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So I want you to cast your mind back for a second.

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It is April 26, 2009. Oh, wow. Going way back.

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Yeah. I mean, the global economy is just an absolute

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freefall from the financial crisis. Right. And

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if you turned on the radio, the black eyed peas

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are completely dominating the airwaves with boom

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pow. I remember it well. Right. And on a Sunday

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night on this channel that honestly was mostly

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known for showing old Westerns and maybe some

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classic movies, there was this show about a high

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school chemistry teacher. And it is quietly just

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sort of struggling to find its footing. We are

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right in the middle of season two of Breaking

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Bad. And context really is everything here. Because

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in 2009, Breaking Bad was not the massive cultural

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monolith that it is today. Not at all. It was

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a critical darling, sure. And critics absolutely

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loved it. But the viewership was modest. It was

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a cult hit at best, really. Yeah, it was very

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under the radar. Exactly. And totally. Up until

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this specific point. The show was this gritty,

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almost suffocatingly intense neo -Western. Suffocating

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is a good word for it. It was beige. It was silent.

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It was incredibly grim. It honestly felt a bit

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like no country for old men, but adapted for

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basic cable. You had these high stakes, very

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low dialogue, and just lots of wind blowing through

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the desert. Precisely. It was essentially a tragedy

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playing out in Slam Ocean. And then right in

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the eighth episode of the second season, the

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writers Specifically, Peter Gould decided to

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do something incredibly risky. They decided to

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basically open a side door to this intense tragedy

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and let a clown walk in. And that is the exact

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moment the universe expands. So we are doing

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a deep dive today into the episode titled, appropriately

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enough, Better Call Saul. It's a fantastic title.

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It really is. And our mission today for you listening

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isn't just to recap the plot. You've seen the

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show. You know what happens. Our mission here

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is to investigate what I would call a creative

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accident. A creative accident. Yeah, I'd argue

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it is the most successful creative accident in

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television history. We're going to look at how

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a 47 minute episode of television, which was

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written essentially just to solve a temporary

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plot mechanics problem, ended up spawning a billion

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dollar franchise. It really did recontextualize

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the entire series. Exactly. It introduced a character

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who was arguably never even meant to survive

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the season. That is a very fair assessment. We

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are of course talking about the introduction

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of Saul Goodman. And looking at the production

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notes you pulled for this deep dive, it is actually

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fascinating to see that Vince Gilligan, the creator

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and showrunner, wasn't even the primary architect

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of this character. Right. This was really Peter

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Gould's baby. And that distinction really matters,

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doesn't it? Because Gilligan has this very specific

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voice. It's suspenseful. It's dread inducing.

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Very methodical. Yes, exactly. But Gould brought

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a totally different flavor. If Gilligan is the

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master of suspense, Gould is really the master

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of satire. And when you drop a... a purely satirical

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character into a suspense thriller, the chemical

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reaction, yeah, pun intended there, it completely

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changes the entire viscosity of the show. It

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is like a splash of neon orange in a completely

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beige world. It changes the entire color palette.

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But before we get to the man himself, I think

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we have to look at the catalyst. Yeah, why did

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they even need a lawyer right at this moment?

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Exactly. Why drop this flamboyant character into

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episode eight of season two? Well, the plot engine

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really starts with Badger. Good old Badger. He

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gets busted sitting on a public bench that is,

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ironically enough, advertising the very lawyer

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who will eventually save him. The irony is incredibly

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thick there. But let's break down the whole save

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Badger problem structurally for a second. The

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writers were backed into a corner. Walt and Jesse

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are complete amateurs at this point. We tend

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to forget this later in the series when they

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become these untouchable kingpins, but right

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now They're literally stumbling through the drug

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trade using dumb luck and high school chemistry.

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Yeah, they're barely scraping by. But getting

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arrested, that is a systemic problem. You cannot

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fulminate of mercury your way out of a holding

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cell in the Albuquerque Police Department. Right.

