.349 --> 00:36:03.210
couch. Thanks for listening. We will catch you

00:36:03.210 --> 00:36:04.769
on the next Deep Dive. Stay curious.