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They had hit a brick wall where their quote unquote

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science just couldn't save them anymore. They

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needed a direct interface with the legal system,

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but they didn't go for some high powered law

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and order type defense attorney. No, not at all.

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They went straight for the strip mall and that

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strip mall is honestly a character in itself.

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Let's really break down that waiting room scene

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because the set design tells us absolutely everything

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we need to know about Saul before he even opens

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his mouth. Oh, it is almost nauseating to look

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at. You have these huge pillars which are very

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clearly fake marble. Very fake. You have the

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receptionist, Francesca, who just looks like

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she would rather be literally anywhere else on

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planet Earth. And then the wallpaper. The wallpaper

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is the absolute key. It is a literal print of

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the U .S. Constitution. But it's cheap, it's

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peeling at the edges, and it's omnipresent. It's

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efful. It basically screams, I wrap myself in

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the law, but I absolutely do not respect it.

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It treats the Constitution like a cheap commodity,

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literally like wrapping paper. And sitting right

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there in that waiting room, Walt is wearing his

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disguises. The hat, the sunglasses. Yes, and

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he just looks ridiculous. He looks exactly like

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a cartoon criminal, like he's wearing a bugler

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costume he bought at Party City on clearance.

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Which is entirely the point. In Saul's world,

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everyone is a caricature. And then Bob Odenkirk

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actually walks in. Now, we really have to pause

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on the casting here. This is crucial for you

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to understand if you're listening. Bob Odenkirk

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in 2009 was not a dramatic actor. No, absolutely

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not. He was Mr. Show. He was a sketch comedy

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legend. He was the guy you hired if you wanted

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absurdist alternative comedy. Exactly. So casting

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him was a massive signal to the audience. It

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was telling them, hey, It's actually okay to

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laugh. Because up until now, laughing at Breaking

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Bad felt almost wrong. It felt too dark. Yeah,

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way too heavy. But Odenkirk brings this incredible

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rhythm, this fast -talking patter that feels

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like it was lifted straight out of a 1940s screwball

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comedy. He talks faster than literally anyone

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else on the show. He moves faster, too. Yeah,

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he occupies so much more space in the frame.

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There is a very specific line when Walt tries

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to bribe him that I want to highlight. Walt poses

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as Badger's uncle, Mr. Mayhew. With the fake

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cough. Yes, the cough. And he puts 10 grand in

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cash right on the desk. He thinks this is just

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how the criminal world works. You pay the bad

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man, the bad man does the bad thing. And Saul

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throws it right back at him. This is the first

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moment of real genuine complexity for the character.

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He says, I'm not taking a bribe to throw a case.

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Which is confusing for Walt. We are told he is

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a quote unquote criminal lawyer. The emphasis

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being heavily on criminal. Why does he suddenly

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have ethics? Right, where do the morals come

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from? But it isn't ethics at all. It is risk

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management. And that is the true insight into

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Saul Goodman. He isn't an agent of chaos. He's

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actually an agent of order. He knows that taking

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a bribe from a complete stranger sitting in his

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own office is a one -way ticket to disbarment

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or a federal prison. He has a code. He has a

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code. It is a very twisted code, but it is undeniably

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there. He wants to manipulate the system by using

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the system, not by breaking it entirely. He prefers

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finding the loophole rather than swinging a sledgehammer.

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So the bribe fails entirely. The nice way, or

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at least the transactional way, doesn't work

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out. So Walt and Jesse, being the absolute brilliant

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strategists they are... Oh boy, here we go, the

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escalation. Yeah, they decide to just escalate

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straight to violence. They decide to kidnap him.

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And this brings us to the desert. Moving into

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section two of our deep dive. The desert scene.

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I really want to spend a lot of time here because

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honestly... We could probably spend the entire

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hour talking about just this one five -minute

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sequence. We really could. If you were looking

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for the Rosetta Stone that connects Breaking

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Bad to the prequel spin -off Better Call Saul,

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it is literally buried right here in the sand.

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So paint the picture for us. Set the scene. Well,

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it is night. It is incredibly dark. The wind

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is howling, which is a classic, classic Breaking

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Bad soundscape choice. Walt and Jesse kidnap

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Saul. They throw a black hood over his head,

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and they drive him out to the middle of absolutely

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nowhere in the RV. They step out, and they have

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these cheap ski masks on. And there is a freshly

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dug grave right there, or at least what looks

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like one. And they threaten to kill him. They

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just want to scare him into taking the bribe,

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basically. It's a very crude tactic. Do what

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we say, or else he go in the hole. Right. It's

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very blunt. But look closely at Saul's reaction.

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This is the absolute key to everything that follows.

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He doesn't say, Please I'm just a lawyer or I'll

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give you the money. He starts screaming something

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very very specific He screams. It wasn't me.

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It was Ignacio. It was Ignacio He shifts the

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blame instantly without even thinking and Then

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when Jesse who Saul does not recognize at all

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because the ski mask when Jesse keeps the pressure

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on him Saul asked the question that basically

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launched thousand fan theories. Yes Lalo didn't

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send you. Lalo didn't send you. And then just

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to double down on his panic, he starts babbling

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in Spanish about being amigo del cartel, a friend

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of the cartel. Okay, we really need to unpack

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this, because in 2009 when this originally aired

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on television, those were just throwaway lines.

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Right. Completely throwaway. Yeah. And this is

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so important for people listening to understand

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about how television writing actually works.

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Peter Gould wrote those specific lines just to

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add a little flavor. Just some texture. Exactly.

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To show that Saul is a guy who has some genuinely

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terrifying clients. The names Ignacio and Lalo

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were basically just phones. They were just sounds.

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They did not exist as fleshed out characters

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in a show Bible anywhere. They were just texture

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to make Saul look more entrenched in the underworld.

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So for literally six years, those names just

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floated out there in the ether. They meant absolutely

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nothing to anyone. Exactly. But this is where

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the absolute genius of the Breaking Bad and Better

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Call Saul writer's room really comes into play.

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They practice this technique they call mining

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the history. Right. When they started writing

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the prequel series years later, they didn't try

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to invent a bunch of new antagonists from scratch.

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They literally went back, looked at the old footage

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of this exact episode, and asked themselves,

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what questions did we leave unanswered? So they

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looked at this desert scene and simply said,

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well, who is Lalo? And the answer they eventually

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came up with, Lalo Salamanca, turned out to be

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perhaps the most charismatic, utterly terrifying

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psychopath in the entire Breaking Bad universe.

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They took a completely throwaway line of panic

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and reverse engineered an entire six season tragedy

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just to explain why he said it. It fundamentally

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changes how you watch this scene now. It really

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does. Because when I watched this back in 2009,

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I just saw a sleazy lawyer who was scared of

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some generic drug thug. But when I watch it now,

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knowing exactly who Lalo Salamanca is, knowing

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what he did to Howard Hamlin, knowing the immense

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psychological torture he put Jimmy through the

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terror in Bob Odenkirk's voice, it's entirely

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different. Yeah. It isn't comic fear anymore.

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It is quite literally PTSD. It becomes deeply

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tragic. And then there's the Ignacio line. he

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is throwing Nacho Varga completely under the

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bus to save his own skin. Which is so heartbreaking

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in retrospect, because in the prequel, we see

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that Nacho actually sacrificed himself to save

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Saul and to save others. Nacho was really one

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of the very few people in that cartel world who

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actually treated Jimmy with some base level of

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respect. It just shows you that Saul's sheer

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survival instinct will always override everything

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else, even basic gratitude. But let's look at

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the actual pivot point of this scene. Saul realizes,

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looking at them, that Walt and Jesse are not

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sent by Lalo. They're clearly confused by the

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names. Right. He realizes they have absolutely

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no idea who Lalo is. And you just have to watch

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the physical body language shift here. This is

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really Odenkirk's brilliance as a performer.

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He goes from being this trembling, sobbing victim

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to an annoyed, high -priced consultant in a literal

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nanosecond. He brushes the dirt off his knees?

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Yes. He stands up, brushes off his knees, completely

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changes his posture. And he says, why didn't

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you just say so? The relief. You can hear it

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so clearly in his voice. Oh, thank God. You're

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just the guys who want to save Badger. It shifts

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from a cartel horror movie right back to a business

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negotiation in a split second. And honestly,

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this is Saul's real superpower. He reads the

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room better than anyone. He looks at them and

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realizes, OK, these guys are definitely dangerous.

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They have a gun, but they are complete amateurs.

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And amateurs with money always need a lawyer.

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So he stands up, brushes off the dirt, and says,

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OK. Put a dollar in my pocket the famous dollar

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bill scene right attorney -client privilege Yeah,

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it is basically a magic spell in his world he

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takes that dollar and casts a legal shield over

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the entire operation and Just like that with

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one dollar. He is no longer their victim He is

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their legal advisor. Which perfectly brings us

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to the actual practical solution for the badger

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problem. Because despite all this drama in the

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desert, they still have to keep Badger out of

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jail. Or at the very least they have to keep

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him from snitching on Walt to the DEA. Right.

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Which brings us to section three of our deep

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dive. The in and out scheme. I absolutely love

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this concept. Saul introduces them to a guy named

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Jimmy and about Kilkelly. It is such a cynical

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yet utterly brilliant piece of world building

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by the writers. Kilkelly is a professional fall

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guy. He literally makes a living by going to

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state or federal prison for other criminals.

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Wait, I have to ask. Is this a real thing? Do

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professional fall guys actually exist in the

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real world? Oh, absolutely. They do. Historically

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speaking, especially if you look back at the

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heyday of the American mafia in the 70s and 80s,

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having a stand -in was a very known tactic. Maybe

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it wasn't as formalized as a guy literally named

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Jimmy in and out, but the general concept of

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someone taking the rap In exchange for financial

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care for their family, that is a staple of organized

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crime. That's just a pure transaction. You are

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literally buying their freedom. Exactly. And

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Saul's execution of this plan is brilliant. He

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doesn't just hire a guy. He creates a whole narrative.

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He knows that the DEA really wants Heisenberg.

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But the DEA doesn't actually know what Heisenberg

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looks like yet. Right. He's just a ghost. So

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Saul decides to just give them Heisenberg. He

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dresses Kilkelly up, puts him on that specific

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public bench, and fully orchestrates the bust.

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It is entirely theatrical. Saul is essentially

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directing a stage play for the police department.

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And Kilkelly is totally happy to do it because

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the pay is fantastic. And apparently, according

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to Saul, he actually likes the prison environment

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better than living in the outside world. But

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there is a snag in the plan, a very bald, very

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angry snag. Thanks, Schrader. Hank is sitting

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in the surveillance van watching this entire

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bust go down. The rest of the DEA guys are high

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-fiving. They think they finally got their big

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mastermind. But if you look at Dean Norris' face

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in that scene... He is absolutely not buying

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it. But why? I mean, the evidence is all there.

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The guy is bald. He is sitting on the right bench.

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He literally has the blue meth in his pocket.

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Because it is too easy. And Hank's true superpower

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as a character is his gut instinct. Throughout

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the entire series, Hank is so often portrayed

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as this loud, boisterous, borderline offensive

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jock character. But beneath all of that, he is

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actually an incredible detective. He really is.

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He senses the performative nature of this drug

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bust. He can't prove it legally, but his gut

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knows this Kill Kelly guy fits the criminal profile

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a little too perfectly. It is such a nice reminder

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early in the show that Hank is actually a deeply

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competent adversary for Walt. Saul might be capable

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of outsmarting the legal system, but he isn't

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necessarily outsmarting Hank's intuition. Precisely.

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But legally speaking, the ruse holds up. So Badger

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gets his sweet plea deal. He spills the beans

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on this fake Heisenberg. Kilkelly goes off to

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jail. And Walt and Jesse are safe. The crisis

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is averted. But Saul is not quite done yet. No,

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he is not. And this right here is the moment

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that completely changes the trajectory of the

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series. It goes from being a small story about

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a desperate guy cooking meth to a massive story

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about building a drug empire. Saul actually shows

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up at Waltz High School. Which is a massive violation

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of boundaries, by the way. Showing up uninvited

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at a client's daytime place of work. At a high

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school? That is an incredibly aggressive move.

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And Walt is furious. He's standing in his classroom,

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the lighting is drab, everything is gray, and

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suddenly here comes Saul Goodman scrolling in

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wearing this impossibly loud suit looking like

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a walking neon sign. But Saul has a pitch ready.

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He looks right at Walt and tells him, you are

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too easy to find. He managed to find Walt in

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just a couple of hours using a cheap private

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investigator. And he points out the obvious logic.

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If he could find Walt that easily, the cops can

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definitely find Walt. And worse, the cartel can

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find Walt. He's essentially telling Walt, you

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are totally naked out here in the wild. You need

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some armor. Exactly. So he offers to be Walt's

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full -time legal counsel. But it's much more

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than that. He offers to be a conciliar. He offers

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to be a full -on advisor in, quote, covering

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his tracks. This is a huge shift because before

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this exact conversation, Walt is just a guy making

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really pure drugs in a camper van. After this

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conversation, he suddenly has access to a criminal

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infrastructure. Saul brings the money laundering

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techniques. He brings the connections to pest

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control companies for a legitimate cover. He

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brings the guys who know guys. Saul is the ultimate

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enabler that allows the Heisenberg persona to

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grow from a local nuisance to an international

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kingpin. It is so fascinating to me that Saul

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is the one actively courting Walt here. Usually,

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in these types of stories, the criminal has to

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seek out the shady lawyer and beg for help. But

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here the lawyer is aggressively chasing down

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the criminal. Because Saul sees the massive financial

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potential. He sees the absolute purity and quality

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of Walt's product. He literally tells Walt, the

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world is your oyster. It builds down to sheer

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greed. Saul Goodman is at his absolute core,

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an opportunist. He looks at Walter White and

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he doesn't see a man dying of cancer. He sees

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a winning lottery ticket that just needs a little

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help getting cashed. So while all of this incredibly

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high stakes criminal maneuvering is happening

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in the foreground, there is a very grounded.

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human element playing out in the background of

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this episode. The subplots here are actually

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quite heavy. They are very heavy and they provide

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the absolute necessary emotional counterweight

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to all the fast -talking comedy of Saul Goodman.

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This brings us to section four of our deep dive,

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the human element. We really have to talk about

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Hank again here. We mentioned his sharp suspicion

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during the bust, but emotionally speaking, he

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is in a very, very dark place in this episode.

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He is deeply traumatized. He is suffering from

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the severe psychological fallout of the shootout

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in previous episodes. Right. You know, the horrific

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incident down in Juarez, the exploding tortoise

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on the cartel informant. He has completely holed

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himself up in his bedroom. He's brewing and bottling

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his own Schrader bro beer in the garage But mostly

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he is just hiding from the world He is having

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severe crippling panic attacks and Walt who ironically

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is the indirect root cause of so much of this

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cartel chaos Wall actually steps in here to act

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as the supportive brother -in -law. He sits down

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and gives Hank a pep talk It is a incredibly

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complex scene to watch right Walt sits on the

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edge of the bed with Hank and starts talking

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about his own fear or more accurately, his total

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lack of it. Yeah, he says he's had quote unquote

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no fear ever since his terminal lung cancer diagnosis.

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Since I got the news, I sleep like a baby. It

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is a chilling line delivery by Bryan Cranston,

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because on one hand, you can see he's genuinely

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trying to comfort Hank. He is trying to say,

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look, the fear of the unknown is the worst part.

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You just have to kick it away. But on the other

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hand, it reveals Walt's rapidly growing nihilism.

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He is telling Hank that facing his own death

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didn't make him value life more. It actually

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made him value consequences a lot less. But the

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wild thing is, it actually helps Hank, doesn't

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it? It does help him. It gives him just enough

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mental fortitude to finally leave the house and

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go back to work. Now the panic attacks aren't

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magically and fully cured. It's really just a

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temporary band -aid. But it highlights that incredibly

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strange dichotomy in Walter White. He can be

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a ruthless, calculating drug lord in one scene,

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and a genuinely supportive family member in the

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next, often using the exact same twisted philosophical

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logic for both situations. Meanwhile, Jesse is

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dealing with his own emotional arc in this episode.

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He's getting much closer to his landlord, Jane.

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Jane Margolis, played so wonderfully by Kristen

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Ritter. They actually sleep together for the

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first time in this episode. It's a very sweet,

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tender moment, actually. It is. They start bonding

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over art, over drawing superheroes. It feels

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very innocent compared to the rest of the show.

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Yeah. But there is a key character detail revealed

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here that is going to become unspeakably tragic

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later on. Jesse learns that Jane is in recovery

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for addiction. She tells me she's been 18 months

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sober. Right. And here is Jesse Pinkman, who

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is actively manufacturing and dealing crystal

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meth, using recreational drugs constantly, living

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this incredibly dangerous, chaotic lifestyle.

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And he is falling deeply in love with a girl

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whose very survival depends entirely on stability

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and strict sobriety. It is an absolute ticking

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time bomb of a relationship. It is the dictionary

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definition of a doomed romance. As a viewer,

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you desperately want to root for them because

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their chemistry is so great and they both seem

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so lonely. But, you know, logically, this dynamic

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absolutely cannot end well for either of them.

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And finally, we have Skyler's subplot. Right.

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Skyler is going back to the workforce. She has

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taken that job with her old boss, Ted Benickety.

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And there is this very small very painful visual

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detail that Walt notices on a Saturday morning.

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He's dressing up for work. She's spending extra

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time putting on makeup. She's dressing significantly

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nicer than she usually does just to go into an

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office on a weekend. And Walt notices it immediately.

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He actually comments on it. He does notice. And

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the dead silence that hangs in the room after

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he notices speaks absolute volumes. The underlying

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implication is so clear. There's a massive growing

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distance between them. Skyler is actively building

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a completely separate life outside of the home,

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completely outside of Walt's control. And while

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Walt is out secretly building his massive criminal

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empire with Saul Goodman, his actual home life

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is just quietly inevitably drifting away from

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him. It's such a stark contrast. Walt is rapidly

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gaining all this power and agency in the dangerous

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criminal underworld. But he is completely losing

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his power and connection within his own marriage.

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That really is the central driving tragedy of

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the entire show, isn't it? The higher that Heisenberg

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rises, the more that Walter White simply fades

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away. So we have this incredibly against crime

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plot, we have these deeply emotional character

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beats with Hank and Skyler and Jane, and we have

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the introduction of an absolute franchise icon

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all packed into 47 minutes. It is a lot for one

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single hour of television to handle. Let's look

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at how the world actually received it when it

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aired. Moving into section five. reception, and

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legacy. The reception was huge. Donna Bowman

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from the A .V. Club, who really wrote the definitive

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must -read weekly recaps of this show back in

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the day, she gave this episode a straight A grade.

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An A grade. That is extremely high praise for

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what is essentially a mid -season world -building

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episode. It really is. She specifically praised

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the rapidly evolving role of Jesse and Walt within

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the Albuquerque drug world. She recognized immediately

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that this wasn't just a funny, quirky episode.

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It was a massive, structural leap forward for

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the narrative. It fundamentally changed the rules

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of engagement for the characters. And looking

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back at it years later, the historical rankings

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really hold up. In 2019, The Ringer ranked it

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the 12th best episode out of all 62 episodes

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of the series. That is incredibly high placement

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when you consider that you're putting it up against

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absolute powerhouse episodes like Ozymandias

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or Face Off or Crawl Space. Strength number 12

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is Elite Status. It beats out some of the most

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explosive, action -backed season finales. Vulture

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also had it ranked at 25th overall, which is

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still very, very respectable. Absolutely. And

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we really cannot talk about the overall vibe

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and legacy of this episode without mentioning

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the music. The music choices in Breaking Bad

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are always so intentional and atmospheric. Always.

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Every track has a purpose. We had a Halle Hay

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by Fari's movement playing faintly in the background

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of the club scene, which perfectly grounds the

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show in that specific 2009 cultural era. We had

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thin m - and Skank by the Lions. And of course,

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Bandarilla by Colexico. Oh, that Colexico track

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is the absolute MVP of the episode. It plays

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during that tense desert kidnapping sequence.

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It gives the whole scene that distinctive southwestern,

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dusty noir feeling. It has that unique mariachi

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meets surf rock vibe that just screams border

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town trouble. It creates a vivid sense of place

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that is honestly just as important as the dialogue

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itself. So as we start to wrap up this deep dive,

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let's try to synthesize all of this information.

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What is the final verdict here? Why does this

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specific hour of television matter so much in

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the grand scheme of things? It matters deeply

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because it is the ultimate bridge. Before Better

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Call saw the episode, not the spinoff, Breaking

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Bad was fundamentally a small story about a desperate

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dying man and his former high school student

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secretly cooking meth in a beat -up RV. It was

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small, it was intimate, it was geographically

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contained. And after this episode... After this,

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it becomes a sprawling saga. Sol Goodman is the

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conduit that brings the entire underworld to

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their doorstep. He brings the cartel connections,

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the sophisticated money laundering, the international

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shipping routes, the professional hitmen. But

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even more than that, structural stuff, this episode

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miraculously introduced a character who was originally

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designed just to be comic relief. Literally a

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guy in a loud suit making sleazy jokes and made

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him complex and compelling enough to eventually

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carry his own profound Shakespearean tragedy

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in a prequel series. It is the ultimate Lalo

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and Ignacio seed. Exactly. That tiny little narrative

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seed, which was just blindly planted in the desert

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sand in 2009, grew into a massive interconnected

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forest. It proves that even in the seemingly

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throwaway panicked moments, this show was diligently

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building a massive mythology. It is a show that

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heavily rewards the viewer for paying close attention.

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Which perfectly brings us to our final provocative

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thought for the day. For all of you listening

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right now. Right. Think back to that terrifying

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moment in the desert one more time. Saul is on

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his knees, staring into what he thinks is his

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own grave. He begs for his life. And what does

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he scream? He screams, I am a friend of the cartel.

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Amigo Del Cartel. He genuinely thinks that title

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is his ultimate shield. He thinks dropping that

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name makes him untouchable to these random thugs.

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Right. He thinks it is his ultimate safety net.

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But if you look at the long term trajectory of

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Walt, of Jesse, and eventually of Saul himself

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across both series, is being a quote unquote

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friend of the cartel actually safety? Or is it,

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in reality, the most dangerous exposed position

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of all? Because once you establish yourself as

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a friend, you are officially in the game. And

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once you are in the game, there is no getting

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out. You are really just biding your time, waiting

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for your own turn to be taken out to the desert.

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That is a deeply terrifying, completely sobering

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thought to leave on. But that is the brutal reality

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of the Breaking Bad universe. Thank you so much

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for joining us today on this deep dive into the

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explosive arrival of the one and only Saul Goodman.

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We will catch you on the next deep dive.
